November 29th, 2017 at 12:05 PM ^
Convicts were always talking about guys smelling like flat out open ass. I really hope you would'nt be enjoying any of that whether you are an expert or not.
November 29th, 2017 at 2:54 PM ^
Smells like an opened can of sardines sitting in the top of a dumpster on a hot July evening...in Florida.
Michigan would run right through them, like crap through a goose.
November 29th, 2017 at 8:39 AM ^
I'm fairly positive that Michigan would beat the ass out of Arizona. Tate against the speed of our defense is not a good matchup for AZ. The AZ defense against any offense is also a bad matchup for AZ.
November 28th, 2017 at 11:08 PM ^
One is a New Year's game and one is on Dec 28. Take the NY game. Always better and more exposure no matter what state it's in.
November 28th, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^
A win is more important than exposure or a better game.
November 28th, 2017 at 11:40 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:59 PM ^
viewed as a JV or freshman game of the day could arguably be better. Plus, there's tons of talent in Southern California, they know and respect Harbaugh better in California and it is a change of pace.
November 29th, 2017 at 12:34 AM ^
It was known as The Hall of Fame Bowl back when we first played Alabama in 1987. And playing on New Year's has always had prestige for Michigan fans since the Big Ten would only send the champ to the Rose Bowl and everyone else stayed home until the mid-70s.
Playing a bowl game against the Pac-12 also has prestige though and I like that more than playing the Gamecocks.
November 29th, 2017 at 9:54 AM ^
Brodie--Yes, playing in the Outback Bowl on NY Day is better than the Holiday Bowl in the NFL weeknight timeslot.
1. They're both on national television so I don't know why you would use that as a differentiator.
2. The NY prestige is not recent. In fact, there are more games not on NY currently that are big games than there has been over the decades. In the 80s, 90s, and early 00s, most of the big games have been within a few days of that day.
3. Check the ratings. It isn't close. And common sense dictates that many families get together on NY Day and watch football, eat, etc. just as they do on Thanksgiving. The Holiday Bowl, played last year on Dec. 27 had 4.05 million (ranked 14th) in TV viewership whereas the Outback Bowl, played on Jan. 2 had 6.10 million (ranked 8th).
http://collegesports.blog.statesman.com/2017/01/13/bowl-tv-ratings-view…
4. Your history is off. The Outback Bowl is only different now because of the sponsor. The game itself has a much longer history than that.
5. For recruiting purposes, we are more likely to pull recruits out of Florida than we are out of San Diego. Playing in their backyard is always better than playing 3 time zones away.
6. Winning the actual game matters. In my opinion, the matchup potential of an SEC school is MUCH better from an upside standpoint than the PAC 12 schools we would draw.
November 29th, 2017 at 12:12 PM ^
1. As far as I can tell, there really is nothing concrete that makes NYD "special" except for the borrowed glint of being the same day that all the really old bowls were played on. The idea that the TaxSlayer Bowl (admittedly a historical bowl, but one that currently pits 7-5 teams against each other) is more "special" than a game against a ranked opponent ocurring two days prior is farcical... a few years ago, 6-6 Purdue played 7-5 Oklahoma State in a half empty Cotton Bowl on NYD. That year's Alamo Bowl on December 29 featured #13 Oregon State against a ranked 8-win Texas team. Which was more prestigious?
2. The NYD prestige existed because, in the 80's, there were 16 bowl games and basically the only ones that would feature exciting matchups between ranked teams were the old ones with the big conference autobids (and the upstart Fiesta Bowl with independents), which all played on New Year's Day. This was also a time period where only ~18 of the top 25 teams even played in bowls, too, so the number of interesting matchups was lower and the prestige of being in one was much higher. Today, because everyone makes a bowl the number of quality matchups is much higher and there is less clustering.
3. Last year's Holliday Bowl was shown on ESPN at 4 pm PST on a Tuesday. This year's will be played at 6 pm PST on a Thursday and will be shown on Fox, ie over the air. You really can't compare this year's to last year's for those reasons.
4. Okay, so it was founded in 1986 and is named after a kitschy Australian themed restaurant chain. Mea culpa. I don't see why that really makes it better than one founded in 1978 which has actually featured top 10 teams like 15 times in it's history.
5. We recruit nationally and I am sure some exposure in California would be nice, considering we never play there but are in Florida all the damn time.
6. Agreed here.
November 28th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
November 29th, 2017 at 4:14 PM ^
just because breezy is from Tampa? :s
November 28th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
Sure, it's nice to get revenge, but I was hoping for Louisville. I'm not hyped about a rematch of a game from a few years ago.
November 28th, 2017 at 11:02 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:41 PM ^
a game that more people will watch. Recruits like and respect Lamar Jackson, it'd be a bigger matchup overall, especially bc Louisville's OL is rank ass trash, I actually feel confident Michigan would win.
November 28th, 2017 at 11:21 PM ^
This defense, as good as it was, still had trouble with running QBs. Not to mention someone who can throw deep. Lamar Jackson is both of those things.
I willl take South Carolina, even though I have literally no idea who their QB is, as I am sure he is not Lamar Jackson.
<Just looked him up: Jake Bentley. He ran for less than 100 yards, total, this year. That gets zero Lamar's out of five>
November 28th, 2017 at 10:44 PM ^
"Tonight the role of Jadeveon Clowney will be played in tandem by Maurice Hurst and Rashan Gary"
November 28th, 2017 at 10:45 PM ^
I was at that last Outback Bowl! Probably won't go again because staying at my grandmothers condo on New Years Eve sucked MAJOR ass, but the game was fun!
November 29th, 2017 at 12:43 AM ^
Is it because your grandma was up noisily celebrating the new year while you went to bed early per your usual routine?
November 29th, 2017 at 9:37 AM ^
kept him awake.
November 28th, 2017 at 10:45 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:47 PM ^
Done and done. And I mean done.
(Apologies to Principal Skinner. Does one really need to apologize to an animated TV character, though?)
November 28th, 2017 at 10:45 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 10:46 PM ^
Well, this sucks. I'd rather see a matchup with Stanford. Haven't we been to Florida more often than UF plays there?
November 28th, 2017 at 10:47 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 10:48 PM ^
I would still like to finish the season playing ND in a bowl game and start next year with them too. lol
November 28th, 2017 at 10:55 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:06 PM ^
Because its highly unlikely that we'd be playing them, right? Half joking.
EDIT: lol
November 28th, 2017 at 11:06 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:03 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 11:34 PM ^
I asked my teenager and he said "laugh out loud".
November 28th, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^
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November 29th, 2017 at 6:32 AM ^
November 29th, 2017 at 7:47 AM ^
Yeah, so... This post take 'grammar police' to a whole new level. The Michigan Difference!
November 28th, 2017 at 10:49 PM ^
November 28th, 2017 at 10:51 PM ^
November 29th, 2017 at 12:48 AM ^
Stop drinking and go to bed god
November 28th, 2017 at 11:15 PM ^
would be huge, just like the win over florida in 2015
November 28th, 2017 at 11:28 PM ^
A win is more important than who or where we are playing.
November 29th, 2017 at 12:05 AM ^
This is a LOSE DOG attitude. We're Michigan - we're supposed to be the leaders and best and ready to play anyone. Wanting to play South Carolina because we have a better chance of beating a mediocre team than a decent one in the Holiday Bowl is the absolute apex of lose doggery. I want a good, exciting matchup that provides a chance to have a memorable victory. If we just want the easiest W available, why don't we decline all invites until the Little Caesar's Bowl calls?
November 29th, 2017 at 6:45 AM ^
November 29th, 2017 at 7:54 AM ^
I dunno, man... We just took two top 10 teams to, essentially, the wire. Faded late, yes, but considering the hole at WR, and the super massive black hole at QB, I think we did okay. Give Peters 3 quarters of work against OSU and we win that game. Give him the whole game against UW, and we're in to the bitter end with a real chance to win. I'm okay with taking on Washington or Stanford in a bowl game out west. Both WR's and QB's have time to heal up, and another 3-4 weeks of work with the OL, and this team is gonna roll whatever is in its path. Talk about being underrated going into a bowl game? Nobody will be more underrated than this 8-4 Michigan team.
BTW, FWIW, I think UW gave us a tougher game than OSU did, and that UW is going to win the B1G CG.
November 29th, 2017 at 3:17 PM ^
With Peters healthy and this defense, there are very few teams, if any, that we can't plausibly hang with. I'd take Washington all day, every day.
As 1VaBlue just explained, we just did take on two top 10 teams and outplayed one when Peters was in the game at their place, and outplayed the other but lost because our QB couldn't hit wide open receivers.
December 1st, 2017 at 11:39 AM ^
We still lost those games. We need a win more than "outplaying" a better team and still taking home a loss.
November 29th, 2017 at 1:52 PM ^
Yeah, this year especially we need a win for a young team's confidence going into the offseason. And really the biggest benefit, again for a very young team, is all the extra practices.
November 28th, 2017 at 10:52 PM ^