What exactly is Marcus Ray’s problem?

Submitted by TK on October 26th, 2018 at 2:56 PM

I won’t link but apparently he is again ripping on Michigan on Rico Beards show. Is there a story to why he turned on UM? Does he share a bond with Rico because they are both overweight radio hacks now?

bringthewood

October 26th, 2018 at 6:28 PM ^

Lots of players are dicks. Rick Leach was an asshole to the average student. Seems like a good guy now. Mel Owens was a dick in college. It comes with being fawned on for your entire life. Curtis Greer was a good football player but an asshole.

I'm sure some grew up and turned into better people

I remember how nice some guys were and how that set them apart - Russell Davis, Dwight Hicks for example. 

Mark DeSantis was in the premed Interflex program and was a good dude.

evenyoubrutus

October 26th, 2018 at 7:00 PM ^

That doesn't surprise me about Leach. I usually turn him off whenever he comes on the radio. Here's the thing, he seems like a really nice guy, who's very positive and uplifting. I think I remember him being very patient with Rich Rod and that he really just wanted the team to succeed. But whenever he's interviewed he won't stop talking about himself. Maybe that's okay, like I said he seems like a super nice guy and he had a great career at Michigan, but I'm not surprised he was a hothead in college.

runandshoot

October 26th, 2018 at 7:14 PM ^

I remember one of my friend's roommates was dating a college OL - he was a giant asshat.  Just generally a giant douche to everyone in the house they lived in, and to all of us when we were hanging out with our friend.

I did hear, however, from all my friends that met Tom Brady, that he was a complete gentleman and really nice to everyone, without exception.  Made it easy to root for him later when he was named the starter.

treetown

October 26th, 2018 at 9:27 PM ^

Side story - they used to send players from a class to visit local elementary schools. Brady went to a 4th grade class at Eberwhite school here in Ann Arbor. The teacher is now retired and a neighbor. She says only nice things (not a college football fan) - showed up on time, very helpful, nice, kept with the teaching plan and this was at a time that few of the kids really knew who he was - they just knew he was some UM student who was on the football team doing some type of class work.

Honestly I was among the many who thought he was ok to good but was really taken with what Drew Henson might do. Live and learn. 

chad

October 26th, 2018 at 3:04 PM ^

He embarrassingly begged for a coaching job on WTKA when Harbaugh got hired and didn't get the job. Salty ever since, even claiming Butch Jones would've been a better hire. 

ldevon1

October 26th, 2018 at 3:17 PM ^

I believe this is it. I heard he was lobbying thru a third party for a staff job and Harbaugh didn't hire him. Something was said before Harbaugh got hired that poisoned the water. I don't know if it was the Butch Jones comment, but he never got a sniff. I could be wrong but I also heard he is welcome around the facilities. If anyone can confirm this I am very curious. 

gpsimms not to…

October 26th, 2018 at 3:12 PM ^

Yeah, it's sad. One thing that doesn't sit well with me especially is that, when people get mad at him for his stupid hot takes, they say that he was not a great player and all his success is due to Woodson.

I mean, can't we criticize the words coming out of Marcus' mouth without taking shots at his excellent Michigan career? Marcus was a beast on the field, and a key part of one of the greatest Michigan teams of all time.

pdgoblue25

October 26th, 2018 at 3:06 PM ^

He's trying to follow the Skip Bayless/cowherd playbook.  Say stupid shit that is so stupid even the people who know you're full of it can't resist reading the article.  Look, here we are talking about him. 

HelloHeisman91

October 26th, 2018 at 3:07 PM ^

He’s a black hole of attention seeking.  He’s a troll that can’t and doesn’t offer enough to be interesting by giving logical, educated and measured opinions so he’s decided to spew a bunch of nonsense because it ends up on message boards and rival fan bases love it.  He’s pissing on M and his legacy for attention and what he thinks is expanding his profile.  Have fun with that, Marcus.  Oh, and we don’t give a shit if you send your kids to OSU.  Stop dropping that idea like it’s a threat or something. 

JohnnyV123

October 26th, 2018 at 3:08 PM ^

I liken it to the 1972 Miami Dolphins, who feel the need to diminish other NFL teams who achieve greatness in order to make their own team seem greater.

Marcus Ray only cares about his own legacy and by diminishing the great Michigan teams that come along (especially the defenses), it makes him seem more important.

I love me some 1997 Michigan defense, but Ray is a prick.

B1G Winning

October 26th, 2018 at 3:09 PM ^

Marcus Ray must be sad that the only attention he gets from the Michigan faithful is immediately after bashing the Wolverines on a rival team’s media platform, even though he was part of the university’s last national championship team.

It has to be tough to see your college teammates go on to have illustrious NFL careers and be praised by UofM fans, while all you do is just gain a ton of weight and sweat profusely during your TV broadcast of a Michigan spring game.

Sad, really.

 

Reference: https://youtu.be/casSM5WaxZo  -  1:15 into the broadcast

Ron Utah

October 26th, 2018 at 3:13 PM ^

Marcus is bitter than no one has realized how great of a coach and analyst he is and that he hasn't been hired at Michigan yet to fix their defense.

What's amazing about that sentence is that there is no sarcasm, judgment, or criticism there.  It's just the truth.  Last year on Sam's show Marcus repeatedly bashed Don Brown for not having "sound" defenses, stating that Brown did not properly deploy the correct number of players to play the run or the pass.  He said, "People just can't read defenses like I can" and strongly implied that he knew more about defense and could coach Michigan more effectively than Don Brown.  

His pathetic brand of jealousy has turned to rage as Michigan continues to ignore him, and no one legitimizes his ridiculous takes about Michigan's poor defensive coaching except for the Spartan beat writers--collectively the most biased and deplorable members of the media.  And that's saying something.

Marcus has lost his way due to his stubborn pride, and I'm afraid that he can't see just how awful he's become in his quest to be recognized as a great football mind.  He's also proven that he would be a terrible coach by bashing one of the top minds in defense and demonstrating that when he doesn't get his way he becomes a whiny, divisive bitch instead of providing constructive criticism.

He's burned all his useful bridges at this point and now is talking to the only people who will listen, which feeds his ego.  He has become little brother, and is no more deserving of respect than his Sparty brethren in the media.

Taco Panda

October 26th, 2018 at 3:19 PM ^

He enjoys playing the contrarian and he gets lots of attention doing so (e.g., this post). He said Purdue was best team in the B1G after Saturday's games...

JPC

October 26th, 2018 at 3:21 PM ^

Ripping Michigan last year is being an asshole. Ripping Michigan this year is being a complete moron and an asshole. 

Blau

October 26th, 2018 at 3:21 PM ^

He's really just taking his cheap shots while he can. If you think about it, what's the drawback from his perspective? He can talk shit to remain in some sort of weird relevancy and if UM comes up short on the field, he'll just point to the '97 team as the pinnacle of UM football.

It also leads me to believe that the direction of this program heading in the right way exponentially and people are really taking notice.

As with most former players with an axe to grind, it's best to let them fade away on their own. 

814 East U

October 26th, 2018 at 3:31 PM ^

Michigan could win the national title and upset one of the best teams in Alabama and Marcus would be on every OSU and MSU radio/TV show saying how Michigan played a weak schedule, still lost to ND and didn't have the same "swagger" as the 1997 team.

ouck fhio

October 26th, 2018 at 3:33 PM ^

He is getting worse every well, it seems.  But what made me post is this sharty podcast.  Thr host says former Michigan wolverine and NFL player.  So I look the NFL stats from fatty and I see 8 games, 0 started, 1 tackle.  

Am I missing something? Why would you even mention NFL?

 

Dude never would've seen the NFL had it not been for the best cornerback to play.  

Not even getting into any of the ridiculous bs or how stupid and bitter he sounds.  

Is he eating during this weeks shartcast? Sure sounds like it.

jmblue

October 26th, 2018 at 3:33 PM ^

Two requests of the fanbase:

1.  Do not degrade what Ray accomplished as a player because of what he's saying now.  He was a great player and now is a bad analyst.  The two are not contradictory.  That he's saying dumb things now does not mean that he secretly sucked as a player.  

2.  Don't go on an all-out assault on "Carr players" as though they all think like Ray.  The ones I've had the chance to meet are all supportive of the program.  A couple of blowhards are making the huge group (13 years of players) look bad in peoples' eyes.

JMo

October 26th, 2018 at 3:41 PM ^

Here's a metaphor I liken it to:

Remember when the Freep was just the Freep? Some of you go back that far, others maybe don't. There was a time when the Detroit Free Press covered Michigan athletics just like the Ann Arbor News, just like the Detroit News and nobody cared to read it. I think at the time people bought the Freep out of habit/tradition or because they liked reading Mitch.

There came a time about 10/12/15 years ago when the Freep did a few editorial hot takes, and some "investigative" stories negatively about Michigan... and boom readership went through the roof. Clicks as far as the eye could see. Anti-Michigan fans reveled in the coverage. Michigan fans grew to love to hate Drew Sharp. But there was a time when Drew Sharp was just working a beat, wasn't too controversial, nobody gave a shit about him. News is news, but it's also business and sports news is entertainment. And this was big for them, they were relevant. It's easy for an editorial board to back this kind of play when it means they have a share of the market in a dying industry.

On an individual level, it's addicting for the personalities. Valenti, Sharp, Parker, Whitlock, Travis, etc. There was a time when nobody cared about what they say. Jason Whitlock was just some morbidly obese writer in St Louis. Clay Travis was a boring afternoon drivetime radio host in Nashville doing schtick. But then, they said something "takey" and it got heat. Then they said something else, they wrote another contrarian view and the heat came again. They liked it. And in the biz any heat is good heat.

Marcus Ray realized he could say inflammatory things about Michigan and people cared. People paid attention. Theyd respond. They're angry. They fire off mean tweets. He goes on a show and people ask him about the controversial thing he said before. Marcus Ray went from being a guy who's segment you'd skip on WTKA, to being someone you had an opinion about. Honestly, I came along late to this dance. I didn't know people cared about Marcus Ray until I kept seeing his name mentioned, being from the "older-time" and not woke to Marcus, I just wondered why people were talking about Marcus Ray. Then I saw. It's not surprising after that.

So, remember responders.... you are the oxygen that causes the Marcus Rays of the world to burn bright. If you truly don't care, then don't respond, don't click, don't call in, don't tweet. Suffocate him of the attention he desperately craves.

charblue.

October 26th, 2018 at 5:11 PM ^

There is nothing wrong with Marcus Ray. If you don't like his takes, don't listen to them. If you think he's irrelevant, then why worry about what he says.

Marcus is bright, he knows the game and is a solid football analyst. If you don't like his opinions, for whatever reason, fine. I don't like the opinions of a lot of guys, and so I don't listen to them.

If the contention is that Marcus is just being a contrarian to be different, OK that is part of his personality. He wants to stick out. If you don't like it, don't listen. He's got a point of view just like everyone else. And he's on BTN and does ESPN color commentary on MAC games. So, they think he knows the game.

 

uofmdds96

October 26th, 2018 at 3:44 PM ^

He wants to make sure no other team is ever spoken in as high regard as the ‘97 team or another Woodson.  Those are the two things that apparently define his life. Without those two things he feels like a failure?

EGD

October 26th, 2018 at 3:49 PM ^

I have no idea who Rico Beards is.

Seems like each successive place Marcus pops up to give his hot takes is even more obscure than the last.  How long until Marcus is in a Winnipeg basement telling some teenage vlogger how OSU is all about getting stops?