aiglick

February 17th, 2020 at 12:36 AM ^

I want what’s best for him so long as it doesn’t impact us. I’ll wish him well wherever he goes and if he ends up playing us then I’ll root for our team.

Qmatic

February 17th, 2020 at 12:44 AM ^

I think if we had Beilein this season, it would be going about the same; maybe a tad better in the record department as I think our offense would have been better tailored to mask X and Teske’s deficiencies.

JB was facing a big problem come 2020-21 however. I don’t see him landing Todd, Hunter, or Christopher. His system players like Nunez and Castleton are not panning out. 

We should be very thankful things turned out the way they did; because there was at least a 50% chance that they were not trending that way

michymich

February 17th, 2020 at 1:18 AM ^

Beilein would also have the one recruit who left although I think Howard has developed Davis to some extent.

 

I am happy with coach Howard because I like that UM is going to recruit higher level talent and the real important variable here is that coach Howard may not be as good with x's and o's but more importantly he is 25 years or so younger. It wasn't like Beilein left when he was 50 with 15 years left of coaching.

 

Beilein leaving this year would be like Belichick leaving this year for NE. His best years were already given to the organization.

snarling wolverine

February 17th, 2020 at 1:14 AM ^

I think our offense would have been better tailored to mask X and Teske’s deficiencies.

Counterpoint: our offense really wasn't that great the last two years. 

I think Juwan's offensive system has worked really well.  Other than turnovers (which are slightly up, but only slightly) I see no real dropoff.  Our main issue is that we just are streaky from the perimeter, especially in games when Livers isn't playing.

mwolverine1

February 17th, 2020 at 9:39 AM ^

I think we would've been fine next year.

  1. DeJulius
  2. Brooks
  3. Wagner
  4. Livers
  5. Castleton

And then Jalen Wilson, Bajema, Johns, Davis off the bench. And if you believe certain rumors, we would've had Jabri Abdur-Rahim and Walker Kessler in this recruiting class to go with Zeb Jackson.

I think Beilein proved his ability to produce consistently good teams (other than the lull when LeVert was injured). Obviously with the potential recruiting class we have coming in under Howard, the potential of next year's team is through the roof, but let's not discount where Beilein had this program.

LDNfan

February 17th, 2020 at 3:19 AM ^

Beilein is toast...you don't want this in the media unless it is already a done deal. 

The players will only become more difficult to deal with once they get wind of the fact that you are out the door anyway. 

1201 S. Main St.

February 17th, 2020 at 1:36 PM ^

It was just such an odd job to take at that point in his life.  A career college coach given the keys to rebuilding an NBA franchise, and it wasn't like Beilein was the type of college coach who was landing future NBA all stars to where he has established relationships with some of the NBA players like Coach K, Cal, or even Izzo have.  I'm really not surprised it didn't or hasn't worked out, although I'm with you in hoping he was going to do well.

ijohnb

February 17th, 2020 at 6:12 AM ^

100% serious.  We should see if he would come on board as an assistant.  Offer like an “associate AD” position along with it.

UMgradMSUdad

February 17th, 2020 at 6:45 AM ^

I live in OKC, and have watched Billy Donovan struggle to coach the team until this year.  What has changed is they've traded Westbrook who didn't seem to care what the coach was drawing up or wanted to do as a team. Now, OKC is playing better as a team and Westbrook seems to be a better team player as well. It doesn't sound like Beilein is going to get a similar chance to coach without a mal content prima donna on the team.

1201 S. Main St.

February 17th, 2020 at 1:39 PM ^

I've heard that Kevin Love is possibly the worst locker room guy Beilein could have had given Beilein having zero NBA experience, and the fact the Cavs are in a rebuild.  I can absolutely see Thompson and Love just ignoring and not really having much respect for Beilein.  If Beilein had a roster of all younger guys and wasn't having to deal with the day to day of some of the vets, he would have had a better chance.  Of course, if he had better vets who were more open to being role models to the younger players, that would have helped too.

bronxblue

February 17th, 2020 at 7:09 AM ^

He could come back to college but he left UM because the recruiting and player attrition drove him crazy.  That's not going away, so I'll be interested to see if he wants to try that again at some other program.  

TIMMMAAY

February 17th, 2020 at 9:49 AM ^

Beilein as a color guy? Shirley, you can't be serious. 

First off, there is no "color" in JB. None, he's a monotone former HS science teacher. Second; he has a stutter. How do you see those as qualities fitting the role of TV "color guy"? That's a serious question. Even as an analyst, his stutter would be real tough to work around. 

Booted Blue in PA

February 17th, 2020 at 8:49 AM ^

Coach B got paid.... 

I wouldn't be surprised if he just retired, or took a job coaching DII or DIII ball where he isn't competing with cheaters can have an assistant coach recruit and can just coach ball and have fun.

LV Sports Bettor

February 17th, 2020 at 9:12 AM ^

He'll have multiple offers and likely choose the best one.

Wouldn't be surprised at all if he isn't at a top 6 conference next year.

He's a youthful 67 years old and must still love the game. Guy signed up for 5 years at Cleveland he must still feel very passionate about the game

double blue

February 17th, 2020 at 9:29 AM ^

He should coach a woman’s team.  They aren’t heading off to the pros as one and dones.  A system style works extremely well in that game. 

SeattleWolverine

February 17th, 2020 at 10:42 AM ^

Not sure why anyone would be particularly concerned about him going to Indiana. Beilein never attracted the top recruits it would take for a quick rebuild. Obviously we were in even worse shape in 2007 than they are now but Green and Davis are seniors while Smith, Durham and Brunk are juniors. Jackson-Davis is the only young guy playing well but he's a post ill suited to Beilien's system. This is not a quick turnaround situation. Similarly, we didn't break .500 in the B1G until his 5th year here. There is no way Indiana has the patience for the slow build that Beilein would provide, especially given his age and concern that he wouldn't be around all that long before retiring.

That program also still has expectations that are out of whack with reality as they're still deluding itself that a history as a legitimate top 5 to 10 program still matters. No one under the age of 30 remembers Indiana basketball being really good. Crean had a couple of good teams but they flamed out in the tourney. They haven't made it past the sweet 16 since 2002 which is the year the current crop of HS seniors was born. Indiana isn't even close to the same class as Duke, KY, UNC, KS etc in the minds of recruits but their fans think otherwise. 

Also, as Michigan fans we can dismiss the thug/slug controversy because we know Beilein's character. But the reality is that that is going to follow Beilein around and he will be negatively recruited against for the rest of his career. It will make it harder for him. He's probably not getting an elite job anyway at his age, but he could be a good candidate for Northwestern or Wake Forest or something. If he's willing to commit to a long long term, I could see Northwestern actually being a good fit. 

Njia

February 17th, 2020 at 11:23 AM ^

In some ways, this would be not unlike Nick Saban leaving LSU to coach in the NFL, find out (the hard way) that it isn't a good fit for his style or personality, and return to the college game. Beilein is way older than Saban was when he went to 'Bama, but that doesn't mean it's beyond the realm of possibility that JB could be headed to a D1 college program (such as a traditional power that has fallen on hard times) with enough time to make it relevant again.

njvictor

February 17th, 2020 at 11:27 AM ^

Beilein should come back to Ann Arbor, retire, and get treated like a celebrity for the rest of his life. I see why he want to go to the NBA, but it was doomed from the start. The Cavs front office and players were not willing to buy into him and his philosophy and put Beilein into a position to fail. I think if Beilein was coaching a team like the Atlanta Hawks things would be different. He deserved better

BeatOSU52

February 17th, 2020 at 11:33 AM ^

Hope College reportedly is in talks with John Beilein to come coach starting next season .  The reports are they want to repair their image after having two prominent d3 cheaters Glen Van Weiren and Matt Neil coach their teams for a combined 3 and a half decades 

25dodgebros

February 17th, 2020 at 11:46 AM ^

Everyone except Beilen and the Cavs knew this was the only outcome possible for this move.  Michigan BB now has a better future than it did the day before JB left and JB is consoling his humiliation with piles of cash.  While I feel a little sad for JB, he got what every one knew was coming - he even signed up for it.  JB did a great job for Michigan but, in the end, it was all just business, not personal.  That is the way I feel about him.  Good employee but not gonna put up a statue or name a BB court for him.  Now JH shows definite potential for a statue some day.  

chrisu

February 17th, 2020 at 12:44 PM ^

JB was clear when he left Michigan that he did not like the way the dirty coaches impacted the game, and he did not like the one-n-done or even the two-n-done mentality of the players. I have zero inside knowledge and do not know JB, but based on his disdain for the DI game when he left, I'd lay my chips on the square that had JB going to a smaller collegiate program - DII or DIII. I think the only way he would go back to DI would be an ivy league school. I also don't see Michigan offering to bring him back to the program in any capacity out of deference to JH. I also don't see him doing anything but HC unless his son asks him to be on his staff.

Perkis-Size Me

February 17th, 2020 at 12:49 PM ^

Kind of feel for him, and I personally have no hard feelings towards him for leaving, especially considering Howard seems to have his team figuring things out and recruiting like gangbusters. The timing for his departure sure could've been better, but he wanted to try his hand at the highest level in the profession. Just to see what he could do, and I can't fault him for that. Maybe he has some semblance of regret given how things have played out, but I bet he's probably saying he would've still regretted it more had he never taken the chance. 

That being said, the writing was somewhat on the wall for this to happen. Beilein had never spent a single ounce of his career coaching professionals. They're just a different breed than coaching 18-22 year old amateur athletes. Pretty much everyone except him and the Cavs saw this outcome happening. Maybe not this quickly, but in the end, this was what was going to happen, anyway. Had LeBron still been in Cleveland when this all went down, I can't imagine either of them having remotely gotten along. 

Hope he takes his money and enjoys retirement. Would be really weird seeing him line up to coach another college team. Especially one that finds itself playing Michigan. The next time I see him on a college court, I hope, is maybe a year or two from now, where he's invited back to Crisler and honored for all the work he did. That might be a five to ten minute standing ovation. 

 

Steve in PA

February 17th, 2020 at 12:53 PM ^

I could easily see JB taking a position with the NCAA if he feels that he is done coaching but still wants to be around basketball.  He could help guide basketball through the inevitable changes that are coming in a way that would be good for players and the schools.