|12/12/2018 - 8:24pm||He must assume then that…||
He must assume then that Gary is going to absolutely slay the combine. I haven’t seen Gary in many places other than the 7-20 range.
|12/12/2018 - 8:09pm||Whole state did what it…||
Whole state did what it needed to to protect Meyer.
I’ve said this over and over and I still stand by it. If this had happened under Cooper’s watch, these documents would’ve been released within 24 hours of being written up, and Cooper would’ve been unanimously fired by the BoT and run out of town by the whole fanbase.
|12/12/2018 - 4:43pm||Whoop dee fucking doo.||
Whoop dee fucking doo. And if you think this gives us a better chance next year, you know that OSU probably has another five star or really high four star waiting right behind him to take over?
They're reloading pal.
|12/12/2018 - 4:15pm||He hasn’t played one…||
He hasn’t played one meaningful down in college, and if he has any chance of playing anywhere next year, assuming he’s not convicted, he’s almost certainly going to have to go the JC / FCS route. Maybe the MAC if he gets lucky. From there, his odds of making it to the league become even smaller than they already are.
I know what you’re trying to say, but guys like Joe Mixon, they at least had results to make teams consider them as an option. O’Maury has a whole lot of nothing next to his name right now in terms of on field results.
This is all assuming he’s not convicted. If he is, and depending on the severity of the situation, he might have to forget about playing competitive football anywhere for the rest of his life.
|12/12/2018 - 2:52pm||He’s trolling us big time.
He’s trolling us big time.
Hill is gone and he’s not coming back. Accept it, move on, and enjoy some basketball.
|12/12/2018 - 1:58pm||O’Maury will get his day in…||
O’Maury will get his day in court, but if the domestic violence allegations are true, he just fucked up the rest of his life. Both on and off the football field.
|12/12/2018 - 1:56pm||Domestic violence. That’s…||
Domestic violence. That’s pretty bad.
O’Maury will get his day in court, but if he’s convicted, finding a way back to the football field is probably the least of his concerns right now.
|12/12/2018 - 1:17pm||Or he just doesn't want to…||
Or he just doesn't want to make a big fuss about anything related to his recruitment. Which has been his MO the whole time.
|12/12/2018 - 1:16pm||Full expect him to go to OSU…||
Full expect him to go to OSU.
The BPONE is strong, and absolutely overwhelming right now. After the defensive shitshow in Columbus, Daxton Hill de-commitment and rumors about Don Brown and Temple, it's just hard to get optimistic about anything related to the football team right now.
|12/12/2018 - 12:33pm||Would’ve thought that if he…||
Would’ve thought that if he wanted to be a HC he would’ve become one by now, but he’s a Northeast guy so this move would make sense for him. And it’s a school that won’t high high pressure expectations, which is an added bonus for him since he’s definitely on the back end of his career.
Hope its not true.
|12/12/2018 - 10:53am||Why in the hell would you…||
Why in the hell would you ever schedule playing a service academy? WHY?!? They took Oklahoma to the brink this year and are clearly a very good team under Monken. That game is probably going to be close.
I don't see any better than 10-2. Going on the road to Wisconsin and to Penn State....there's probably at least one loss in there. Especially if the Penn State game is a night game. I can see us beating ND and MSU since both are at home, but I'm at a point with OSU now where I just sit there and say that until I physically witness us beating them again, with my own eyes, that game is an automatic loss for me.
I don't care that Meyer is stepping down. OSU has been living in our heads, rent-free, for the better part of 20 years.
|12/11/2018 - 8:50pm||I don't think there is a…||
I don't think there is a lack of emphasis on this game. Maybe OSU emphasizes it more, but not to the point where that's what's going to carry them to victory every year. Michigan knew what was at stake, they knew what beating them would mean, how close they'd gotten the previous two years, and Harbaugh played in it. There are few people who understand the need to beat OSU more than Harbaugh does. I imagine there is a lot more that he says behind closed doors.
Just my opinion, but we don't lose because we don't value the game as much. Look at the three close games we had under Hoke. For all of the guy's flaws, his teams always played up to OSU and had legitimate chances to win. No one can ever accuse Hoke of not emphasizing the OSU game. Then look at the 2017 game. Had a vastly inferior team, at least on offense, but an excellent gameplan and would've won if we had even average QB play.
We've lost because OSU has just had better teams almost every single year for the last 20 years. And even when the teams were fairly evenly matched like 2006 and 2016, OSU had a distinct advantage in the most important position on the field: QB. The team with the better QB almost always wins the game. Minus 2011, we haven't had superior QB play in at least 15 years.
|12/11/2018 - 8:36pm||Way ahead of you. Already…||
Way ahead of you. Already stopped.
|12/11/2018 - 8:32pm||I get what Chase was trying…||
I get what Chase was trying to say, but let's not mince words: that was a fucking ass-whipping.
|12/11/2018 - 1:54pm||What. Ever. To be honest, I…||
What. Ever. To be honest, I’d been getting pretty annoyed with Sam for the last month or so when he was telling all of us why we should want, and even need, OSU to be 10-1 coming into the game and we need them as highly ranked as possible. The guy got his wish, and we got an uber-motivated OSU team with everything to play for, intent on putting on a bloodbath for all the world to see.
The guy is fishing for a story that isn’t there. Hill is gone, and he’s not coming back. Accept it and move on.
|12/11/2018 - 11:49am||We haven't worn home…||
We haven't worn home uniforms for a bowl game in a long time. I think we did for the Gator Bowl, and before that, maybe a Rose Bowl?
I wonder if its just a program choice not to. We were the higher ranked team in each of our last three bowl games, and we wore road uni's in each of them.
|12/10/2018 - 6:14pm||He should leave. He has…||
He should leave. He has nothing left to prove in college.
|12/10/2018 - 12:53pm||On paper, we should win. But…||
On paper, we should win. But on paper, we should've won the OSU game too. And I think there are going to be a lot of guys on this year's Florida team (and a lot of seniors left over from the 2015 season) who remember the ass whippings Michigan gave them. Wouldn't at all be surprised to see Michigan lose. Michigan is notorious for looking awful in bowl games.
The question will just be which Michigan comes out of the tunnel. If its the version we've seen for the past two years in bowl games where they come out sluggish or implode on themselves, they will lose. If they play their best game, they should win. It'll probably be somewhere in the middle, like a 28-24 kind of game.
My guess is Florida on a late TD drive. My BPONE is at an all-time high with the football program, and I honestly just think Florida is just going to want this game more. Possibly a lot more. Michigan had playoff aspirations, and got sent home from Columbus with its tail tucked between its legs. They don't want to play in the Peach Bowl, and I don't blame them. Florida is in the midst of a rebuilding year, but they're clearly heading in the right direction, stomped all over their rival to end the regular season, and will have a very motivated team trying to avenge the loss to us last year. Another 10-3 season, going into an offseason loaded with more "what if" questions, wasted opportunities, stalled recruiting, and the talking heads continuing the "Harbaugh is overrated, can't win the big one" chatter.
Save us, Beilein. Save us from ourselves.
|12/09/2018 - 8:18am||Probably Florida ‘08. A team…||
Probably Florida ‘08. A team sandwiched between two national titles but had a QB that still won the Heisman that year.
|12/09/2018 - 8:15am||Whatever. Don’t blame a kid…||
Whatever. Don’t blame a kid for looking out for himself.
If you were a top defensive recruit and you saw the shitshow Michigan put on down in Columbus a few weeks ago, would you want to come here when you had a better option? Try and remove your maize and blue tinted sunglasss before you answer.
If I’m being unbiased I’d rather go somewhere where I know I’m going to win more national title games than I will rivalry games. I’d rather go somewhere that I know for a fact will put me into the first round of the NFL Draft. Harbaugh is past the point where he can sell hope to top recruits and reasonably expect them to come. He needs to sell results now. And right now, he has no results worth selling to a player like Daxton Hill.
|12/08/2018 - 10:50pm||And yet they field a GERG…||
And yet they field a GERG-like defense that can’t stop anyone. Trade-offs, pal. Did you see them giving up 40-50 points a week to bad teams? I sure did.
|12/08/2018 - 10:41pm||No one should be surprised…||
No one should be surprised. Alabama wins national championships. We can’t even win our own division. Alabama shows up on the biggest stage and delivers. When Michigan takes its turn on the big stage, it shits it’s collective pants.
Until we beat OSU, expect more of this. I don’t blame the kid at all for going to Alabama.
|12/08/2018 - 9:01pm||Yeah....blame a kid for…||
Yeah....blame a kid for going somewhere where he’s guaranteed to win at least 1-2 national titles before he declares early and heads into the first round of the draft. Or he could come here, lose to OSU every year, and never even sniff the playoff.
I don’t blame him.
|12/08/2018 - 8:31pm||Exactly. Why I got downvoted…||
Exactly. Why I got downvoted for saying the same thing, I don’t know.
I’m not a troll or a hater. I’m a realist. This program is leaps and bounds beyond where it was four years ago. But it’s not even remotely close to elite.
|12/08/2018 - 8:28pm||Until we start beating OSU…||
Until we start beating OSU we should just get used to this. Michigan is a good to great program, but we are not elite right now.
Not even remotely on the same level as Alabama, Clemson or OSU. So I don’t blame a kid for wanting to go there over Michigan right now.
|12/08/2018 - 8:24pm||You’re comparing apples to…||
You’re comparing apples to oranges
|12/08/2018 - 7:04pm||Can you blame him? Our…||
Can you blame him? Our defense shit it’s collective pants in the biggest game of the year and looked like a RichRod defense. If I wanted to win national titles and Alabama was an option for me, I don’t know why I’d go anywhere else.
Wish he would’ve stayed, but I don’t blame him for leaving.
|12/08/2018 - 3:07pm||One hell of an ending to the…||
One hell of an ending to the Kentucky-Seton Hall game.
|12/07/2018 - 9:37pm||Of course. Because a holier…||
Of course. Because a holier than thou bible thumping university like that might as well hire that man and pretend it’s still the year 1250 where everyone except them is going straight to hell.
|12/07/2018 - 12:44pm||I don't think they'd even…||
I don't think they'd even need cross-region rivalries. Enough teams will want to play Texas in any given year that they could get along just fine w/o them.
I imagine if they went independent, they'd work out a deal with Oklahoma to still be on their schedule every year, they'd probably try to work out a deal with A&M for getting back on their schedule, throw in a MAC cupcake or two, and for the remaining 8-9 games, have your suitors lining up to play you. Even if Texas isn't good in any given year, teams will want to play them because of the brand name, and its also big exposure for their own program.
|12/07/2018 - 11:10am||I just don't see how it…||
I just don't see how it would work, especially with Texas and its Longhorn Network. While I don't know all of the logistics, I'm guessing the Big Ten would tell Texas that to join the conference, they have to drop the Longhorn Network and go to BTN, which Texas just isn't going to do. There has to be way too much money tied up for them to make a move like that.
The only way I could see them leaving the Big XII is that everyone else is jumping ship and they don't want to be left out in the cold without a conference to play in. Although Texas might be the one other team in America outside of ND that could get away with being an independent.
|12/06/2018 - 3:26pm||To me personally, no it…||
To me personally, no it wouldn't. But I think I would "respect" a national title in basketball more than I would in football. Mostly just because outside of the Stanley Cup, there is probably no title harder to win in American sports than the NCAA tournament. They call it March Madness for a reason.
Not to discredit what a football title would mean, but I think its easier to attain one than a basketball national title.
|12/05/2018 - 4:15pm||Its tempting, but I'd rather…||
Its tempting, but I'd rather pass. Assuming UM and OSU are the two best teams in the conference, it almost completely devalues The Game, or at least the first one that's played. If both teams were undefeated coming in, that first game would be meaningless unless one team got completely blown out.
I'd be a fan of re-aligning the divisions, because the West has been so grossly tilted in Wisconsin's favor for years. Maybe swap PSU for Purdue to give Wisconsin an extra challenge, and then Purdue/IU don't need a protected crossover, so it allows them more frequent exposure to teams from the other division.
|12/05/2018 - 3:40pm||Of course he's going to say…||
Of course he's going to say that. He's an effing Buckeye looking to troll Michigan as much as he can. Must've gotten this information from his fall guy.
|12/05/2018 - 3:37pm||And yet he's 0-4 against…||
And yet he's 0-4 against Urban. Jesus man, you're embaressing yourself.
Harbaugh could win the game for the next ten years straight. Won't change the fact that when Urban was here, he owned Harbaugh. Plain and simple.
|12/05/2018 - 3:13pm||Ehh I think at this point, a…||
Ehh I think at this point, a 2020 kid de-committing isn't much to worry about for them. It's more of a "wait and see how things look next year" kind of approach. If they want to come back, I'm sure there will be spots for them.
Now if 2019 kids start de-committing, then you've got something there.
|12/05/2018 - 12:25pm||Of course he would say that…||
Of course he would say that. He’s a fucking Buckeye.
Probably heard it from his fall guy.
|12/05/2018 - 12:17pm||Of course he would say that…||
Of course he would say that. He’s a fucking Buckeye.
Probably heard it from his fall guy.
|12/04/2018 - 10:01pm||Hope he stays out of 5 star…||
Hope he stays out of 5 star status. How many 5 star RBs have completely flamed out here?
Its like a curse.
|12/04/2018 - 4:47pm||We’ll drop a few games…||
We’ll drop a few games eventually. It’s inevitable. And it would make sense when you’re going on the road against an opponent you really can’t get up for. After two big time home games in a row.
I think they’ll win tonight but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was closer than it ought to be.
|12/04/2018 - 2:59pm||Whatever. He'll have to…||
Whatever. He'll have to forgive me for not feeling bad for him. Go take your millions, enjoy retirement, and never coach a single down against Michigan ever again.
|12/04/2018 - 1:57pm||They must have a lot of…||
They must have a lot of faith in him. I get it. He acquitted himself well during Urban's three game suspension, there's more than enough talent on the team to have faith that he'll do well for the duration, and he's not going to go away much from what worked under Meyer. I imagine it'll be largely the same schemes/philosophies.
The only knock against Day is that the teams he had to coach against didn't really have a pulse, especially considering that TCU wasn't as good as we all thought they were 2-3 months ago. Against Oregon St and Rutgers, you literally could've pulled a drunken OSU sorostitute out of the stands, put a headset on her and gave her a playbook, and OSU would've still won by no less than 3 TDs. So we don't know yet how good Day is as an in-game coach.
I think OSU is willing to take a chance on a young up and comer, though. Minnesota has done it with PJ Fleck with decent results so far, the Rams have done it with Sean McVay and have received results beyond their wildest dreams. If OSU hits another home run with Day, they've essentially secured their future for the next 15-20 years as long as he doesn't have NFL aspirations. If they don't, they'll still have enough cache as a program within 3-5 years to move on from him and get another top hire.
|12/04/2018 - 11:10am||For now, I don’t think so…||
For now, I don’t think so. Not in a big way anyway. Day is not going to go away from what’s worked and the foundation Meyer put in place. There may be a kid or two that decommits, but I doubt it’ll have an enormous impact this year. Emphasis on THIS year.
If they don’t play well next year, lose a couple of games, or even lose to Michigan, then yeah, the wheels of that machine will start falling off. But until then, probably business as usual for the most part.
|12/04/2018 - 8:00am||Fine by me. Good riddance…||
Fine by me. Good riddance. Maybe this will be the nudge this program finally needs to get over that hump and beat them.
OSU is going to be good no matter who they hire, but whoever replaces Meyer is an automatic downgrade.
|12/03/2018 - 6:50pm||Okay, well what do you…||
Okay, well what do you propose we do about it? Clemson and Alabama are two of the three remaining undefeated teams in America. What are you going to do? Leave them out?
What would you say if it was Michigan in this position? You would flip an absolute shit if they got left out.
You're just pissed because Michigan isn’t in. I get it, but we had our chance and we whiffed. We whiffed as badly as anyone could’ve possibly whiffed.
|12/03/2018 - 2:37pm||If he's a projected first…||
If he's a projected first round pick, he needs to declare. He'd have nothing left to prove, as far as the league was concerned.
The only reason he'd stay is if he felt a personal calling to do so. Like one of those "I can't leave w/o beating OSU or winning the Big Ten" kind of things. Would be admirable to say the least, and exciting for the fans, but definitely a risk on his part. Minus a few inches of height, he has everything you look for in today's NFL linebacker.
|12/03/2018 - 1:24pm||And how that wasn't all…||
And how that wasn't all erased when they became the first #1 seed to lose to a #16 seed, I'll never know.
Never mind that they were the #1 overall seed, and especially never mind that it wasn't a fluke loss. They got their asses kicked up and down the court.
|12/03/2018 - 1:16pm||Might be time for him to…||
Might be time for him to just take his millions and retire. Or if he really needs to be around the game, go find a job coaching DII/DIII or HS football where there is no pressure to win, but rather just be competitive and graduate your players. I don't see him commentating on a regular basis. His "aw shucks" demeanor just doesn't make for good TV, I think.
Not saying anything that hasn't been said about him thousands of times on this board already, but Brady strikes me as a guy where the game has just passed him by. 20 years ago, yeah, he was on top of his game and commanding a title-winning DL. But the game of football was different back then. It's changed, and he hasn't changed with it.
If I were him I know what I'd be doing right about now. Taking my severance pay from the Panthers (and Tennessee, and Oregon, and Michigan) and planning a trip where I'm flying the whole family, first class, to Bora Bora for Christmas. Putting myself in the penthouse at the Four Seasons and having butlers/maids waiting on me hand and foot. The man has been fired more in the last 3-4 years than most people get in their entire life. Whether he admits it or not, that's a huge toll to take on a person's self-esteem. I hope he takes time to get away from the game, lick his wounds, and treat himself. Not like he doesn't have the money.
|12/03/2018 - 1:00pm||Any on-field position, sure…||
Any on-field position, sure. But he'd be a great recruiter. Those 2012-13 classes, on paper, were some of the best that Michigan ever had. And you could see how much he loved this place. That definitely permeated into the living room when he was recruiting players and their families.
|12/03/2018 - 9:38am||Just make sure you pick your…||
Just make sure you pick your toe knives up off the floor before you have guests over, Mantis. Wrap those botched toes up!