Tyree Kinnel makes a tackle against Northwestern
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Tuesday Pressers 10-17-18: Players Comment Count

Ethan Sears October 17th, 2018 at 2:57 AM

Things Discussed

  • The movie 300
  • A sort of injury update on Tarik Black
  • Shea Patterson using his legs
  • Rivalry games

[After THE JUMP: We waited over an hour for Shea. Please click]

 

Tyree Kinnel

 

What was going on with your — leg cramps or?

 

“Whole lower-body cramps. First time I went down, it was my right hamstring. Second time was both of my calves, and then my hip all just locked up on me. Terrible feeling, so I’m good now, but talked to the doctors, nutritionist and everything. And we’re gonna fix that, so hopefully I won’t go down again, cramping.”

 

Just a hydration thing?

 

“Hydration was good. Didn’t really eat much throughout the day. But now we’re gonna fix all that. I talked to the nutritionist, and they got me on a couple things that I’m taking. So hopefully I don't have to go through that again.”

 

 

What challenges does (Brian) Lewerke present?

 

“I mean, he’s good on his feet. He throws a good ball, quick release. I think this is like his third year in the system, so he’s really comfortable back there, and you can just tell watching the film, he’s gonna be a challenge for us.”

 

 

When you’re working as a captain, you and Devin (Bush), do you cross over with the offensive players, too, or do you just feel like you captain the defensive guys?

 

“Yeah, we have a lot of conversations together. Coach (Jim) Harbaugh gave us the choice of the team movie last week for the first time, so we had a good conversation to pick the movie, the captains.”

 

Which was?

 

“It’s actually funny, we picked 300. Spartans, so, but that was last week. Definitely won’t watch that this week.”

 

Why 300 last week?

 

“We thought that was a good movie to watch. Good war movie. Good fighting movie. Thought it would be a good movie to watch before a game. We didn’t realize that the Spartan thing — until it was on — that we played them next week. But we won’t be watching them this Friday.”

 

You really didn’t realize?

 

“I mean, some people might’ve, but as the captains, as we was discussing it, we didn’t realize it at first.”

 

 

Has coach Harbaugh given the captains any other decisions to make?

 

“It’s just, you just pretty much — we lead. We try to lead as captains, in the locker room, on the field, by our actions and what we do outside of football. Everyone is a leader on this team, everyone’s been following the right lead. So captain-wise, we try to do it by example.”

 

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Nico Collins

 

How has the offense changed now that Shea (Patterson) is becoming more of a running threat?

 

“I feel like ever since our loss at Notre Dame, we’ve improved on everything throughout the week, each game. And I feel like we — as an offense — we all came together as a unit, and we just continue to improve.”

 

Tyree said one thing that stood out about the offense is the confidence. How do you build confidence after last year’s struggles, and then you lose to Notre Dame, I guess how does that build?

 

“Just improvement. Each week we can improve on the small things, and we just came together as a unit. And we see whether we can do it.”

 

How much did that Northwestern comeback have to do with this?

 

“A lot. At halftime, we was losing. That’s when the captains stepped up in the locker room and said, let’s go out there and get this win. It’s a Big Ten game and we needed this win. So that’s when we all came together, and gave it our all.”

 

 

How close is Tarik (Black) to coming back?

 

“He’s coming back. He’s coming. We see him every day. Every day he’s improving, out there running routes a little bit, trying to get his groove back. But I feel like he’s gonna come back.”

 

How has he handled this?

 

“Handled what?”

 

Sitting out with a broken foot

 

“Oh, he’s been hurting. Cause he wants to come out there and join us bad. He’s just been telling us he’s gonna come out there, he gonna come and we all gonna come together. … But I feel like he’s gonna come back.”

 

He’s running routes? How close to full speed?

 

“I’m not sure. I don’t know. He’s doing rehab, but we’ve just seen him doing stuff on the treadmill and it looked pretty good to me. Hope he comes back soon — this week hopefully.”

 

 

Have you seen the captains act with a greater sense of urgency, starting from last week?

 

“Yeah. I have. It’s captains being captains. That’s what captains are supposed to do … and that’s what they’re doing. Telling us it’s a big week right here, so just continue to every day, practice and practice hard.”

 

 

How much did you know about Shea Patterson before he got here? What kind of quarterback he is?

 

“I really didn’t know as much about Shea. I knew he was a great quarterback, but watching him — he played at Ole Miss — watching him play against these big-time teams, what he can do with the ball, it’s pretty amazing.”

 

Is he where you thought he would be or better than you thought he would be?

 

“I feel like he’s better. I feel like he’s improved on everything. … He watches fil on the things he can do better. That’s what he’s doing.”

 

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Shea Patterson

 

(Shea walks in with an ice bag tied to his left hand)

 

Same thing from Saturday, the handoff?

 

“Yeah.”

 

How many stitches did you get?

 

“Five.”

 

 

Shea, you played rivalry games in high school, I’m sure at Ole Miss, probably, I imagine Mississippi State. Do you know a lot about this and does it feel different based on a couple days of practice?

 

“Yeah, I know it. Kind of grew up around the rivalry. I know how important of a game it is for both Michigan State and us. We just — we’re gonna attack it with the same enthusiasm we have been the last six weeks. Just take it one game at a time.”

 

 

Is Tarik Black possible (to come back)?

 

“Possibly, yeah. We’re not very sure yet. But could be this week, could be next week, could be the week after that, but no, I know, I’ve seen him every single day. He’s working his tail off to get back.”

 

 

Did you get the stitches on the sideline or after the game?

 

“After the game.”

 

Has it limited you in practice at all?

 

“Not at all.”

 

Shea, how much have you still worked on the timing — the clock in your head, in terms of when to bail, when to stay in? Is that still a process for you?

 

“Yeah, it’s a day to day thing. Each — every quarterback in the country has something that they need to work on, and that’s something I’m gonna continue to harp on. And ball security as well. Gotta protect the ball. Each day just get better at something.”

 

Do you feel like you made strides from when you were playing a year ago until now in that area? Maybe more than a lot of other spots?

 

“Yeah, definitely. I’m just gaining more knowledge about the game, just being around our players and our coaches who have so much knowledge and have been around the game for so long. You’re just around them 24/7, seven days a week. It’s definitely an advantage.”

 

 

You said on the radio a couple weeks ago — maybe it was last week — that you’ve learned more from Pep (Hamilton) and Jim in the couple months after you got here than you had your whole football life. What did you mean by that? What have you learned?

 

“Just knowledge about football. Knowledge about defense and coverages, football as a whole. And work ethic in practice, and just how to carry yourself during practice. Really with coach Pep, it’s just the little things that have gotten me a lot better. Just kinda staying loaded in the pocket, not bouncing around and trying to maybe throw. Just always being in that position to throw the ball.”

 

 

You talked about getting better at learning to throw the ball away and learning to bail out of the pocket. How do you think you’re doing (at that)?

 

“I threw a couple away last game. That’s progression. But yeah. Just understanding the situation, field position, and not getting us out of field goal range. I could have done a better job against Wisconsin of doing that. Just managing. Just being a manager in the offense. That’s one thing I’m focusing on right now.”

Comments

Don

October 17th, 2018 at 8:45 AM ^

"I’m not sure. I don’t know. He’s doing rehab, but we’ve just seen him doing stuff on the treadmill"

Doesn't sound like he'll be playing against MSU.

1VaBlue1

October 17th, 2018 at 8:52 AM ^

I see that they were prepped on how to respond to injury questions...  Nico: "I feel like he's going to come back"; Shea: "...could be back this week, or next, or the week after that..."

Uhh, thanks?

#Harbaugh'd!!

East Quad

October 17th, 2018 at 8:57 AM ^

Adam Biggers asked Shea a question that implied that Miss State had no playmakers like Shea has here. Shea corrected him.  Ethan did not transcribe that mess of a question.

UMForLife

October 17th, 2018 at 9:01 AM ^

It is much easier to correct mistakes when the players have talent and are willing to leave  more. Really like this group of kids and see why they are making progress each week. Spartans should be afraid as this team is going to take it to them. The 11 has a plan to destroy the 300.

EGD

October 17th, 2018 at 10:57 AM ^

One thing that stood out to me from All or Nothing was how Wilton Speight approached his own mistakes and the resulting criticism.  He'd overthrow receivers or turn the ball over, but the team would win and so he'd go back and tell his girlfriend that he played well, that his critics don't know what they're talking about, etc.  

Patterson leads the team to a blowout win over Wisconsin, and all he wants to talk about is improving his ball security and making better decisions in the pocket.  He's asked about his 81-yard run and his answer is that he should have scored.

I realize what a guy says doesn't always reflect how hard he works.  But man, one guy has his team ranked #6 and showing weekly improvement, while the other guy is now backing up a true freshman on a 1-5 team.

MDSup3rDup3

October 17th, 2018 at 12:39 PM ^

I think that mentality is really important and really overlooked. Speight had tools and showed upside as a game manager (see Minnesota Halloween game). But Shea wants to make everyone better. That's something that you have to have buy in on. You can't make a guy watch his film and see his mistakes. Someone that wants to correct them will do so. Great to see that Michigan is bringing in guys who want to be that way

DelhiWolverine

October 17th, 2018 at 12:54 PM ^

You can tell Shea spends a ton of time with Jim Harbaugh because he talks just like him. Same little phrases and similar reluctance to give away any details about injuries, game plan, etc. 

UMfan21

October 17th, 2018 at 3:28 PM ^

Yes on the televised game they mentioned it, showed a close up of it bleeding as he came to the bench, showed trainers working on him at least twice.  Gave an update from the sideline reporter.  Finally they showed them bandage it up before he went back in the game.  It was covered pretty in depth on TV.

Section 1.8

October 17th, 2018 at 1:11 PM ^

The question about Shea's left hand mentions a "handoff."  Is that a typo?  I mean, we all know what happened; the back of his left hand was cut by contact with a Wisconsin player's facemask hardware.

When did a "handoff" come into it?

Reason I ask is because I presume that the ice treatment is incidental to his getting that wound cleaned, and five stitches going into it.  And that will absolutely require him to wear a glove on that hand.  I presume that, but I don't know...

But beyond that, the odd thing to me about Shea and gloves is that he began the Wisconsin game with a glove on his right (throwing) hand.  I always had a hard time understanding gloves on quarterbacks' throwing hands.  Notwithstanding my wearing a glove on my left hand while playing golf.  (And with all due respect to Fred Couples and Ben Hogan, it is weird for me to play golf without a glove.)

Is Wisconsin the only game in college where Shea wore a glove?  (Ending the game with two gloves.)

DY

October 17th, 2018 at 1:30 PM ^

The question I have is what’s the shittiest weather Shea has ever played in? He went to high school in FL and spent two years in Mississippi. I’m guessing he’s played in rain but probably hasn’t played in too many games below 50 degrees. My assumption is the glove on the throwing hand is a function of not being used to playing in colder weather.

Mongo

October 17th, 2018 at 1:42 PM ^

Yes - that is the question I would have asked him - why the glove on the right (throwing) hand to start the game?  Maybe in colder weather he has a better grip with the glove.  But it was odd to see a glove on only the throwing hand to start the game. 

Brady wore the glove at his injury but now, even healed-up, goes to it in cold weather.  Peyton Manning went with the throwing glove in cold weather and he said it really helped his accuracy. Big Ben has always worn a throwing glove.  So if it works for them, why not give it a try.

Section 1.8

October 17th, 2018 at 2:21 PM ^

Yeah, exactly right.  And in hindsight I think it is pretty cool, that Shea did that, and went out and threw so beautifully.  

Obviously, they make gloves for quarterbacks in 2018 that aren't like any gloves that I've ever worn.

If Shea can put a glove on his throwing hand and play like that, I guess I won't be too worried about a glove on his non-throwing hand.

 

NotADuck

October 17th, 2018 at 1:31 PM ^

If I was to bet money on which game we see Tarik play next, it would be Penn State after the bye week.  Nico makes it sound like there is a chance he comes back this week but l'm sticking with UMBig11's comment on 247 a few weeks ago (early november).

Mongo

October 17th, 2018 at 1:47 PM ^

Until he is in full contact mode at practice, he isn't playing in a game.  Best guess is PSU, with full contact starting up during the bye week with full game prep practice the following week.  Will be great to get a healthy Black into the rotation.  It would be awesome to see Black and Collins as the wide-outs and DPJ in the slot ... think of those route possibilities.  Go Blue !!!