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10/18/2018 - 10:32am I didn't get that one either…

I didn't get that one either. It's not like they planted a Michigan flag, spray painted the field, or ripped up the turf. It was a metaphor used for team building. Not a very good one, but that wasn't anything super disrespectful.

10/18/2018 - 10:24am There's also a version of…

There's also a version of this game where a PSU DT whose knees were just chopped on 3rd down of a successful goal line stand doesn't retaliate by punching a guy in the facemask.

Someone go tell Bush not to be a dumb dumb and get a Personal Foul penalty like he did last year after MSU haystacked him after the whistle blew. He jaws with guys and retaliates. If I see a Bush or Delano Hill type face smack or late push on a pile, I'm going to lose it. MSU will try to bait him and others.

Don't. Retaliate.

10/17/2018 - 9:42pm I'm hoping between McGrone…

I'm hoping between McGrone/Anthony and Ross/Gil there will be enough talent to mitigate a large drop off from Bush. It won't be unnoticeable, but maybe not too serious.

10/17/2018 - 8:42am You mean to tell me that…

You mean to tell me that Patterson has learned more from Harbaugh and Hamilton than he did the guys running that offense at Ole Miss?


Shocked! Shocked I tell you!!

10/16/2018 - 2:46pm It's not a MSU v. Michigan…

It's not a MSU v. Michigan thing.

Look at MSU v. Maryland last year. Maryland was down to Bortenschloger (sp) at Spartan Stadium and almost pulled that upset because of the snow. Play that game in dry conditions and MSU's offense can actually throw against 9 man boxes and not fumble/slip in the open field.

10/16/2018 - 11:18am Valid point, however it's…

Valid point, however it's generally not a good sign that the weather prediction has gotten worse as we've gotten closer to the weekend.

Had Monday's forecast been today's and then Tuesday been slightly better, you could project the conditions getting better and better as the days draw on. Getting worse is not a good sign even this far out.

10/16/2018 - 11:17am I still don't trust that it…

I still don't trust that it will go well. Maybe fine, but not exceptional.

MSU's DL > Wisconsin DL by a wide margin.

MSU LBs have less holes than Wisconsin's (Connelly and Edwards being really freaking good) and will depend on that group less sans Bachie.

10/15/2018 - 4:50pm I grew up in EL. have a…

I grew up in EL. have a parent who teaches at MSU, girl friends who were assaulted by Nassar, and a sister who saw Nassar as well (for a thumb injury - she was not assaulted) and the complete and utter disregard for any serious changes has pissed me off to no end.

At the end of the trial, a bunch of MSU friends put up those green Xs on their Facebook profiles and said they wouldn't support the University in any capacity until significant changes were made.

Since that time, Engler has disparaged the lead victim in an email and took 8 DAYS TO APOLOGIZE.

Engler, who would not be allowed to name a new AD, named a new AD with no repercussions.

Engler also said they would push for State funding and tuition increases to help pay for the legal troubles.

And with all of that happening, those friends have removed the green Xs and attended games and scheduled tailgates. I guess those actions were deemed "significant changes" in their eyes.

10/15/2018 - 2:17pm Worst case scenario:


Worst case scenario:

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Harbaugh and Pep are bad play callers, but I think they will try to run at MSU too much. It's necessary to set up some other stuff and keep them honest, but MSU's DL is good at what it does and the LBs come down hair on fire to stop the run. If you don't get a hat on Bachie, he's going to ruin running plays.

They'll do their quarters coverage and drop LBs into lanes which we've seen Patterson hesitate at a few times this year (not to a scary level or anything, just not always super confident in it). If the WRs and TEs struggle to get open, it's going to be a slog because that's how you get after MSU (though I have no idea what happened with the PSU game since I don't have BTN).

They'll scheme together 2 good drives that end in points. FGs and TOD like 2016 or TDs like 2017 will make a huge difference. Davis is a problem and generally speaking Lewerke throws up a few jump balls per game. Again, if 2017 happens again when the MSU WRs catch those jump balls, that will be concerning. A lot of back shoulder fades and slants.

Nordin still being somewhat scattershot is also a concern.

Have to absorb the big shots MSU will take early. Reverses, wacky screens, an the like. Take those on, don't break, get a lead and I think MSU struggles to come back. They'll throw out 1/2 their playbook (running plays) and if they can't get completions they're screwed.

10/12/2018 - 3:32pm Hard to "drive the field"…

Hard to "drive the field" every single time and average over 75 yards/drive when Wisconsin "punts from their own goal line" with a punter who averages 40 air yards/punt with a 35 net.

Basically means Michigan will have to average over 80 yards/drive if they get Wisconsin to punt from their own goal line. So each kick return doesn't make it past the 20?

Michigan didn't even accomplish that against Maryland, whose defense is ranked similarly and is less disciplined (more athletic though).

Edwards was a 2-star recruit. Connolly wasn't even ranked. Van Ginkel was a 3 star as a JUCO transfer. Point being, Wisconsin has never relied on high ranked recruits on the defensive side of the ball. The names you brought up who were recruited by Andersen were almost all 3 stars as well so there hasn't been this huge drop off.

10/12/2018 - 2:37pm You think Michigan will put…

You think Michigan will put up the most yardage since 2016 Maryland against a Wisconsin defense?

Even a against a depleted Wisconsin defense, you think Michigan will average 75+ yards/drive and score every time?

Unless you're including kick/punt returns in total yardage, I know pot is legal in AA but dude, put the blunt down.

10/12/2018 - 2:28pm Michigan 24 - Wisconsin 20

Michigan 24 - Wisconsin 20

A lot like the 2016 game wherein it's close throughout and while Wisconsin has a chance to pull ahead multiple times, they never quite do.

Over 125 for Taylor on the ground

2 TDs for Patterson

10/12/2018 - 1:55pm Ok, you could say you don't…

Ok, you could say you don't like Ann Arbor, that's... an opinion.

But the opinion that East Lansing (where I grew up) is a better town than Ann Arbor almost makes me hurt from laughing. EL would be farm fields (pretty much is) if it weren't for MSU being there. All that's there is Grand River, which (even while being updated) is a strip of run of the mill food places not unique to any place in the country. Lansing sucks and only has Old Town. Some of the EL bars are fun though.

Also, South Bend is basically Gary Indiana if it had a massive income producing employer attached to it. Notre Dame is its own town and refuses to be part of South Bend because of how shitty it is.

10/12/2018 - 11:49am I do enjoy the hawk and…

I do enjoy the hawk and goatee additions.

10/12/2018 - 11:09am I was going to make the…

I was going to make the argument that FBs have to do something ridiculous other than a couple dozen carries for 40 yards and some TDs in this day and age to be Dangerman level, but then I remembered Wisconsin's FB has a star so... Yeah give Mason one.

10/11/2018 - 4:23pm You brought up Paye playing…

You brought up Paye playing DT a lot.

Just for fun? Or was that implying that he could play DT against Wisconsin? Probably the latter.

I said that's not a good way to deal with Wisconsin's 330lb OL.

Jesus, you and whats his face are insufferable.

10/11/2018 - 4:06pm Let's revisit this after the…

Let's revisit this after the game douche bag. 

Yes, I'm the douche bag who came out and called the guy asking the question stupid. What you seem to not understand is the DTs holding up against Wisconsin Saturday night does not make you right. My argument is the current situation at DT is not a comfortable one because of the questions with Solomon, Kemp, and Dwumfor. If 2/3 of them turn out to be healthy enough to play and do well, fucking great! That doesn't mean going into a game like this with these question marks is something that we can all just wash aside.

I guarantee Hudson, who is #2 on the depth chart at RT Tackle will not play defense. 

Holy shit you can't read, can you? I literally said "I'm not saying moving Hudson to DT is a good idea." 

Do you know how long Solomon has been practicing? No you don't, but Harbaugh said last week, he was week to week, which means he's always a possibility.

I know he practiced twice last week so that's not every day. I expect him to get more practice time this week and probably get a few snaps in. I also don't expect the guy who just missed a month because of knee surgery to come out and be 5 star all of a sudden because that would be an almost impossible ask of the kid.

So again if you think that is me being "clever" you don't know football. 

Calling you "clever" had nothing to do with football jackass. It had to do with you responding like a little ass hole for no reason.

10/11/2018 - 3:55pm I never said that. I…

I never said that. I expressly stated "I'm not saying moving Hudson to DT is a good idea".

Try reading.

10/11/2018 - 1:27pm Mostly on passing downs and…

Mostly on passing downs and against the likes of Northwestern (who does not run and when they do it's not inside power) and Maryland (who runs side to side).

Paye is there because there is no Hurst to pass rush from a 3T spot (Dwumfor coming on late not withstanding). Relying on a 260lb DE at 3T against Wisconsin's OL is not a position you want to be in.

10/11/2018 - 1:26pm  If needed in a pinch…

 If needed in a pinch Solomon will play. If he is practicing, he can play.

Hasn't played since the ND game and had knee surgery. That's not a great depth piece to have to possibly rely upon at the moment.

 Kemp will play.

Right, and I as I mentioned, he was hurt last week and had to come out so assuming he's 100% good to go is based on nothing.

 Jeter might have to absorb some snaps

Again, not a great situation to be in to depend on a RS freshman who has gotten almost 0 meaningful snaps to "absorb" snaps against one of the best OLs in the country.

 Paye might have to move inside.

He has moved inside to be a pass rushing 3T against teams that don't run downhill, not to play the run against one of the best OLs in the country. Plus, he's 260lbs. Good luck standing up 330lb Wisconsin OGs.

 Rashan might haveto move inside.

Nagging shoulder injury, playing 3T even though he really never has at Michigan. Better than the other options, still not a situation you want to be in.

 All those guys will play inside before a kid who hasn't played defense since the beginning of fall camp last year,

Yeah, no shit. I wasn't arguing that. I specifically said that I wasn't arguing moving Hudson was a good idea. The point is you don't want to go up against one of the best OLs in the country with plan Ds and Es, using guys who are just bodies to throw out there because that's how you give up yards. Expecting the DL to be "fine" based on Jeter, Solomon, and Paye (all of which have very big problems attached) isn't smart. They could come out and survive, but that doesn't make that approach good.

 What do you perceive to be clever? 

--> "Yep, very stupid. Remember though, there are no stupid questions, just stupid people asking them."

"Clever" might not be the right word. Maybe douchey is better.

10/11/2018 - 12:16pm You just named 4 total DTs.

You just named 4 total DTs.

1 who has almost 0 meaningful experience and has been getting reps with a walk-on (Jeter).

1 who is injured (Kemp).

I'm not saying moving Hudson to DT is a good idea. I'm saying your response, that you think is clever, isn't.

10/11/2018 - 10:32am I think Iowa is top 10 in…

I think Iowa is top 10 in defensive S&P.

Just checked, they're 8th. So pretty good with some not great CBs.

10/10/2018 - 8:31pm I was by no means an elite…

I was by no means an elite athlete, but when a ball was over my head and I knew I could get it, I jumped higher than I expected and often wasn't prepared for it (blew out my knee thinking I was landing before I did).

That happens to athletes who are a lot more athletic than us. You see the "roll the windows down" type situation when guys get too high. Brain shuts off and they know they can get that ball, jump for it/sprint full speed without thinking RUN FASTER and they get too high or over run the ball a bit. Dial it in and you get Edwards.

10/10/2018 - 8:25pm They're better coached than…

They're better coached than Maryland. Maryland might have the better ranked athletes like Anieboman, Brooks, and Cowart, but Wisconsin's DT, Edwards, and Connelly do their jobs every time.

Michigan can out athlete a lot of teams and out execute others. When the gap in those 2 things is narrower, well... We'll start to see this weekend.

10/10/2018 - 8:22pm The safety was dropping to…

The safety was dropping to cover Perry and then redirected. I think Patterson saw him heading for Perry, took his eyes to Bell and threw the ball without seeing the safety having stopped chasing Perry.

Explainable and not horrible, but risky.

10/10/2018 - 4:28pm Harbaugh said Solomon…

Harbaugh said Solomon practiced twice last week.

Didn't mention in what capacity though.

10/10/2018 - 10:55am Which is just bonkers…

Which is just bonkers because ELPD/MSU PD is THE. WORST.

I grew up in EL and partied a lot around there. ELPD and MSU PD freaking sucked and seemingly took every opportunity to charge you with something, no matter how small.

10/10/2018 - 9:25am TCU had a lot of screens and…

TCU had a lot of screens and crossers as well. They took that big shot early but after that basically stuck with curls, ins, outs (all around 7-10 yards) and a couple of deeper crossers that fell incomplete.

The big break late came on a screen as well that went for like 60 yards.

10/09/2018 - 11:08pm Want to point out average…

Want to point out average depth per target in the conference.

Haskins is 2nd to last, only outpacing Ramsey. A full yard and a half behind Shea.

Screens, crossers, and slants with the less frequent deep posts or fades.

10/09/2018 - 9:33pm Saw it on Reddit so I can't…

Never mind. Incorrect/unobtainable information.

10/09/2018 - 11:41am The guy is 6'7". Unless he…

The guy is 6'7". Unless he has a noodle arm like Osweiler, I have to imagine he can throw it over them mountains. I want to see a bomb. Not a little 25 yarder. Throw back across the field, 70 yards in the air.

10/09/2018 - 11:28am Not just his Twitter stream…

Not just his Twitter stream. His bio is hilarious.

He's in New Mexico so I'm sure there are plenty of people who, if they were on Twitter, would nod their head and say "you're damn right!" when reading his Tweets.

10/09/2018 - 10:57am I saw the Tweet from Bryan …

I saw the Tweet from Bryan (I think) last night and was curious so I went to find this guy on Twitter (on which I don't actually post).

Just... woof.

10/07/2018 - 4:09pm You can see an at least not…

You can see an at least not tire fire offense pieced together from NW and Maryland.

Not saying the offense is great or anything, but the Gaz and Fisher didn't dominate. They had some nice plays, but last year we saw 1 or 2 guys completely destroy the offense.

Maryland has Cowart, Anieboman, and Brooks. None are necessarily Young/Bosa/Bachie level guys, but they're not whatever Nebraska threw out on the field.

Yes, still wait and see to the larger extent. But this OL and offense as a whole has a much higher floor than last year's which is a good start. If the can keep Shea's head on his body, they should do more damage than last year against the 3 teams they're about to run into.

10/07/2018 - 3:30pm Wisconsin is not built to…

Wisconsin is not built to run away from teams with equal or better talent. They bludgeon teams to death and it usually takes a while to pop a final blow. So long as Michigan's DTs hold up, they should be in the game even if the offense doesn't do well. Last year (I know, with Hurst) with an offense that didn't go 3 and out every play, Michigan was leading/in a position to compete till the end. With an offense that goes 3 and out over and over again, Wisconsin finally pulled away. So long as the offense is competent and doesn't make big mistakes/put Wisconsin in favorable field position, a repeat of 2016 is possible in that it's close, but Wisconsin never really has a chance to put that final blow in and win/push the game to the brink.

MSU is MSU. Their OL might suck, but they'll scheme a way to get some big gains on misdirection or QB scrambles (OPTIONS!!!). That and their WRs are legitimately good. They could feasibly throw up jump balls and crossers/slants all game and move the ball pretty well. They are built to boom or bust on Michigan's blitzing. If they can break the 1 tackle necessary to get a big gain, there will be problems. Similarly, they'll throw the ball where the LBs blitzed from a lot. I've rewatched a lot of the MSU game from last year and they almost never ran routes that left Lewerke in a position to get hit. Gary and Winovich were moving their OTs, but Lewerke was getting the ball out quick and then they went into clock kill mode. There was almost always a hitch or seam that they had if they needed to get out of something quickly or die.

PSU is a wildcard. Their offense can either go off similar to how it did last year with landing >50% of jump balls and McSorley can legitimately break defenses, or they could rely too much on one guy (McSorley like they did Barkley) and bog down. Mix that in with a defense that is ok, but not great, and Michigan just has to survive the barrage of opening shots. If they can do that and get up a 10-14 points I don't think PSU will come back. They have the ability to score in bunches and quick, but I don't know if they can make the adjustments necessary in game if they don't get a lead to start with.

Edit: All of this is assuming that the OL continues to be B or B+ in pass protection and Harbaugh doesn't try to run at stacked boxes (or MSU in general). If Michigan comes out with 2 TEs and Mason and tries to run at MSU, they're going nowhere. It's not a function of MSU playing poor running teams, they are legitimately good at stopping the run. Their DTs are solid and competent (not crazy good or anything like Hurst) and their LBs come down with hair on fire. Add in their safeties who are ready to get to the LOS and you run into a defense that can stop the run with violence and a team that can be picked apart through the air. Michigan needs a semblance of a running threat to make PA somewhat plausible so MSU doesn't just sit their LBs at 5 yards to cut off slants/seams, but they won't be successful with 1 yard runs and then trying to run PA.

Also, Wisconsin's LBs are dudes. Running at them and their NT is easier than running at MSU, but I wouldn't want to try and do it for 3+ quarters if a score is needed.

10/03/2018 - 9:49pm Not disagreeing with the…

Not disagreeing with the larger point, but JKP was a 4 star, 250 overall.

10/02/2018 - 5:19pm I mean, Brian has kind of…

I mean, Brian has kind of stumbled (I say that because I don't think he believes it nor intentionally points it out) into this idea of "always 1 guy away". As in, that 1 run was set up to perfection except the 1 guy missed his assignment.

That has been a consistent theme for the last couple of years as far as I can remember. Specifically on running plays - (not counting the WRs since they are 15 yards from the ball or the QB who hands it off) 7/8 guys run the play correctly but that 8th guy turfs it and it's always a different 8th guy. When it comes down to every player within a 5 yard radius doing their job each time, you can't expect those guys to win even a majority of their assignments against equal talent/coaching.

BUT, the opposite idea is also holding true in that the coaching staff knows the limitations of their players and try to scheme around it. Sometimes it works really well like OSU last year where they legitimately had 1-2 guys running wide open every play. Other times you get ND this year where they tried to scheme around issues but nothing really was a dead on hit with enough consistency to produce scores.

So in all of that, what I'm saying is that the coaching staff hasn't put themselves in situations to be successful enough IMO throughout the last 3 years. They have games where they look like the best staff in college football and then they have games where the idea of running a FB dive for 2 yards is out of the question for some reason. Toeing the line of leaning on Ben Mason for 2 yards but not going full goal line too often is where I get annoyed with things. 

10/02/2018 - 3:57pm  Onwenu has been their best…

 Onwenu has been their best pass-blocker and has yet to allow a sack, hit or hurry this season.

I guess they attributed some of the free runners up the gut to Ruiz instead of Onwenu. 

their running backs see an average of just 2.4 yards before contact per carry.


OSU and MSU has some guys on defense that will be a step up from everyone seen post ND up to Gaziano.

10/02/2018 - 1:56pm Oooo that's a tough one.

Oooo that's a tough one.

Which QB throws the least badly?

10/02/2018 - 1:40pm What the hell was I doing…

What the hell was I doing/looking at/smoking?

10/02/2018 - 10:45am Maryland: 8 - They don't…

Maryland: 8 - They don't have 1/2 of their 2 headed RB duo. OL has had some injuries as well but look to be getting back to it. Their offense in general is not really built to beat Michigan. They try to spread it out but Michigan has adapted to that and capable of stopping it because they can't threaten the pass consistently nor run downhill enough. Their defense might be slightly better than normal but still not battering proof.

Wisconsin: 7 - Home so I give it an extra point. Not built to blow out good/athletic teams. They don't have their best WR anymore and their defense had to replace so much that they're still behind in the process. My biggest concern is the DTs holding up and the OL keeping Patterson's head attached to his body. In any event, the game will come down to 3-10 points.

MSU: 4 - Away so I take a point off. Their defense is not going to let Higdon get going and at this point I still don't know if Michigan has the plays to make their secondary pay or if Michigan is going to just bang their head against a wall for 3 1/2 quarters. Offensively their OL isn't good and they can't run, but they have 2-3 good WRs and the secondary has not been great this year. Plus, they'll pull some voodoo shit like always.

PSU: 4 - Home so I give Michigan an extra point at the end of a terrible 3 game stretch. Offense is going to put up points. They're the opposite of Wisconsin and can go off at any point and blow people out. Their defense isn't good though but again, can Michigan make them pay or are they going to go with 2 TEs and slow roll the whole thing?

Rutgers: 10 - Cumong

Indiana: 8 - I honestly don't think DeBord and Co. are CHAOS team anymore.

OSU: 3 - They aren't as lethal on the ground and aren't guaranteed to bludgeon teams to convert 3 and less than 5 consistently. However, they have the athletes on the outside and a QB who can actually use them now which is something we haven't seen since... 2014 or 2015? Defensively they aren't as solid but their DL is still >>>>> Michigan's OL.

At any rate, Michigan can't fall behind any of the teams left on the schedule like they did ND or NW (sans Rutgers and Illinois). Anything more than a 10 point deficit won't be made up consistently.

10/01/2018 - 4:17pm Mind you, I haven't been…

Mind you, I haven't been able to re-watch the entire game (usually there is an upload by now?) and UFR might have more to say on this, but of the -1 to 1 yard runs by Higdon, I counted about 2 that he just ran into an OL when he probably could have gotten to a different gap. But in any event, even getting to that other gap probably would have only gotten him another 2 yards IF he could have somehow scraped over to it faster than the NW guys coming down at him.

The problems he and the OL have, as I mentioned, are that Onwenu is not quick enough to get out ahead of him on anything other than counters or front side pulling plays because he goes 1000 mph the second he gets the ball (which is significantly better than the alternative). There were also a few plays where the OL was pulling into the lane and hit a guy immediately either resulting in him stopping right in front of Higdon or not really giving him anywhere to go as the hole wasn't big enough for 2 defenders and Higdon at the same time.

10/01/2018 - 2:46pm He has literally made 3…

He has literally made 3 yards out of nothing more times than I can count. He doesn't always hit the right hole, but dear god the guy has taken hits in the backfield that should have resulted in 2 yard losses and somehow popped up 2-3 yards downfield. Also, running into the backs of his pulling OL is sometimes annoying. So is trying to pull a 350 lb OG when he can't get out ahead of the RB to help him out or having his OC miss the LB and the guy cuts him down in the backfield (like Ruiz against Wisconsin last year).

The only pitch play that has worked in all of Harbaugh's time here was last year against OSU wherein Higdon broke 3 tackles before gaining 2 yards and got down the sideline for 9.

LAST WEEK against Nebraska. The first big run, the OL got him a hole with a safety in it. That safety didn't touch him.

Also, saying he doesn't do well with zone running plays (while sometimes true) is funny because the OL doesn't do well with zone running plays. They leave guys left and right resulting in Higdon having to break tackles before he can even get to the right hole.

Not, I'm not downvoting you or saying you're entirely wrong. I just don't think you're entirely right.

10/01/2018 - 2:36pm General consternation with…

General consternation with the defense vis a vis scheme against slants as it was a huuugggeeee annoyance to me back at the tail end of the Hoke days where Mattison would set his CBs at 7 yards off the LOS with outside leverage and get slanted to death.

When you're running zone coverages and dropping LBs into throwing lanes, I get not requiring your CBs to take away the slants because you have someone ready to step in and tip/INT the ball.

Brown doesn't run a lot of zone and sends blitzing LBs all the time, leaving gaps in the field behind them. I'm ok with this because the general benefit outweighs the costs more often than not when the LB/DL can get to the QB. When that doesn't happen (OSU, Wisconsin, maybe MSU/PSU if their OLs hold up) you leave a lot of space to get picked apart. OSU last year was a case of their WRs running drags and crossers with Hill and Metellus trailing. Haskins won OSU the game by throwing 3 yard passes.

Going man against teams that run slants and crossers without those LBs standing in the way creates easy throws if your DBs are maintaining outside leverage. You'd rather the QB have to throw a slot fade ~30 yards and drop it into a bucket than a slant where the ball travels ~10 yards IMO.

So, if the process is Team A is running a bunch of slants, it's not a "jump the slant" type deal (which can result in slant and goes) so much as it is a maintain inside leverage and force the fades or throws that require the ball to travel 2-3X longer a distance. Wimbush hit those passes but 2 of them were literally perfect throws that I can't imagine had a higher success rate than a drag or slant. It sucks, but I can live with perfect throws beating a defense, not 10 slants. This idea of halftime adjustments ignores that adjustments need to be made on a drive by drive basis. If you don't make those in time, you get down 2 scores and won't come back against better defenses or teams with offenses that don't go completely stagnant.

09/27/2018 - 9:33pm Kid likes to hit.


Kid likes to hit.

Nothing wrong with that.

09/26/2018 - 7:25pm Because you don't always…

Because you don't always know you have a decent back up until you see them in games getting live reps.

See JOK last year.

09/26/2018 - 10:56am Yeah, agree with you there.

Yeah, agree with you there.

09/26/2018 - 10:52am Yeah, the depth part of it…

Yeah, the depth part of it is the bigger concern for them. Similar to the Nebraska situation. If Lawrence goes down they got to a former 3 star I've never heard of and the whole thing probably goes off the rails.

With that DL though, they don't need a monster offense.

09/26/2018 - 10:50am They expected him to still…

They expected him to still play, but in a supplementary role/clearly behind Lawrence.

He's basically becoming the Nick Sheridan to Lawrence's Threet (completely ignore the actual ability difference in that analogy) in that Sheridan came in when Threet was terrible/hurt but it was always Threet who was going to be the starter.

Or, think of it as the Brady v Henson situation where Henson actually supplanted Brady instead of Brady holding Henson off.

09/26/2018 - 10:13am This is a big blow to…

This is a big blow to Clemson as Bryant probably would have played moving forward in the same split-time system

They named Lawrence the starter a couple of days ago. They're no longer going with the split time, 2 QB system anymore.