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07/13/2018 - 4:50pm And for what reason, I…

And for what reason, I cannot even come close to remembering.

He had a report with Peters since both were back ups and getting snaps together? That's the only thing I could come up with because he basically was out there in meaningless snaps to run some curls.

DPJ can run a curl. If he's tired, Schonele can run a curl. So can Crawford (he might have dropped it).

Made 0 sense to me.

07/06/2018 - 3:13pm For Hudson, the reason why…

For Hudson, the reason why Peppers went early was because he was a great athlete (so is Hudson) but could also return kicks on top of being projected to play as a true safety. I don't know if Hudson is seen that way. And while there are hybrid LB/SS guys in the NFL now, they're bigger than Hudson, which was the knock on Peppers coming out as a tweener without great size.

I think 1/2 of Hill/Long leave. That might be selfishly motivated, but they don't get the ball thrown at them a lot so they don't get a chance to show out. I think they're both crazy good, but maintaining Long's low passer rating at a higher volume would really show he isn't just a guy people have avoided throwing at.

Bush, it depends on how athletic his numbers really are. Small, inside LBs still aren't aplenty in the NFL. He could switch to OLB and handle the flats/blitz, but in his current position he doesn't have to cover a ton (that we've seen).

07/06/2018 - 3:06pm Sure, Bredeson should get…

Sure, Bredeson should get better if not just because of the simplicity of Warriner's coaching. He was pretty bad in pass protection last year (outside of Cole, who wasn't?) and took some weird pulling angles that turfed some of Higdon/Evans' runs, so that is a huge step he has to take.

I mean, Gentry blocks better than Gesicki because Gesicki had zero interest in even trying to block and got rag-dolled by LBs. I still wouldn't say Gentry is good at blocking. I think he was in the 4.7 range coming out of HS and at the Michigan "Spring Combine" which was unofficial and probably had a few tenths knocked off. But more to the point, splitting time with McKeon might turf an otherwise potentially good statistical year when it comes to TDs and receptions. He'll have a high YPR number again, but I don't know if that will be enough to make it worth leaving early for.

Higdon should have an even better year just because there is a threat of a passing game. Seeing JOK behind center and an OL that couldn't block all that well allowed teams to stack the box with everyone and their mother. He was over 5 YPC when everyone knew he was getting the ball. I'm looking forward to seeing him not have to break tackles at 2 yards every run this season.

07/06/2018 - 2:23pm I would think Michigan loses…

I would think Michigan loses 2/4 of Bush, Hudson, Hill, and Long.

Projecting Bredeson is a little much at this point IMO. Even with a better OL coach, he has a lot of work to do in order to go early. OGs don't get drafted as high as OTs so unless he's a top 3 round OG, I doubt he'd leave. And based on what we've seen, he's not a top 3 round OG right now or using a relatively reasonable trend in development.

Gentry is a really big match up problem and the NFL might go after him early similar to Gesicki, but Gesicki had better combine numbers than Gentry will probably put up (4.5 40 at Gesicki's size is just stupid) and a lot more production (he had a competent QB throwing him jump balls).

07/05/2018 - 4:52pm Back up plan.


Back up plan.

Alabama offers 5* John Smith, but he is also looking at OSU and Michigan.

So Alabama offers low 4* Brian Doe.

If Smith signs with Alabama, Doe's commitment isn't accepted by Alabama and he has to go elsewhere.

Basically it's a "here's an offer just in case we need you way down the line" type of thing.

07/05/2018 - 4:45pm So you're calling that…

So you're calling that Michigan pulls in two 5* guys and 4 high 4* guys including flipping 1 (even if it is from Purdue)? That would equal the number of 5* that Michigan has got since Harbaugh arrived, in 1 class.

That's... That's ballsy. I can't see Michigan getting even 3 of those guys.

Crouch will most likely stay close to home.

Hill will probably do the same as he's deciding soon.

Ford as well.

Cine is a possibility but with PSU winning on the recruiting trail I'm even less optimistic.

Karlaftis would require a decommitment, though Brohm's departure seems certain in the next couple of years.

Keegan seems like the only safe bet. And by that I mean better than a 50/50 shot.

If Harbaugh and Co pull even 3 of those guys, it will be one of the best closings I've ever seen.

07/05/2018 - 4:36pm And before the OL decided to…

And before the OL decided to not block guys in front of their face.

07/05/2018 - 2:58pm Some guys will get bumps I…

Some guys will get bumps I presume.

Turner was one of the top 20 guys at the opening last week based on the tweet that showed high scores. He was a 4 star at one point IIRC. Quinten Johnson is another guy that tests extremely well and might move up some. The OL guys like Stewart and Barnhart have gotten bumps, but let's see if they get scouted more and get bumped again. Or, just get Rivals/ESPN to get their heads out of their butts and do more work than a sophomore eval on guys.

George Johnson hasn't tested as well and while the scouting might pick up on him, not sure how much he'll move. Both RBs could be higher in the overall IMO.

07/05/2018 - 2:04pm Ditto.

Though I've been…


Though I've been looking at sectionals so I almost immediately ignored the ad and thought "NOT GOOD ENOUGH!"

07/03/2018 - 9:10pm USC in football.

USC in football.

07/03/2018 - 7:37pm Scrubs was an awesome show…

Scrubs was an awesome show and I don't care if that makes me sound like a 17 year old.

06/28/2018 - 11:32am Good point.

Most of the top…

Good point.

Most of the top guys in the class will most likely stay where they are, give or take 50 spots.

Some of the bottom guys might get a bump like Turner (who was a composite 4* at one point) and maybe Velazquez who basically is just a number thrown on for ratings purposes.

Nonetheless, no one is going to get a big enough bump to put Michigan into the top 5 again as is (IMO). Signing Karlaftis and another top 100 guy could get it there with the coming bumps though.

06/27/2018 - 6:15pm Seconded. Real job/adult…

Seconded. Real job/adult life is... Less than ideal.

06/27/2018 - 12:29pm Not trying to count the…

Not trying to count the chickens before they hatch, but given the current class and some of the ones listed (Johnson, Keegan, Gray, Ojabo, and DiCosmo) as committing, that would be a top 10-15 class based on 247's calculator and past year's numbers (2015-2017).

That's assuming no one decommits though, but being rather conservative on the expected guys to sign. Herron still might leave and DiCosmo is still a question, but I included them instead of taking a big leap to Cine or Karlaftis.

Overall, certainly not a bad class by any means. A good 2018 season could get 1 or 2 of the big name guys and then it could end up inside the top 10.

06/26/2018 - 5:09pm It'll turn into a "will they…

It'll turn into a "will they stay committed" type fall. Which.... yay? Just have to hold it together with some good wins.

I've been looking at the class (and admittedly I haven't really looked into departures for next year) but I can't tell how many more spots are available.

1 for a QB?

1 for another RB?

1 for Quinten Johnson at Safety.

1 for another Safety if possible (Cine if he doesn't go to PSU)

1 for and OT (hopefully Keegan - if not Harrod)

1 for a WR (Ford - if not then anyone at all?)

1 for another DT (Uhhh... No idea. Johnson seemed like the one the staff wanted)

That would put it at 23 with no decommits. Herron seems like the only true flight risk at the moment unless someone get "processed" out. Everyone else seems set on Michigan (Hinton will have Georgia after him until his LOI is sent in).

06/26/2018 - 12:04pm Need gas? Stop before Gary…

Need gas? Stop before Gary or after, never in it.

06/26/2018 - 11:33am South Bend is such a dump.

South Bend is such a dump.

Outside of ND (which is very nice) the city itself is basically another forgotten Midwestern town.

06/25/2018 - 9:47am The jump cuts remind me of…

The jump cuts remind me of Hart.

Except Charbonnet is bigger and faster. Hope that pans out.

06/21/2018 - 4:06pm Literally?

From 2012 who…


From 2012 who became starters:

Kalis - Underwhelmed at any rate

Bolden - Was a stop gap until Harbaugh recruits weren't true freshman fall enrolees

Magnuson - Was actually good

Ross - Same with the Bolden assessment

Wormley - Very good


Thomas - Good

Lewis - One of the All-Time Greats

Taco - Great as a senior

Kugler was a starter as a 5th year senior because there were 0 LTs available. He was a fall back option.

That's 8/20 and a pitty 9/20 for Kugler.

06/20/2018 - 4:58pm I know what he ran as a…

I know what he ran as a college senior at the combine. I'm comparing his high school times since there's no point to compare a 22 year old to a 15 year old.

Point being, he isn't stupid fast, but he's comparable to what Chesson was in high school which sets him up well down the line.

06/20/2018 - 11:31am That's fine. Low 4.5s as a…

That's fine. Low 4.5s as a high school freshman (I had said sophomore earlier incorrectly) is not "slow" by my standards.

He might not have the 100m burst but long speed he's looking pretty good. Right around 0:50.5 in the 400m isn't bad either (right around 15th or 16th in the state of Michigan).

For comparison, Chesson (who was much taller) ran something like a 0:10.7 100M in high school and a 0:21.86 200M as a senior.

06/20/2018 - 10:46am Don't really know what a…

Don't really know what a good 200m time is anymore, so I looked up the MHSAA 2018 finals and his times would make him top 10 in the state at that distance... As a sophomore.

So yeah, maybe not a Trindon Holliday level burner, but certainly fast enough.

06/18/2018 - 1:48pm Definitely on board with…

Definitely on board with this.

06/15/2018 - 11:01am Quoting a few MSU fans on…

Quoting a few MSU fans on Twitter/Facebook/people I know:

"We're already writing a check for $500 million. Time to move on."

Uhhh... that's exactly how to NOT fix systemic issues that may or may not be embedded culturally at the University. Just writing a check when it happens from time to time is not how you stop sexual assault you dolts.

06/15/2018 - 9:14am To be fair, Mayfield was not…

To be fair, Mayfield was not a traditional "walk-on." He was a 3 star QB from a powerhouse high school program that didn't get the offers he wanted (his attitude and father made most programs turn and run) so he went to TT and then immediately transferred.

He's nothing like a walk-on who only had offers from DII or Ivies so they walk on at big programs instead.

06/04/2018 - 10:39am I've gone into the OL

I've gone into the OL recruiting discussion too many times on Reddit with morons who refuse to acknowledge context (1 MSU fan in particular). And while I'll defend Harbaugh on the 2015, 2016, and even 2017 OL issues, at this point his time has ran out in regards to the OL not being above average. You could say it was a Drevno issue or a Drevno/Frey duality issue, but in the end Harbaugh hired Drevno and they had success at Stanford and SF under a similar coaching structure. So did Drevno all of a sudden forget how to coach OLs? Or was it because he had OC duties that took away his focus and he was too high level with a young OL? If it's the latter, then Harbaugh should have managed the situation better.

Now they're behind the 8 ball with having to start anew with Warriner and hope the youth can get going fast. Plus, I also still can't fathom why Ulizio was ran out against Florida last year. That is 100% on the coaches. 

SCAR was just... stupid. I can't put it any other way. Running token Read Option stuff with Peters (who was never going to actually pull the ball) was idiotic. Those plays went for like 1 YPC if they were lucky, but it was ran way too often. Much like the Pep-Cat stuff in the Iowa game in 2016.

Also, the final drive was horrible. 3rd and 1 around the 45 with about a minute to go. Instead of Michigan running the ball to get a first down to get a fresh set of downs they pass. Peters takes a sack, and now it's 4th and 11. They run an out that the CB is sitting on and it gets picked off. That's terrible management and play calling. Drevno is calling those plays, fine. Harbaugh should step in and say fuck no, we're done with that crap.

I get the argument about the defense and like I said, it's small potatoes in the grand scheme of things and just something for me to complain about. But, when you're riding a razon thin line between winning and losing (due to the offense sucking) you can't get caught on 3 reverses/throw back screens in 1 game without adjusting to it. Purdue was leading because of those (though Brown adjusted and they stopped working). MSU won because of their misdirection screen. And Wisconsin picked on Kinnel, Metellus, and JKP to get their go-ahead TD. Even if the offense is better in 2018, there will be games that require the defense to not make any big mistakes. Those screens didn't come late in games, they came in the first half. Have that happen against OSU or Wisconsin even when the offense can put up points and it can still lead to a loss.

Like I said, I'm confident in the offense being better in 2018. How much better I'm not sure. And while we can definitely point to youth and inexperience resulting in losses last year, there were plenty of coaching mistakes that shouldn't be ignored. Even Saban makes mistakes like Michigan did last year, but their talent can cover it up. I hope the talent at Michigan can do the same.

06/04/2018 - 9:45am OL - Not having a capable OT

OL - Not having a capable OT to replace Newsome is now a Harbaugh problem. I gave him a reprieve on that in 2016 because Hoke couldn't recruit the OL to save his life. The 2013 OL class that should have set Michigan up through 2017 was a complete and utter failure, which was Hoke's problem. And not getting multiple OTs in 2015 wasn't Harbaugh's fault since he came in with 1 month to go before NSD. However, the 2016 class needed to have a sure fire OT in it to mitigate any future OT problems. Bredeson has never taken a snap at OT and never will.

I get why Harbaugh recuited like he did in 2016. Michigan needed to get talent at the skill positions because that's where Hoke lacked any success (outside of OL). But in doing so, Harbaugh didn't address what has become the biggest problem. So while 2016 and 2017 were a Hoke problem (to fix 2017 Harbaugh would have needed, at best, a true sophomore/RS freshman starting at LT) 2018 OTs are now a Harbaugh problem. Relying on a RS freshman (Hudson) to win the LT spot is a Harbaugh problem. If it works out, great! He fixed it. If it doesn't, he didn't recruit properly to address it. (Also, just start Runyan at RT for god's sake).

QB - Again, Harbaugh was screwed when he came in. Scholarship QBs were Morris and Speight. That's terrible. He made Rudock into an NFL draft pick and grabbing JOK as a possible future competition guy I'm fne with. Getting Speight to 3rd team All-Big Ten was also impressive. 2017 I wanted Harbaugh to go with Peters earlier after we saw JOK suuuuuuccckkkk, but there really wasn't a good time to do so until the Rutgers game (maybe Indiana in the second half when they had the lead and were content with just running the ball). I don't have a problem with him grabbing Patterson either as a stop gap, but after this year if McCaffrey/Peters/Milton don't show up, then I'll be annoyed by the lack of QB progression.

Play calling - I had a hard time with last year. There was a clear lack on continuity, but that could be due to the Frey/Drevno thing, the lack of a RT (plus young interior) and bad QB play. However, going from the OSU game to the SCAR game made it clear that it wasn't just a personnel issue. The game plan against OSU was great. Inspiring even. The game plan against SCAR (even though it resulted in a big enough lead that it should have been a W) was terrible. Shotgun HB dives? Long developing routes?Incorrect personnel leading to a fumble? It was like Michigan took everything that worked against OSU and said never mind, we want to do it the hard way for fuck all reasons.

Defense - Hard to complain about this since it's the strength of the team and is doing very well, but I still get annoyed with the whole safety slot fade issue. Much like the screen issue in 2016, it always worked and it was either never completely addressed by Brown, or it took too long to adjust to it. You have Hill, Long, and Watson. Why on earth are you leaving Metellus or Kinnel on slot WRs who beat them every time (even if it did take some Tom Brady throws to beat them)? Brown has ran nickle packages with 3 CBs in the past (Lewis, Stribling, Clark) but for some reason he refused to last year in large part.That and the whole "best way to solve a problem is with aggression" thing works most of the time. However, you know teams are going to run the throw back screens on you (Purdue and MSU) but it takes at least 2 or 3 successful plays before Michigan adjusted for it. I know I know, small issues, but when your offense can only muster 14 points, giving up 2 or 3 big plays on defense is all it takes to lose the game (see the Wisconsin game specifically).

I have confidence that the team will be much more successful this upcoming season just due to a dedicated WRs coach, the elimination of Drevno, and added experience. But if the offense looks lost again and there is no clear development among the interior OL especially, I'll start to lose it.

06/04/2018 - 9:23am I wouldn't go that far.

I wouldn't go that far.

Gary is a junior, 2 year starter former #1 recruit.

Hinton is going to be really, really good, but he'll be a freshman. Those things aren't equal.

Winovich might not be the pure talent that someone like Vilain is, but he's departing senior while his replacement will be someone who got 20% of the snaps this year. That's also a drop off.

DBs will be fine assuming only 1 of Hill or Long leave. If both depart early then it's just Thomas and... someone to be figured out later. But regardless, that TBD is not going to be All-Big Ten level right away. Especially because all of the 2018 recruits are middling 3 stars with the exception of Sims. Though stars aren't the end all be all - but it's harder to project someone like Sims (or Green) being Hill level quality as a sophomore.

LBs will be fine with Singleton, Anthony, Ross, and McGrone.

DTs will be equally good if not better because they'll be returning starters (Solomon and Dwumfor).

Safeties... eh? Losing Kinnel and replacing him with Woods or JKP would probably be about equal.

So maybe equally talented overall, but not equally proven.

05/27/2018 - 11:35pm I forgot safeties:
2016 >

I forgot safeties:

2016 > 2018. Hill was a great hybrid SS who could cover and stop the run. He was a very good athlete. Thomas was fast and could erase other's mistakes, though he wasn't great in coverage.

Kinnel busts too often, isn't as fast as Thomas or Hill, and is smaller. Metellus isn't as physically gifted as either as well.

05/27/2018 - 10:53pm That's completely fine. I'd

That's completely fine. I'd take Butt, Chesson, and Darboh right now as well. Beacuse they had proven production. But again, talent wise I think DPJ (who set a Sparq record as a junior) Black (who looked good as a true freshman starting over the freak athlete), Collins (he's 6'6” for crying out loud), and Martin (this is more projection than anything, but he has hands and is a great athlete in his own right) are more talented.

2 years from now I would expect the 2018 guys to end up better than the 2016 guys.

05/27/2018 - 10:46pm That's the problem with

That's the problem with saying proven "talent." Talent is 6'4" running a 4.4 40 with a 38 inch vertical and ball skills. DPJ and Black have that. Possibly Collins as well (not the speed). Chesson and Darboh had less talent, but both were upperclassmen with refined skills. Chesson had speed but lacked the ball skills (he caught everything with his chest and dropped a lot of balls). Darboh had the ball skills and was very athletic, but I think DPJ has more god given talent. I sometimes waiver back and forth because I don't stick to the definitions of those things anyways.

05/27/2018 - 10:32pm Position by position? Hard to

Position by position? Hard to separate talent from proven ability because we have to project quite a bit. Plus, 1 is subjective and the other we can look at stats for back up.

2016 DT > 2018 - Glasgow and Hurst are better than Dumfor and Solomon. 2016 depth was better.

2016 DEs ~ 2018 DEs - Taco was a 1st round pick and had 10 sacks in basically 10 games. Gary has more talent but Taco was no slouch. Winovich and Wormley are different players, but equally talented? Wormley was physically just bigger and therefore had more "talent" but Winovich has ridiculous stats from last year. Thing is 2016 had more depth because of Winovich and Gary.

2018 LBs > 2016 LBs - Gedeon was very solid, but Bush is better. Whoever replaces McCray will be equally or more talented, just less experienced. Peppers and Hudson are close enough to not overcome the difference between Gedeon and Bush. Though Peppers busted less than Hudson IMO.

2016 CBs > 2018 CBs - I mean, Jourdan Lewis was probably the best CB Michigan has had since Woodson (maybe Hall or Jackson). Hill is very good and so is Long, but neither are Lewis level and Stribling is about equal to Long. 2018 depth is better because Clark went down and we know Watson is a lot better now than he was then. Plus, Thomas looks to break out.

2018 WRs > 2016 WRs in that DPJ and Black have the potential to be better, but Chesson and Darboh were proven. Depth wise 2018 is better.

2016 TEs > 2018 TEs. Butt was Butt. The depth behind him wasn't great though. 2018 has McKeon and Gentry, but neither are Butt level good, yet.

2016 OL > 2018 OL. This will probably be hotly contested, Magnuson was better than any RT we've seen. Newsome (going off beginning of the year) was better than anything now. 2016 interior was less bust prone (though they busted a lot) but Cole was a proven C while Ruiz might have the overall talent.

2018 RBs > 2016 RBs. Pretty sure this is obvious. Smith could pass block, that's about all he did better than Higdon or Evans.

2018 QBs > 2016. Speight did well but was limited. JOK was his back up. That should be enough.

05/22/2018 - 9:22am We've seen Harbaugh do it

We've seen Harbaugh do it before. Smith and Kaep were very different QBs with different strengths. When Kaep came in they ran a lot more zone read and had simple throws for him to just rear back and let it rip.

With Smith it was a lot of short routes with reads and the occasional go route on the outside.

I don't think Harbaugh and Co. will try to fit a square peg into a round hole. They tried to give JOK opportunities to make plays given his skill set (he wasn't capable though) like going out of the shotgun and making quick throws, and I would think they do some of that again.

05/16/2018 - 9:45am Slot CBs?
I find it rare to

Slot CBs?

I find it rare to see 6'2"+ guys being able to drop inside and play the slot. Neither Stribling nor Clark ever did IIRC. That's what made Lewis so good. Boundary CB? No problem. Slot CB? Sure, why not.

So Sims and the other guys play outside, Turner or Couch take the slot (and outside if they can play both spots).

05/14/2018 - 11:50am WDE isn't a super high

WDE isn't a super high position of need, but they have guys in behind Herron like Newburg and are still chasing others IIRC.

Should be ok if he does flip. Obviously he's rated higher than the others, but there are bodies to fill in unlike the Hamilton thing where losing him was basically losing the only OT they had since Bredeson moved inside.

05/11/2018 - 11:14am I don't really blame him for

I don't really blame him for that TD on that specific play. IIRC McCray was also running towards JTB as he scrambled and then turned and ran away from him/stopped running after him even though he wasn't covering anyone in particular.

What looked bad was 20+ yards after JTB passed the LOS, Metellus was still facing the wrong way, 5 yards in the endzone. Not that he should have stopped JTB all on his own, but it just looked like he was unaware of what was going on. Couple that will some of the poor effort he had in the Indiana game (3rd and 4, had the WR stopped on the sideline and didn't even try to tackle him) and I just get a less than great feeling about him. The JTB TD looked like once he noticed JTB was headed for the endzone he didn't even try to stop him.

05/10/2018 - 3:02pm Yeah, I don't think JBB was a

Yeah, I don't think JBB was a dumpsterfire at RT like he was made out to be often. Was he good? No. Was he horrible and a turnstile like Ulizio? Also no. A lot of the recent comments about the confusing coaching and everything makes it seems even more apparent that on the biffs JBB had, it wasn't always him just missing. A lot of the time the calls and everything were messing things up.

And I'm pretty sure the 2 really bad JOK caused sacks I remember were late when Runyan was in. I'd have to look again (I don't want to) to confirm that, but I don't think he was a turnstile either. Again, not good, not an abomination.

05/10/2018 - 2:55pm I think it's the combination

I think it's the combination of things. That dropped INT, the missed tackles in the open field, including the really bad one on the long Weber(?) run made his entire game look really bad.

You're right, they could have gone 3 and out immediately following, but that would have been better than the JTB scramble that followed for the TD in which (IIRC) Metellus was on that side of the field and never turned arounf to see JTB ran from 20+ yards out. 3 and out + a punt and the unkown result is better than a known TD.

The optics just looked bad.

05/10/2018 - 2:23pm OSU had arguably the best

OSU had arguably the best pass rush in college football last year and they only got 5 sacks against a very bad OL. Of those 5 sacks, 3 of them were JOK's fault. 2 of them I remember specifically, he rolled out of the pocket after about 3 seconds and got about 3 yards from the sideline. Instead of throwing the ball away, 5 seconds after the snap, he held onto it and took the sack for no reason.

The weird thing is though, that the OL performed relatively well in that game, but have complete clunkers in other games. So youth and confusion could play a role, but saying because they did well against OSU shows they can do well this year is equally unclear as saying because they did poorly against Wisconsin means they'll do poorly this year.

05/08/2018 - 10:59am That's fair.
I obviously

That's fair.

I obviously wouldn't say that the passing game woes were completely on the OL. We saw how bad JOK was when he had time to throw so we know it isn't all the OL.

I seriously think the Wisconsin game messed with Peters. His chest was caved in multiple times that game, it was just the last one that finally knocked him out. I think it was the opening drive of the second half in the bowl game that Michigan just marched right down the field and Peters had some pretty good throws. He got into a rythym. But if that rythym was missing, he started staring at the rush and bailing for fear of dying. Should he have? No. But I could understand it a little bit.

05/07/2018 - 4:42pm The bowl game was...

The bowl game was... confusing. But in the game before that, arguably the best pass rush in college football (OSU) got 5 sacks on JOK and at least 3 of them were 5 seconds after the snap after JOK rolled out of the pocket and could have tossed the ball out of bounds, but instead took the sack for fuck all reasons. 3 of them came in the second half as well.

We have a reason to be down onthe OL, but if the interior improves to pick up 1/2 the twists they missed last year, and JBB/Runyan last year is the floor for RT this year (which honestly, wasn't a complete clusterfuck as the year went on) then they need a serviceable LT and things might not be terrible. I say might with the most emphasis you can imagine.

05/04/2018 - 2:31pm When Drevno came in he did so

When Drevno came in he did so with Fisch and inherited an OL of (from left to right):

Cole - Sophomore returning Starter

Braden - Junior returning starter

Glasgow - Senior returning starter

Kalis - Junior returning starter

Magnuson - Junior returning starter.

Not sure if this holds water, but that's a lot of experience (even if it was bad experience) so maybe those guys could grasp the concepts that Drevno was teaching (while not being the OC since Fisch was there).

The following year everyone was a year older and more experienced. Last year it was (from left to right) a 4 year starter senior, sophomore, 5th year senior who never played, sophomore, and rotation of guys who never played. Maybe the youth on that line needed more basic coaching than what the OL/OC coach could provide while sharing with a different OL coach.

Different people learn different ways?

05/03/2018 - 3:42pm "He was third string behind

"He was third string behind JBB and Ulizio. Let that sink in."

Watch the games he played in and watch the games Ulizio played in. Runyan came in late for JBB against OSU and against the best pass rush in the country, didn't do any worse than JBB did. Against SCAR I don't remember Runyan being the cause of the OL pass protection issues.

On the other hand, Michigan would have been better off without Ulizio on the field and going with 4 OL. Obviously hyperbolic, but at least that way they would have known the DE was coming free rather than thinking their RT might slow him down 1/2 a step. He was terrible. There was no obvious reason as to why he was playing meaningful snaps while Runyan looked better in the Spring Game and in place of JBB.

"You have to have really strong legs to overcome that mass difference, and I just have not seen it from Runyan."

Runyan has tested as the strongest and most athletic OL on the team (at last year's Spring Combine). He might have been surpassed by Ruiz or something this year, but he was considered the best athlete of the bunch going into 2017.

And again, more to the point, it has now been 2 offseasons that Runyan has been "leading" for the RT position. Yet for some unexplainable reason, he didn't see a lot of time last year (except in place of JBB in which he did... the same? or in the spring game wherein he didn't look nearly as bad as Ulizio did at his best) and people are looking to replace him now without seeing him actually get a good run at the spot.

Basically, going into the fall, Runyan was the #1 RT and Ulizio's name had never came up. First snap of the Florida game and Ulizio is the starter and looks terrible. If he jumped from #3 RT to #1 RT and that's how he looked, then Runyan (who again, looked at least servicable in the Spring Game according to this site) and JBB must have literally not known what "on one" meant and false started ever snap.

05/03/2018 - 1:02pm Well that was horribly

Well that was horribly wrong.

Though in 2013 they had an All-American LT, an NFL starter at C, Schofield wasn't terrible at RT, and Magnuson was playing LG I think. Including Kalis, that's 5 guys who ended up on NFL rosters 1 way or another.

Problem wasn't talent there, that was 100% coaching.

05/03/2018 - 12:09pm I mean, yes and no. Higdon is

I mean, yes and no. Higdon is not Anthony Thomas obviously. But, a ton of his yardage last year came after contact and he in particular turned 2 yard losses into 2 yard gains against MSU speciifcally. Cincy (I think) had 2 guys get through untouched to him for a 1 yard loss on 4th and 1, but he somehow got the 1st down. The OL biffed so many times that he had to make slightly less nothing out of absolutely nothing. Elliott is on a completely different level for obvious reasons, but you put LJ Scott behind some of that blocking last year and he's not going anywhere either.

Evans doesn't break tackles, he's not really an in-between the OTs runner so I don't expect him to make those plays. Higdon does what he can.

Pass protection, yeah not great.

05/03/2018 - 11:44am Bredeson at OT hasn't been a

Bredeson at OT hasn't been a thing since the Newsome competition. Maybe not throwing him out there after the injury made sense because Braden could do it and Bredeson was a freshman, but he hasn't been an OT possibility since the fall of 2016 for some reason.

Though I have a similar issue with the Runyan talk as well. He's the leading RT going into the season last year, then they throw out Ulizio (who wasn't even talked about until the last second) who gets obliterated by everyone he faces. Because Runyan isn't "tackle sized?" That's a ridiculous reason. Same thing this year. Runyan is currently the RT but might not be come the fall because he's not "tackle sized." Shit, if he's the best RT, I don't care if he's 5'11" (hyperbolic).

If I could get a legitimate, non-coach speak answer for 2 questions from the coaching staff, they'd probably be the Bredeson and Runyan thing specifically.

05/03/2018 - 11:40am I mean, if Winovich isn't

I mean, if Winovich isn't getting free runs at the QBs anymore that's improvement. But, like, why the hell was that a problem in the first place?!

4 man rushes were killing the OL and caved Peters' chest in against Wisconsin in particular. You've got 5 OL to block 4 guys and no one picks up the 3-4 OLB because... reasons?

05/03/2018 - 11:29am It's my understanding that DO

It's my understanding that DO programs get lower rankings in general than MD programs no matter what. Upon a quick look, US News doesn't give MSU's DO program an official ranking.

DO schools are significantly outnumbered and seem to be the redheaded stepchild of the Medical professions for reasons I am not completey aware of.

Point being, if there was a comprehensive listing of both MD and DO programs together, I'd look at that. But without seeing such a listing I can't really compare the 2.

05/03/2018 - 9:39am MSU"s DO program is one of

MSU"s DO program is one of the best in the country. It's unfortunate that the Dean and one of its most prominent employees fucked up its reputation.

Their MD program isn't anything special

05/02/2018 - 5:50pm The pitching staff is top 4

The pitching staff is top 4 in ERA.

The 3 teams above them in ERA are all postseason teams.

Hitting isn't on fire or anything, but they're 19th there.

There are 5 teams with better batting averages who they might see in the postseason.

Obviously these stats aren't adjusted for their opponents (and the Big Ten generally isn't good at softball) and I haven't followed the season all that closely, but they don't appear to be doomed in the early postseason.