Interesting choice.
FWIW; seems like this is a hire to replace former QC analyst, Joe Philbin (former Miami Dolphins HC), who was hired away by the LV Raiders recently.
Philbin was brought in by Brian Hartline last year to assist with OL coaching, and someone that Hartline trusted from their shared time in Miami. Drevno will likely take over that role and assist with OL coaching.
An ironic hire for sure, but ultimately probably a small overall impact in recruiting. Just another experience coach to help with film breakdown and etc.
"Big-time recruiter"?
I don't remember this factoid.
EDIT:
Here's his 247 profile
https://247sports.com/Coach/tim-drevno-2202/AllTimeRecruits/
His most notable recruits were all Michigan guys (Ben Bredesen, Cesar Ruiz, Mike Onwenu), he's basically just brought in 3 stars since leaving... I'm not sure "big-time recruiter" is the phrase I'd use. But as a QC analyst at Ohio, I'm not sure that's how they're planning on using him anyways.
especially because the most a QC coach can do recruiting wise is "be present when they're on campus". the end
Unless you just self report the violations, then all is good!
That and he wasn't the primary for any of those recruits except Big Mike.
Brian / Seth will have a better memory, but in general his recruiting chops were described as... limited if I recall. He missed out on a lot of big name guys.
IIRC He had at least one major faux pas with a 'big time' recruit that led to him being shown the door.
no HE wasn't the one with Xavier Worthy's mom; you're thinking of
Be nice if they could start falling apart sometime soon.
Didn’t need X. Won it all without him and 4.2 speed.
I don’t recall well enough but landing Onwenu and Ruiz are pretty significant. Not that it really was a huge deal then because he was gone before they were developed. Overall his Olines he coached here were good not great qb play was a bigger issue at the time.
Subsequently, his OL groups at USC and UCLA were downright awful. I think he’d be an amazing choice for Ohios new OL coach!
I remember Drevno for being 1000% unable to identify a OT. The Alaric Jackson recruitment still boggles the mind.
Well...to be fair, the kid actually ends up hitting the ball.
weirdly, the kid then ran to third base, thinking that's where people should start off
Pay the man his points.
and is known as a big-time recruiter
He is? That's news to me...
It's also news to Tim Drevno.
....and to recruits!
Interesting the correlation between Harbaugh's first 6 years and how many assistant coaches were not wanted by other programs or ended up fired vs the last 3 and how many more wins we had.
though the other program that wanted most of our coaches is the San Diego Chargers....
...and the Ravens wanted McDonald back after a one year loan....
Exactly. Drevno being hired as a QC coach at this stage of his career is pretty damning evidence that he was out of his depth at Michigan. I blame Harbaugh for not getting the best candidate for the job. If he wanted to hire his buddy to hang out and help him keep it real, it should have been done a la the subsequent Biff Poggi hire.
Damn! SO close to making my first post on the board.
May he work out as well for them as he did for us....
Day probably thinks he really stuck it to Harbaugh with this hire...
Ha! Ha! Jim!!
I hired the best man at your wedding!
I forget how it works. Are "quality control" coaches the ones who do on field coaching a la Ryan Osborn (just kidding NCAA), or the ones who do film review and self-scouting?
If the former, it probably makes sense that OSU would take all the help along the OL that it can get.
Film review and self-scouting. If you remember, JayBaugh came to Michigan from Baltimore, where he was an offensive QC coach. So maybe Tim is working himself back back in to an on-field coaching role.
The Cyan Day School of Coaching Rehab? Is he trying to be the new Dean of the Saban Rehab Center?
Film review and self-scouting. If you remember, JayBaugh came to Michigan from Baltimore, where he was an offensive QC coach. So maybe Tim is working himself back back in to an on-field coaching role.
That's a little different though. If I'm not mistaken, there's no limit on the number of coaches an NFL team can have (unlike college, where you can have 10 on-field coaches and a couple grad assistants). For strange reasons that I don't understand, the NFL seems to call positions QC instead of "assistant [position] coach," but really these are just assistant position coaches who are doing on-field coaching. Contrast that to college, where at least per the rules, analysts are limited to hands-off analysis and review...
Ryan is tryin' to be the next Nick Saban School of Coaching Rehab? If I needed coaching rehab I'd find a coach a lot more like Saban and lot less than Ryan. Gotta hang with the winners.
If that’s the case, Day needs to start with better talent if he’s going to follow in lil’ Nicky’s footsteps.
What a fall from grace. Dude went from trusted Harbaugh OC coach at Stanford, San Fran, and Michigan, to being a quality control assistant at OSU. Hope he saved that money from earlier in his career!
Guess he'll be pumping that well for a few more years...
Drevno is really an enigma. Dude was a highly regarded OL coach who fell victim to what I call the Drevno Effect, whereby a skilled position coach takes on coordinator duties in addition to his positional coaching duties, and with so much on his plate does a substandard job even at the positional stuff he used to excel at. Makes me leery whenever one of our positional coaches takes on coordinator duties; in the back of my mind I'm wondering if the positional coaching is going to drop off.
But the weird thing with Drevno is that after his failed stint as OC/OL here, he went back to being purely an OL coach, and yet the performance didn't really seem to pick back up. He was fired after a couple years at USC, and I don't think he was anything special at UCLA. So I sit there and wonder what happened. He's too young for it to be an age thing. Did something break him? Or was he never that good to begin with (seems unlikely that Harbaugh would have kept bringing him along though if he wasn't, especially at a position like OL that is integral to the Harbauffense)?
isn't that just the peter principle?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle
Doesn't need a new name
isn't that just the peter principle?
Not really. The typical Peter Principle is that people get promoted until they finally get to a level at which they're no longer competent. You're a good employee, but not a good manager. A good position coach, but not a good coordinator. So yeah that covers Drevno being a poor OC, but it doesn't take into account his OL coaching ability also dropping off a cliff (likely because it's probably fairly rare to get promoted but also retain your old job in addition to the new job).
TLDR: the Peter Principle is about not being able to adequately do your new job after being promoted, while the Drevno Effect is the Peter Principle PLUS also suddenly being unable to do your old job where you previously excelled and what got you promoted in the first place...
Drevno probably needed Harbaugh more than the other way around.
Look he “controls the quality,” he has people skills! He is good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?
i thought april fools was over
tim drev--NOOOOOOOO
Interesting to read Tim Drevno and the word "quality" in the same sentence. Like water and oil, or Ryan Day and "toughness."
Are you implying that words / terms which describe the team in Columbus include: Charmin and Ulta-Soft?
The next hire is definitely going to be Pep Hamilton. Take that, Jim! I'm stealing your staff from six years ago!
"Big-time recruiter"
hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha
Hey he recruited some big time names! He just didn't actually sign them.
Day / OSU might follow the path that Bama / Saban did - which was, hire all kinds of people - analysts, "extras" for practice, film watchers and studiers, etc.
At Miami, Saban's staff was probably larger than any other NFL teams. And, it seems like there was a lot of interest in hiring former head coaches to "Analyst" positions in Tuscaloosa throughout Nick's tenure there.
Is Drevno the right fit for the Buckeyes? Well, their OL needs to return to what they were several years ago - but, coaching and recruiting play a huge role in an OL's performance - as well as the offensive scheme.
It will be interesting to see what happens in Columbus.
As a point of reference, the Buckeyes have three "way too early Top 25" opponents this season - they'll play # 3 Oregon in Eugene. Then they'll travel to State College to play #8 Penn State. And, their conference season ends against the 8th ranked Wolverines.
Michigan will host 4th ranked Texas, then hosts 3rd ranked Oregon, and finishes the season at 2nd ranked Ohio State.
This is probably the answer. Hire anyone with an internal or strong external reference to all these new analyst positions and have them all analysing their way back to relevance, while they sit on a job lined with potential and 5 stars. It maybe that the time has passed on this model, it may still work, but Day hired the right advisors to set up his system to build a Saban-like machine in the potential B1G vacuum...
That's a better hire than Kelly.
Well, I guess that’ll teach us not to hire their RB coach again!
George Helow come on down.