|11/24/2018 - 1:22pm||That should have been a flag…||
Urban is pissed, but I'm okay that it wasn't called.
|11/15/2018 - 5:59pm||There is also former WVU…||
There is also former WVU grad-transfer and walk-on Chris Chungunov. I don't believe Chungunov has gotten any playing time yet, but IIRC he is currently the 3rd string QB as Matthew Baldwin continues to rehabs from a knee injury.
|11/15/2018 - 5:51pm||I think that is why OSU has…||
I think that is why OSU has started to give Tate Martell some snaps within the redzone and obvious running downs now. During the bye week, OSU practiced some packages designed for Martell, and similar to the ones used during the 2006 Florida season with Chris Leak/Tim Tebow.
|11/15/2018 - 5:30pm||This will be one of the…||
This will be one of the weakest QB draft classes in a while. If Haskins declares for the draft, he'll instantly be a top-3 QB prospect alongside Oregon's Justin Herbert, and WVU's Will Grier.
Then again, the projected top-5 of the NFL draft aren't exactly QB hungry teams outside of the NY Giants.
Personally though, I just have a hard time seeing Haskins come backs unless it is for sentimental reasons.
|11/13/2018 - 1:12pm||FWIW, Trevon Grimes's has…||
FWIW, Trevon Grimes's has been liking all the other players' tweets about it not being true.
|10/30/2018 - 10:12pm||Honestly, even as an Ohio…||
Honestly, even as an Ohio State fan, I would 100% be okay with him leaving after this season. From a health and wellness standpoint, Urban needs to step away soon. There's nothing left for him to prove as a coach.
This is the first time the national media is picking up this story, but Urban hasn't been in good health for a few seasons now. The brain cyst apparently gets inflamed and fills up faster when Urban is under stress, and it got so bad in 2014, Urban had to undergo surgery to drain it and relieve the pressure.
Regardless of what you think of the man from a moral standpoint, Urban without a doubt takes his job way too seriously. Every mistake on the field agonizes him, and success brings him very short term joy before he starts to prep for the next game/season. Every of shot Urban on the sidelines the last few seasons it looks like he is beyond stressed, and agitated.
This isn't a game to Urban, this is an never-ending pursuit for complete and unobtainable perfection... That neurotic drive and attention to every little detail is what makes him a great coach, but also what is probably slowly damaging him.
|10/30/2018 - 7:16pm||he claimed to have heart…||
The arachnoid cyst was actually way before Florida. Urban said he had his first episode back in the 90s when he was still a WR coach for Notre Dame when he collapsed during a blinding headache.
Since then, he has had the brain cyst surgically drained 2-3 times and most recently during the 2014 offseason. The surgery has a lot of risks, so they usually only do it when the pain becomes unbearable to function. Otherwise, they attempt to manage the pain with medications... which also happens to be the medications blamed for Urban's memory loss.
Also, as a side note... Urban complained of "heart attack-like" pain while he was at Florida, which was later diagnosed to be stress-induced "esophageal spasms." One of the common symptoms of esophageal spasms is chest pain.
|10/23/2018 - 8:32pm||Yes, Urban Meyer has an …||
Yes, Urban Meyer has an "arachnoid cyst," which gets inflamed and filled with spinal fluid during stress causing severe headaches. Every few years Urban has to get surgery to drain the cyst if it gets really bad, but otherwise he can try to manage it with medications...
Apparently, it is the medication for the cyst that has been claimed to be "memory-altering." Urban has said before that he dislikes the medication and tries to avoid taking it if possible, but will have to when the headaches get too bad.
|10/23/2018 - 3:10pm||I disagree that Ohio State…||
I disagree that Ohio State was playing well in 2015 prior to the Michigan State game. That team was a mess on offense all season with the oddest playcalling from Ed Warriner/Tim Beck. There was no identity or congruency to the offense. Up until the MSU game, OSU's MO was to look like crap on offense for 3 quarters, and then feed the ball to Zeke in the 4th quarter to bail them out After the MSU loss, Urban Meyer took over playcalling for the Michigan and Notre Dame game.
|10/23/2018 - 2:50pm||I'd be surprised if Austin…||
I'd be surprised if Austin Mack declared early because he doesn't quite have the career numbers to be a high draft pick. If Mack decides to stay another year, he'd most likely be the leading WR next season, and he could potentially convince his roommate Dwayne Haskins to stay an additional year.
|10/23/2018 - 2:32pm||While KJ Hill is OSU's best…||
While KJ Hill is OSU's best overall WR... Austin Mack is probably Ohio State's best "pure WR" in the sense that he is constantly credited as being the best route runner in the group by the coaches, and has the prototypical WR build (6'2" 215lbs). He is also Dwayne Haskins' roommate and arguably the latter's most trusted/favorite target. Unfortunately, Mack has had some issues with drops this season, but Haskins always seems to try and force some passes to him anyways based on trust.
While it is a significant loss to lose Mack, WR is probably the deepest position group on offense where they rotate 6 WRs regularly.
|10/11/2018 - 1:10pm||Well actually in addition to…||
Well actually in addition to Bosa, OSU also has starting DE Jonathan Cooper and OLB Malik Harrison out due to concussion protocol.
|10/08/2018 - 12:27pm||How so? Ohio State currently…||
How so? Ohio State currently has 6 scholarship RBs on the roster:
The running back depth was so log jammed that former 4* recruit Antonio Williams transferred this offseason after supposedly being jumped by some of the freshmen.
|09/17/2018 - 11:19pm||Reminds me of when people…||
Reminds me of when people used to give Joey Bosa grief because his production as a Junior dipped from when he was a Sophomore. When you make a name for yourself as an elite DE, you're going to face triple and double teams consistently:
Plus, it wasn't like Bosa wasn't still putting up numbers... He still had 5 sacks, 16 TFLs, and 15 QB hurries on the season.
Gary should be fine.
|09/17/2018 - 5:40pm||Well the 3 listed starters…||
When Nick Bosa went down on Saturday against TCU, OSU's coaching staff slid Chase Young to Bosa's spot on the weakside, and put Jonathan Cooper on the strongside.
One of the downside of having the 4 "Rushmen" (Bosa, Lewis, Hubbard, and Holmes) splitting snaps last year at DE was decreased opportunities to rotate in the underclassmen. Chase Young got the 5th most snaps at DE last year, and Cooper had primarily played DT his first 2 seasons at Ohio State. So most of the backups are relative unknowns.
|09/16/2018 - 11:32am||OSU's defense has looked a…||
OSU's defense has looked a little rough in the first 3 weeks, but they are also working back in 2 really big pieces in S Jordan Fuller, and MLB Tuf Borland.
Fuller just came back from a hamstring injury, and is by far the best player in OSU's secondary. Tuf Borland is OSU's best MLB and run stopper, but is still on a "snap count" by the coaching staff as he comes back from an Achilles' tear.
Without those two on the field consistently, the defense has been prone to a lot of miscues, and missed tackles in the 2nd level.
|09/16/2018 - 11:21am||Yes, as a RsSo. Haskins will…||
Yes, as a RsSo. Haskins will be draft-eligible after this season. Ohio State is dangerously thin at QB since Joe Burrow transferred to LSU.
Right now, there is only 1 scholarship QB behind Haskins with RsFr. Tate Martell. The 3rd string QB is walk-on RsJr. Chris Chugunov, who is a grad-transfer from WVU. There is also true freshman Matt Baldwin who is currently taking a medical redshirt to recover from a knee injury suffered near the end of his high school career.
If Haskins leaves, then Tate Martell is the clear frontrunner without much depth or competition behind him as of right now.
|08/22/2018 - 10:38pm||McMurphy must be out of dirt…||
Didn’t the Powell PD already address this weeks ago?
|03/01/2018 - 11:13am||Britches||
It was simply Warinner being promoted above his abilities to a lead OC, but to be fair it was something Warinner made no secret of wanting as well
Warinner originally left Notre Dame for Ohio State because he was offended that Brian Kelly decided to promote Chuck Martin to OC instead of Warinner. When Tom Herman left for Houston, Warinner was the natural choice to be the next OC, and he even convinced Urban to hire on Tim Beck. Then in 2015 it became painfully obvious that both OC Warinner and co-OC Beck we’re out of their depths when they struggled offensively all season with a stacked/talented roster.
In 2016, Urban even took away Warinner’s OL coaching duties in the hopes that the latter could focus more on being the OC. Eventually it was clear that neither Warinner or Beck could coordinate at the level expected and both were released after 2016.
It would have been fantastic if Warinner could have gone back to being just an OL coach, but it is hard to demote someone after promoting them (see: Drevno). Ohio State fans have mostly been happy with Greg Studwara who replaced Warinner as an OL coach in 2016, but Warinner definitely shines bright those first 4 seasons.
|02/13/2018 - 7:42am||Coaching duties||
I’m interested to see how Urban splits the coaching duties. Schiano, Grinch and Taver Johnson all have significant experience coaching the secondary, and one of them will also have to take over Coombs’ role as special teams coordinator.
However, I am excited to have Taver Johnson back because that 2008 secondary was one of my favorite units of all-time (Jenkins, Chekwa, Russell, and Coleman).
|02/07/2018 - 7:49pm||Rumors||
There's also some rampant rumors that Belichick is considering retirement within the near future, and Josh McDaniels stayed because Kraft has promised him the job.
Plus, from a money standpoint, Schiano will probably be getting a hefty settlement from Tenneesee soon.
|02/07/2018 - 10:21am||Interesting|
|02/07/2018 - 7:48am||Patriots’ DC position||
Supposedly, Belichick is still debating between current Patriots’ LB coach Brian Flores or Greg Schiano to be DC.
However, Greg Schiano’s relationship with Berkeley Prep’s head coach (Schiano’s sons attended the school for 2 years) was the key to getting initial interest in NPF, but Greg Studwara the OL coach has since built a pretty strong relationship as well.
|02/06/2018 - 5:41pm||Career fairs at universities are not special||
I never said it was "ground-breaking" and I even said other schools probably have similar programs. I am saying is that Urban Meyer has actually made it a highly publicized aspect of the football program, and has made it a focal point of his recruitment pitch. Multiple recruits' family every single class since 2013 has specifically named the program as a huge deciding factor for them.
If other programs really are doing it to the extent and level that Ohio State has integrated it into the football program, then good for them and maybe they should start highlighting it. It would probably impress the parents of prospective recruits more than all the fresh, new kicks and slick, alternative jerseys.
|02/06/2018 - 5:26pm||"how many very academically oriented players on OSU"||
Off the top of my head, DE Sam Hubbard was named an Academic All-American and will be graduating with honors from Fisher's College of Business. I only know that because there was some rumors that Hubbard was thinking of forgoing the NFL draft to earn his MBA, but ultimately decided that he could come back and do it after the NFL.
|02/06/2018 - 4:56pm||Tom Herman||
I am sure that some colleges do a version of it, but none of them are as publicized as Ohio State's program. Plus, I would not be surprised if the program at Ohio State is one of the most developed ones since Urban does it on a weekly basis at the sacrfice of potential practice/film time.
Former OC Tom Herman said that it was the first time he had seen or heard a program like it during his coaching career, and he liked it so much that he has carried it with him to Houston and Texas now.
|02/06/2018 - 4:25pm||Berkley Prep||
Greg Schiano has a good relationship with Berkley Prep's coach because his twin sons attended that school when they lived in Tampa, but Greg Studrawa has also been heavily involved in the NPF's recruitment. The latter probably matters more to NPF since Studrawa will actually be his position coach, and Schiano is a defensive coach.
|02/06/2018 - 4:17pm||"Real Life Wednesdays"||
From the sounds of it, Nicholas Petit-Frere and his family were extremely impressed with the efforts Urban Meyer has placed on professional development beyond the NFL/football field.
I am taking this to mean the weekly "Real Life Wednesdays" seminar that Urban started at Ohio State in 2013. Every week Urban invites prominent members of the business and industry world to give lectures on "real life" topics (i.e. resume development, interview etiquette, networking, and etc.). Urban organizes a bi-yearly career fair that he has opened up to all student-athletes at Ohio State, which has allowed numerous students to land internships, interviews, and contacts in various career fields.
Urban said he had this revelation when he was attending recruiting pitches for his own children as they were pursuing college athletics (volleyball and baseball). As a parent, Urban realized how little he cared about what jersey numbered they were offering, or what kind of super sweet gear the team had, and wanted to know instead what they program could do to help advance his children's future beyond "getting them a free degree."
|01/31/2018 - 11:16am||UGA||
Georgia will likely end up with the #1 recruiting class. They are the favorite to land 5* CB Tyson Campbell, and OSU would have a hard time retaining the #1 247Composite class.
OSU has been putting increased emphasis on landing 1-2 more OTs since losing Jackson Carman to Clemson. They seem to be solidly in 3rd or 4th place for OT NPF, but he is using his last official visit to come to Columbus this weekend. OT Rasheed Walker is essentially down to Ohio State or Penn State, and it'll probably comes down to who has the last face-to-face contact with him.
|01/24/2018 - 2:07pm||Co-DC Alex Grinch||
If I had to take an educated guess, the recently hired Co-DC Alex Grinch will take over Coombs' role.
Alex Grinch was a former All-American DB at Mount Union (D-III), and rose up the coaching ranks as a DB coach, and most recently served as Washington State's "DC/secondary coach."
|01/23/2018 - 10:50am||Minor differences||
Urban uses a few variations of the coordiantor title to denote a clear hierarchy in responsbilities/duties, but mostly to justify pay raises.
A coach can be either a coordinator (i.e. Greg Schiano), co-coordinator (Alex Grinch), or an assistant coordinator (Kerry Coombs).
|01/23/2018 - 10:44am||Playcalling duties||
If I had the guess, the promotion is primarily to justify giving Ryan Day a raise, and may an official role for in-game playcalling. Last year, Kevin Wilson was the primary playcaller on the offense, and Ryan Day gave input from the box. So if anything, this will probably give Day a more official role in the passing game than previously.
|01/20/2018 - 5:11pm||Depends on your expectation||
Warinner could never seem to close on Ohio State’s top targets (i.e. top-50/5-star) OL recruits, but could reel in the 2nd and 3rd tier guys. However, there was thought that most coaches could bring in those lower priority targets just by being blue blood program, and that a mark of a truly elite recruiter was winning the recruiting battles for the blue-chip OL guys against other blue bloods programs.
Plus, I would also have to go back and count up the number of OL recruits each year, but the last few seasons of Ed’s tenure the OL depth was a huge worry. So I think there were concerns of missing too many prospects and under-recruiting the group from a numbers standpoint. It wasn’t a huge problem that manifested since Ed always had the starters well prepared, and OSU was pretty fortunate from an OL injury standpoint (only minor OL injuries for several seasons).
|01/20/2018 - 4:52pm||Both||
Both were problems for slightly different issues. When OC Tom Herman left, co-OC/OL Ed Warinner got promoted to the lead OC with playcalling duties. Tim Beck was brought on to be the new co-OC/QB coach.
Apparently the 2015-2016 team was a mess in offensive identity because both Tim Beck and Ed Warinner could not agree on an offensive identity, and it made the in-game playcalling a huge clusterfuck. So much so, that Urban just took over playcalling that season for the last 2-3 games after the MSU loss. For the 2016-2017 season, Urban tried to streamline the playcalling by having both of them sit up in booth together, and hopefully come to a consensus more efficiently.
OC Ed Warinner was a fantastic OL coach, but a slightly below recruiter that could get a lot of 3-4* OLs, but missed on on several blue-chip OL prospects.
co-OC Tim Beck was a fantastic recruiter who built a ton of relationships in Texas, but a horrendous QB coach that derailed the trajectory of both Cardale Jones's and JT Barrett's development (also, Taylor Martinez @ Nebraska). Herman had Barrett playing like a Heisman finalist as a RsFr., and took Cardale Jones on one of the most amazing 4-game run ever for a 3rd-string QB... Beck did the exact opposite.
|01/20/2018 - 4:37pm||Tom Herman||
Well technically, Tom Herman was the lead OC, and playcaller for that team, and Ed Warinner was the co-OC/OL coach. Warinner was a great OL coach, and supposedly decent at designing/scripting plays during preparation. It just when Warinner took over as the lead playcaller after Herman left, it became apparent that Warinner was not as good as Herman at adjusting the offense when the opposing defenses learned to adapt.
Warinner (and co-OC Tim Beck) were not creative enough to adapt the offense, or develop it further as the the season went on. It got so bad that during towards the end of the 2015-2016 season, Urban Meyer just took over playcalling duties for the last 2-3 games of the season, and for 2016-2017 Urban moved both Warinner AND Beck up to the booth together.
|01/19/2018 - 9:39pm||OSU's DT/DE depth||
Ohio State lose 4 major contributors on the D-Line in DE Jalyn Holmes, DE Sam Hubbard, DE Tyquan Lewis, and DT Tracy Sprinkle, but they also return several experienced players who played 150+ snaps this year:
So depth-wise, Tyler Friday might start his career out as a DE for Ohio State, but Bosa and Young have pretty much locked up the starting DE positions. Plus, Jashon Cornell will probably move back outside to his natural SDE spot, which would have OSU's current roster at 5 scholarship DEs, and 8 scholarship DTs ahead of the Class of 2018.
|01/19/2018 - 9:23pm||Well...||
One would really hope that most redshirt seniors would be "light years" ahead of a high schooler, both physically and skill-wise.
What was actually being implied is that if Maurice Hurst can have success putting on weight, and being a slightly undersized DT, then there's no reason that Tyler Friday couldn't potentially do the same.
|01/18/2018 - 8:26pm||OTOH...||
People actually said very similar things about running backs and Urban's offense when he first came to Ohio State in 2012: "Why would RB recruits want to play for a coach that has never produced a 1000-yard rusher?"
Since then, Urban had 4 different running backs (i.e. Hyde, Elliott, Weber, and Dobbins) eclipse 1000-yard in 5 straight seasons. Urban brought on 2 new co-OCs to get integrate some fresh ideas, and specifically made one of them his TE coach as well. If Jeremy Ruckert is the real deal, I wouldn't be surprised to see Kevin Wilson tailor the offense to suit his skills a la Jermaine Gresham.
|01/18/2018 - 8:06pm||< 5 months old||
To be fair though Jeremy Rucket is 17 years old, grew up in Long Island, NY, and was less than 5 months old when John Cooper was fired at Ohio State.
|01/18/2018 - 7:16pm||Re: Josh Allen||
Honestly I could see it... Mel Kiper offers a reasonable explanation. In his mind, none of the projected top-3 QBs are home-run, no-brainer picks for the Browns.
Josh Rosen has a significant injury history already with the season-ending shoulder injury in 2016, and two concussions in 2017. Plus, Rosen has been heavily rumored to do whatever is necessary to not end up in Cleveland (ex: Eli Manning and Chargers), which is supposedly coupled by the Browns front office not like Rosen's overall personality/attitude. Both Sam Darnold and Josh Allen have bad throwing mechanics that could take a while to fix, but Darnold is far riskier with the ball.
So in the end, the difference/risk/reward between the 3 options is minimal to Kiper, and he went with the prospect that he believes has the highest ceiling from a purely physical standpoint (6'5" 240lbs).
Also... it is the Cleveland Browns.
|01/18/2018 - 1:33pm||OC Kevin Wilson||
HIstorically, tight ends are not heavily involved in the passing game with Urban's offense, but most expect that to change this upcoming season with OC Kevin Wilson entering the 2nd year of his tenure with new starters at QB and TE. Based on Wilson's history as an offensive mind, he will readily use tight ends if a star player emerges (e.g. Jermaine Gresham).
This year's starter at tight end, senior Marcus Baugh only had 304 receiving yards and 5 TDs, but will probably still get drafted. NFL teams do seem to highly value college tight ends that can block at a high level, and are still athletic enough to be involved in the passing game if needed (i.e. Nick Vannett [3rd round; #94 overall], and Jeff Heuerman [3rd round; #94 overall]).
|01/15/2018 - 8:09pm||Kansas State||
There's always rumors that float around that Brent Venables is hoping to get the KSU job after Bill Snyder to retire. Same rumor exists for Oregon DC Jim Leavitt who actually has a clause in his contract that allows him to leaving for the Kansas State job at any point.
However this is complicated by Bill Snyder wanting his son, Sean Snyder to succeed him. Bill is apparently willing to continue coaching until the Kansas State AD agrees/feels comfortable naming his son as the Head-Coach-in-waiting.
|01/15/2018 - 8:03pm||FWIW||
You are right about Buckeye fans because upset at the WRs play for the 2016 season, but not so much for this past season.
There wasn't a singular WR that stood out as a clear #1 option, but there was improvement in the group as a whole. The recieving corp went from catching 2781 yards and 26 TDs in 2016 to 3679 yards and 39 TDs in 2017. A lot of fans have actually coorelated this perceived improvement with the hiring of former Buckeye, and 6-year NFL WR Brian Hartline as a grad assistant. It could also be natural maturation as WR coach Zach Smith had mostly freshmen and sophomores to replace Jalin Marshall, Braxton Miller, and Michael Thomas in 2016.
|01/12/2018 - 3:19pm||Re: Thad Matta||
Towards the end, Thad Matta was also dealing with pretty debilitating chronic back pain from a botched surgery in 2007. The pain got so bad that Thad could not even take his shoes off some days, and it is also the reason he had to constantly be sitting on a stool during games.
Thad said that the pain didn't really affect his coaching during practices, and coming up with gameplans, but it did make it really difficult to go out and recruit. Apparently some coaches were using Thad's condition to sway recruits away from Ohio State saying that he wasn't even willing to make the trip to come scout them personally.
|01/05/2018 - 11:05am||Security||
Except that Urban has had co-DCs for 5/6 seasons he has been at Ohio State. Urban was planning to have one this season to replace Luke Fickell, but the NCAA unexpectedly decided to delay the approval of the 10th asst. coach position a year.
Urban likes have co-coordinators, so if one leaves than the other can maintain continuity. So Urban is probably expecting Greg Schiano to get another HC offer next season, and wants to make sure there's an established successor.
Sure, the defense inexplctly collapsed against Iowa, but Schiano's unit still finished 9th in the country in total defense, and they dominated USC's offense: 14 TFLs, 8 sacks, and 4 turnovers.
|01/04/2018 - 6:04pm||"Tim Beck going to OSU was going to be terrifying"||
Unless you mean terrifying in a negative way, I disagree...
Even most Ohio State fans did not love the hire when it happened, but they were willing to give it a chance. Most reporters at the time were saying that Urban's top targets to replace Tom Herman were Boise State's OC Mike Sanford Jr. and Oregon's OC Scott Frost in that order. Mike Sanford Jr. decided to become a sole OC at Notre Dame vs. a co-OC at Ohio State, and Scott Frost was only interested in jumping to a HC position.
After striking out on those two, Ed Warriner offered up his former colleague at Kansas, and newly fired Nebraska OC Tim Beck. Most OSU fans were not impressed with the hire from the start due to Nebraska's lackluster offense, and poor QB development under Beck, but were hopeful that Urban would cover for any of Beck's weaknesses. Plus, for all Beck shortcomings as a coach, he was a hell of a recruiter (and still is at Texas).
|01/04/2018 - 6:04pm||NFL All-Rookie||
Not saying there haven't been SOME busts in the NFL for Ohio State, but they did just have 5 guys make the 2016 NFL All-Rookie team including the reigning Offensive and Defensive Rookies of the Year in Bosa and Elliott. Plus on the Saints, Marshon Lattimore is the leading candidate for DRotY this season and Michael Thomas just became their single season leader in receptions. Also, Taylor Decker has been a pretty solid LT for the Lions when he has been healthy.
|01/04/2018 - 5:57pm||Co-coordinators||
Historically, Urban has favored using co-coordinators for a while now. At Florida, he had Greg Mattison and Charlie Strong as his co-DCs from 2005-2007. Since Urban has been at Ohio State he has had:
So if anything, this last season was the oddball one with a sole DC in Schiano.Urban has said that he prefers using co-coordinators because he loses asst. coaches at such a fast rate that it is nice to have at least one coordinator stick around for continuity, and to show the next guy the ropes. I think Urban avoids the whole "too many cooks" scenario by establishing clear chain of command with one explict playcaller on each side (i.e. Luke Fickell > Everett Withers, or Kevin Wilson > Ryan Day). I think Urban only steps in as a playcaller when needed/when there is a lot of disagreement, and someone needs to make a final call.
|12/26/2017 - 11:38am||Panties?||
I was actually just curious on who you thought was Urban's second best defensive hire.
To me personally, I think Urban's 2nd best defensive hire regardless if your counting from 2012 onwards, or just current staff is DL coach Larry Johnson Sr. Great recruiter, and has produced 12 Big Ten DL of the Year including seven 1st round draft picks.
|12/25/2017 - 12:48pm||Who?||
Genuinely curious on who are you referring too?
Urban's best D hire has either been Mike Vrabel (Houston Texans' DC), Luke Fickell (Cincinnati's HC), Chris Ash (Rutgers's HC), or current "3rd/4th-in-command" D coach Larry Johnson Sr. who is not too shabby at recruiting and producing defensive linemen either.
Urban's worst hire on defense has probably been former DC Everett Withers who is the current HC of Texas State.