JonnyHintz

February 27th, 2024 at 7:44 PM ^

To be honest, I don’t even think most of them are THAT serious. A coach commented on a commitment post of a recruit, two boosters took a photo with a player, and they sent a committed player an edit before they were allowed to (NCAA requires the player to at least be a Junior in high school for whatever reason and he wasn’t yet). Aside from that, the most serious is that they contacted a player who wasn’t technically in the portal but had stated his intention to enter the portal. 
 

Fun for us for narrative purposes but it’s really a whole bunch of nothing. 
 

 

JonnyHintz

February 27th, 2024 at 8:38 PM ^

Where did I support them? Because I acknowledge that the violations were extremely minor, which the NCAA (and the rule book) agrees with? Seems like a reach. 
 

Because I hate them means I have to pretend that sending a sophomore a commitment edit is a huge deal because he’s not a junior yet, which would have been allowed per the rules? 

JonnyHintz

February 27th, 2024 at 8:46 PM ^

https://x.com/hayesfawcett3/status/1762251117558104558?s=46&t=KBFYyyuDBE9KuWjE-WUrrg
 

Basically this. Someone in the OSU recruiting department created a commitment photo similar to this one for a player who had just committed. For whatever reason, the NCAA doesn’t allow this until a player is in his junior year of high school and the recruit was a sophomore. 

JonnyHintz

February 27th, 2024 at 9:55 PM ^

In-person contact with recruits during a dead period (and then providing an impermissible meal to boot) is definitely more serious than tweeting a reply to a tweet or sending an edit to a committed recruit a couple months before you’re technically allowed to. 

What Michigan did are Level II violations, what OSU did are Level III. From an NCAA perspective and a common sense perspective, what Michigan did is more severe. None of them are major, but let’s at least be honest here. Don’t let your bias in favor of Michigan and against OSU cloud your judgement. 

JonnyHintz

February 28th, 2024 at 5:12 AM ^

I quite literally said “none of them are major” in my post. That doesn’t mean what Michigan did wasn’t more severe than what OSU is self-reporting here.
 

Michigan’s violations were Level II violations. OSU’s violations were Level III violations. From a rules standpoint, what Michigan did was more severe. That’s a fact. 
 

From a common sense standpoint, in-person contact with recruits during a recruiting a recruiting dead period and providing an impermissible benefit (which buying them a meal is) is more severe of an offense than replying to a tweet. Rules violations vary in severity. It’s a spectrum with three different levels, it’s not just “major or not major.”
 

Arguing any different is just bias and “I hate OSU” vibes. 

Romeo50

February 28th, 2024 at 11:21 AM ^

You say that like it is a bad thing. Given the Orcs we have to deal with I'd say some bias and indignation and a general lack of trust regarding that school and fanbase is not surprising here on the "UM FB fan Blog"! Even better tongue in cheek.

It is not like anyone here is so insecure and hopped up ;) as to employ the family connections and launch an unprecedented and orchestrated PI Firm led investigation of a fellow BigTen Blue blood school. Think of the misconstrued threats and defamation emanating from said behavior that could tarnish and cause harm to young students of the NCAA. I am sure casting aspirations about whole groups of innocent people and their occupations would never occur from an institution but better safe than sorry, eh?

Beilein 4 Life

February 29th, 2024 at 11:38 AM ^

From a common sense perspective, if our coach was suspended 3 games for one level 2 violation, committing four level 3 violations should be about the same. I’m sure with your defense of these very serious violations you are also calling for Day to be suspended for 3 games. Personally I think they should start investigating Day at the beginning of the season and end the investigation Friday, November 15th. They can announce Day’s 3 game suspension on Friday night before the NW game and we can all start to heal from this grave injustice.

And yes, you making excuses why Michigan’s nothing-burger violations are so much worse than OSU’s nothing-burger violations is definitely you defending OSU.

njvictor

February 27th, 2024 at 8:34 PM ^

It's interesting that some of the violations reported seem to kinda infer that there were worse violations going on. 

But the NCAA obviously won't investigate further because self reporting a few minor violations to keep the NCAA off your back as you continue to commit worse violations is a practice as old as the NCAA itself

NittanyFan

February 27th, 2024 at 6:40 PM ^

Just a reminder of one of the better stunts ever pulled by Ohio State:

On November 9, 2011, Ohio State decided to announce the self-imposition of the loss of 5 football scholarships, as regards the Robert DiGeronimo (Booster) affair.

What else was going on that particular day in history?  Well, the Sandusky/Paterno story was at firestorm levels, reaching its climax with Paterno being fired at 10 PM that evening.

I'm sort of surprised they didn't wait for a 7.0 earthquake or some other scandal to release this one.

https://news.osu.edu/ncaa-ohio-state-complete-investigation-into-remaining-open-items/