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12/12/2018 - 1:22pm Diaz has never coached north…

Diaz has never coached north of Raleigh. 

It's theoretically possible the man has never owned an ice-scraper in his life.

12/12/2018 - 9:55am PSU roster - they're shaping…

PSU roster - they're shaping up to lose 6 players off of the 44 man 2-deep.  One of them is McSorley, of course, and losing the QB is big.  But most of the 2019 2-deep will be experienced and since PSU has recruited well they have raw talent.

Someone else made this point here earlier this autumn and it's a good one.  The Michigan football trajectory and individual seasons from 2015-2017 is fairly similar to the same for PSU in 2016-2018.  Doesn't mean that trend/analogy will continue of course.  But I can sort of see it continuing, also.

Anyway, my point bringing those 2 things up: I do think PSU should be at least good in 2019.  Michigan @ PSU should be a solid test and a non-gimme for both teams.

12/12/2018 - 4:47am Dude.  You're quoting me and…

Wait.  You're quoting me and calling my argument "total BS" but not even quoting me correctly. 

I said "I think all coaches of that generation had more bully characteristics versus coaches in this generation."  

I tend to like message board disagreement.  Debate is fun.  But you took my quote and deleted a non-insignificant word in the middle of the quote.  I'm sorry, I don't think that was an accident on your part.  I think you knew what you were doing there and I think that was a non-intellectually honest conversational tactic on your part.

12/12/2018 - 1:24am I am a guest on this board. …

My posting history on this board - it's not a history of defending Joe Paterno.  

Anyway, back to Knight.  I'm not defending him either.  But him being a bully is the lesser of his sins (IMO).

12/11/2018 - 11:16pm I think all coaches of that…

I think all coaches of that generation had more "bully characteristics" versus coaches in this generation.  It was more culturally acceptable then.  Shoot, even Schembechler was accused of being a bully a few times (there was some GQ article on this in the 90s).

So - while Knight most definitely was a bully - I'll cut Knight a bit of slack on that one.

But where Knight doesn't deserve slack is in terms of him being an asshole.  There's a difference between "bully" and "asshole."  "Asshole" has never been culturally acceptable.

And as you said, he was an asshole. 

Some of the stuff he would do to publicly embarrass folk (IU President Thomas Ehrlich, to name one) was just ridiculous.  He did things that were truly worthy of him getting punched square in the jaw.  But nobody challenged him, he continued to think he was bulletproof, so he persisted onward.  Finally one day Myles Brand did grow some balls and fired him.

12/11/2018 - 3:53pm What is in this for the …

What is in this for the "lower division schools" --- Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Rutgers, et cetera?  You are essentially making them second-class citizens of their own conference.

You need to incentivize them as well.  I don't see that in this plan.

12/11/2018 - 3:37pm 33 vs. 31 --- that…

33 vs. 31 --- that essentially even.  2 of Penn State's 33 are placekickers (Robbie Gould and amazingly enough given his early college struggles, Sam Ficken).

I don't see any scenarios going forward where all of U-M, OSU and PSU won't draw high-level talent to their program (that has a strong chance to play in the NFL downstream). 

The order may switch, but these 3 programs should nearly always lead the list among B1G schools.

12/10/2018 - 11:44pm When Few said "the national…

When Few said "the national champions two of the last three years" --- I definitely read that as him indirectly mentioning the national champ in that other year. 

And that team was one where basketball students were literally taking fake classes, but the NCAA shrugged their shoulders.  They also beat Gonzaga in the Final that year.

Perhaps Few is a bit bitter - but I'm not sure I blame him either.

12/10/2018 - 6:12pm Well, as someone else said -…

Well, as someone else said - Bruce Pearl isn't there any more.  Their current coach (Rick Barnes) doesn't have a track record of issues.

Also: Tennessee fired Donnie Tyndall pretty quickly in 2015 after it became apparent that Tyndall had NCAA issues bubbling up at his previous job (Southern Miss).  I'll give UT some credit for showing a level of proactive-ness as regards Tyndall.

I'm not trying to be a jerk with this comment.  But I think the following paragraph is true: 

If one believes that "well, School A had issues with the NCAA under some past coach, so they shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt in the present", then if one is being consistent they wouldn't be giving Michigan basketball the benefit of the doubt in the present either.

At some point - the past is the past.  Judge the present day regime.  

12/10/2018 - 4:28pm You're taking that way too…

You're taking that way too personally.  They were playing Tennessee and his mentioning of Villanova was simply a way to take a pointed shot at UNC.   

Few specifically said "there's a lot of teams who do it right."

12/07/2018 - 1:11pm Liberty is whoring…

Liberty is whoring themselves for football success, and Hugh knows whores, so .........

Perfect Match!

12/07/2018 - 11:12am I heard on the morning news…

I heard on the morning news radio this AM that this is the first time there will be no Arizona survivors present at the annual ceremony.

Only 5 of the survivors are alive - and none are able to make that long trip to Oahu.

Time marches on - end of an era.  Definitely thank them all (my deceased Grandfather among them, he fought in Europe) for their service.

12/04/2018 - 12:48am I made the playoffs - now…

I made the playoffs - now comes actually winning a playoff game.  I'm 0-for-18-years in that regard. 

So I'm the Detroit Lions/Cincinnati Bengals.

12/03/2018 - 5:47pm Wow, that is glorious from…

Wow, that is glorious from Mike Leach.  Absolutely great.

He IS right --- EVERY damn state in the country, they have a system for their high school playoffs and they have an algorithm that determines who qualifies for the tournament.  One can perhaps argue with the algorithm (e.g., in Michigan should beating a Class C team get you 32 points or 40?).  But at least there is a set algorithm and everyone knows the formula.

Division 3 and Division 2?  Same thing. Teams are split into various regions, you get various points for winning games as the season goes on, and the teams with the most points advance to a knock-out tournament.

Division 1 however?  To hell with an algorithm!  Instead, we have adopted a mindset of "things are better in life when they are foggy and unclear."  So we came up with a bunch of nebulous "guidelines", and then have a committee of 12 people who are accountable to nobody meet behind closed doors to come up with the 4 teams that qualify for the playoffs.

It's really nonsense.  I preferred the BCS days. Yes, it was only 2 teams that played for the title.  But at least it was significantly more transparent.  People knew the formula, people knew how the teams were going to be chosen.

12/03/2018 - 2:54pm If anyone is familiar with…

The Carolina Panthers have some issues.  But those issues - they are greater than Brady Hoke.

If anyone is familiar with the "Three Envelopes Joke" --- this is obviously just Ron Rivera using the contents of Envelope #2. 

He better win some games soon, or else envelope #3 is straight ahead.

12/03/2018 - 12:39pm My impression is that one…

My impression is that one shouldn't pay too much attention to hoops attendance prior to the turn of the calendar.

Most folk are still in "football season mode" and many folk are also busier than normal with all sorts of Holiday stuff (shopping, parties, kid things at school, et cetera).

I think college hoops attendance is naturally down now vs. later in the year.  Simple seasonality.

12/02/2018 - 5:58pm He's better than Vincent's…

He's more reliable than Vincent's other brother - Vic's a true psychopath!

12/02/2018 - 3:18pm I'd bet good $$$ that Greg…

I'd bet good $$$ that Greg Sankey was lobbying behind the scenes to prevent a "Florida vs UCF" match-up.

Earlier this decade, the Liberty Bowl was C-USA vs. (low-tier) SEC and the SEC mandated rules that specifically prohibited a match-up between schools from the same state (e.g., something like Southern Miss vs. Ole Miss or MTSU vs. Tennessee).

The SEC has their "reputation" to protect, after all.  If UCF beats LSU, the SEC homers can write it off (for a 2nd consecutive year, of course) of "well, this was UCF's Super Bowl and LSU wasn't up for the game."  If it was Florida, that spinning would be harder to do.

12/01/2018 - 7:05am Does anyone know --- is this…

Does anyone know --- is this the first time ever that the OHSAA Division 1 Champion has a loss on its resume to a Michigan team (Cass Tech in this case)?  I figure it has to be.


12/01/2018 - 6:58am Sad news to wake up to ---…

Sad news to wake up to --- but he lived an incredible 94 laps around the sun.  He got his money's worth.  RIP and Godspeed,

11/29/2018 - 4:21pm Jake Feely on the call for…

Jake Feely on the call for that one!  It was funny, I'm not ribbing on the guy.  Mistakes happen.

That game was in 2017 - FWIW.

11/26/2018 - 6:29pm Honestly - I've read more…

Honestly - I've read more than one post on PSU boards wanting Penn State to move to the West Division!  Better path to Indianapolis, et cetera.

So it does happen everywhere.

11/26/2018 - 6:14pm Is the campus moving to…

Is the Michigan campus moving to Marquette?

Google tells me that Lafayette, Indiana is further west than New Buffalo - which means I'm pretty certain it's further west than every single point in the Lower Peninsula.

Unless there's some logical geographic reason for a move (there isn't) - I agree with what someone else said - Michigan appealing for something like this would make them a laughingstock.

11/23/2018 - 5:27pm McKenzie Milton out for UCF …

McKenzie Milton out for UCF --- man, that injury was horrible.  

No matter what one thinks of UCF and the national Championship, he had a hell of a 2-year-run.

11/23/2018 - 9:17am Go Pilots!  Make it back-to…

Go Pilots!  Make it back-to-back state Championships.

11/21/2018 - 7:37pm Good post --- THAT is the…

Good post (well, I think you edited it). 

But the real story is not some adult getting into a Twitter fight with a kid.  It's not good form.  But that happens somewhere every day. 

The real story is the game they were fighting about.  Supposedly one of the football Dads dressed up as a referee in an attempt to influence the result of a high school football game!

Somewhere, Earl Hebner and Vince McMahon are thinking "hey, do we get royalties from this?  That was our idea first!"

11/21/2018 - 7:04pm Yep --- Bacon's comments…

Yep --- Bacon's comments agree with some stuff I've heard.

It's been a series of mis-fires by Franklin since the 4th quarter of that OSU game.  (1) Blowing the OSU game itself, (2) getting in a shouting match with a student post-game, (3) the "elite" comment, (4) calling himself a "psycopath" in the same press conference, (5) not having his team prepared and looking awful versus MSU in the next game, (6) being uncompetitive vs. Michigan, and (7-10) each of the 4 wins have all had their various "WTF is he doing?" moments.

That is literally a 10-pack of mis-fires over the course of only 8 1/2 weeks.

11/21/2018 - 3:43pm State College has an airport…

State College has an airport served by all of United, Delta and American with flights to Detroit, Atlanta, DC, Chicago and Philly.  Yes, that airport isn't huge and to get to most places, you're flying on a regional jet to connect.  But you're also not 90 minutes from a commercial airline.

Now --- there IS a small city that's in the middle of nowhere, where you have to drive 90 minutes to get to an airport with any commercial airline service at all: Tuscaloosa, Alabama!!!  

Yet, the best coach in all of college football coaches there.

Some coaches prefer a small town over a Los Angeles.  Some prefer a Los Angeles to a small town.  But there are no universals in that regard.

11/21/2018 - 3:17pm Franklin says a lot of…

Franklin says a lot of things (a fair bit of it is nonsense).  And he flirted with Texas A&M last year - that move was sold as "a move to get PSU to open up the wallet" but you can't play it every year.

I think he's gone if USC offers.  And I don't think the PSU admins and big-money boosters are overly distraught about it either.  He's lost A LOT of goodwill since the 4th quarter of that Ohio State game.

11/20/2018 - 10:09pm If you take the S&P+…

Here's an exercise.  Take the S&P+ rankings and use those to "rank the various opponents a school has played", while also correcting for "site of game" by increasing an opponent's S&P+ by 3 points for a neutral site game, and 6 points for a road game.

Do that, and you would find that WVU's 3rd best win of the year is ......... vs. Tennessee (neutral-site game).

Nothing against WVU, but they don't have many impressive victories beyond at Texas and at Texas Tech. 

Per this "ranking of opponents played method", Utah has 6 victories more impressive than a neutral-site win at Tennessee, Florida, Washington and PSU each have 5 victories more impressive, and Kentucky and Texas each have 4.

I think various rankings are picking up on this - and it's why WVU isn't quite so high despite having only 2 losses (vs. the other schools having 3).

11/20/2018 - 9:35pm You are right - there is a…

You are right - there is a fairly big drop-off at #10.  That's the big thing in these rankings.

All those teams from #11-#17 have rather fungible resumes.  PSU's 3 best wins are at Pittsburgh, vs Wisconsin and vs Iowa.  The worst loss is vs. MSU.  Is that noticeably different than any of Kentucky, Florida, Texas, WVU, Washington and Auburn?  No, it's really not.

I'm not saying my personal "Strength of Record" rankings that I play around with are perfect.  But I have the same top #10 as the CFP rankings.  I have PSU at #13 - Kentucky and Boise State ahead of them, and PSU ahead of Florida instead of behind them.  But that whole group is rather close together and interchangable.

11/20/2018 - 11:34am Your next-to-last sentence -…

Your next-to-last sentence --- I completely 100% disagree with that. 

Franklin was a credible hire in January 2014.  And when one looks at where PSU is today and benchmarks it against expectations in January 2014: on the whole, he's done a fairly good job.

Now, Franklin may not be the man for PSU to take the desired NEXT steps (this is my opinion).  Expectations change.  But that doesn't mean he wasn't good for PSU for much of the path already traversed.

11/20/2018 - 10:32am Best news I've heard today!

Best news I've heard today!

11/19/2018 - 8:59pm Definitely better than…

Definitely better than Marvin Lewis' post-game locker-room speech:

"Eh .... way to be mediocre gentleman.  But then again, we're the Bengals.  Mediocrity is our destiny.  Enjoy Thanksgiving men, and I look forward to playing Cleveland Sunday and taking another step toward our season goal.  An 8-8 finish.  No matter what, I'll be back for 2019, of course."

11/18/2018 - 9:59pm Pennsylvania is the best…

Pennsylvania is the best state (over the last generation) in terms of producing the highest absolute number of athletes who are All-Americans at the collegiate level.  Ohio & New Jersey are also up there.

Iowa, South Dakota and Wyoming are the best states in terms of producing the highest number of All-Americans at the per-capita level.

Oklahoma was up there but it's fallen off over the last decade.

Geography explains a lot.  The best collegiate programs tend to be where high school wrestling is at its best.

As for Iowa State --- they haven't been a well-run program for nearly all of the 2010s.  Trying to rebuild but that takes a long time.  They were a very good program in the late 2000s with Cael Sanderson as their coach.  But Cael left for PSU in 2009, that was right at a time where ISU was spending $ elsewhere (Gene Chizik left for Auburn and ISU spent a lot of $ to bring in Paul Rhodes).  So ISU couldn't come up with the $ to keep him. 

I wouldn't be shocked to see Cael back at ISU some day: he's still only 39 years old and it is his alma mater.

11/15/2018 - 6:19pm 1 point for 1st place, 2…

1 point for 1st place, 2 points for 2nd place, 3 points for 3rd place, etc.  Throw out each team's slowest 1 or 2 runners (depending on the rules), aggregate up and low score wins the team competition.

11/13/2018 - 3:39pm Last week was a dull week as…

Last week was a dull week as regards movement in the Top 10 ---- I sort of expect UGA (which does have 3 nice wins in a row) to be ranked #4 just for the added "drama" of it all.

And then folk will have something to talk about tomorrow.

Honestly, these week-to-week rankings are dumb IMO.  As 2014 proved, they just change things up at the end as they see fit.


As regards a 12-1 Alabama with a loss to a 12-1 Georgia in the SEC Title Game: I think it's to Michigan's benefit for Oklahoma and Washington State to keep winning and get to 12-1 themselves. 

The committee can quasi-justify leaving one 12-1 conference Champion out (to include Alabama), especially when that one 12-1 Champion has a loss to a team already in the playoff (e.g., the "they had their chance against a team in the playoff" argument can be used)

I'm not saying I agree with that argument - but I can hear it being made.

I think it's hard to keep THREE 12-1 conference Champions out to include Alabama.  Then there are 3 sets of folks bitching and complaining.  They'll be more inclined to include one of them.  And then it becomes more of a direct comparison between U-M, WSU and Oklahoma.

11/13/2018 - 3:35pm Playing Devil's Advocate ---…

Playing Devil's Advocate --- aren't you incenting "margin of victory" in your paragraph on "comparative outcomes of common opponents?"  Which, per the Committee rules, you aren't supposed to do?

ND and Michigan will have one common opponent this year.  In the strictly binary sense (not incenting "margin of victory"): they both beat them.  Even if U-M beats Northwestern 100-0 in Indianapolis, they both will still have basically the same binary results (a neutral-site win theoretically means less that a road-win over Northwestern).

11/13/2018 - 11:10am From my POV --- McMurphy is…

From my POV --- McMurphy is coming off as though he has a personal vendetta here.  I don't see the cover-up with this story.

Now, the August story was legit.  And that story had dramatic side-effects.  (1) Urban has been exposed (further) as a liar with questionable morals, and (2) Zach Smith is destined to live the rest of his life as a known violent loser who won't be able to find a job coaching college football again. 

Unless there truly IS a further "Watergate type story" to break, McMurphy should be moving on from these two.

Besides: Zach is potentially dangerous.  I'm not kidding: he may decide it's time to pay McMurphy a "personal visit."  McMurphy shouldn't be playing with that sort of fire here.

11/12/2018 - 2:31pm Dickerson was good on…

Dickerson was good on Michigan football/WJR back then.

I think he also did some fill-in radio games on WWJ during the late 80s/early 90s, that weird time when both WJR and WWJ would broadcast Michigan football on radio.  Dale Conquest (the name came to me) was the primary WWJ play-by-play guy then.

11/12/2018 - 2:05pm That was FOX --- they…

That was FOX in 1995 --- they decided to have Terry Bradshaw and Jimmy Johnson do an Arizona @ San Diego game late in the year.  Arizona was absolutely awful that year but the Chargers were hanging around the fringes of the AFC playoff race.  So the game mattered, and it was also a national broadcast: one of those December Saturday afternoon games the NFL used to have.

As you said, it was AWFUL.  Each tried play-by-play, and stumbled all over the place.

11/12/2018 - 1:51pm That one!  For a few months…

That one!  For a few months right out of college, I lived in an apartment off that exit.

As I've read, I-75 takes those 3 big curves through Troy because that's where land acquisition was cheapest when the highway was being built. 

But the result was an alignment which leads to a bunch of immature jokes.  :-)

11/12/2018 - 12:30pm Only one Michigan interstate…

Only one Michigan interstate was designed such that mile marker 69 lined up that way.

11/11/2018 - 4:07pm Good post.

FWIW, Harbaugh…

Good post.

FWIW, Harbaugh was 2-1 vs. Ash in that era (2004-2006).  Those 2, plus Dayton, were the best teams in the Pioneer in those years.

11/11/2018 - 1:55pm Louisville's an interesting…

Louisville's an interesting job.  There are some structural elements that make success possible, but there are some structural elements that make success tough.

UL is most analogous to Cincinnati, Houston and Memphis: a big public city school that is clearly not the most popular such program in their state, but is fairly close (and probably higher for UL) to "parity in fan support" to "big state University" within the city itself.

But unlike Cinci, Houston and Memphis - UL made it into the Power 5.  And they also play in a city with no other Pro Sports.  They benefit from being the only game in town.

But then again, UL is in Kentucky.  Kentucky is a nice state, I used to live there.  But it's not one of the more important American states and UL already ranks 2nd within that state.

But then again, UL has some positives in recruiting.  Louisville HS football is rather good.  Playing in the ACC, they are a credible option for Florida and Mid-Atlantic kids.  They're at the geographical interface of the South and Midwest - they can get kids from either area and it won't necessarily be a dramatic culture shock.

It really depends on the coach at UL.  They really haven't had any middle-of-the-road coaches.  Their very good (John L, Charlie Strong) and great (Schnellenberger, Petrino version 1.0) coaches have leveraged the good aspects of the job.  Their bad (Ron Cooper, Kragthorpe) coaches couldn't find a way to rise above the structural barriers associated w/ UL, and then those barriers defined their Cardinal career.

If I'm Brohm - I take the job and have faith that I can become the next great UL coach.  Others have proven it's very possible there.

11/11/2018 - 11:00am The Ravens need an identity…

The Ravens need an identity change --- they are the most "8-8" franchise in the league right now.  

In a word, the Ravens are ...... "unremarkable."

Harbaugh's a good coach, so he'll get NFL HC offers in the future.  But a change is probably for the best.

11/10/2018 - 12:33am I'm sure you recall --- OSU…

I'm sure you recall --- OSU beat Pittsburgh 72-0 in 1996 and as part of the rout returned a punt for a touchdown ..............

with 8 men on the field (to the Panthers 11).

11/09/2018 - 4:55pm The spread is 39 and the…

The spread is 39 and the over/under is 47 1/2.

I've certainly never seen quite anything like that before.  That's a very tight window for any brave souls that want to parlay Michigan and the under.

Screw it --- I'll throw a few bucks on it.  It'll be a good gambling story some day if I actually win.  :-)

11/08/2018 - 8:46pm Good post --- you are doing…

Good post --- IMO, you are doing things right IMO from a methodology POV.  "Strength of resume" should incorporate the advanced analytics somehow (e.g., exactly how good is that team you beat or lost too), while also (2) grading only on a "binary won or loss basis", while not considering MOV.

My own ratings that try do the same thing you are trying - basically the same results.  Exact same top #12, just a handful of teams flip-flopped by 1 spot.

11/08/2018 - 3:29pm I knew before opening that…

I knew before opening that Steve Piloti wrote that article.

He's been hung up on Rutgers getting less of a revenue share (at least until 2020) vs. their B1G conference mates.  That's NOT the conference's fault.  Rutgers agreed to the terms, and they did because they would have been foolish to not accept.

Besides, Rutgers isn't really good at anything.  You'd figure there would be some non-revenue sport where they compete near the top of the conference.  That really doesn't happen.

Johns Hopkins and Notre Dame have more B1G Championships than Rutgers.