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01/24/2019 - 12:10pm in every public appearance i…

in every public appearance i've seen, he comes across fairly standoffish and perhaps a bit detached. Do you think there's a component that he's just a bad interviewer and not getting teams excited about bringing him on?

I understand we're all trying to 86 him, but he has a ton of experience at every level, I'm surprised he didn't get SOME kind of offer from SOMEBODY.

Or with his generous UM contract maybe he's being choosy..about programs or seniority/coaching level or money. Doesn't want to be a HC at a MAC school maybe for half as much cash in a town like Muncie. 

01/10/2019 - 4:44pm found on twitter, unverified…

found on twitter, unverified guy who calls himself a spartan insider but may not be

A source is telling me that Michigan’s QB coach Pep Hamilton could possibly be coming to East Lansing based on the offer Michigan State presents. I’m unable to confirm this at this point. More to come.

— SpartanCenter Network (@SpartanCenterig) January 10, 2019
01/10/2019 - 4:38pm So our offensive staff:
- HC…

So our offensive staff:
- HC / QB Whisperer
- AHC / QB coach / Pass Game Coordinator / playcaller
- OC / WR guy / reported playcaller

Seems like some overlap here. 

bye Pep

(i know there's also Jaybaugh and Ed W)

01/08/2019 - 2:03pm probably just a good career…

probably just a good career opp for washington, but i hope it doesn't portend a don brown exit as well. as in, he thinks brown is on his way out so he went ahead and took the job

01/02/2019 - 3:50pm Michigan football has been…

Michigan football has been hoping for a return to greatness since 1997.

It's ironic - and feels really gut-wrenching - that it wasn't RichRod, Dave Brandon, or Brady Hoke that finally put the nail in the coffin of this ever-loving hope of Michigan fans.

Nope, it wasn't those guys. It was the savior, the bleeding blue Michigan Man himself. It was Jim Harbaugh - the anointed one, who sent Brian and thousands of others into the football abyss and the waiting arms of John Beilein. 

How could that be? How could Harbaugh have killed the hope of Michigan Football more than all these other yahoos? I guess it's because of his previous success, the unbridled enthusiasm and expectation, the outsized presence - that hasn't gotten us over the hump. 

But it's not only that. It's also that Harbaugh is 100% the template that Michigan wants to succeed. Michigan has deflated us because we realize we got exactly what we wanted in Harbaugh and it hasn't been good enough to get there. Bo-ball, or at least JH's manifestation of it, doesn't seem to do the job anymore.

Another realization that hurts is seeing that Harbaugh is flawed. He's very good, but not perfect. He makes some strange play calls, seems to have a hard time adapting, recruits well but loses most of the biggest battles, and struggles with clock management at times. Every coach and every system has flaws, the thing about Harbaugh's is that it has so little room for error, and just a couple of misses can cost you the season. It's like we want the Harbaugh system, but we want somebody else to execute it better.  

We are forced to confront the idea that Michigan must change. Offensive style, recruiting style, local weather patterns, institutional integrity, coaching staff, or whatever else, if we really want to be the best. It's the final realization that the Michigan Way doesn't lead to very many championships. We wanted Harbaugh, and Harball, we got them, and now it's not good enough. We are the little league parents who yelled from the stands for the coach to put our kid in to save the game, and when he did, the kid struck out. 

All that said, I'm still pro-Harbaugh. Appears to run a clean program. Cares a lot about Michigan, and may eventually break through. I hope he stays a long time. If he brings home a Natty, it will feel very good. But I also hope he can adapt some way, somehow, to give us a fighting chance. 

12/12/2018 - 2:23pm would you even take the job…

would you even take the job if you learned you were the 3rd favorite candidate and only got the offer when the other two bowed out? maybe if you're a young pup trying to make your mark and get into the head coaching ranks.

but for DB, who is 63, financially set, and has nothing to prove, I would think it's thanks but no thanks. 

I guess unless he really really wants to be a head coach before he retires.

12/04/2018 - 2:41pm this is actually what i…

this is actually what i expected after the board of directors standoff in the offseason. coming out with a 3 game suspension and it seemed like Drake wasn't having it, I thought it seemed like he'd be done after the season. 

12/03/2018 - 1:28pm sometimes i wonder why they…

sometimes i wonder why they keep going, even for millions of dollars a year, I think the relocations every 2-3 years would eventually get tiresome. 

fire me a couple times and i'll take my multi-million dollar bank account and retire somewhere 


guess i'm not D1 Football coach material

12/03/2018 - 1:26pm i looked at tickets for the…

i looked at tickets for the saturday game on stubhub on saturday afternoon and the cheapest was $44. 

i am happy michigan is an elite team but it's just a little saturday afternoon game. Being over $100 for 2 people after tickets, fees, food, parking just felt like too much

just one data point. if others willing to pay, then great. 

12/03/2018 - 1:23pm i didn't know Gonzaga was…

i didn't know Gonzaga was good at football.

12/03/2018 - 9:29am i can't make threads but i…

i can't make threads but i would love to see a Jim Mcelwain appreciation thread. seems like he did a good job w/ receivers this year, was always destined to be 1-and-done at UM and contributed what we needed him to. 

Also he was wise to stay out of the discussion about offensive strategy and playcalling every time he  was asked. "it's jim's offense, i just coach the receivers and do what i'm told" smart move.

12/03/2018 - 9:27am i prefer to keep my dollars…

i prefer to keep my dollars but i agree with you. seems like candidate #3 out of 3.  Also interviewed around last year and got no jobs.

I would bet a signed dollar that he's not a great interviewer, at least for HC positions. he has that standoffish, sort of blase persona, not real charming.  

12/03/2018 - 9:24am how about roundtree for…

how about roundtree for offensive analyst?

12/03/2018 - 9:22am wonder if Bo would have…

wonder if Bo would have stood for these decisions.  the team the team the (new) team

11/27/2018 - 10:08am it's really hard for me to…

it's really hard for me to agree with your conclusion. you're basically saying we get whipped by OSU because they have better talent, which happens because of various institutional reasons. 


but i think inertia plays an enormous role. once a juggernaut becomes a juggernaut (bama, clemson) they have a recruiting advantage with or without bagmen. the celebrity of playing football at Bama or Clemson goes well beyond getting a wad of bills under the table.  the whole culture at these places worships football and winning. and that draws in the best recruits. Because they want to win championships and be stars. 

Michigan supports football with an enormous budget and effort but the nature of UM means it's not worshipped like it is at Bama or some of the Big 12 schools. it's not as big of a privilege to play for harbaugh as it is for saban or dabo (or meyer, sorry to say).  

also i think we got stomped saturday by getting outcoached moreso than outplayed. our guys on D are competitive, it's not just a talent gap, it was a schematic win for OSU I think. 

so i don't think throwing away our integrity would get the job done, at least not right away. it would still take time to build the mystique that these other guys have at their schools. 

11/26/2018 - 1:13pm i can't make new posts, so…

i can't make new posts, so will drop here some of the consequences of saturday's debacle.

- sadly the broyles award is probably off the table

- urban meyer looked fine on the sidelines. Does this victory energize him to stay, or does it make it easier to go out with the 7-0 record vs. michigan? 

- i actually think this is bad for the Big Ten and the CFP conversation. Makes us look like a slightly-below-the-SEC conference that just beats up on each other but doesn't deserve any special consideration for the CFP. have seen this in the Men's BB tournament seedings in the past too. I'd guess the committee would leave out OSU in favor of GA or OK given their bad loss and few not-great wins vs. mediocre teams. OSU probably deserves to be in but I wouldn't be surprised if they get passed over. 

- good news, if this means Don Brown spends 365 mornings waking up planning to destroy OSU next year like he did about PSU this year, I'm already hyped about it. 

- wonder what becomes of Pep. I saw a suggestion he may go out and get another gig vs. getting fired. trouble is he reportedly did some interviews last year and didn't land anything. I wonder if he's not a great interviewer. 

- harbaugh didn't make any statements after OSU that tell us his true plans like last year's "we need to get stronger" stuff. wonder if he was just shellshocked and has to work through what happened to make a plan.

- really think Shea has an issue under-throwing his receivers. don't see him as an NFL lock, wonder if he will stay as previously reported. 

- loved that joe milton bomb on saturday. 

11/26/2018 - 12:45pm harbaugh subdued. last year…

harbaugh subdued. last year after the OSU loss is when he said we needed to get stronger etc. and hired herbert and made coaching moves.


this year it feels like he brought his A game and got smoked and has no answers (yet).

11/26/2018 - 12:39pm agree, we didn't expect OSU…

agree, we didn't expect OSU to fall apart during the season. they got it back together on saturday, that's for sure. meyer looked fine, too, by the way. 

11/26/2018 - 12:37pm good luck Rashan. I could…

good luck Rashan. I could never figure out if he was as good as advertised at UM. Maybe he was awesome but I don't know enough about his position to know.  Seemed like I didn't hear his name a lot about having huge games. 

11/26/2018 - 12:33pm i finally, after 4 years of…

i finally, after 4 years of shopping and waiting, bought a new tv, and drove 25 miles to a store that had it in stock, so i could get it set up in time for this game.  now i have a new tv for the Toilet Bowl.

guy called into WTKA this morning to point out the amazing goal line stands by Michigan's D in the game, and to his credit Sam shut that sh** down. "I don't know how that's your takeaway from this game." 

11/21/2018 - 10:32am I like that they kept trying…

I like that they kept trying to get Shea to dish on Chase's status. can't fault them for trying to get a scoop out of old roomie. 


however I don't like that they ask questions about how much he cares about the rivalry as a transfer.  he puts on the GD winged helmet, gives his best, he's a Michigan Man.  He'll be ready for the game. 

11/20/2018 - 4:44pm no politics but i voted for…

no politics but i voted for those two trustees on the hope they'd wreak havoc on the MSU board and start cleaning house at MSU

11/20/2018 - 4:41pm i still live in a world in…

i still live in a world in my head where you can lie to the cops - if it's not under oath it's ok.

this is not the case in the real world

11/20/2018 - 12:30pm After 4 years of this I…

After 4 years of this I should be used to it, but I still can't help but think Harbaugh could be a little more amiable in these things. I get there are a lot of bad questions, but Harbaugh is the $7M man, surely he could steer a conversation toward something that's more interesting.

It would probably benefit him too, because if he just played the part of an amped up rivalry week Michigan coach, he could put an end to all the questions about The Game's meaning, importance, value, priority. It's easy to see how the press gets a narrative about this being like any other game when Harbaugh plays this so unconvincingly.  

I read sick Urban's presser too and he engaged way more with the media than Harbaugh. Meyer even told Woody and Bo stories, talked about how they couldn't coach the same way today but would have adjusted because they're brilliant. Talked about the more prepared team winning, how you prepare differently than you do for a team that's not as good, and how they're putting in a ton of extra hours to prepare. Easy to sense he's all in for this game, even if it's his last, or even if his head actually explodes on the sideline. 

Harbaugh could easily make these pressers way more tolerable if he wanted to. obviously he doesn't care to, and it doesn't matter because his job is to coach football and win games, not win a daytime emmy. but he could shape the media narrative if he played it up a little more. 

"what would it mean to win?"

"a lot."


11/20/2018 - 11:26am i felt way more confident…

i felt way more confident about this until we struggled a bit with Indiana. 

however, I don't think Karan's guarantee is a nothingburger. The team will rally around him and use it as an extra boost to make good on his baited promise. 

11/20/2018 - 11:22am easy one, you can bet there…

easy one, you can bet there will be about a thousand practice kicks this week from all conceivable distances and placements and the coaches will go with whoever does the best in practice and in warmups. 

11/20/2018 - 11:14am i wasn't always a michigan…

i wasn't always a michigan fan, i grew up elsewhere in flyover country. but even before my UM days, I lived a summer in a Columbus suburb and was shocked at how pretentious and shitty the OSU faithful were, in spite of their poopy campus and stadium. I developed my hatred of OSU completely independently of my UM allegiance -


all this to say, their shit objectively stinks, doesn't take a wolverine to tell! F OSU!

11/19/2018 - 4:33pm Fking great, now the team…

Fking great, now the team will be playing this weekend for his legacy or some sh** 


thanks cowherd.


(btw i wouldn't be surprised in the least, i think drake is still holding his trump card after the board forced the 3 game suspension and the ryan day coach in waiting rumor was the writing on the wall)

11/14/2018 - 1:48pm I don't understand the…

I don't understand the complaint here.

Michigan is -28 vs. Indiana and -was 37 at Rutger.



11/12/2018 - 11:41am just kills me that don brown…

just kills me that don brown can't get that shutout this year - he keeps getting close to it. 

11/12/2018 - 11:40am man the psyche changes fast…

man the psyche changes fast around here. just the other day we were saying the committee was dying to put us above ND. now it's we're going to get jumped by Ga, OU, and 3 other SEC teams because we only beat RU by 35 with half the team sitting out. 

i hate to be that guy, but let's just win and let those things work themselves out. can't control it anyway.

maybe should not have scheduled ND opener on the road this year. If that game was Army/App St/some other cupcake we'd be undefeated and unquestioned top 4. would be Bama, Clemson, Michigan/ND. 

11/08/2018 - 10:52am dragged the field goal unit…

dragged the field goal unit. i have no issue with it but just surprised, usually they keep that sort of criticism off camera

11/07/2018 - 5:10pm Staging not the same as…

Staging not the same as production. A guaranteed bad time .


Fix this problem first 

11/07/2018 - 3:56pm i never was those other…

i never was those other troll accounts, although i admit to getting dragged into the chicanery a bit. got my other account whacked at 499 points. 

still here, starting from scratch. 

go points!

11/07/2018 - 11:08am hard for them to do so, but…

hard for them to do so, but i'd put money on michigan beating ND easily  if we played them again now. 

11/07/2018 - 11:07am i agree with this. i'm not…

i agree with this. i'm not worried about bama losing the sec championship game, and i really think it will be tough for any team to beat them in the CFP. they probably win out, they are a juggernaut, it's sad but true. 

but Michigan's D is so good that we are one team that might have a chance and i would love to see them get a shot at Bama too. Our defense has shut down some productive teams this year both in the air and on the ground.  Beat 3 ranked opponents, may end up with 4, kept it close with ND, it's a legit shot that they put the hurt on bama too. Michigan's style makes tough opponents look not so tough. After playing Michigan, people say, "maybe MSU/PSU/Wisc aren't as good as we thought."  In the worst case, this negatively affects the committee's opinion the B1G and Michigan's strength of schedule/win quality.  But you have to think the committee will pick up on this and recognize Michigan's style plays a part in the optics of the wins.

Even if there's an SEC bias, which there certainly is, picking a 1-loss non-conf champ Bama over a 1-loss B1G champ Michigan would be riots in the streets, when the losses would be roughly equivalent (each team losing to another playoff team). It would be the end of the 4-team CFP format. (actually, maybe this is what the committee wants - to make an example out of a deserving team to justify a CFP expansion and associated $$$$. sheeeeeeeiitttt sorry Michigan). 

anyway, too many thoughts in one reply, but i think 1. would love to see UM's D get a shot at Alabama and 2. Hard for me to see Michigan getting left out with their resume in favor of a conference runner-up with same record

11/06/2018 - 1:09pm I assume Peters transfers. …

I assume Peters transfers.  If Shea comes back, do Dylan and Milton both stay?

11/06/2018 - 12:14pm i agree, 3 years of…

i agree, 3 years of inconsistent offense have me guarding my trust carefully despite the strong overall performance this year.

i still worry that just a couple of busted covers from Don Brown's unit could put Michigan on its heels offensively and keep us to 24 points.

may or may not be realistic but i'm still stuck in BPONE

11/06/2018 - 12:12pm honestly doesn't sound like…

honestly doesn't sound like peters is going to see the field unless necessary. 9 games into the season and there's still a backup qb competition? with a true freshman. 

in every public comment for a while now i just sense that there's some sort of personality clash between peters and harbaugh/pep. i could be wrong. but it just doesn't seem like they want BP in there.


11/05/2018 - 3:46pm Even at this point I have a…

Even at this point I have a hard time trusting UM's offense to consistently perform. Im so damaged by the ups and downs of the previous couple years   So I'd risk no more than 10-15. 

11/01/2018 - 2:53pm for waking up thinking about…

for waking up thinking about this game for a year you'd think he'd know the players' names. 

j/k i love this man. that odor emanating from Schembechler Hall is all the testosterone that Don Brown and Harbaugh emanate all over the place when they get in the same room. 

11/01/2018 - 2:46pm Never expected that the OSU…

Never expected that the OSU Board of Trustees would only be the third most feckless, worthless, corrupt university board of 2018. 


10/30/2018 - 9:16pm Seems to me the groundwork…

Seems to me the groundwork is being laid for his departure after this season. 

- coach in waiting

- tension with his bosses

- cyst causing headaches

I think he's going to walk.

10/23/2018 - 12:26pm i'm not getting optimistic…

i'm not getting optimistic about the game. i'm not getting optimistic.  i'm not getting. i'm not. i'm.




10/23/2018 - 12:06pm Michigan's game-to-game…

Michigan's game-to-game performance over the past few years has been too variable for me to get too excited about a computer model. On average, week 8 Michigan might beat Week 8 OSU by 20 if we play them a hundred times, but Michigan's just not consistent enough, the standard deviation is probably 35

10/23/2018 - 11:43am I honestly had a feeling…

I honestly had a feeling when Meyer was suspended that Drake may have another trick up his sleeve after the season.  The rumor about the "coach in waiting" thing might be revealing. The UM version of that rumor is "Michigan working on lifetime contract for JMFH"

It's quite obvious that Meyer felt like the school didn't back him up, made him take the fall, and THEN made him go out and do those humiliating interviews / apologies, and he didn't think he deserved that treatment.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he moves on after this year. Also wouldn't be surprised if he is back next year with an axe to grind. who knows. but i do know that all the strife about it will hurt the team.

10/23/2018 - 11:14am fucking great. so now it's…

fucking great. so now it's going to be nick saban coaching OSU? 

10/23/2018 - 11:08am i actually agree, far too…

i actually agree, far too many headlines since saturday focused on harbaugh and dantonio's comments on the matter vs. michigan's beatdown of those poopholes on the field.

10/22/2018 - 3:05pm…

"He's made progress. He practiced last week, but didn't feel like he could play in the game," Harbaugh said. "We get to travel 74 guys. We take the 74 who are in uniform and could potentially play in the game."

When asked if Gary could potentially sit out the rest of the season, Harbaugh was blunt and short.

"I don't know," he said.

He was then asked again if it was the coaching staff's call or the trainer's decision to sit Gary.

"Rashan decided that he wouldn't be able to play in Saturday's game," Harbaugh said curtly.


sounds like coach ain't happy about it (just reading between lines)

10/22/2018 - 11:55am as much as i hate ohio state…

as much as i hate ohio state, i don't think that turn of phrase is called for. meyer looks ill because the zach smith thing took a toll on a fragile narcissist? there are probably about 50 things to look at in the OSU program besides meyer's anxiety level that would fix issues.

reminder we did the same thing last year about harbaugh.  "harbaugh looks and sounds miserable. maybe it's his hip/leg, see him limping? maybe it's his kid at home who might be ill. maybe it's his marriage, maybe he doesn't want to coach here anymore. etc. etc."

or maybe harbaugh knew the team and coaching staff was not in a great place last year and it was a lost year in his mind.  maybe meyer knows his team is having a dip and he's reacting the same way.