Check in if you’re already over it

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F*** 2017. F*** that bowl game. It’s over. It’s done. Next year will be much better! The players will be faster, stronger, and smarter. The coaches will call better games. 2018 will be a team we can all be proud of! 8-5 will be this regime’s floor. Not 3-9. Not 4-8. 8-5 is as low as we go, and we just got through it! Sign in if you’re optimistic, because the alternative is for losers! GO BLUE REGARDLESS!

Supa Hot Fire

January 2nd, 2018 at 10:23 PM ^

Personally, the loss to South Carolina was dissapointing and a failure, but not that emotionally taxing being a bowl game. I have faith we can improve for next year and get back on track. For now though, it's on to our quietly improving basketball team. Go Blue!

South TX MFan

January 2nd, 2018 at 10:36 PM ^

At first I was pissed. Then I realized the loss might be a good thing. Getting embarrassed on a national stage by losing a game to a team we shouldn't be losing to and becoming the only Big10 team to lose their bowl game might just be the kick in the balls Harbaugh needs to go through with shaking up the staff like it needs to be.

BlueBruke

January 2nd, 2018 at 11:01 PM ^

Some of us take longer to grieve than others. The whole issue is expectations. It was not realistic to think that a team this young was going to be a  national championship contender. 

 

They won't be a contender until they can run and pass block. Once they can do that they will be fun to watch again.

 

Couzen Rick's

January 2nd, 2018 at 11:01 PM ^

If I made it through 2008 and 2009, and not to mention 2014 when I was a student, this is nothing. I love my school, I love Harbaugh, let's fucking do this. Forever Go Blue. 2018 is the year. If not then 2019 or 20. Maybe 2037. Whatever. I'll be with this team regardless.

BlueLava009

January 2nd, 2018 at 11:19 PM ^

Honestly, I was over it after Rich Rod.  The fact we took a guy like Hoke, ever, was a joke.  (My first poem of 2018)  Great Man, Great Michigan man, but was not and never will be a big time head coach.  That was a sad day.  Im just in waiting mode now, waiting for Michigan to come back....Go Blue always, Go Coach Go Harbaugh, Ill root always but Im not emotionally invested right now. 

wolverinebutt

January 2nd, 2018 at 11:21 PM ^

Weaknesses seem like many 

-OL, QB, RB's can't block, young WR's were a HUGE disappointment, D giving up big plays against top teams, O play calling was disjointed, D needs some zone mixed in or some other calls besides 99 percent pressure which is to predictable against top teams.   

I still loyal, but I'm worried about next year after this bowl game disaster.  We looked like a poor high school team in the second half.  

 

 

mgobaran

January 3rd, 2018 at 9:07 AM ^

I agree the older WRs were a huge disappointment, but youth be youth.

Grant Perry - Invisible, maybe injury related?
Kekoa Crawford - Should be 5th string heading into next year
McDoom - Didn't expect much more from him but he provided zero improvement
Black - Exceeded expectations early and often, then injured.
DPJ - on track, would have shined brighter with decent QB play
Collins - needed RS, but promising
Martin - RS, tbd
Schoenle - Walk-on status shined brighter than spring/practice hype. 

Everyone under McDoom was a freshman. McDoom/Crawford are true sophomores and can still take a giant step forward in their progression, especially if a position coach is hired. 

Der Alte

January 3rd, 2018 at 11:32 AM ^

some vintage Schembechler teams. The mindset was "we'll run the ball down your throat --- we have the line and the running backs to do it, and there's nothing you can do about it."

Georgia's primarily a running team. This past season Georgia's RBs, Nick Chubb and Sony Michel, combined for 2,123 rushing yards; Monday night Georgia had over 200 rushing yards against a good defense. If you watched the game, some of the holes the Georgia O-line opened were so wide an old guy with a cane in one hand and a football in the other could have made positive yardage. Yet Oklahoma couldn't crowd the line because Georgia's true-freshman QB with the laser arm would shred their secondary, as he did on a number of occasions. 
 
I'm as loyal an M fan as anyone. But the daunting prospect next September is of Peters, in what would be his fifth start, or McCaffrey in his first start, or Patterson (if eliglble) in not only his first start but his first game with the M playbook, in South Bend looking across his (again reconstituted) O-line at the Notre Dame defense.
 
And ND's only the first of at least five other opponents who won big-time bowl games this past season. Yes, the Michgan D will again be elite, but as we saw in Tampa, they can't do it alone. Not to restate the obvious, but 2018 will be a challenging season.

 

Hard-Baughlls

January 2nd, 2018 at 11:52 PM ^

Loaded team, talented enough for the playoff - Iowa loss and OSU robbery were brutal.

We underachieved last year, no way to rationalize it.  Harbaugh is a good coach, and has been incredibly unlucky in a few games...the Punt 6, and last year's OSU.

Luck reverts to the mean - he will start to get the breaks.  Better we have shit luck, turnovers, and dumb mistakes now (this year) than in games that matter when we are competing for championships again.

We had the YOUNGEST team in college football this year, coupled with QB issues and injuries.  If people are shitting on Harbaugh about this year, it's just dumb.  Yes, with some more creativity and better coaching we could have won 10 games - but once again, he took the youngest team in CFB and had them within 1 possession in the 4th quarter of every game outside of gettting hammered by PSU.

3 years and we've been outclassed twice by superior teams, OSU 2015 and PSU 2017. Let that sink in, and realize that the ball will start to bounce our way once we have a QB making plays and some juniors and seniors on the field again.  This program is in great hands.

I promise all of you, we will not be committing 5 turnovers a game going forward (MSU / South Carolina) as the youth develops.  Stay the course, Harbaugh will win with solid teams, we don't need luck or smoke and mirrors.

 

Hard-Baughlls

January 3rd, 2018 at 12:05 AM ^

Not a bunch of 5 stars all panning out.  It's one of the most unique and important position groups on the field in that way.  Sometimes a bunch of 3 to 4 star guys just start clicking on timing and pickups and just roll teams - other times a bunch of 5 stars just cant get it together and look disjointed.

Our current O-line now has some playing time together and will continue to develop.  Harbaugh and Drevno figured it out at Stanford - give them the benefit of the doubt here.  It's year 3 and he bottomed out at 8 wins with, again, the youngest team in the country.

If you think a guy as competitive as Harbaugh, with all that talent and coaching salaries on the staff, is going to let this ship sink, I think you are placing a poor bet.

We will not do better than Harbaugh.  We can, however, upgrade at position coaches on the offensive side of the ball - and I expect him to do exactly that.

 

Mforever

January 3rd, 2018 at 1:07 AM ^

Harbaugh has had 3 years to develop a functioning oline and failed and the last 2 years each team has regressed Poor clock management, unimaginative play calling, bad QB play and poor run blocking have been the hallmark of Harbaughs tenure so far. Harbaugh isnt being paid 9 mil a year to keep the ship from sinking. Hes getting paid to compete for National titles. You bring up the youth excuse, Michigab State was just as young, decimated by attrition, yet they beat us again and improved game to game and look like favorite to win the East next year Most here are predicting a 4-5 loss season. Maybe Harbaugh fell inlove with his own press clipping, because for as competitive as he is, it doesnt substitute for scheme and game planning, which seem to be one if his weaknesses

newtopos

January 3rd, 2018 at 12:23 AM ^

The fanbase and program have given him incredible amounts of resources and support.  He was the perfect candidate and the stars aligned to bring him here.  Going forward, it will all depend on him.  Does he take the approach he did on defense (hire the best guys for the job, based on their resume, even if he hasn't worked with them before) or does he take the approach he has largely done so far on offense, hiring people he knows who are former NFL coaches, who have not adapted to the college game, who do not have a track record of success in the college game, and who have little interest (or skill) in recruiting?  If he sticks to the latter, it is unlikely that even consistent top-10 or top-20 defenses will be able to counterbalance just how bad our offenses will be.  We have institutional/structural limitations that prevent us from being on the level of Alabama or Georgia consistently (much less in-state talent, we don't cheat in recruiting, higher academic standards, etc.), but without a change to how we approach offensive coaching (and recruiting by the offensive staff), I don't see Harbaugh having the Bo-like tenure that could be attainable, that most of the fanbase would be happy with, and that he might want as well.

BayWolves

January 3rd, 2018 at 7:51 AM ^

Was over it as soon as the game ended. If you saw all of our freshmen and first time starters all over the field then you can only be encouraged by what you saw this past season. 8 games with that low level of experience and multiple key injuries means we destroy everyone on the schedule next year.

Josh9676

January 3rd, 2018 at 8:36 AM ^

Over the bowl game? Sure, I was over that 5 minutes after the game. OK with the direction that this team is headed? Absolutely not. Next year is going to be brutal, I fully expect 7-8 wins unless some MAJOR changes happen on the offensive side of the ball. If anybody thinks this off season is going to be bad just wait until next year if we only win 7 games.

L'Carpetron Do…

January 3rd, 2018 at 9:36 AM ^

EXORCISE THESE DEMONS.

I'm very over it.  Fuck all this shit.   Harbaugh should play the "What is best in life?" from Conan the Barbarian over and over until it's embedded in these kids' heads.  We've been the victims far too long - now let's be the VICTORS!  It's TIME TO WIN AGAIN!

2018: The Year of Scorched Earth.

andrew_

January 3rd, 2018 at 9:44 AM ^

I'll be over it and tuned out if no real change is affected. And to me that means a firing of Drevno at the very least. If that doesn't happen, I'm done with next year and I'll check back in around late October to see how they're doing. After the "lost decade" and this roller coaster ride, I need a beather.

MHWolverine

January 3rd, 2018 at 10:34 AM ^

Moving on from a rough 2017 season! 

The Team will use this season to learn a lot from and improve in every way! I have very high hopes for 2018 and I like the way Michigan's schedule is set up. They start off getting thrown in the fire and I think that's exactly what they need. Hers's to a loooong and boring off-seaon and winter, I can't wait for the 2018 season to start!! Go Blue!! 

Steve-a-wolverine-o

January 3rd, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^

Can I still throw a bunch of shit in the crybabies faces when we can finally have nice things again. Also, thanks for this thread. Love me some Michigan football. I thoroughly enjoyed this year. Yeah maybe the big game outcomes were not ideal but the Saturday mornings and afternoons with my Michigan family or at home by myself just cold chillin’. Can’t beat that. Great entertainment. Can’t wait for next year! Looking forward to considerable improvement and overall success in the entertaining me realm. If people aren’t entertained, why do they watch?

ArthGuinness

January 3rd, 2018 at 11:26 AM ^

Still embarrassed, but it's not occupying my every thought. I am predicting 11.5 total wins next year (yeah, yeah, not enough of a spine to pick a solid integer).

GoBlueSean

January 3rd, 2018 at 11:51 AM ^

I am ready for next season but will never forget how sh*tty our QB's played and the lack of fire from everyone this season.  Hopefully we can be the next Georgia, please just let our QB complete a pass and not look like he is afraid of EVERYTHING

uncleFred

January 3rd, 2018 at 12:37 PM ^

Team will be fine. Growth will continue. Barring devistating injuries, 2018, despite the away schedule, will result in a better record. Harbaugh will address coaching issues over the next month or so.

This season will be the floor of Harbaugh's time at Michigan.

Go Blue! 

mac

January 3rd, 2018 at 12:54 PM ^

The old lady (>60yo) yelling at me in the Tampa airport this morning (Wednesday) was definitely not over it.
Her (yelling): Aren’t you embarrassed to be wearing that (points to my maize Michigan sweatshirt), it’s so embarrassing.
Me: Nope, never (shakes my head and walks away)
Her: No, no, I’m a Michigan fan too (trails off, not sure what she says after that, I walk away)

I only wish I had my guard up more to tell her that she is what’s wrong with the program, not the players/coaches/team. I was too stunned and tired to really fire back.

Blue in PA

January 3rd, 2018 at 2:29 PM ^

As long as no one publishes a magazine cover showing Harbaugh in a tux and Shea in a wedding dress....... it'll probably be ok.