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12/22/2018 - 4:29pm "And probably not much…

"And probably not much difference in whether you're ranked #5 in the recruiting rankings or #25. "

Perhaps not  much difference between #5 and #10, but there is a very significant difference between #5 and #25. Look at the number of top (say) 100 players that get distributed across the teams in ranked in the top ten and then look at how many are left to the next fifteen teams. 

"Michigan easily had the talent to compete over the last 7-8 years."

Undeniably true. 

12/04/2018 - 12:27pm I’ve been watching the ESPN…

I’ve been watching the ESPN coverage of Urban’s retirement. IMHO he’s been forced out. Announcing his retirement at this point completely disrupts OSU’s recuiting. If he was just retiring WHY announce it this way? 



11/25/2018 - 8:18pm I've purposefully stayed…

I've purposefully stayed away from the blog since Saturday, because I knew full well just how insane and defeatist this place would become. So having allowed the angst to cool a bit I have a couple points to make:

First a caveat. There is nothing in football that I hate more than losing to OSU. Absolutely nothing. So I'm not remotely interested in looking for rainbows after this loss, but I do think that some perspective is in order. 

1: Despite this loss, and losing various QBs for stretches last season, Harbaugh has won 38 games in the last four years, 39 if he wins the bowl game. It's been a damn long time since the program has had that kind of record. As disappointing as Saturday was, the program hasn't had this kind of overall success since Carr. 

2: We can agree to disagree about RichRod's qualities as a coach, but we all must acknowledge that he was a terrible fit for the Michigan football program and the results of that lack of fit was to blow a massive hole in recruiting and retention in the most fragile positions on the team. Hoke made "some" progress in fixing this, especially on the defense, but the hole was too deep and retention problems persisted. Harbaugh has made progress, but we are still shallow on the lines and young in places that we need to be seasoned. 

This is a very good football team. For all the complaints about Pep, this is an outstanding coaching staff. Sadly elite comes hard. Very very very hard. Michigan is a historically elite football program that has stumbled, and it stumbled when other Big Ten programs were rising.

I've been an active fan since the early 60s, so I've lived through this kind of adversity before, until a coach named Bo reset the program. 

Yes I sorely wish Saturday had gone the other way. That said, I've lived through what is required to resurrect an elite program. Harbaugh, assuming he stays, will get it done. 

I'm not going to ask for patience, because the fan base lost that in 2009. Juste ask yourselves, who can Michigan hire to coach who would be more suited that Harbaugh, At this point there is no better coach who can fit at Michigan. This will be a long difficult road, but the reality is that there is no one out there who give the program a better shot than Harbaugh. So suck it up buttercups

11/25/2018 - 7:54pm So you're saying that they…

So you're saying that they won 3 but over the ten years Michigan one five and took a tie. Sounds like Michigan won that particular war. 

11/25/2018 - 7:50pm Actually OSU was a…

Actually OSU was a powerhouse in that period, they just lost to Michigan. Bruce never got the rivalry, or if he did he couldn't deliver the wins. 

11/20/2018 - 7:59pm To quote Mr. Bonds

Go Blue!…

To quote Mr. Bonds

Go Blue!

For myself kick the crap out of Ohio.

11/05/2018 - 2:33pm Contrary to your assertion,…

Contrary to your assertion, those of us old enough to remember the 60s and 70s can state that one quality of the Michigan fan base was that we were not fickle. In fact it was the unwillingness to give up on the team that was one of the qualities that set it apart from the fans of other schools.

I think that the rise of anonymous commentary and the ability to trash players not to their faces or the faces of other fans, has contributed to this change. 

09/23/2018 - 12:58am So I’m curious. How many…

So I’m curious. How many whiners are willing to complain about our team’s “Stone Age” offense? 

56 points after two consecutive 40+ point appearances does seem fairly productive. 

I don’t expect this kind of performance against the top teams on the schedule, but this team can beat anyone they face.

08/02/2018 - 9:21pm So here is the scenario as I…

So here is the scenario as I glean it from what passes for the news reports.

There are several years of police visits for abuse during which the aggrieved spouse either refuses to press charges or drops them. Various complaining emails and/or other forms of electronic communication make allegations of abuse, but it never manifests in an actual charge. 

Then in late July this coach is arrested, criminal charges are filed and Meyer fires him. Much as I truly would like to bury Meyer who I think is a massive scumbag, I really do not see a big deal here.

If you fire someone based on innuendo and rumor, you can pretty much assume that you'll get sued and your corporate lawyers will be very unhappy with you. 

Allegations are nothing more than words.

In my opinion Meyer is total scum, but unless something with serious weight comes out, he doesn't deserve to be fired and probably doesn't deserve to be suspended. 


06/12/2018 - 11:45pm I had surgery just prior to…

I had surgery just prior to the change and was off the net for about 3 weeks. I had no idea what was going on. Duh! Damn glad you're back! I'm sure things will get sorted out. 

05/15/2018 - 9:37pm Given the difficult road to get back to just running

I find it amazing that he is so committed to getting back on the field. I wish him the very best and hope he achieves all of his goals.  

05/05/2018 - 12:04am Regardless of any single player’s talent

Football is a team sport. No single player wins a national championship. I’m glad he can play but a championship will require excellence or at least consistently superior play by the rest of the offense and the defense.

He’s a huge get at a position of need, but he can’t do it alone, and it’s unfair to pin our hopes on one guy no matter ho gifted.

05/03/2018 - 9:55pm Thank God thats great!

Just fantastic! Prayers with you and yours. 

05/02/2018 - 8:10pm Odd are you are 100% correct but...

Many years ago when dinosaurs walked the earth and I was barely old enough to ride a bicycle a friend of my parents shattered his upper and lower leg. He owned a ski and summer shop and was on the ski patrol and was in his early 30s. Four kids and his business was just really starting to get off the ground. He took a terrible fall and broke his leg in multiple locations both below and above his knee.

The doctors tell his wife that they're going to have to amputate his leg a few inches below his hip. She says to them "If you think you're going to saddle me with a cripple for the rest of my life you're confused. Set the leg and we'll see what happens". So they set the leg and the bones knitted. A hell of a lot of pain. Several months on crutches and a lot of rehab. Several months with a cane. But two years later he was walking fine and back on skies.

This case is completely different. We know the type of damage that his leg suffered and the impact of the internal trauma to his leg. But despite all the massive advances in medical knowledge and the diagnostic tools available to the docs, unexpected recoveries remain possible. So while I have no expectation that he'll ever see the field in anything other than an arranged appearance, I'll still hold out hope that he makes a truly complete recovery, and if he chooses to, returns to the game as a starter before he leaves the university.

05/02/2018 - 4:26pm Just as there were the Tuskegee Airmen

The 761 Tank Battalion was an African-American unit that served with distinction during WWII. They were known as the "Black Panthers" after their unit's distinctive insignia. The battalion received a Presidential Unit Citation for its actions. In addition, a large number of individual members also received medals, including one Medal of Honor, 11 Silver Stars and about 300 Purple Hearts. They were called "one of the most effective tank battalions in World War II".

The battalion first saw combat on 7 November 1944. It was among the American units that relieved the 101st Airborne at Bastogne.

05/02/2018 - 4:07pm Germany's High Seas Fleet in WWI

Had far fewer ships than the Royal Navy. However, ship for ship the Germans were superior both in armor, and its placement, and caliber to caliber German heavy naval rifles out performed their British counterparts. The power of a navy of that period was based on the number and technical sophistication of its battleship and battlecruisers. The German navy had around 20 dreadnought class battleships and 5 battlecruisers. At the beginning of WWI the British Royal Navy had 25-35 then state of the art battleships and battlecruisers. By the end of the war Britain had 35 battleships and 11 battlecruisers, 20 of these 46 ships were built after the start of the war. Despite Germany's best efforts, the British dramatically out built them throughout the war.

When the US entered the war it sent the five dreadnought class battleships and support ships of the United States Battleship Division nine to Britian which was attached to the Royal Navy as the Sixth Battle Squadron. Through most of the war the Royal Navy enjoyed a 2-1 numerical advantage over the German Navy. 

That said at the beginning of WWI the German navy was considered the second most powerful navy in the world. 

04/21/2018 - 10:08pm Classy warm lovely person

Yet at the same time, according to her husband and children, tough as nails. One of our best first ladies in my life time and I stretch back to Mamie. Go with God Mrs. Bush, you will be missed. 

04/21/2018 - 9:59pm Barring injury the defense will be tougher than last year.

With the defense taken care of, this season, no diferently than most seasons, all comes down to the offensive line. With better quarterback protection Speight would have likely started every game and gelled with his receivers. With solid run blocking our running backs would not have been hit until they'd made four or more years. 

Whine all you want about our poor offensive showing last season. Losing two of three QBs to injury usually means a losing season. While none of us, most especially the team was satisfied by last year, they really did one hell of a job to win eight games. 

Real simple. Whomever is eligible Harbaugh will put the best QB available on the field, coached up and ready to play. If the Oline is up to the job the offense will produce enough points to beat opponents smothered by the defense. If not probably a ten win season, assuming no devastating injuries. 

Coaching and scheme can mitigate a lot of weaknesses, but in the end when playing the tough games, the lines must perform.  

04/19/2018 - 9:46pm Not only did he not lose the leg

but he's able to run. We don't know how hard or long he can run, but the ability to run means that if he never plays football again, and I dearly hope he'll be able to play, he can live a fully normal life. 

That's not just a story book ending, it's a damn triumphant ending.  

04/03/2018 - 3:26pm If you use a good set of headphones

Despite the moderator speaking over him the word he uses is clearly "dare". Not that it matters. It's obvious he's feeling the loss and, from his manner and overall body language would prefer not to be there. Gotta feel for those guys hard to imagine a tougher loss than the National Championship game. Heck of a season and a heck of a team.  

04/02/2018 - 10:14pm Chill guys

There's a lot of ball yet to be played. Sure there's reason to be concerned, but it's still either team's game. 

Go Blue


03/31/2018 - 9:57pm My significant other's daughter

was solicited by Michigan's Medical school. She graduated in the top third or quarter of her class and missed honors by three one hundreds of a grade point. In the solicitation that was sent her, the medical school indicated that their goal was a 54% 46% female to male incoming class. 

The med school is quite open about this and you can go online and find that as a stated goal. You want to generalize about "universities" as if thats a rebuttal to my comment. Without regard to what "universities" may be doing, my alma mater, the University of Michigan is actively filtering their admissions in favor of women vs men.

03/31/2018 - 9:43pm As I said in the other thread

I was unable to watch the game at home so I couldn't comment until after the game was over. 

Come on people. Dear sweet Jesus, come on people. As fans we're better than this. Whining when the team isn't shooting hot and asking "how did they make the final four" when we all know it was through gritty play and tough defense. 

It was an ugly game, and I'll admit that down seven at the half was pretty daunting, but I certainly didn't give up and once they brought it to a tie I just expected a knife fight until the won at the buzzer. Of course it turned out that Michigan took control.

Championship Game baby!!!! I'd just like to ask all of you, especially the whiners in the last part of the first half, to just realize win or lose on Monday, this is a national caliber team so for God's sake can we leave the disappointed vitriol behind us for a single game. 

Our team is playing for a National Championship! Doesn't happen that often. I would love a win, but this is a great and gifted team who work so incredibly hard. As much as we all ache for that last win, this is a team of winners and no matter what happens Monday they deserve our respect and support.  

Go Blue!I hope you win it all, but no matter Thank you for an incredible Big Ten championship and a March Madness season that will be with me for so very a long time. 

03/31/2018 - 9:27pm If true she's an ingrate

Because the team has generated interest that has sold thousands if not tens of thousands of her bobble head dolls. Imagine that, just a humble Catholic nun with her own mass merchandised bobblehead doll. Right. we're all just supposed to believe it.

03/31/2018 - 9:22pm LSA

You are certainly among the part of the fan base that knows, no matter how ugly the seaon or a game, you can never give up on a Michigan team. 

Playing for the National Championship! Gotta have faith man. Just gotta have faith. 

03/31/2018 - 9:16pm Jesus Really?

I was forced to watch this in a bar because my TV packed it in so I couldn't participate in the thread in real time and at this point we know that Michigan won. "The winner of this game will get curb stomped "? Why because neither teams plays your preferred style of basket ball? You're pretty sad.

03/13/2018 - 7:04pm I don't know what Speight might or might not have been told.

But I do know that all three of Michigan's quarterbacks last season gave everything they had in an attempt to bring the team success. I know that Speight was gravely injured before his team had a chance to gel around him. I know that Peters stepped in as a red shirt freshman and gave his all until he too was taken out. I know that John O'Korn stepped into the breach when Speight went down had success then stumbled lost his starting job and stepped back in when Peters went down and gave everything he had in failed attempts to bring his team success. 

I also know this. None of these men deserve anything less than respect from the contributors to this blog. Nothing less. Nothing. The team had a bad season and certainly some of that falls on the QBs. But God love them they gave everything they had in quest for success and they didn't shirk blame in most cases they assumed more blame than was rightfully theirs. Just as is expected from Michigan men.

Last season is gone. Quit whining and look forward. You whiny bitches aren't fit to carry the helmets of the guys on that team. It's sad what this fan base has become. Just tragically sad.  

03/06/2018 - 9:40pm Sorry for your loss

I've lost a sister, my mother, and without repeated break throughs in genetically targeted treatment would have lost a brother. So yeah fuck cancer. 

02/26/2018 - 6:58pm For four decades Michigan has

For four decades Michigan has adopted an admission policy that favored women over men and minorities over Caucasians and Asians. If you look at the stated goals of Michigan's admission policy for the Medical school or other of its graduate programs, the University seeks a majority of women in its enrollments.

So yes, we alumni should be concerned that merit is ever less important in the enrollment policies of our university.  

02/23/2018 - 8:26pm I'm concerned

Continuity in an offensive line is crucial and critical for an offense in general. If you want your team to compete at the upper most levels, you can't reboot its offensive or defensive culture every three or four years. Our defense is great because of the thread of continuity from 2011 with Mattison and Hoke to today with Dr. Blitz Brown and Mattison. The offense, until the last couple years, has been in a churn. I wasn't happy with last season but the rotating door of injured quarterbacks really make an offensive assessment near to meaningless. 

Ah Hell. Trust Harbaugh and cross fingers. But cheering Drevno's departure could well prove premature. 


And last of all, but not least of all, best of luck coach Drevno!!!

02/20/2018 - 9:17pm I've started four businesses

One blazing failure. One tottered along at break even until it was closed. One moderately successful that was sold. And one, the first that was very successful, was the basis of my career, and out lived all the others, and it was a consulting business.

The comments that you need a year in the bank are spot on. Good advice. But better advice is start your busness before you quit your job. Make the contacts outside your main job and build an oustide business. Develop a few satisfied clients who'll provide referrals and references. Plan on working north of 80 hours a week between your job and your business. Once you have that year in the bank, and you have your side business up and running, all the legal, financial, and basic marketing in place and it's generating no less that 40% of what you earn at your job. Then and only then launch on your own.

Or find a client whose business will pay you 18 months of your regular job. Cash flow is almost as good as money in the bank. Better in a way because you can borrow on your invoices and a big client can often give you leverage pursing new clients.

Bottom line. When you are starting out minimize cash flow risk. Get an income stream started before you jump. Be extremely frugal with your spending. Never stop seeking new business, no matter how busy you are. Good luck. 

02/20/2018 - 8:50pm I find it interesting that "Michigan time" is

a tradition stretching back to 1936, because it did not exist when I attended in the 1970s. Class started on the hour. Period. If the professor was fifteen minutes late the class was considered canceled. Mutual respect for time was the rule. Now some professors gave a couple minutes cushion, but generally less than five minutes. 

02/12/2018 - 8:18pm That is very cool

Perhaps a bit disturbing, but very cool none the less. Very cool.  

02/09/2018 - 5:12pm Can you imagine how many

Can you imagine how many rebounds he have had if we've given him a Lexus?

02/09/2018 - 5:10pm A study in courage

A horrific injury with the potential to cost him his leg or cripple him for life. A long arduous and difficult recovery. Yet he still can't wait to play. Damn! Mr. Newsome you are an inspiration. I hope thing work out just as you wish.  

02/09/2018 - 3:42pm Man you folks need to get a grip

So for various reasons I'm absent for a couple of weeks and all hell break loose. 

Maybe I'm out of date but I have this recollection of Speight telling us he's moving on. Has he changed his mind? 

So because Peters didn't gell with very limited exposure and a nasty injury and then failed as the conquering hero in the bowl game he's crap on a stick? Seriously? 

Whether or not Shea can play, Harbaugh will get the best available QB ready for the coming season. If the Oline get their crap together the team will be fine. . 

02/07/2018 - 10:18pm Probably his last Super Bowl

Brady will be 41 by the start of the regular season. If you look at the statistics for QBs starting at age forty they've played an average of something like 20 games for the remainder of their careers. Not even Tom can avoid father time. It's hard to see a path for him to get back to the Super Bowl next season, and it's even hard to see how he can play at the required level at the age of 42 or 43. 

Hope I'm dead wrong. 

02/07/2018 - 10:07pm The unsubstantiated story is

that he broke curfew the night before the game, got stoned, and had "some amount" of marijuana on his person. This is unsubstantiated, but that was the thread on Monday.

02/07/2018 - 9:58pm Heh So much holding so few calls...

As in no calls. It became pretty clear early that offensive holding was not a penalty in the super bowl. To be fair the refs called, or in this case failed to call, it the same for both teams. I thought the refs did a disservice ignoring offensive holding, but that's just an opinion.  

01/15/2018 - 9:49pm Or maybe just playing for a

Or maybe just playing for a coach who had eleven players drafted and who had a bunch of undrafted free agants. "Come play for us and I can assure you every NFL scout will be watching you".

When you play for a man who has Harbuagh's NFL record, the team doesn't need to make the playoffs (as much as I want that), Harbaugh knows how to maximize his draft potential. Damn he'd be a sweet get at a real position of need! 

01/15/2018 - 9:33pm So is this a good hire, a

So is this a good hire, a great hire, or maybe a puzzling hire?

Just asking.

01/11/2018 - 8:46pm A lot of truth here...

Especially this "And I know someone will likely say "what some random person on a blog doesn't impact what the players do", it does, especially when that action becomes a growing chorus."

I understand the need for the buttercups to vent and rant, but when the overwhelming tone on the most popular Michigan sports blog, perhaps the most popular college sports blog, on the internet gets this insanely negative it does have an effect on the team and the program. The vast majority of folks here credit mgoblog with taking down Dave Brandon and then in the same breath say that what is said here is "just opinion". Can't have it both ways boys and girls.

Occasionally a college program can lose 2 QBs to injury and manage to have the depth across the entire offense to win out, but that's rare, and especially rare in the 2nd full year of a coach's recruiting. The team is fine. Harbaugh will deal with whatever coaching issues may or may not exist on his staff. The ability to absorb massive losses in players,whether to injury or graduation, or the NFL draft and "just reload" is 2 two perhaps three years away. Harbaugh will get the program there, and there is exactly nothing he can do about the RIchRod or Hoke years, so stop whining about them. Suck it up and support the program.

01/09/2018 - 8:33pm There were and are a large contingent of folks

who see the spread as the "modern era" of college football. Rodriguez was proclaimed by them to be the future of Michigan football. The messiah who'd lift Michigan up from it's man ball fallacy and lead it to the promised land. That formed the foundation for the "soft spot" and the basis for all there reasons that he wasn't given a "fair" chance. Well folks, life ain't fair and he was a very bad fit for Michigan.

I do think that he either misunderstood his mission statement, or the people gave it to him poorly understood Michigan football and where it was in its progression.He took over a winning program that wasn't performing to expectations and threw away virtually all the aspects of the program that provided its strength. Maybe his charter was out with the old and in with the new, but that charter still expected him to win during the transition.

Now there are allegations of heinous behavior and harassment of at least one female employee who reported to him. That's he said she said at this point, but if those allegation hold up in court, then he wasn't just a bad fit at Michigan, he is a despicable human being and Michigan is damn lucky that the entrenched folks in the program prevented him from feeling like he could pull such crap here.

01/09/2018 - 8:19pm Yeah

Well every reference I can find whether in the news or on a compensation contract has his last name spelled Rodriguez (with the 'd'). I'm perfectly willing to be corrected, but at this point you need a reference.

01/08/2018 - 7:48pm Really

"...on average college players aren't anywhere near as insane in their love of school as we are..."

While I freely admit to not having surveyed Michigan's college athletes, I'm a bit curious as to the basis of your assertion. Frankly I think that you're full of it and, were I to make a bet, I'd bet that the majority of the scholarship athletes at the University of Michigan love the U at least a much if not more than the average "fan". The vast majority of those athletes never compete again after they leave school. They devoted hundreds of extra hours every year, and somehow you think their pride and devotion to their alma mater is less than ours?

I think the righteous self indigent fan bus picks people up over there. Why don't you hurry to be first in line.  

01/05/2018 - 2:53pm Yes it's not just Rodriguez

the university allegedly blocked her internal transfer because it would piss off Rodriguez. If true the univeristy enabled the harassment and are on the hook for damages. $7.5 million may well be very high, but the university has at least as great a motivation to settle this as Rodriguez. If the allegations are true and provable my guess is low seven figures.

01/04/2018 - 5:27pm Thanks

Now I have to wash the coffee spurt off my screen. 

01/04/2018 - 5:19pm While your point has value

your numbers are WAY off.

Depending on the service there are beween 30 and 50 five star recruits. Then depending on the service there are between 300-350 four star recuits. About ten years ago the services adjusted the 3 and 2 star dividing line so, where before the top 3rd of who was left got a 3 star ande every one else a two the boundary is now closer to 50/50 and covers about 2500 graduating hgh school seniors. 

So in the typical year around 3000 high school seniors get ranked. If indeed thousands of graduating high school players go to the camps, far far more than 250 are ranked.

01/03/2018 - 1:16pm No I said that the administration neglected the program

Not that they didn't still expect to win. If you are an alumnus, then you most likely experienced the disdain that some faculty and administrative personnel felt towards the football program. They were in the minority, but still present. Priorities shift as factions gain or lose control or influence. "Football will be fine it's Michigan", and it was until it wasn't.  

I tend to be long winded. Which contributes to length of my comments at least as much as the amount of information I wish to express. So perhaps I'm just a mediocre commenter. However, in the endless angst of disappointment here, people tend to ignore the reality of how the program got here. Some reminders require more than a couple of lines of text.

One common definition of mediocre is "of only ordinary or moderate quality; neither good nor bad; barely adequate." There are around 125 D-1 FBS football programs, so a reasonable boundary for mediocre would be ranked between say 68-61. How many of those won 28 games in the last three seasons? This season's team turned in a less than mediocre performance for a University of Michigan football team. Measured it against the entirety of the FBS and it exceeded mediocrity. The reason we consider 8-4 or 10-3 mediocre is because we are measuring them against an elite standard. The fact that we and most of the football world measures them against that standard, indicates that Michigan's program is expected to be elite. It is, as I said before, an elite program that is digging out of a down cycle.  

01/03/2018 - 12:44pm Thanks

I agree with your defnition of doing well. 

So did Oklahoma more or less stumble on Lincoln Riley because he was OC? Or do you think that Stoops, intending to retire, found him and brought him there for a smooth transition? I ask because, as you point out, how is Michigan's AD going to identify coaches who are more or less under the radar?