Phil Steele Pre-Season Rank: Michigan 12th

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Is anyone else fine with this? I mean, beyond the whole 'pre-season rankings are meaningless.' Top 15, with Michigan's schedule, is striking distance for top 4 when it counts, especially with the Game to end the season. It'll allow the young guys and QB to get settled in and generally reduce the pressure (though I'm not sure Harbaugh is a fan of that). 

ijohnb

June 27th, 2016 at 8:14 AM ^

that will be a rare occurence.  Presumably that mean that either the PAC 12 or BIG would not get a team in.  A good portion of this playoff is strictly about money.  It would not be wise to relegate the CFP to a "meh" type event for a huge portion of the country.

slimj091

June 27th, 2016 at 3:23 AM ^

Fuck pre season ranking all together. This is the kind of shit that ND fans jerk each other off over. Can we try and not be like those douchebags please?

Craptain Crunch

June 27th, 2016 at 5:22 AM ^

As it is a silly pre-season poll that means absolutely nothing. No need to get one's panties in a wad over it. Jimmy and his guys are going to shock the world in 2016 and beyond.

xtramelanin

June 27th, 2016 at 5:25 AM ^

and with washington at 8 and stanford at 10, his picking ability appears to be severely challenged as well.

it's okay to be #12 in a meaningless ranking though, so in the end, nothing to see here.  move on.  and don't read alleged collie molestor's rankings. 

bacon

June 27th, 2016 at 5:42 AM ^

Phil Steele, Bleacher Report, Le WWL, theyre all the same. Doesn't anyone else notice this, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!

ijohnb

June 27th, 2016 at 10:01 AM ^

that as fans, it does not matter what we "are looking ahead" to because we obviously don't have an impact on the results but I think this is getting just a little bit ahead of ourselves.  I would expect us to beat both Penn State and Wisconsin at home but both of those teams are capable opponents and beating them in back to back weeks will not be a cake walk.

MChem83

June 27th, 2016 at 6:42 AM ^

We're lacking a returning starter at QB, we have a not-too-talented Oline that's thin to boot, and no #1 caliber RB.  If all you're doing is projecting before the season starts and not going by any actual games, those are significant flaws.

And not that it matters.  If we beat PSU and Wisconsin at home, as we should if we're even the 12th best team in the country, we'll start off 7-0 and be solidly in the top 10, maybe top 5.  Which again won't matter, because we'll make or break our season based on how we do against Sparty, Iowa and OSU.

RainbowSprings

June 27th, 2016 at 7:40 AM ^

We have a lot of questions on offense. Despite the dearly departed Rudock having the second most single-season passing yards in UM history, our passing offense last year only ranked 52nd among all  FBS teams. Our running attack was 79th, overall offense ended at 69th. Rudock is gone, we're still apparently shuffling our OL looking for consistency, and we can only hope Jehu fully recovers from his leg injury. Our D almost certainly will end up in the top 10, but offensive consistency is a concern.

LSAClassOf2000

June 27th, 2016 at 6:46 AM ^

All the rankings at this point are mere guesses, of course, but if we ask the question a smidgen differently and ask if a #12 preseason poll ranking would be shocking to anyone right now, then at least for me, that's a "no". I would take it though - I have a suspicion we are placed somewhere around the floor of the Top 10 in a poll or two and that seems to matter to the psyche of the people that do the actual voting. That is to say, it seems more likely we could only improve in their mind, and a good showing in the run-up to the tough portion of the conference schedule probably means less variability in our ranking if we stumble once. That's just speculation based on past poll behavior though. 

JTGoBlue

June 27th, 2016 at 7:05 AM ^

Too low. Sparty and Iowa may not be wins that help move us up dramatically. We could be 7 or 8 heading into OSU, where a win there may not get us into the top 4.



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sum1valiant

June 27th, 2016 at 7:49 AM ^

It sounds like you're suggesting that we could go into the OSU game 11-0 and still not be in the top 5, which is absurd. Win 12 regular seasons games and there is a 100% chance that the B1G championship is to play for a national title. Honestly, I don't think the odds change much with one loss, but a win over OSU.

pmark1210

June 27th, 2016 at 8:17 AM ^

no, but with the craziness that always happens in November, if Michigan gets to the big ten title game ranked in top 5 or 6, then win that game, it's a almost a given they will be in playoff. also, the amount of media Michigan will be getting if they are unbeaten, regardless of making playoff or not, will only be a positive on the recruiting front. this is Michigan football's most important year in a long time.

umbig11

June 27th, 2016 at 7:53 AM ^

No big deal. Anywhere from 5-12 is about right for us. Need to prove we have a QB to everyone else but us. Our "D" is top 10 and our OL is still slightly suspect. No problems at RB or WR. I am ready to get after it!

megaswami

June 27th, 2016 at 7:59 AM ^

12 is right where we need to be. You have to earn a Top 10 ranking, let's see if Florida a** beating carries over.

LB play last year was horrible, end play wasn't much better. Too many blown assignments on inside reads and an inability to keep the edge. We may have great DB's and interior lineman, but if we don't get better LB/DE play we are going to suffer.



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Hugh

June 27th, 2016 at 8:04 AM ^

I would rather have us under rated than over rated. I want our team to have someting to prove!

Let's prove we are great on the field rather than in the polls. The only polls that matter come from the championship bowl committee the second half of the season.

turtleboy

June 27th, 2016 at 8:35 AM ^

Phil Steele has no imagination whatsoever. He basically copies and pastes last years final standings into next years prediction. If anybody ever did a pre-post season comparison of his team and all american predictions you'd start wondering why the hell he's even paid money.

Avon Barksdale

June 27th, 2016 at 9:13 AM ^

We don't know who our QB is yet. We also don't know who is going to make tackles if ballcarriers make it past our DLINE (which isn't likely but you get the point). I guess technically Jabrill can make all the tackles but #12 is a good starting point.

SysMark

June 27th, 2016 at 9:41 AM ^

Still pushing those magazines.  Not surprising given that his website has to be one of the oddest looking things on the internets.  Very 1990. 

Kevin13

June 27th, 2016 at 9:34 AM ^

be in the 10-15 area pre-season. People putting us in the top 4 is a little optimistic to start the season. Definitely think they can get there, but need to just win games and not get ahead of ourselves. But with a new QB anything can happen.

1VaBlue1

June 27th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^

I really don't get why people are concerned with the QB situation.  Yeah, it'll be a first year starter at UM.  So what?  Saban wins playoff games with first year starters at Alabama, and he couldn't coach a QB if his stinkin' life depended on it!  Whoever wins a QB battle under Harbaugh will be, not only ready to play, but the best QB on the team.  And with Harbaugh as his coach, he'll be better than most QB's in college football.  I just refuse to lose one second of my life through 'concern' for QB under Harbaugh.

M-Dog

June 27th, 2016 at 11:07 AM ^

We bitch when we are ranked too high (like #3), so in fairness I guess we should bitch when we are ranked too low.

12th is too low.  We should not be behind Tenn and Wash.  We should be in the top 10, somewhere between 5th and 10th.

/End Obligatory Bitch.

 

Ty Butterfield

June 27th, 2016 at 11:11 AM ^

12 seems about right. Lots of question marks coming into this season. Just win games and the rest will take care of itself.