Hello: 2024 DT Manuel Beigel
Of note, it seems that Beigel is going to be playing in the US in the future at former school of current Michigan player Tristan Bounds. So he should get some more development playing against US players before he gets to Michigan
Collier hinting at more international commits this week. Possibly 23 LB Kofi Taylor-Barrocks who Michigan has not offered yet or 24 LB Justin Okoronkwo who does have a Michigan offer
But do they have an equally impressive farmer's tan?
Check his legs, maybe he is a cyclist? It is TdF time right now...
Any relation to Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, former Oklahoma Sooner and current edge for the Texans?
Also, since the recruiting in America is going a bit sour for the program, its good to see them branching out and getting first dibs on the best international recruits. Michigan has had success in the past recruiting internationally so why not? Take them all! Kofi seems to have awesome height and weight for his position too.
And word on the street is they are about to sign a nose tackle from Lilliput.
What the hell is that carrying the Michigan flag in the photo?
Murderwolf
And I should know because Ive always been here.
Murderwolf has brown fur. That thing looks like Grover and Big Bird on Seasme Street had a baby.
Does Michigan adding German players make it IHOP: the International House of pFootball?
I for one welcome our international championship winning overlords!
Also, what is that thing holding the M flag on the commitment photo?
Go Blue
Magnus has him as an OT.
I think he took reps there at a camp.
F-18s are stupid.
Go Choate! Beat Deerfield!
Not a high level of competition in the New England prep school circuit though, I'm afraid.
Not much info out yet. Here's a short article from when he was offered:
https://247sports.com/Player/Manuel-Beigel-46135030/
https://247sports.com/Article/Michigan-offers-Germany-2024-lineman-Manuel-Beigel-189043263/
He does not look like a 2024 recruit, he looks like he could already be a college sophomore.
LFG!!!!!!! Keep it going!
Keep the great news coming!
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When you ask “But can he play D Tackle?” for 3 years 2022 has the answer.
He’ll be a dual threat QB
What's the percentage on these guys panning out?
Michigan is about to become a case study to find out. There’s no reason to think that international players wouldn’t have the same success rate as domestic recruits.
Athletically these recruits should be similar, and in a more international, more concentrated league, I’d assume their level of competition is similar or better.
We disagree on the likely level of competition. These appear to be athletes, that we hope to mold into sportsman in time
Julius Welschof would be one example of an international player with not a whole lot of football experience.
Ojabo had very little experience as well.
You have to think the best athletes across the pond gravitate toward soccer. American football is still growing over there. I would not believe that the level of competition is near what American High School kids are seeing. Particularly the top high school kids.
While in general that is very true, I think the point is that if these guys are playing in a national "travel" league like an AAU (I don't know if that's the case, but seems to be what the poster is suggesting), the competition could be better than what a kid is getting in a league confined to say, SE MI or CT or some of the leagues we get players from.
In other words, the best 18 years old in Germany still might be better than the best 18 year old in CT.
It’s sort of a gamble. TX and FL players who play year round since they were 8 tend to be better than northern players who play for three months every fall. Will a plus athlete with even less experience be able to make up for that lack of reps? On the D-line where there are fewer reads and raw power is at a premium I think it is a safe bet. Possibly O-line, a la Daniel Falele, but knowing who to block takes a little more. QB, CB, LB and WR are probably hard positions to catch up on the learning curve.
This isn't really the case. Texas and Florida produce a lot of good players by volume because they are large states where a high percentage of kids play football (compared to other sports).
In fact, Texas and Florida produce relatively few NFL players per capita: https://mississippitoday.org/2021/11/01/mississippi-nfl-players-by-state/
Other smaller southern states do produce a lot of NFL players per capita but it's not because of the weather.
Going the international route might actually work. We have had success in basketball but that's not comparing apples to apples, since American football isn't as big on the international stage as basketball and there isn't a lot of competitive football programs for them to sharpen their skills. They're probably thinking that recruits outside of the top 250 that actually do pan out are those who have taken to and benefit from great coaching. They believe they have good enough coaches to coach these guys up to the point where they can play at this level. If they are scouting for speed, athleticism, and strength, they can teach technique. It's a great strategy particularly if you refuse to throw big $$$ in NIL deals at recruits. If they continue to win over the next 3-4 years, everyone will be trying to copy the model.
I remember the world champion Detroit Pistons had the #2 pick in the NBA draft. If they choose Carmello Anthony, Dwayne Wade, or Chris Bosh, they win 3 more championships easily. Instead they chose Darko and we all know how that turned out. The point is that Joe Dumars went away from the greatest system for evaluating NBA ready talent on the planet. Our very own system evaluates these kids from age 8, and through college. Carmello was a H.S. player of the year, College player of the year, NCAA champion and Final 4 MVP. He passed over the sure thing, searching for the next Dirk Nowitzki. Thinking outside the box is great, and if it works for the reigning Big Ten champions, he's a genius. If it doesn't, it will be because he too abandoned the greatest, proven method of evaluating talent on the planet and didn't trust our own system like Joe Dumars did 20 years ago. Welcome aboard young man.
Bosh was the pick. The pistons needed a big so Darko was not a bad pick based on position. Hindsight being 20/20 lots of people overvalued Darko. Although you do wonder if they draft Bosh do they go out and sign Rasheed (never leave Horry) Wallace? Without R. Wallace they may not have been ready to win it all in 04.
I get your point though. The evaluation state side for football and basketball is more of a sure thing.
Hockey and Soccer not so much.
Technically, Sheed was was already in place. We won in 2004 with nothing from Darko and I think the best pick was Melo. Albeit we had Tayshaun at the 3, you MUST draft the best available player, and a generational type talent. Build value on the roster and package some of the other bench players for a another big. Your 100% right about Hockey and Soccer. Appreciate the trip down memory lane.
Said he didn’t draft Melo due to Tayshaun but D Wade was a big miss.
All of these international guys our staff has worked out and liked what they saw. They wouldn’t offer otherwise. There’s some risk since they haven’t played US competition but physically they’re to par
We're about 1.5 / 2 on international players in the past four-ish years (Welschof and Ojabo). I'll take 75% all day, especially if the hits are HITS like Ojabo.
This MGoJew is excited to have a Beigel on our team!
No lox or cream cheese for this guy, though....
Word is Elston likes him because he can be EDGE, or 3-tech--and can bulk up to play 1-tech.
...He's kind of an Everything Beigel.
Or OL same with Collins Acheampong. To me, both are OL prospects. Time will tell
He could be a Gentile.
If he is Jewish that would be incredibly poignant.
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