The success of an NFL QB is very much chance and system. Further, the QB’s ability to process information and read defenses quickly -and study his ass off - is huge.
Lamar Jackson is currently not in the NFL if Baltimore decides to not build an entire offense around him and be patient with his growth as a passer.
Joe Montana - Bill Walsh, west coast offense. Never had the physical attributes of Marino or Elway
Patrick Mahomes - probably putting up numbers anywhere, but winning at this rate - the marriage with Andy Reid and his play calling are huge.
Brady - obviously…always clutch and hardest worker in the building, but Pats defense carried those early teams until he became Tom f’ing Brady.
Thankfully Michigan won the last "real" CFB championship of the prior era.
This will all get cleaned up at some point with contracts, rev share, etc - but right now it's the Wild West. The NCAA was screwing players for years with free labor and "bagging" (SEC, OSU) teams reaped the benefits of the assymetry. I'm not naive enough to believe that UM never paid players under the table, but also have enough common sense to know that the best players in the country weren't constantly choosing Bama and OSU for the Tuscaloosa and Columbus nightlife, beaches and culture scene. But now the pendulum has swung all the way back to over correct, and the system is broken and completely unstructructered.
Once this gets cleaned up and has some structure, hopefully UM can utilize this "money cannon" I keep hearing about. For now, it's just bagging and tampering on steroids and not much can be done if operating in the reality of limitless bidding auctions where you need re-recruit your team every year.
And not to be a hypocrite here....The same reality that allowed Dusty May to build a seemingly NCAA CBB tourney worthy squad in 1 month from absolute dumpster fire, allows for a quality football squad with depth like UM to get plundered by other programs.
JJ was clutch and we almost certainly won’t have that type of QB play this year. That said, UM has built their teams around the lines the past few years and proven that what was old is new again…defense, physicality, ground game wins games.
Would not at all be surprised to see a Tebow-Leak at Florida type scenario this year for UM. Orji is like an extra fullback with a threat to pass, but there are times when a more traditional passing game is needed.
Given our defense and running backs, TE’s and roster talent, no reason we can’t roll with the 2 qb thing if necessary.
Nobody can ever take away 2024 from Michigan football. The documentaries and movies about this team and this past 3 year run under Harbaugh will be epic. The greatest FU to the NCAA and their chosen allies and winners (OSU, SEC) imaginable. They literally needed one team to NOT win it all and did everything in their power to bring down UM (because of what Harbaugh says and represents) and they failed.
Stalions crap was random bs they could find at any program…be it scouting, pay for play, ped’s, etc. The hit job failed. The program Harbaugh and Herbert built was too strong - physically and mentally. Just glorious how it all blew up in the face of the ncaa and B1G power brokers.
Well, Quinn was just as annoying as any overhyped ND QB or player in general from that era and or even now as they continue to Return to Glory and Wake Up the Echoes apparently every year now, only to end up meh - or sneak into BCS and playoff contention due to avoiding tough conference games.
That said, Quinn has been quite outspoken about the absurdity of claiming UM's "sIgN STeaLINg!!!" had anything to do with the program's success, and gives full credit to Harbaugh and the team for their achievements. Henceforth, my enemy's enemy is my friend, and I now like the cut of his jib.
And in fairness to the Figthings, UM was essentially ND, just a decade later to the "down bad" Blue Blood programs club until Harbaugh took over. Theirs has ben 30 years of mediocrity with a few great Kelly years scattered in, and we were 20 years of mediocrity - starting with late ear Lloyd and ending with Harbaugh.
Izzo has hoarded midwest talent for almost 3 decades now and done less with more - specifically over the past 15-20 years. Beilein would have had multiple national titles at UM if staying put for 30 years and pulling in top 5 recruiting classes like Izzo.
Schools like Indiana and Illinois have suffered due to the talent drain that is East Lansing.
1 National Title for MSU in his tenure, given the NBA talent that has gone through that program, is absolute futility. Sharty fans are absolutely delusional about the "greatness" of Tiny Tim.
Mr. March indeed, because he can't make it to April.
UConn basketball feels like UM football- just kind of squeeze the life out of the other team over the course of the game. Balanced, unselfish roster - elite defense and offensive efficiency.
Mullings is a tank with nimble feet...Haskins 2.0.
Went back and watched the all the games from this past season and Mullings was our 2nd best back over the course of the season. Edwards, of course, is dynamic and always a big play threat as seen against PSU and Washington, but he struggled for much of last year, tbh.
Assuming Edwards can revert to 2022 form, with more explosives and better vision and balance at the line, the duo will be one of the tops in the nation. Corum was special in his ability to get both explosive plays and always be good for an extra 2-3 yards after contact on inside runs - but don't think we'll have that luxury this year embodied in just 1 back. O-line will need to grow up fast.
Beating a good team twice in a year is very difficult.
That said, UM was the best team in the country last year and OSU did not have the offense to move it on UM consistently.
JJ was hurt going into the game and I think a rematch would have actually favored UM more. McCord was not going to get any better in a playoff, JJ probably would.
The only game UM seemingly lost control of was the Bama game, and that was mostly due to ridiculously poor special teams play which was a 10-14 point swing during regulation of that game.
UGA was probably the #2 team in the nation last year and had the passing attack to potentially threaten UM...glad BAMA beat them in the SEC championship.
League went all in propping up OSU football since the BCS era started, believing it would be the conference’s flagship program- and for most of that 25 year period they seemingly made the correct choice. But the inability to pivot or at least equally brand multiple elite programs is unforgivable. Bama, UGA, LSU, Florida have all been celebrated and supported by the SEC during their runs of elite play- the conference was wise enough to not choose favorites.
Then shit football programs crapping on UM football post Stalions bs was gross. If they were so offended by the “cHEATinG!” , they should give back the revenues UM made them the past 3 years in making the playoffs.
Fuck the B1G- except maybe Minnesota- who has a head coach, Fleck, with the football IQ and honesty to acknowledge how great UM was this past year.
JJ has all he physical gifts and leadership intangibles and toughness (played hurt) you'd ever want in a QB. His teammates love him and no reason he can't succeed in the NFL.
That said, the league is a crapshoot and so much depends on where you get drafted, how you get developed, the system, the coaches, etc. See Lamar Jackson - if a team doesn't bet on him and build an offense around him, he's probably a 3rd stringer or not even in the league at this point
It's also impossible to predict how a QB will translate to the change in speed of the game from college to pros...it's the biggest and most difficult jump for any position on the field. The QB has to process so much and the physical tools almost become secondary to reading defenses, the field, going through progressions and understanding leverage.
JJ played in a pro-style offense which helps. He is also very young, meaning he has more upside and time to learn the position than some of his peers.
While JJ played in a complex scheme with multiple shifts and packages, he did not play in a complex passing scheme with multiple route trees and choice routes on each play - something all NFL QB's must learn to process quickly.
I would never doubt JJ, but also understand he is probably best off sitting for a year or 2 before needing to lead a team as the franchise QB.
What's the vibe in PSU circles these days? My take, fwiw...
1) Expanded playoff probably exciting given PSU is a top 15ish program and would have made multiple playoffs under Franklin under this new system
2) Watching UM the past 3 years probably gives PSU some more hope, given we don't recruit at Bama, UGA, OSU levels - but more at PSU levels
3) Maybe time to move on from Franklin though? Given PSU resources and history, folks probably expecting an elite product - or at least a team that can make a title run once every 5-10 years - something it doesn't seem Franklin can develop.
I actually think now is the perfect time for PSU to cut ties with Franklin as I'm not sure births into the expanded playoff and subsequent losses to football factory SEC schools will keep the fanbase happy.
Not trying to be smarmy here either, honest question, as...If UM doesn't figure out NIL, we very may well fall into the same bucket - as what Harbaugh and staff pulled off the past 3 years in development, scheme and talent identification was the perfect storm, and not sure if it is replicable going forward - specifically in this newer, even more mercenary era of CFB.
Just thankful for Jim and the team to have experienced this past year before all these changes happen.
At Qmatic...100%. I mentioned this once in top plays of the year.
If you watch the all 22, the quick reaction by Moore, the ground he covers, and the angle he takes to make the tackle are perfection. 75% may be too modest, tbh. That was an NFL play that by Rod Moore to save a TD, one that maybe 10% of college safeties can make.
Agree. McCord is a good college QB and could win and be developed at UM.
Almost anybody is going to look mid coming after CJ Stroud or Justin Fields.
Ryan Day's QB-centric offense does nothing to take pressure off the QB position.
Any QB, even Brady and Mahomes, could have an off day - specifically when going up against d-lines that are in your face all day. Pressure is the great equalizer...getting pressure with just the front 4 tilts the advantage to the defense.
Ryan Day is still trying to out Texas Tech opponents, not realizing that this allows them to nuke the Hoosiers and Sparties of the world by 49 by halftime, but doesn't work at the expected 50-50 rate when facing equal talent or scheme (UM, Bama, UGA).
Stockpiling all that elite talent across the field and then putting 80% of the game on the QB's shoulders is idiocy. It creates a dynamic where the team's performance week to week can be much higher variance than it should be. Lincoln Riley has also had to learn this the hard way.
In the NFL, QB play is often the margin because there is so much parity across entire rosters across the league - so that one position (along with d-line if its elite) can be the margin - hence, NFL games have far fewer blowouts than college.
But Sharty and Pooper Cooler fans said all of Michigan's good players were 32 year Old 12th year Covid seniors - the only way UM could ever win a National Title...
So true. Reflection of their coach. You can actually see when they lose hope… it’s glorious.
Going back to halftime in The Game in 2021, after getting bully balled but keeping it close for the first half, they were shook in the tunnel. Down just 14-13, but they were getting bullied, and while UM fans had ptsd, there was no doubt amongst the players on both sides that day, at that moment, about which way that game was going.
Again, in 2022, they come in as favorites with Corum injured, and while bottling up the running game with 8-9 in the box early, gave up big pass plays over the top. Again, when UM took the lead @24-20, the game was over. Soft team, anxious team, folded like a cheap suit. Stadium had a cloud of doubt, fear and anxiety. UM closed exactly as one would expect, with Edwards running up the gut twice for two explosive 75 yard + tds, on that mentally weak team, and the UM defense holding them to 3 second half points.
And this year, to their credit, they managed to keep it closer- and actually had a manball run first drive to tie it at 17. But again, their defense folded, giving up the go ahead TD on the very next drive (the Zinter drive) and then getting choked out on UM’s final fg drive that ran off 8min of the clock. That final Corum run to the edge for a first down, and you could see their spirit break. Zinter injured, Will Johnson injured, JJ dinged up, but still, OSU never mentally tough enough to steal that game, Day too big a pussy to line up and keep running against our elite D-line. Needed a miracle on that last drive with 1 min left, but sorry cryin Ryan, there are no Hollywood endings for pussies.
tldr: That entire fanbase is shook and broken, praying their purchased Avengers roster gets over the hump this year.
Brian Cook is a grumpy, self-made entrepreneur. He is not an ass-licking do-nothing desk jockey who plays the system or understands maneuvering the political realities of an Athletic Department and Board of trustees.
It's a nice pipe dream and would be the perfect counter to Warde, and is therefore never happening.
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But, He ate it, so it’s fair game - pun intended.
Now Trophy hunting virtually-extinct animals, seems unnecessary.
The success of an NFL QB is very much chance and system. Further, the QB’s ability to process information and read defenses quickly -and study his ass off - is huge.
Lamar Jackson is currently not in the NFL if Baltimore decides to not build an entire offense around him and be patient with his growth as a passer.
Joe Montana - Bill Walsh, west coast offense. Never had the physical attributes of Marino or Elway
Patrick Mahomes - probably putting up numbers anywhere, but winning at this rate - the marriage with Andy Reid and his play calling are huge.
Brady - obviously…always clutch and hardest worker in the building, but Pats defense carried those early teams until he became Tom f’ing Brady.
JJ seems to be in a good spot to develop
No, it's an over correction without structure.
Prior system was exploitative. Current system is wild west insanity.
Contracts, rev share, and organization should fix the problem over time.
It was broken before , and its broken now - just on completely opposite ends of the spectrum.
Thankfully Michigan won the last "real" CFB championship of the prior era.
This will all get cleaned up at some point with contracts, rev share, etc - but right now it's the Wild West. The NCAA was screwing players for years with free labor and "bagging" (SEC, OSU) teams reaped the benefits of the assymetry. I'm not naive enough to believe that UM never paid players under the table, but also have enough common sense to know that the best players in the country weren't constantly choosing Bama and OSU for the Tuscaloosa and Columbus nightlife, beaches and culture scene. But now the pendulum has swung all the way back to over correct, and the system is broken and completely unstructructered.
Once this gets cleaned up and has some structure, hopefully UM can utilize this "money cannon" I keep hearing about. For now, it's just bagging and tampering on steroids and not much can be done if operating in the reality of limitless bidding auctions where you need re-recruit your team every year.
And not to be a hypocrite here....The same reality that allowed Dusty May to build a seemingly NCAA CBB tourney worthy squad in 1 month from absolute dumpster fire, allows for a quality football squad with depth like UM to get plundered by other programs.
Specifically to Ole Miss, Tennessee or OSU
Things are getting dusty*
Fify
JJ was clutch and we almost certainly won’t have that type of QB play this year. That said, UM has built their teams around the lines the past few years and proven that what was old is new again…defense, physicality, ground game wins games.
Would not at all be surprised to see a Tebow-Leak at Florida type scenario this year for UM. Orji is like an extra fullback with a threat to pass, but there are times when a more traditional passing game is needed.
Given our defense and running backs, TE’s and roster talent, no reason we can’t roll with the 2 qb thing if necessary.
He’ll look good in Turquoise and white…Oxford has some lovely young ladies as well. Smart move
I believe that’s the Columbus bukkake.
OSU fans gather in a circle and proceed to poo in the same cooler.
Nobody can ever take away 2024 from Michigan football. The documentaries and movies about this team and this past 3 year run under Harbaugh will be epic.
The greatest FU to the NCAA and their chosen allies and winners (OSU, SEC) imaginable.
They literally needed one team to NOT win it all and did everything in their power to bring down UM (because of what Harbaugh says and represents) and they failed.
Stalions crap was random bs they could find at any program…be it scouting, pay for play, ped’s, etc. The hit job failed. The program Harbaugh and Herbert built was too strong - physically and mentally.
Just glorious how it all blew up in the face of the ncaa and B1G power brokers.
Go Blue
Pull it down!
Well, Quinn was just as annoying as any overhyped ND QB or player in general from that era and or even now as they continue to Return to Glory and Wake Up the Echoes apparently every year now, only to end up meh - or sneak into BCS and playoff contention due to avoiding tough conference games.
That said, Quinn has been quite outspoken about the absurdity of claiming UM's "sIgN STeaLINg!!!" had anything to do with the program's success, and gives full credit to Harbaugh and the team for their achievements. Henceforth, my enemy's enemy is my friend, and I now like the cut of his jib.
And in fairness to the Figthings, UM was essentially ND, just a decade later to the "down bad" Blue Blood programs club until Harbaugh took over. Theirs has ben 30 years of mediocrity with a few great Kelly years scattered in, and we were 20 years of mediocrity - starting with late ear Lloyd and ending with Harbaugh.
IOC, FIFA, NCAA
Running the corruption racket for the sports vertical.
Every industry has its parasitic value extractors.
He will be missed. Genuine, authentic, quirky 100% football guy.
Onward, go Blue
I'm down for any orange juice that doesn't murder me
One of the rare times folks were rooting for cancer to win.
Izzo has hoarded midwest talent for almost 3 decades now and done less with more - specifically over the past 15-20 years. Beilein would have had multiple national titles at UM if staying put for 30 years and pulling in top 5 recruiting classes like Izzo.
Schools like Indiana and Illinois have suffered due to the talent drain that is East Lansing.
1 National Title for MSU in his tenure, given the NBA talent that has gone through that program, is absolute futility. Sharty fans are absolutely delusional about the "greatness" of Tiny Tim.
Mr. March indeed, because he can't make it to April.
UConn basketball feels like UM football- just kind of squeeze the life out of the other team over the course of the game. Balanced, unselfish roster - elite defense and offensive efficiency.
Inevitable, undeniable.
Fuck the B1G
Mullings is a tank with nimble feet...Haskins 2.0.
Went back and watched the all the games from this past season and Mullings was our 2nd best back over the course of the season. Edwards, of course, is dynamic and always a big play threat as seen against PSU and Washington, but he struggled for much of last year, tbh.
Assuming Edwards can revert to 2022 form, with more explosives and better vision and balance at the line, the duo will be one of the tops in the nation. Corum was special in his ability to get both explosive plays and always be good for an extra 2-3 yards after contact on inside runs - but don't think we'll have that luxury this year embodied in just 1 back. O-line will need to grow up fast.
Beating a good team twice in a year is very difficult.
That said, UM was the best team in the country last year and OSU did not have the offense to move it on UM consistently.
JJ was hurt going into the game and I think a rematch would have actually favored UM more. McCord was not going to get any better in a playoff, JJ probably would.
The only game UM seemingly lost control of was the Bama game, and that was mostly due to ridiculously poor special teams play which was a 10-14 point swing during regulation of that game.
UGA was probably the #2 team in the nation last year and had the passing attack to potentially threaten UM...glad BAMA beat them in the SEC championship.
No
And
Recently…
Thoughts:
No
And
Recently, many players have had incredible potential that never came to fruition in Columbus
Similar to a Columbus Bukkake?
Where they gather around in a circle and poop in the same cooler?
League…
No, fuck the B1G
League went all in propping up OSU football since the BCS era started, believing it would be the conference’s flagship program- and for most of that 25 year period they seemingly made the correct choice. But the inability to pivot or at least equally brand multiple elite programs is unforgivable. Bama, UGA, LSU, Florida have all been celebrated and supported by the SEC during their runs of elite play- the conference was wise enough to not choose favorites.
Then shit football programs crapping on UM football post Stalions bs was gross. If they were so offended by the “cHEATinG!” , they should give back the revenues UM made them the past 3 years in making the playoffs.
Fuck the B1G- except maybe Minnesota- who has a head coach, Fleck, with the football IQ and honesty to acknowledge how great UM was this past year.
Harbaugh…
Soft pussy, lol
Harbaugh nailed it - Born on 3rd has literally become a meme.
Entire thing…
Fake News!
Entire thing believable until the claim of lasting 25 with Barrett in arm wrestling.
Nobody survives that long and all leave with at least a dislocated shoulder or snapped elbow....often much worse.
will they…
Edwards… whoa
will they catch him, no!
Fire Warde
JJ has all he physical gifts and leadership intangibles and toughness (played hurt) you'd ever want in a QB. His teammates love him and no reason he can't succeed in the NFL.
That said, the league is a crapshoot and so much depends on where you get drafted, how you get developed, the system, the coaches, etc. See Lamar Jackson - if a team doesn't bet on him and build an offense around him, he's probably a 3rd stringer or not even in the league at this point
It's also impossible to predict how a QB will translate to the change in speed of the game from college to pros...it's the biggest and most difficult jump for any position on the field. The QB has to process so much and the physical tools almost become secondary to reading defenses, the field, going through progressions and understanding leverage.
JJ played in a pro-style offense which helps. He is also very young, meaning he has more upside and time to learn the position than some of his peers.
While JJ played in a complex scheme with multiple shifts and packages, he did not play in a complex passing scheme with multiple route trees and choice routes on each play - something all NFL QB's must learn to process quickly.
I would never doubt JJ, but also understand he is probably best off sitting for a year or 2 before needing to lead a team as the franchise QB.
Current National Champ
Hang a hundred!
What's the vibe in…
Nittany,
What's the vibe in PSU circles these days? My take, fwiw...
1) Expanded playoff probably exciting given PSU is a top 15ish program and would have made multiple playoffs under Franklin under this new system
2) Watching UM the past 3 years probably gives PSU some more hope, given we don't recruit at Bama, UGA, OSU levels - but more at PSU levels
3) Maybe time to move on from Franklin though? Given PSU resources and history, folks probably expecting an elite product - or at least a team that can make a title run once every 5-10 years - something it doesn't seem Franklin can develop.
I actually think now is the perfect time for PSU to cut ties with Franklin as I'm not sure births into the expanded playoff and subsequent losses to football factory SEC schools will keep the fanbase happy.
Not trying to be smarmy here either, honest question, as...If UM doesn't figure out NIL, we very may well fall into the same bucket - as what Harbaugh and staff pulled off the past 3 years in development, scheme and talent identification was the perfect storm, and not sure if it is replicable going forward - specifically in this newer, even more mercenary era of CFB.
Just thankful for Jim and the team to have experienced this past year before all these changes happen.
Yup. Still says we and us about UM.
Love how he said, "Our receivers did a great job as well", talking about pro day and catching passes from JJ.
Chef’s kiss
LOL. Sounded like Trump if he were to shit on a basketball coach.
And Tiny Tim lives up to his name, Mr. March.
Season never seems to make it to April.
"wAIt TiLl BASkeTBalL sEaSON!"
At Qmatic...100%. I mentioned this once in top plays of the year.
If you watch the all 22, the quick reaction by Moore, the ground he covers, and the angle he takes to make the tackle are perfection. 75% may be too modest, tbh. That was an NFL play that by Rod Moore to save a TD, one that maybe 10% of college safeties can make.
Agree. McCord is a good college QB and could win and be developed at UM.
Almost anybody is going to look mid coming after CJ Stroud or Justin Fields.
Ryan Day's QB-centric offense does nothing to take pressure off the QB position.
Any QB, even Brady and Mahomes, could have an off day - specifically when going up against d-lines that are in your face all day. Pressure is the great equalizer...getting pressure with just the front 4 tilts the advantage to the defense.
Ryan Day is still trying to out Texas Tech opponents, not realizing that this allows them to nuke the Hoosiers and Sparties of the world by 49 by halftime, but doesn't work at the expected 50-50 rate when facing equal talent or scheme (UM, Bama, UGA).
Stockpiling all that elite talent across the field and then putting 80% of the game on the QB's shoulders is idiocy. It creates a dynamic where the team's performance week to week can be much higher variance than it should be. Lincoln Riley has also had to learn this the hard way.
In the NFL, QB play is often the margin because there is so much parity across entire rosters across the league - so that one position (along with d-line if its elite) can be the margin - hence, NFL games have far fewer blowouts than college.
I like the cut of your jib sir.
But Sharty and Pooper Cooler fans said all of Michigan's good players were 32 year Old 12th year Covid seniors - the only way UM could ever win a National Title...
Oh, and
ConNOr STalLIonS!!!
…
Yeah, Day is a pussy.
Excuse machine, unhinged wreck of a coach.
Sad.....Not really.
Glorious, actually
So true. Reflection of their coach. You can actually see when they lose hope… it’s glorious.
Going back to halftime in The Game in 2021, after getting bully balled but keeping it close for the first half, they were shook in the tunnel. Down just 14-13, but they were getting bullied, and while UM fans had ptsd, there was no doubt amongst the players on both sides that day, at that moment, about which way that game was going.
Again, in 2022, they come in as favorites with Corum injured, and while bottling up the running game with 8-9 in the box early, gave up big pass plays over the top. Again, when UM took the lead @24-20, the game was over. Soft team, anxious team, folded like a cheap suit. Stadium had a cloud of doubt, fear and anxiety. UM closed exactly as one would expect, with Edwards running up the gut twice for two explosive 75 yard + tds, on that mentally weak team, and the UM defense holding them to 3 second half points.
And this year, to their credit, they managed to keep it closer- and actually had a manball run first drive to tie it at 17. But again, their defense folded, giving up the go ahead TD on the very next drive (the Zinter drive) and then getting choked out on UM’s final fg drive that ran off 8min of the clock. That final Corum run to the edge for a first down, and you could see their spirit break. Zinter injured, Will Johnson injured, JJ dinged up, but still, OSU never mentally tough enough to steal that game, Day too big a pussy to line up and keep running against our elite D-line. Needed a miracle on that last drive with 1 min left, but sorry cryin Ryan, there are no Hollywood endings for pussies.
tldr: That entire fanbase is shook and broken, praying their purchased Avengers roster gets over the hump this year.
I disagree. Our D-line is better than OSU and we would have a returning QB, OSU not.
Our O-line unproven, theirs proven to be mid.
We would probably be #2 after UGA in terms of Title favorites.
Unhinged penguin.
Guy is becoming a caricature of a broken, unhinged, overly sensitive leader.
Folks are not dumb and can see through fraudulent.
Day is such a fraud, hence lining up an Avengers roster for him to get over the hump, despite having top talent composite rosters since taking over.
Total pussy.
Yes.
Like the Lebron "dick-riders" winning championships?
Brian Cook is a grumpy, self-made entrepreneur. He is not an ass-licking do-nothing desk jockey who plays the system or understands maneuvering the political realities of an Athletic Department and Board of trustees.
It's a nice pipe dream and would be the perfect counter to Warde, and is therefore never happening.
Will Johnson? Just a Junior, but so is Graham.
Probably our 2 best players, with Grant and Moore close behind.
That said, who are the best leaders. I know Moore gets high praise in that aspect.
WR…
OSU 3rd and short....
WR screen
Or
Jet Sweep
Ryan Day is a pussy.