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Jay may have been a heck of…

Jay may have been a heck of a recruiter and his special teams were really good but when Wheatley left, the the running game production kinda fell off. It did pick back up significantly when Hart was hired. Makes me believe that guys who played the position had more insight and better understanding of how to prepare the kids.  No knock on Jay, he just seemed better in other roles.

Are they really trying to…

Are they really trying to say that no one would have or could have found out the details of the agreement but-for FSU spilling the beans?????

So, coming off of a N.C. and…

So, coming off of a N.C. and losing "the Guy" sucks. It implies things won't be the same. The best thing for the program is to put out the energy that things will be the same, particularly with the culture and winning tradition. It's very hard to convince people of that unless much of the same staff stays intact. Fortuitous circumstances put a young coach in a position to show the world he was up to the task, at one of the blue-bloods of college football. Virtually unheard of. The fact that he's always done recruiting the O Line before other position groups get started speaks volumes. He's passed the test with all A's and hiring Moore was the best thing we could do to send the message that things wont change much. 

My hope is Jim doesn't take much of the staff with him. I think that Hart should be promoted to OC. He's been coaching for longer than most of the assistants on staff. I think Mintor was great on defense and Clink just resonates with these kids and they love playing for him. Either one would make a great DC and both have earned it. I hope we can keep them both, but I want the guy who's been calling the plays, that win games. Lastly, the strength and conditioning coach Herbert seems to have been a game changer. I wouldn't want to lose him either.  Go Blue!!!!    

OMG, I remember that too…

OMG, I remember that too. The anticipation was like a kid waiting for Christmas. 

That's what I'm talking…

That's what I'm talking about. But, somehow, I just kind of knew he would be the guy yo do it. 

  https://youtu.be/DWnWXx5sNdA

 

My thoughts were when they…

My thoughts were when they got the commitment of the guy from Fl. they had plans to bring in 2 QB's anyway. Not that he would be the only guy they would recruit and take. Seems like they were in a good spot with McIntyre from TN, Montgomery from OH., Longstreet and Bear (both) from CA.

Another Mc at Michigan would be super but I think you could realistically get Montgomery, a kid from Findley, OH, which is really close and who was snubbed by OSU and might have something to prove. Ohio kids who go to UM tend to do well here.

No Thanks. Only want Harb…

No Thanks. Only want Harb. He's our guy.

I saw Caleb Love playing a…

I saw Caleb Love playing a week ago and he was a beast.

Where are the two CB's we…

Where are the two CB's we were recruiting? Lets see if they're having a change of heart.

When will they realize that…

When will they realize that Harb is our guy. Almost all people who are great at something, are a little eccentric. This guy has built a program and system that works whether he's coaching the sideline or not. He's going to go down in history as one of the best to ever coach football. So what he had a couple of (minor) hiccups. Call it growing pains, but we can live with those. He doesn't strike me as the serial cheater type. For the most part, he runs a clean program, compared to the pay for play programs that use kids and teach them nothing about life or manhood. He loves the game, he loves these kids and UM would be crazy not to give him the lifetime deal that keeps him in the top 5, for as long as he wants to coach. Not sure anyone coaching, loves Michigan more and could do a better job, nor do I want to find out.     

We need to circle back to…

We need to circle back to those two CB's we were recruiting and see if they've had a change of heart. Seems like the perfect time. We're going to CFP for the 3rd year in a row, OSU is basically imploding . . .

The point is that they've…

The point is that they've earned the right to get a shot at it.

I love this guy. He's…

I love this guy. He's obviously going to be special. I just hope that he gets a really great mentor and loads of help developing his special skill set. He could be the next star to come out of Michigan. And Harb put him in the impromptu interview because he was saying to him, " since you like to talk, talk to the real media (not snap chat) on a day when you've done something special". And the kid didn't disappoint. Go Semaj . . .  LMAO!!!!   

But a complete shut-out in a…

Buckeye Chuck, but 3 straight wins over OSU, 3 straight Big 10 championships and a complete shut-out in the last championship game is more impressive than that.

The problem with not picking…

The problem with not picking Fl. State is it totally sends the wrong message and reeks of dishonesty. Football is a team sport and to not include a team because one person got hurt is stupid. Albeit the player who is hurt is the QB, there are dozens of other players who contributed and sacrificed for those wins.

A QB can't win games alone. He needs 10 more offensive players, 11 on defense, a special teams unit and a coaching staff, who are all outstanding, to go undefeated. Actually, Fl. State managed to win a few games without their starting QB. Therefore, you can't negate what everyone else contributed, for one man's misfortune. Those kids can't change who they play or don't play.  They have 3 quality wins and are a blue-blood program from a power 5 conference. Most importantly, they've eaten everything on their plate, every time and they have yet to lose to anyone.

As much as I'd love to play them in a 1 vs. 4 matchup, they technically should be a 3 and we get Texas, which is far scarier because Texas has multiple weapons and can beat you in a lot of ways, much like us. This narrative of excluding the SEC would be wrong because they're conference is so great, is B.S. Everyone agreed to play by the same metrics. They lost games and the other's haven't, Period!!!! Texas soundly beat Bama in Tuscaloosa and Bama beat Georgia in Atlanta. Texas should edge out both (Transitive Property), for the college educated dummies arguing otherwise. I have cheese to go with their wine.

I think these assistants…

I don't think Harb is going anywhere. Michigan is the dream job and he knows his place in all of football history is set here. He built this program and it works whether he's on the sidelines or not. I think these assistants know the time is right, if they have aspirations of becoming a H.C. at a power 5 school.  This would be a great time to make the jump. I guess I'd rather see Mike at Syracuse than Indiana. We don't eat our young. 

Here we go. I didn't think…

Here we go. I didn't think about Indiana for Mike. I thought he might go to Syracuse. It makes sense and he definitely deserves a shot at HC.

Hopefully Fl. State.

Hopefully Fl. State.

Hopefully Fl. State.

Hopefully Fl. State.

Hopefully Fl. State.

Hopefully Fl. State.

Michigan

Georgia

Michigan

Georgia

Washington

Oregon 

Alabama

I love Smaj. He's still…

I love Semaj. He's still young and will learn where best to channel his emotions. Talent like yours belongs on the field young man!!!!

I think James Ross may be…

I think James Ross may be ready. He's had successful stints at Hope, Cincinnati and is currently at Tulane doing a great job. He's a former LB at Michigan, knows and understands the culture, he has character, great integrity, from the Detroit area and bleeds Maize and Blue. They should give him a shot. 

Ok Bro. I'll bite.

I have…

Ok Bro. I'll bite.

I have never liked OSU from as far back as I can remember but as I grew older I had to learn to give respect where respect is due. As much as I don't like Ohio State, I respect the fact that Marvin Harrison Jr. is the best receiver in college football, hands down. As much as I hate to say it, Zeke Elliott was a generational talent in college and he proved it, so I respect his contribution to "The Game".  As much as I hated Boston, I still believe that Byrd was the best white player I have ever seen play and he gets respect. As much as I didn't like MJ in his prime, He has my respect as the best to play the game in my lifetime (to this point) and probably ever.

As for Urban Meyer, he has been a winner almost everywhere he's been. I hated watching his teams beat us year in and year out, at a time when we lacked true consistency or an elite coach who could rebuild Michigan into the winning program i grew up watching. Once again I have a healthy respect for Meyer and what he has accomplished. I too would love to see him and Harb (now that he has built a winning program and has his sea legs), battle it out, year after year for the title, "King in the North". 

The fact is, Harb has done more with less talent, if you trust the star rankings. Both are worthy of their reputations. Day, on the other hand was given the golden ticket and he is simply not on Harbs or Meyer's level as a coach and he wasn't even on Moore's level last Saturday. There's a reason he can't win the big games, even with the talent OSU attracts. It's because he's a fairly good coach but he's not elite and we will keep kicking the shit out of him until OSU gets tired and finds another truly successful coach like a Meyer, Saban, or a Harbaugh. 4real, 4real.

How about holding up signs…

How about holding up signs in the back ground?

Aside from Sparty, I was…

Aside from Sparty, I was responding to the commissioners assertions that somehow knowing a teams signs, poses a danger to the other team. I just don't see a real and tangible connection. Maybe I'm just missing the how the two connect. Because every team scouts for the purpose of uncovering their opponents habits and/or plays, the argument Sparty and the commissioner makes is tenuous at best, unless their admitting that all scouting and uncovering of your opponents signs poses a danger to all opponents. 

I think they should explore…

I think they should explore all possibilities and keep their options open because the commissioner has obviously shown bias in how he will govern us. Because the conference has 4 new teams with a brand coming aboard, the leverage we had isn't as great. They could certainly make things difficult once this agreement ends and make sure that the commissioner isn't allowed to have the unfettered power he is attempting use against us. His power becomes less and less each day. Forgive me for saying so but, we are founding members of this conference and we should lead, rather than throw a tantrum and leave, to the satisfaction of our detractors.  IJS

That's bull crap!!! …

That's bull crap!!!  Football is an inherently dangerous sport to begin and all participants are supposed to play within the rules. Because you might know someone's signs doesn't mean that your players are going to play dirty. In fact, we are one of the least penalized teams in the country, so to say the players are in more danger because someone knew what they were going to do is an absurd assumption, that can't be proven. P. State knew what we were going to do when we ran the ball 32 straight times and none of the players were in any more danger than if they had not known what we were going to do. They simply couldn't stop a better team.   

That part.

That part.

What Saturday proved to me…

What Saturday proved to me is that P. State knew exactly what we were going to do, after we ran it the first 10 times in a row. Despite having the # 2 defense in the nation, they still couldn't stop it, the next 22 times we ran it.

 The truth is everybody steals signs and the competitive advantage of knowing a teams signs is over-rated if you can't stop it. If knowing a teams signs was that important, any coach making over a million dollars a year would be derelict in his duty not to change them or protect them. This whole sign stealing mess is way over-blown because OSU, Rutgers, P. State and the other complainers, did changed their signs and they still got their asses beat by a better team. They knew our signs and shared them with each other or knew what we were going to do (like P. State) but still couldn't stop us.

What's more egregious to the notion of sportsmanship is colluding with and receiving help from other teams to win. 3 or 4 against 1 has never been fair. Point proven because it speaks for itself Mr. Commissioner, now do something about a real problem. 

 

I think that they're not…

I think that they're not capitulating to the idea Stallions broke the rules without stronger evidence because they believed that he gathered his info. the same way all others who gather info. do. Now, you have to prove he did it differently.  

I wouldn't fold that easily…

I wouldn't fold that easily. Like Santa said, Where is the rock solid iron clad evidence you have that Stallions did what he is accused of? I'm not talking about what the media has said or a theory. Do you have evidence and can you prove it? We don't get to Harb until you can prove that part.

What I'm having trouble with…

What I'm having trouble with is that three or four teams can collude with each other to bring down one team. Something seems inherently unfair with this. For their to be fair competition it must be one team against one team. We learned this going back to our days on the playground as kids. How could they say that's fair with a straight face? 

Maybe the difference is that…

Maybe the difference is that everywhere Harb has gone he has produced championship level teams that compete. Are they missing that this guy has a recipe for winning? Period!!!

What's really troubling to…

What's really troubling to me is that this has gotten to the point where this neg. PR campaign is targeting the players. Now Blake Corum has to answer questions from reporters about his relationships with Stallions. There's nothing to suggest anything improper is going on, (even if he does have a business relationship with him) he is at liberty to do that, just like you or I. It still hasn't been determined that Stallions has done anything wrong but the mere mention of him associated with a player somehow makes his relationship with Corum nefarious? GTFOH!!! He was on the staff and they likely crossed paths and perhaps have some relationship. OMG, go after Harb. if you wanna, he can handle media scrutiny and has the best lawyers in the business, but just leave our kids out of it. 

This whole thing about…

This whole thing about several schools stealing Michigan's signs and sharing them with each other is illegal as well as unethical and needs to be fully investigated by the NCAA and the Big10 to get down to the bottom of who did what, when, where and how!!!!

Best Paul Bunyon stand in…

Best Paul Bunyon stand in Michigan history.

I like having a local…

I like having a local product with Detroit swag, come home with something to prove. We didn't give up much, and I think this will be a good thing for us. 

If Bob Bad Actor had been…

If Bob Bad Actor had been granted access to files, it assuredly would be to do his work, and not for ANY other purpose. I don't believe you need to say to Bob Bad Actor, who's doing work supposedly for the benefit of UM, "don't share this with OSU", C'mon.

Your analysis is absolutely solid and if we can agree on the above, just a couple of questions:

1. Would a reasonable person believe Bob Bad Actor had permission to share files with the NCAA, PI firm or OSU without the consent of the owner? I know I don't and my business isn't football.

2. Once NCAA, PI firm or OSU had those files, could THEY reasonably believe the source of the information was from someone who had permission to share it with THEM and they could further disseminate it? I don't think so, and I wouldn't share info. that I thought was illegally shared with me. 

I guess the question is whether criminal liability attaches (in this scenario) and without having looked at ANY applicable statue/criminal code, I wouldn't say YES at this point. I would think civil liability is almost a given though. What do you think?

If Brady didn't have as many…

If Brady didn't have as many Super Bowl rings, Playoff appearances,  MVP's and pretty good statistics, I might think about it but most people would agree that what he did during his career, was based on him and not the football. 

I think a no loss Big 10…

I think a no loss Big 10 east team will get in as will a one loss Big 10 east team. Like last year.

I agree, with technology and…

I agree, with technology and information sharing, the rule is out of touch with what's the reality of the CFB landscape. 

USC definitely has a shot…

USC definitely has a shot with Caleb Williams. If they keep it as close as Stanford did . . .

Missouri is playing the back to back CFB Champion. Most teams will give it everything they have. 

Rutgers could surprise folks because Schiano was a coach under Day and he has OSU's signals.  

That was what I thought too…

That was what I thought too Red_Lee. (Being careful about my words) But, If the PI firm obtained information that was taken by an "employee" of Stalions without his consent or the owners consent and they knew it was without consent, I would think they would be culpable if they further disseminate that information.

Irrespective of pressure, coercion, passwords or other nuances to the facts. Is that right or wrong?

Hensons Mobile . . . just…

Hensons Mobile . . . just wondering if the "or something" would include disseminating the info. that they received, knowing that it was obtained without the permission of the owner?

Don't know if you had a…

Don't know if you had a chance to read in depth, the text messages between Tracy and her bestie but it does look like she had nefarious motives to begin (IJS) Not to support victim blaming or minimizing trauma but if what was released is true, Tracy wasn't honest about the consensual nature of their relationship, among other things. 

If you haven't read them, it's a good read and adds some perspective. Sparty might have rushed to judgement because they weren't happy with Tucks on-field performance as measured by his pay and they wanted to find any way to get out of that contract. Anxious to see how this plays out.

 

I hope not. I really wanted…

I hope not. I really wanted to see what these two guys could do. Both Clemons and O'Leary have so much potential but I haven't seen much of them. Perhaps they're not blocking?

I think I get it. Are you…

I think I get it. Are you saying that guys like Moten, Anthony, or AJ Henning were a little long in the tooth but would probably be more serviceable that the freshmen who just aren't ready??? 

Bruh, Semaj is playing. No…

Bruh, Semaj is playing. No if ands or buts about it.