It appears we also have been involved in catfish games....
https://twitter.com/KyleRowland/status/297349699294330880
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Brandon = Tuiasosopo?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:22 AM
#1
Brandon = Tuiasosopo?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:25 AM
#2
I really want to know who got
I really want to know who got catfished and who in the AD did the catfishing.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:39 AM
#3
More Info
On the UM catfishing: They had an attractive female contact athletes on social media. Some athlete responses were wholly inappropriate.
— Kyle Rowland (@KyleRowland) February 1, 2013
Brandon had meeting with players, and the girl walked in. Athletes were shocked, but it was valuable lesson in dangers of social media.
— Kyle Rowland (@KyleRowland) February 1, 2013
February 1st, 2013 at 11:44 AM
#4
But....
if they had an ACTUAL attractive lady contact them, the it wouldn't be catfishing then would it?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:50 AM
#5
Bucyeye Twitter dude
does not understand the definition of catfish. Chick on the other end should be ugly or a dude.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:12 PM
#6
Hey Now
Naked Fat Internet Guy needs love too.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:03 PM
#7
To be fair
To be fair, all buckeyes are either ugly chicks or dudes.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:53 AM
#10
So basically they just
So basically they just lied....right?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:25 PM
#11
What am I missing
with the date and time on that? Will it happen this afternoon, or was it in China?
February 1st, 2013 at 3:26 PM
#12
By inappropriate I assume
By inappropriate I assume they mean "attempted to have sex with a person they found attractive as soon as possible". Also know as what 70% of this campus is doing on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:27 AM
#13
Kyle Rowland is a schmuck
Kyle Rowland is a schmuck
February 1st, 2013 at 11:29 AM
#14
Eew. The idea of Brandon
going all Hot Lips on our athletes. Nothing against anyone's chosen forms of sexuality, everything against Brandon as make-believe partner in same. He couldn't just TELL them about it?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:45 AM
#15
who knows
maybe Brandon thinks he can turn this into a TV show and make $$$$$$
February 1st, 2013 at 6:12 PM
#16
Sexuality is not
- Sexuality is not chosen
- Your 'Hot Lips' comment made me think of silence of the lambs, where buffalo bill (while applying lipstick and looking in the mirror) says "Would you f*** me? I'd f*** me, I'd f*** me so hard."
EDIT: Just picture Dave Brandon doing it on the other side of the computer. Just do it. Ya know what? Don't. I did it, it's bad.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:29 AM
#17
Story has cracked deadspin
Story has cracked deadspin too. But it just has a link to Rowland's twitter page....http://deadspin.com/5980824/
February 1st, 2013 at 11:31 AM
#18
Different kind of catfish games. Brandon wants the
women's gymnastics team to wear skates and wrestle catfish during stoppage of play at Michigan hockey games. Brandon claims, "it adds to the WOW factor".
February 1st, 2013 at 11:43 AM
#19
Should have them learn how to
Should have them learn how to rollerblade too. Then they can do the same thing for football.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:15 PM
#20
If this was not photoshopped, I am not sure what to say
in regards to that picture
February 1st, 2013 at 12:18 PM
#21
Title
I'm going to say: Scandinavia
February 1st, 2013 at 1:15 PM
#24
We are all in favor of this!
I
February 1st, 2013 at 11:36 AM
#25
hmmmmm...
Is his pimp hand the one that works the mouse?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:36 AM
#26
This is quite
This is quite interesting...
I am very curious how the catfishing occured...
I suppose it is a good idea to do whatever it takes to ensure following policies and avoiding embarassment though....
February 1st, 2013 at 12:04 PM
#27
Bits and pieces rolling
Bits and pieces rolling in...
It sounds like they had a picture of a female athlete and contacted the players. Some players responded with inappropriate comments. Brandon had a sitdown with them and had the female athlete walk in, which surprised the players. Overall, not a bad way of doing things.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:37 AM
#28
How am I supposed to believe
How am I supposed to believe anything out of Dave Brandon's mouth anymore? What if Crisler and Yost weren't actually renovated? What if we're all living a sham!??!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!??!
February 1st, 2013 at 12:38 PM
#29
-
All of the athletic facility renovations are just holographic projections. The power source and projection mechanism are located deep in the basement of Schembechler Hall.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:37 AM
#30
Actually
This is probably not a bad idea. Many young kids today have an "it can't possibly happen to me" attitude. Telling kids about how this can happen and actually showing that it can happen TO THEM are two different things. I kind of like the athletic department being proactive and thinking outside of the box on this.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:44 AM
#31
Agreed
It's a little bit like the old-fashioned dad who finds his son smoking and then makes him smoke a whole pack of cigarettes at once. A lot of people, especially young people, have to be burned before they learn a lesson (and sometimes so do I, for that matter).
February 1st, 2013 at 11:51 AM
#32
hmmmm....
Athletics discipline Dave Brandon Style.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:06 PM
#33
I agree with you 100%.
It is not hard to envision them feeling that way.
I don't know where DB comes up with his idea of a D1 athletes behavior, of course.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:38 AM
#34
George Bluth
Love the George Bluth reference on the Twitter snapshot in the OP. Absolutely.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:48 AM
#35
That's why you always leave a
That's why you always leave a note. - J. Walter Weatherman
February 1st, 2013 at 11:39 AM
#36
edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at
edsbs (@edsbs) tweeted at 8:44am - 1 Feb 13:
If Michigan is catfishing, Alabama will be setting up full "The Game" scenarios that end with recruits crashing through glass ceilings. (https://twitter.com/edsbs/status/297354630554337280)
February 1st, 2013 at 11:40 AM
#37
Per MLive Beat Reporter Kyle
Per MLive Beat Reporter Kyle Meinke, the AD had a real girl contact them, so even Michigan's fake encounters with girls online are better than ND's.
MT @KyleRowland DB had meeting w/ players, the girl walked in. Athletes were shocked, but it was valuable lesson in dangers of social media
February 1st, 2013 at 11:42 AM
#38
This shit is creepy as fuck.
This shit is creepy as fuck. All of it.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:43 AM
#39
The world we live in is
The world we live in is creepy as fuck. All of it.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:44 AM
#40
Is it...Truiasasopo?
Is it...Truiasasopo?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:45 AM
#41
So bad it's good?
I vote yes.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:47 AM
#42
Why are people
The part I don't understand is why are people using social media to MEET other people. I get that people use social media like maniacs to communicate with people they already know - it's not for me but I get it, and I love twitter for news and humor - but people try to meet chicks on social media?
Maybe I'm just too much of a visceral dude (or an shallow a-hole), but what good is a girlfriend you can't have sex with or touch her bewbs?
February 1st, 2013 at 11:50 AM
#43
I *think*
I think they hope that the social media will lead to the bewbs part.
February 1st, 2013 at 2:48 PM
#44
Well then...
Well then, I suggest you search #freecrunkbear if you're looking for a fun time.
Here's a NSFW collage one of her students put together....Yes, she is their teacher. Wow.
February 2nd, 2013 at 3:44 AM
#45
Wait, what??
Whose teacher is this? Where do I sign up for her classes?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:24 PM
#46
Your not meeting people, you
Your not meeting people, you just want to see boobies (and I guess dicks?)
**snapchat
**KIK Messenger
Go look at the app store "reviews" on these apps, people posting A/S/L but "no pervs please".
February 1st, 2013 at 2:32 PM
#47
Hey Mr. Sushi . . .
I feel the same way, so drop me a line . . . .
February 1st, 2013 at 1:05 PM
#48
Can't expect Ohio to act
Can't expect Ohio to act intelligently about anything.
February 1st, 2013 at 4:25 PM
#49
I know #1000SS is a reference
I know #1000SS is a reference to Brandon, but what does it mean?
February 1st, 2013 at 6:09 PM
#50
It's the address to the
It's the address to the athletic department, 1000 South State Street
February 1st, 2013 at 11:53 AM
#51
I like it. I think it's a
I like it. I think it's a smart way to get the point across, in a more or less controlled way.
But jeez:
On the UM catfishing: They had an attractive female contact athletes on social media. Some athlete responses were wholly inappropriate.
— Kyle Rowland (@KyleRowland) February 1, 2013
How can you be that dumb, especially with all of the Teo stuff that's gone down recently?
February 1st, 2013 at 1:34 PM
#52
Yeah that's awkward
It's like Dateline but with Dave Brandon instead.
Dave Brandon: "So star athlete, our online chat record shows here that you said you'd like to put your **** in her **** and then **** and **** until **** and with her mom **** **** **** jello ****....what do you have to say for yourself?"
February 1st, 2013 at 3:14 PM
#53
Why don't you take a seat?
Why don't you take a seat? Here, have a seat.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:56 AM
#54
So we can only employ unattractive women?
what is the point?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:02 PM
#55
Intern Just Happens to Be
Intern Just Happens to Be Beautiful 22-Year-Old Woman...
http://www.theonion.com/articles/intern-just-happens-to-be-beautiful-22y...
February 1st, 2013 at 11:58 AM
#56
define "inappropriate
define "inappropriate response". If a hot girl comes onto you, what else are you going to do? Its probably not like the atheletes offered to whip out credit cards and pay for her meals sight unseen.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:01 PM
#57
Yeah and also they used a
Yeah and also they used a real girl, who I assume used her real social media profiles. That makes it a lot more believable as opposed to Te'o, who fell for like 3 facebook pictures, a twitter account, and a malfunctioning webcam.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:34 PM
#58
Sorry sir, you are assuming
Sorry sir, you are assuming incorrectly.
Why would the girl use her real account to hit on/contact athletes if she's not a starfucker? Especially since they assumed it would illicit some non PC responses, and grandma is probably her Facebook friend. She probably made a second account named "Babycakes McGee" and only uploaded a picture or two. I'm also only assuming, but assumedly I am assuming better.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:21 PM
#59
I think
I think they mean that the guys got to explicit chat/intimate details before they ever had even discussed meeting.
February 1st, 2013 at 11:59 AM
#60
You would think that members
You would think that members of a MICH football or basketball team would be able to pick up some ladies without using facebook. I am dissapoint
February 1st, 2013 at 12:03 PM
#61
You're looking at the wrong
You're looking at the wrong way...FB is a great tool for getting to know girls on campus at a faster pace. My next door neighbor back at UM was a player on the team and he had lots of new friend requests from girls across campus all the time.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:06 PM
#62
Well Can you help me look the right way?
Do I need a new hat, or some new kicks?
But seriously, I understand what its all about, but I'm still dissapointed that MGoAthletes hook up with girls the same way I would. ***
*** If I wasn't a virgin.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:01 PM
#63
Why would Brandon make this
Why would Brandon make this public knowledge? I can understand doing it, but keep it in house.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:04 PM
#64
The only thing I can come up with
Is that Dave Brandon wants to make a Catfish our mascot. What better way to break the news.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:20 PM
#65
The new Arby's Catfish
The new Arby's Catfish Griller, yours with a side of curly fries and a drink for only 5.99. Buy one today and get free admission to an upcoming University of Michigan women's basketball game!
February 1st, 2013 at 12:04 PM
#66
Uh, I'm sure he didn't just
Uh, I'm sure he didn't just put it out there unprovoked. He was speaking publicly this morning and I'm assuming he was asked about the Te'o scandal and social media and how he manages it.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:09 PM
#67
Why not say, "We're engaged
Why not say, "We're engaged in ongoing education campaigns about social media with our scholar-athletes." Keep the details private. There's no reason to further embarass the guys who got suckered.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:17 PM
#68
They didn't release any
They didn't release any names, I don't see any harm in this at all.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:30 PM
#69
Except undermining whatever
Except undermining whatever trust may have existed between the athletes and their ruling bureaucrats
February 1st, 2013 at 1:37 PM
#70
A bunch of athletes getting
A bunch of athletes getting Te'oed is going to find its way to the news sooner or later. Better to break it yourself (glaring at you ND).
February 1st, 2013 at 1:46 PM
#71
All I know is
if my boss pulled some crap like this, spying on employees and using the information to shame us (albeit anonymously) into doing "what's good for us" I would be pissed. I would not trust the people behind it. I would not want to work there.
February 1st, 2013 at 2:18 PM
#72
I'd agree, with one caveat.
I
I'd agree, with one caveat.
I wouldn't expect my company to take it upon themselves to teach me life lessons. I would expect my university to do just that.
That being said, if my boss publicly shamed me for posting on this site when I should be working, I would lose some trust there, yes.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:32 PM
#73
They didn't release the
They didn't release the names, but certainly everyone who was in that meeting knows who got fooled, and now that deadspin knows it occurred, there will certainly be some attempts to ferret out who it was.
And there should be a quid pro quo to the idea that student-athletes shouldn't embarass the university.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:34 PM
#74
Uh, no
THis is not something that could be FOIAed or whatever. The only way the people involved gets out to the public is if a player involved says so, and then the other players can simply deny. At any rate, if one player outed any others, something tells me he wouldn't be a popular guy around campus anymore.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:47 PM
#75
It can't be foia'd, but that
It can't be foia'd, but that doesn't stop people from sniffing around, even students who can then try to sell the story to media sources willing to print it. And if nothing else, it puts the idea out there in the public that Michigan athletes are a bunch of easy marks. If Brandon doesn't say anything, none of that is out there.
EDIT: on further consideration, what makes you so confident that this couldn't be FOIA'ed. I wouldn't think Brandon's correspondence with student-athletes would be protected under FERPA (it's not part of their educational record and Brandon is not involved in a formal educational manner). That's not to say that someone will FOIA this (PITA, little payoff for the effort), but I'm not sure they couldn't.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:55 PM
#76
Because
There's nothing to FOIA. You think that the university created some sort of file of athletes that responded inapproriately?Highly doubtful. Whoever was running the program just kept tabs on the raio of appropriate to inappropriate responses. This isn't a drug sting. They didn't sit the individual kids down and shake their fingers in their faces.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:09 PM
#77
He kept the names in-house.
By making it public, perhaps he won't have to repeat it as often.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:11 PM
#78
ok, what I need to know
was when they had the "reveal" in DB's office, did the girl walk in wearing a foam rubber "Arbys curly fries" suit?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:29 PM
#79
I speak for all men when I
I speak for all men when I say, such a revelation would be positively titillating
February 1st, 2013 at 12:20 PM
#80
Guys Guys....
You are a University of Michigan scholarship athlete. Why the heck would you bother getting girls on Twitter/Facebook? Choose a girl on campus. Tell her you are on the football/basketball/hockey team. The rest will be easy. Trust me.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:43 PM
#81
I know from experience dude,
I know from experience dude, if you know what I mean.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:39 PM
#82
No you don't
No you don't
February 1st, 2013 at 2:54 PM
#85
As a college athlete
I met a woman via Facebook, who lived in Philly, that I would never ever have met otherwise. She flew in to see me. It was awesome. We are still friends to this day. Yes I dated plenty of women on campus but sometimes the out of town girl makes a real (see what I did there) connection with you, and isn't your teammates ex GF/roommate's crush/FWB w the swim team/girl who gives # to every athlete etc.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:20 PM
#86
Wouldn't it have been an even
Wouldn't it have been an even bigger shock to them if it hadn't been an attractive girl? Like in walks Ron Jeremy instead?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:40 PM
#87
I'd be super shocked if Ron Jeremy walked in
He had emergency surgery the other day for a heart anaeurysm and is "fighting for his life".
February 1st, 2013 at 12:55 PM
#88
I give up.
What a world we live in, where even Ron Jeremy jokes have become outre'.
I am just glad, that we could roll into one single comprehensive thread; Dave Brandon, fake internet girlfriends, Twitter, recruiting violations, real live female athletes, FOIA's, Gene Smith and Ron Jeremy.
This thread could really be something, if we could figure out how to include Rich Rodriguez and the Free Press but I am totally stumped. My apologies to the Board.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:11 PM
#89
I'm certain that if RR had done this,
the Freep would have found a way to spin it into a negative.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:40 PM
#90
Screw Ron Jeremy, it would
Screw Ron Jeremy, it would have been really interesting if Rich Rod walked in holding a copy of the article about the catfishing that had just run in the FP.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:53 PM
#91
Hey I forgot Arby's curly fries
This thread works Arby's curly fries into the discussion, which is totally brilliant, and I just wanted to mention that. It is a total, complete meal. With a medium beverage of your choice. How can there be any need for any more dicsussion topics after this one?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:22 PM
#92
This story taken at face
This story taken at face value is positively Kakuaesque in its absurdity.
I agree though that it is a really good idea for U-Mich to provide its athletes (who are very visible representatives of the university and its brand(on)) first hand lessons on not shaming yourself via social media. That said, the 'no shame' motif kinda gets undercut when you blab about it to the public after the fact.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:28 PM
#93
Uh...
You really believe this is something that could be kept secret? No chance. Too funny, involves too many people. The basic tentents of good PR say come out with it yourself. Then you can have better control over the public perception. You try to keep it secret, and this is what you ned up with:
University of Michigan employing call girls for student athletes
Michigan Athletes encouraged to 'chat dirty' with university employees
Michigan football players 'catfished' by university staff: Plot to free up scholarships by forcing transfers/entrapment?
Yeah, you don't want that.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:44 PM
#94
Gene Smith says thanks, he
Gene Smith says thanks, he's writing ALL of this down.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:45 PM
#95
OK so the options
OK so the options are:
-Inevitable yet unintended media discovery brings shame and suspicion upon program from outsiders' perspectives
Or
-Deliberate use of "educational" shaming of players as publicity stunt brings shame and suspicion between players and administration
... third option
-Do something else
It may seem small but these sorts of antics can severely corrode the integrity of an organization.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:51 PM
#96
I really disagree
Unless people from within the program who were privy to the whole thing; which is probably Brandon, an attractive and professional private contractor who was paid a massive silence fee, the team head coaches and the players themselves; come out and say who were the parties that sent inappropriate messages, it's not embarassing for anyone but the university itself just a little.
Then you flip that around, and suddenly you've got the folowing points:
1 - A university that cares enough about their athletes to come up with unconventional tactics like this.
2 - Players that are better educated through the school of hard-knocks than another form could ever educate them.
3 - Parents of recruits that see how hard the university will work to educate and protect their kids from something more disasterous than "a little embarassment".
I'll take that any day.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:58 PM
#97
Given your initial
Given your initial assumptions, how does it even come out without Brandon publicly mentioning it?
I agree with all your numbered points, as long as it stays in house. The minute the AD, unprovoked, tells an audience of reporters about it, it appears far less caring.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:00 PM
#98
I should clarify
What I meant is that the thing happening would come out. It would come out that the university was showing the players the dangers of social media in this manner. What should NOT come out is which players responded inappropriately.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:10 PM
#99
But if we take these
But if we take these assumptions (which are essentially your initial assumptions in the prior post)
1. Brandon and his staff aren't going to talk about it publicly
2. The "contractor" isn't going to talk about it publicly
3. The coaches aren't going to talk about it publicly
4. The players aren't going to talk about it publicly
Then it's unclear to me how the story gets out beyond the level of vague campus rumor, a level which rarely makes it into print.
Maybe it does get out, but there's at least a non-zero chance that it doesn't. And if it's discovered later by a reporter in a rumor -> inquiry -> official statement, rather than an off the cuff public announcement of basically "oh yeah, we catfished our athletes," how does that make the story any more damaging? if anything, it makes it seem less so.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:52 PM
#100
Exactly
This reeks of a publicty stunt -- a spectacle. Whatever value is gained from this exercise, the integrity and credibility of those who orchestrated it is undermined when they seize the opportunity for self-congratulation: "Look what we did! Aren't we clever! And oh-so concerned with the well-being of our players!"
Keeping it in-house would have proven that the intent behind the exercise is genuinely for the players' benefit. Even then, there is still a damaging effect on trust. If they'll spy on you for this, what else will they do?
February 1st, 2013 at 12:44 PM
#101
HEY!
whats the deal with these catfish? We got em all over down here in Low eeasy anna. We don't need none of them new fangled twitter baits to cacth 'em neither
February 1st, 2013 at 1:08 PM
#102
That's a fact Jack!
That's a fact Jack!
February 1st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
#103
MGoShoe...
You've just been catfished.
February 1st, 2013 at 12:57 PM
#104
That was a good prank that
That was a good prank that worked for a day. Three years is a far cry from one day and NEVER had ever met her in person in which she is the love of his life. Give me a break.
February 1st, 2013 at 1:47 PM
#105
http://toledoblade.typepad.co
http://toledoblade.typepad.com/inthehouse/2013/02/catfishing.html
I was at the KeyBank Global Leaders forumn today and Dave Brandon was outstanding! I took a couple pages of notes...I'll try to update this board with some relevant topics he brought up later today.
February 1st, 2013 at 2:16 PM
#106
I just want to know how a
I just want to know how a woman gets that sort of job with a consulting agency
February 1st, 2013 at 2:33 PM
#107
Ugh. This is worse that I
Ugh. This is worse that I thought. I thought it was an off the cuff mention to reporters. Instead, it was part of his formal presentation about leadership.
To carry out this campaign is one thing, it serves a defensible pedagogical purpose that can benefit athletes unfamiliar with being in the public eye. But to carry out this campaign, and then to go out at a leadership conference and tell the audience of the naivete or moral failures (depending on how you want to interpret "wholly inappropriate") of the student-athletes under his purview frankly sucks.
February 1st, 2013 at 2:46 PM
#108
Now we know why DB needed two consulting groups
One to monitor the students, and the other to put together a Powerpoint presentation suitable for use at a leadership conference . . .
February 2nd, 2013 at 3:39 AM
#109
Yep. I agree with this
Yep. I agree with this 1000%.
Which leadership lesson is it, Dave, that taught you to set a trap for your student athletes, then publicly throw them under the bus?
Fail.
February 1st, 2013 at 4:58 PM
#110
Would have been more fun if
Would have been more fun if the person walking in was a 400lb bro named Carl.
February 1st, 2013 at 7:55 PM
#111
1/2 catfish?
the players were corresponding with an actual hot woman-- she just wasn't sincere.
i guess it is a lesson that human beings sometimes do not tell the truth.
February 1st, 2013 at 8:26 PM
#112
Gross
That Rachel lenzi shouldn't put her picture up anywhere. Gross.
