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2 hours 20 min ago Perhaps, but isn't it the case...

...that if you feel like DAB is always insulting then pretty much everything he says becomes offensive to some degree or another? I think that's where we are right now with a large segment of this readership.

I choose to be unperturbed by such utterings.

2 hours 30 min ago So, as you are probably aware...

...Michigan has a Hall of Honor...

...to recognize individuals who have made significant contributions as athletes, coaches and administrators to the tradition of Wolverine athletics and, in doing so, have enhanced the image and reputation of the University of Michigan. The Letterwinners M Club Executive Board accepts nominations and presides over the selection of inductees.

Those inducted into the Hall of Honor have earned All-America recognition in a team or individual sport or, as individuals have established an NCAA, American or World record; won an NCAA title, or made significant contributions to the Michigan Athletic Department as a coach or administrator.

There are currently 61 Michigan Hall of Honor inductees who played football. Presumably, some of these student-athletes who were multi-sport stars made their mark primarily in another sport. That said, that's a ton of people who have already been deemed worthy of special recognition by the University. Each student-athlete with a retired or Legends jersey is in the Hall of Honor.

The extensive list:

 

Name

Sport/Years

Year Inducted

Gerald Ford *

Football (1931-34)

1978

Tom Harmon *

Football (1937-40), Basketball (1939)

1978

Bennie Oosterbaan *

Football (1924-27), Basketball (1925-28), Baseball (1925-28),Assistant Football Coach (1928-47), Football Coach (1948-58),Basketball Coach (1938-46)

1978

Willie Heston

Football (1901-04)

1979

Ron Kramer *

Football (1953-56), Basketball (1954-57), Track (1954-57)

1979

Adolph Schulz

Football (1904-05, 1907-08)

1979

Benny Friedman

Football (1923-26), Baseball (1924-27)

1980

Paul Goebel

Football (1919-22)

1981

Harry Kipke

Football (1920-23), Basketball (1922-24), Baseball (1922-24),Asst. Football Coach (1925-27), Football Coach (1929-37)

1981

Willis Ward

Track (1932-35), Football (1931-34)

1981

Wally Weber

Football (1924-26), Assistant Football Coach (1931-58),Wrestling Coach (1945)

1981

Albert Wistert *

Football (1938-42), Wrestling (1942)

1981

Alvin Wistert *

Football (1947-49)

1981

Francis Wistert *

Football (1930-33), Baseball (1931-34)

1981

Robert J. Brown

Football (1922-25)

1983

Julius Franks, Jr.

Football (1941-42)

1983

Henry "Ernie" Vick

Football (1918-21), Baseball (1921-22)

1983

Robert Westfall

Football (1938-41)

1983

Maynard Morrison

Football (1928-31)

1983

Bob Chappuis

Football (1942, 1946-47), Baseball (1946, 1948)

1984

Elroy Hirsch

Football (1943), Basketball (1944), Baseball (1944), Track (1944)

1984

Don Lund

Football (1941-44), Baseball (1942-45), Basketball (1942-45),Baseball Coach (1959-62)

1984

Bill Orwig

Football (1928), Basketball (1927-30), Football Coach (1948-53)

1984

Doug Roby

Football (1920-22), Baseball (1921-22)

1984

Dave Porter

Football (1964-67), Wrestling (1965-68)

1985

Roger Zatkoff

Football (1949-52)

1985

Chalmers "Bump" Elliott

Football (1946-47), Basketball (1947-48), Baseball (1947-48),Football Coach (1959-68)

1986

Pete Elliott

Football (1945-48), Basketball (1946-49), Golf (1946-49)

1986

Dave Nelson

Football (1938-41), Baseball (1939-42)

1986

Jack Blott

Football (1922-23), Baseball (1921-24), Football Coach (1926-33, 1946-58)

1987

Gene Derricotte

Football (1944, 1946-48)

1987

Ralph Heikkinen

Football (1935-38)

1987

Ed Frutig

Football (1937-40)

1988

Merv Pregulman

Football (1940-43)

1988

John Greene

Wrestling (1941-44), Football (1940-43)

1989

Ron Johnson

Football (1966-69)

1989

Frank Nunley

Football (1963-66), Baseball (1965)

1989

Lowell Perry

Football (1949-52)

1989

Richard Volk

Football (1963-66)

1989

Forest Evashevski

Football (1936-40), Baseball (1938-40)

1990

Neil Snow

Football, Baseball, Track (1898-1902)

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Jack Clancy

Football (1964-66)

1992

Bruce Hilkene

Football (1943-44, 1946-47)

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Dick Kempthorn

Football (1946-49), Basketball (1948)

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Jack Weisenberger

Football (1944-47), Baseball (1945-48)

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Terry Barr

Football (1953-56)

1994

Tom Maentz

Football (1953-56)

1994

Jim Mandich

Football (1966-69)

1994

Dan Dierdorf

Football (1967-70), Track (1968)

1996

Len Ford

Football (1945-47)

1996

Anthony Carter

Football (1979-82)

2002

Bennie McRae

Football (1958-61), Track (1959-62)

2002

Chuck Ortmann

Football (1947-50)

2004

Reggie McKenzie

Football (1968-71)

2004

Allen Wahl

Football (1945, 1948-50)

2004

Don Dufek, Sr.

Football (1948-50)

2006

Tom Mack

Football (1964-65)

2006

J. Daniel Cline

Football (1952-54), Baseball (1952-55)

2007

Tom Curtis

Football (1967-69)

2007

Bill Hewitt

Football (1929-32)

2008

Desmond Howard #

Football (1989-92)

2008

Rick Leach

Football (1975-78), Baseball (1976-79)

2009

Dave Brown

Football (1971-74)

2010

* Retired Jersey   # Legends Jersey

The Hall of Honor should not be forgotten amongst all of this Legends jersey discussion. It's a legitimate way to review Michigan greats who have been forgotten to current fans. If there's one player on this list who hasn't been honored with a retired jersey or Legends jersey who probably ought to, it's Benny Friedman, member of both the College Football and Professional Football Halls of Fame.

4 hours 9 min ago This Mike Rothstein...

...WolverineNation piece ($) covering Michigan targets in ESPN's 2014 Super 60, Beilein's 2014 haul may be similarly impressive if he hits on two or more of these guys.

Among the targets:

  • SG Devin Booker, Moss Point, Miss./Moss Point, at 24
  • PF Keita Bates-Diop, Bloomington, Ill./University), at 45
  • SG Bryant McIntosh, Greensburg, Ind./Greensburg, at 50
  • SF Jae’Sean Tate, Pickerington, Ohio/Pickerington Central, at 54
4 hours 35 min ago Yost's hatred of...

...Notre Dame was hardly irrational (at least not the anti-Catholic part of his hatred).

Regarding DAB's comments: Here's a thought. Ignore them. They're patently ridiculous. Why? Because they're trying to come up with any reason at all to support the their abrogation of the (unwinnable) fight for campus or bidded sites for semfinal games. The reason they abrogated isn't because he thinks all that much about players' site preferences or the real B1G slavish devotion to the Rose Bowl, it's because no other conference would support this fight. None. Nada. Zilch. Therefore, that fight was/is not worth fighting, especially when the fight they really care about (top 4 vs. conf champs vs. hybrid) is being actively waged. So these reasons they're throwing out are non-sensical to you because they are in fact, non-sensical. Don't pull your hair out as a result.

5 hours 6 min ago Ace, there's a third option...

...to consider if you turn this comment of yours on its head:

...the awarding of a Legend jersey loses some of its luster if half of the starting 22 is rocking a patch every year.

The fact is that Michigan's is the most historic program in college football. It therefore stands to reason that Michigan should have a substantial number of players who have made their mark on Michigan football and in many cases on college football in general.

So option three is to recognize that we have dozens of legends and embrace it. Stop trying to pretend that because Michigan football has an embarrassment of riches that it should downplay this fact. In contrast to your statement I quoted, I think that it would be pretty freaking cool to see an offense or defense with multiple Legends jerseys running around on national TV.

Finally, the way you solve the #1 conundrum is that instead of simply honoring AC, you honor AC and Braylon on the patch. Essentially if a player wears a Legends jersey and he himself becomes a Legend, his name should be added to the patch. So after #77 is made a Legacy jersey and the next #1 overall pick of the draft dons it, his name would be added to Jake Long's. If Roy Roundtree somehow turns his senior season into a Heisman Trophy season, he has his name added to the patch. Now, both of those things are really unlikely to happen, but no more unlikely to happen than if that future #1 overall pick OT was wearing #71 or Roundtree was still wearing #12 when he won his presumptive Heisman Trophy.

Essentially we want players to revere the tradition of Michigan football from its inception to its today and embrace the players who came before them. We also want to show everyone who tunes into a Michigan game or watches a game highlight or a feature on a Michigan player or comes on a recruiting visit to be constantly reminded of what makes Michigan football special.

7 hours 27 min ago What I like about this particular post...

...is that it's attracting the 60s/70s era MGoBlogerati into the conversation. We need more of your perspective, gents.

(And I'm not just saying this because I'm in my mid-40s and I get called the old guy. Well, maybe that's part of my motivation.)

1 day 4 hours ago Well, I certainly marched...

...onto it. The installation of grass forever altered the Tri-Service Color Guard flag raising routine.

When we had Tartan Turf, we formed up in two columns facing west on the east sideline around the 30-yd line, executed a column left af the flagpole and halted the vanguard of the formation on the goal line. 

I presume they found that the sometimes wet grass made this unworkable. So they changed it to what they do now. Simply march over to the flagpole from the west sideline at the goal line in ranks, halt and face, forming the two columns.

Given today's Field Turf, I wish they'd go back to the old method. Somehow we figured out the timing with the band every time.

 

1 day 6 hours ago Very well done...

...Seth. Must reading for the youngsters among us.

This is Michigan Fergodsakes! History matters!

1 day 22 hours ago Any details on what sorts...

...of recruiting activities Yost found offensive?

2 days 3 hours ago You beat me to the...

...punch as I was about to post this myself.

MVictors.com has several outstanding treatments of this topic that shed some additional light, including much that's offered by John Kryk, author of Natural Enemies:

  • A Century Ago Today: "Notre Dame and Michigan have played their last game together"
  • Blue Books: The Yost-Rockne Feud
  • History Police
  • Gophers Here, Gophers There
  • Joy Miller & the Disgrace of 1909

So what was the feud all about?  Undoubtedly there was some anti-Catholicism in spite of his protestation to Rockne that:

Creed has nothing to do with it. Three of the last four football captains at Michigan have been Catholic and many of my best friends are…. [emphasis added]

But ultimately, it was about Yost's conclusion that Notre Dame simply flouted the rules. Yost was ruthless about protecting the Michigan program and fighting anyone who dared to upset its dominance. He clearly felt that Notre Dame ran a program that gave it advantages over its competitors (more games on the schedule, freshmen team that played intercollegiately, questions about the eligibility of players, and the use of the Notre Dame shift that put up to 4 players in motion at the snap). In particular:

The [1909 loss to Notre Dame] rankled Yost and his team, because Michigan was observing the new Conference rules that barred freshmen and limited player eligibility to three years, while Notre Dame was still wantonly playing freshmen and four-year men.

Michigan grudgingly rescheduled Notre Dame for 1910, solely to give Yost and the players a shot at redemption. But they insisted Notre Dame play by Michigan’s rules — namely, no playing any freshmen or four-year men.

rule_6
Rule 6 of the 1910 Notre Dame-Michigan game contract

Come fall, three of Notre Dame’s star players from 1909 returned — grizzled linemen Ralph Dimmick and George Philbrook, and back Lee Matthews. Michigan did more digging into their pasts and found that Dimmick and Philbrook were in their seventh years of college football, after having played one season at the University of Pacific in Oregon, three at Whitman College in Washington state, and two previous at Notre Dame. And Matthews had played at the University of Washington in 1907 and the two previous years at Notre Dame. But it wasn’t as cut-and-dried as that.   Pacific and Whitman weren’t included on the Conference’s "list of colleges" for the determination of counting such years of eligibility, and thus Notre Dame argued these men were only in their third years. 

So Maisel did a good job capturing the feud, but washes over the validity of Yost's concerns about Notre Dame's 1909 and 1910 teams.

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