In defense of whoever preceded Nussmeier at MSU, Smoker not being on blow probably affected the numbers.
no, YOU'RE off topic
How much can Devin Gardner benefit from the change in OCs? Quite a bit, it appears.
Before new offensive coordinator Doug Nussmeier entered the coaching ranks, he was a Walter Payton Award winner (best I-AA player) as a quarterback for Idaho under the tutelage of John L. Smith and Scott Linehan before playing five seasons in the NFL and one in the CFL. After retiring as a player following the 2000 season, he spent two years as a quarterbacks coach in the CFL before taking the same position at Michigan State for his old coach, Smith.
Ever since, Nussmeier's coaching responsibilities have included working with quarterbacks, and like Al Borges he'll serve as his own QB coach at Michigan. While that arrangement didn't work out so well for Borges—who, notably, didn't have the playing pedigree of Nussmeier—there's a lot of evidence to suggest it'll go a lot better this time around. Here's a look at each of Nussmeier's coaching stops, starting with MSU, and how his quarterbacks fared under his tutelage.
John L. Smith hired Nussmeier in 2003, Jeff Smoker's senior year following a junior campaign in which he was suspended the final five games for substance abuse-related issues.
Below are the numbers for Nussmeier's starting QBs at MSU, including the years immediately prior to and following his time there. What we see from his time at East Lansing will come up again at future stops:
|2002 (Smoker, Jr.)||114||203||56.2||1593||7.8||13||10||133.4|
|2003 (Smoker, Sr.)||302||488||61.9||3395||7.0||21||14||128.8|
|2004 (Stanton, So.)||141||220||64.1||1601||7.3||8||6||131.8|
|2005 (Stanton, Jr.)||236||354||66.7||3077||8.7||22||12||153.4|
|2006 (Stanton, Sr.)||164||269||61.0||1807||6.7||12||10||124.7|
Smoker's senior-year numbers don't leap off the page, but they do exhibit one trend in Nussmeier's quarterback coaching: when he takes charge, interception rates fall. While Smoker threw 14 picks in 2003, he did so on 226 more attempts than he had in any other season, and his 2.9% interception rate was a career best.
Drew Stanton's numbers are muddled by injuries in each of his three seasons as the starter; even so, the huge strides he made under Nussmeier from his sophomore to junior seasons are apparent—his completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdown rate, and overall efficiency all improved even with a significant uptick in attempts. Perhaps even more indicative of Nussmeier's skill with QBs is Stanton's huge dropoff when his coach moved on—not the last time this would happen after Nussmeier left a job. Stanton's quote to Angelique Chengelis after Michigan hired Nussmeier really stands out after looking at the numbers:
“Doug Nussmeier is everything as advertised and more,” Stanton told The News Wednesday night. “He has an unbelievable approach to the game that demands a lot out of his players but also has a way of making every day fun. He represents what college football should be all about. He’s going to make a great head coach some day, and I wouldn’t be where I am today without him. I was literally in tears when he left my junior year at Michigan State.”
Are there mitigating factors here? Absolutely. Smoker's lost 2002 season makes it difficult to parse out how much of his senior-year resurgence was due to coaching, while Stanton's injuries in his sophomore and senior seasons (remember LaMarr Woodley?) impacted his performance in those years. Stanton's outstanding junior year is still hard to ignore, however, especially once it's put in the context of Nussmeier's other coaching stops.
[Hit THE JUMP for Nussmeier's other stops, including Marc Bulger's Last Stand and the transformations of Keith Price and AJ McCarron.]
Nussmeier left his former head coach (Smith) to work under his former offensive coordinator (Linehan) in the same capacity at the NFL level, getting a Pro Bowl season out of a 29-year-old Marc Bulger before injuries sabotaged the 2007 season.
|ST. LOUIS (NFL)||Cmp||Att||Pct||Yds||YPA||TD||INT||Rating|
|2005 (Bulger, 28)||192||287||66.9||2297||8.0||14||9||94.4|
|2006 (Bulger, 29)||370||588||62.9||4301||7.3||24||8||92.9|
|2007 (Bulger, 30)||221||378||58.5||2392||6.3||11||15||70.3|
|2008 (Bulger, 31)||251||440||57.0||2720||6.2||11||13||71.4|
Bugler's 2006 season was his best as a pro; he also made the Pro Bowl in 2003, his second NFL season, in the high-flying Mike Martz offense, but he did so while throwing as many interceptions (22) as touchdowns. Under Nussmeier, Bulger recorded a career-low 1.4% INT rate in 2006—good for second in the NFL—despite playing behind a patchwork O-line that gave up the second-most sacks in the league. The next year, both Bulger and his offensive line suffered a litany of injuries and the team collapsed, going 3-13. While Nussmeier left for the OC job at Fresno State in 2008, Linehan and Bulger butted heads; the Rams fired Linehan after an 0-4 start, while Bulger was out of the league within two years, never coming close to replicating his 2006 season.
While the wheels fell off in St. Louis, Nussmeier spent one season as the offensive coordinator and QB coach for Fresno State under Pat Hill. This is Nussmeier's lone stop in which his quarterback—senior Tom Brandstater—didn't improve statistically.
2007 (Brandstater, Jr.)
|2008 (Brandstater, Sr.)||221||371||59.6||2664||7.2||18||12||129.4|
Brandstater—a notoriously inconsistent QB—was playing for his fourth offensive coordinator in four years at Fresno, which certainly didn't help matters. Nussmeier did help him become a 6th-round NFL draft pick—Brandstater bounced between five teams without ever making a pro impact—and scouting reports indicate that he improved at going through his progressions, standing out in that regard at the NFL Combine. How much that had to do with Nussmeier is very difficult to tell given the one-year sample here.
This is where the data starts to get pretty exciting. Nussmeier took the OC/QB position at Washington under Steve Sarkisian in 2009, when Jake Locker headed into his junior season after losing most of his sophomore campaign to a broken thumb. I've included his freshman-year stats to better portray his improvement under Nussmeier.
|2007 (Locker, Fr.)||155||328||47.3||2062||6.3||14||15||105.0|
|2008 (Locker, So.)||50||93||53.8||512||5.5||1||0||103.6|
|2009 (Locker, Jr.)||230||394||58.4||2800||7.1||21||11||130.1|
|2010 (Locker, Sr.)||184||332||55.4||2265||6.8||17||9||124.2|
|2011 (Price, So.)||242||362||66.9||3063||8.5||33||11||161.9|
|2012 (Price, Jr.)||263||432||60.9||2728||6.3||19||13||122.4|
Locker went from much-hyped athletic curiosity to the presumed #1 pick in the 2010 NFL Draft, then surprised pundits by returning to Washington for his senior season. While Locker's numbers took a slight dip that year, which caused draftniks to project him as a second- or third-round prospect, Locker believed that a hard look at his senior film would display the type of improvement worthy of a first-round selection:
Now Locker is in the strange position of defending himself against the perception that he cost himself the No. 1 slot. He's weathered criticism of his play by accepting responsibility, even when other factors, such as a so-so receiving corps, were often at fault. Not only did he play most of the season with a broken rib and bruised quad, he also rebounded from the loss to Nebraska by beating the Huskers in the Holiday Bowl. He's convinced he's better prepared for having put up good numbers in a pro-style offense rather than great numbers in the spread, the system used by Newton and Gabbert. And just because he didn't turn pro when his stock was highest doesn't mean he won't be a better quarterback. "Success will come quicker because I played my senior year," he says. "The smart evaluators can see that."
Most do. On the heels of Locker's strong combine and further examination of all of his game performances, The Magazine's three experts admit they'd consider taking him in the first round despite having graded him lower.
Tennessee chose Locker with the 8th overall pick. After playing sparingly as a rookie, he's started 18 games for the Titans in the last two seasons, with his 2013 campaign cut short by a foot injury.
Then there's Keith Price, perhaps the best example of Nussmeier's deft hand with quarterbacks. After redshirting in 2009 and spending 2010 backing up Locker, Price posted the seventh-best passer efficiency in the country in 2011, his first year as a starter. Nussmeier departed for Alabama after that season, and Price's numbers fell off a cliff. While local scribes attributed a good deal of Price's dropoff to poor offensive line play, that argument doesn't hold water after looking at the numbers: UW posted an ugly 7.8% sack rate in 2011, and that number rose only slightly—to just under 8.0%—the next season. While Price had a major bounceback year as a senior, his sophomore-year completion percentage, yards, yards per attempt, touchdown rate, and overall efficiency still stand as career-highs.
|2011 (McCarron, So.)||219||328||66.8||2634||8.0||16||5||147.3|
|2012 (McCarron, Jr.)||211||314||67.2||2933||9.3||30||3||175.3|
|2013 (McCarron, Sr.)||226||336||67.3||3063||9.1||28||7||167.2|
AJ McCarron's story should be familiar to you all; after being Nick Saban's proverbial game manager as a sophomore, Nussmeier helped transform him into a brutally efficient downfield passer in his final two seasons at Alabama. While the Tide's SBNation site, RollBamaRoll, isn't sure how much to credit Nussmeier, it's apparent that he played a major role in McCarron's leap to Heisman contention:
The 2011 version of McCarron would have a difficult time throwing the ball down the deep middle of the field, but the 2012 and 2013 versions have thrived in this area. He still lacks elite arm strength, but his mechanics are much improved – along with ability to go through his progressions and deliver the football on time, even to his third or fourth option. Once again, it’s nothing more than a guessing game when it comes to trying to determining how much of his progression is due to Nussmeier. Some natural progression is to be expected, and, over the summer, McCarron has a quarterback coach. But Nussmeier, as the quarterback’s coach, works very closely with the quarterbacks during the spring and throughout the season, so I certainly believe he deserves some amount of credit.
Improvement from sophomore first-year starter to experienced junior is to be expected, of course; it's still difficult to look at the above numbers, especially in the context of Nussmeier's overall resume, without a good deal of excitement for Michigan's future at quarterback. The noted improvement in decision-making and reading defenses by Nussmeier quarterbacks is a very positive indicator for Devin Gardner's potential as a senior returning starter, not to mention the growth Shane Morris should undergo over the next three years. From a quarterback-coaching standpoint, it's hard to look at this as anything but a home-run hire.
In defense of whoever preceded Nussmeier at MSU, Smoker not being on blow probably affected the numbers.
While not naming names, he allegedly never quit. Just got smarter about not getting caught.
And it's not due to Hoke
Just as RR was at fault for his defense, so Hoke is responsible for his offense. If Nuss turns the ship around, Hoke deserves credit.
that you do not believe that Hoke initiated the hiring when he saw that Nussmeier did not get the HC job at Washington? That Hoke didn't decide to fire his close colleague of five years because it was necessary for success AND there was an excellent opportunity for an OC who was looking for more independence in his job? I can understand the point of view that Hoke is a figurehead. I just can't believe it knowing how complex organizations work and what is required of leadership. Primarily making difficult decisions on limited information.
I think the only contribution Brandon provided Hoke was the assurance that whatever Hoke needed to succeed, Brandon would pay for it. I see this as the same situation as when Hoke wanted Mattison.
I think Nuss will work wonders with Gardner...all the potential that he's showed, I believe that Nuss will maximize that. And I was reading some other comments on how Morris should be the starter and what not and I just started laughing. Gardner will be a 5th year senior and will play lights out for us next year. He will be hungry to prove the haters wrong.
Likely also helpful to Gardner; Not being a stray hit away from being a triple amputee
Michigan will take a big step forward towards finally being the lethally efficient pro-style offense that it could have been back in the aughts.
I can't get enough news about Nuss. I love his passion, personality and desire. This is a GREAT hire for the University of Michigan.
Let's see if Devin can stay healthy all year, because, at least against ND, Devin was pretty damn good. He also threw the fewest INTs of any B1G QB in conference play. Not a bad foundation for a QB Whisperer to start with
And that will come down to whether Nussmeier can keep various defenders out of Devin Gardner's ribcage. Seriously, I think they're building some semi-permanent housing on his chest.
I'm just thrilled that ESPN hasn't perfected the "Three Kings" chest injury cam for game updates
it looks like DG is throwing the ball directly to the NW player in that photo
I don't know why anyone doesn't look at this as anything but a home run hire, from any perspective, given the offensive vision this staff has. An immediate upgrade, a great decision and action taken by Hoke.
If I recall that game, he probably WAS throwing it directly to the NW player.
If there was a stat called "throws that should have been intercepted", Devin vs. NW would have set the record, easily.
Interestingly enough I remember it going similarly for our defense. Many, many dropped INTs that NW QBs threw.
DG threw at least a few passes right at NW players in that game; fortunately they were dropped.
He might be a great QB coach but can he get the O-Line to block people. So Gardner can throw
Man I hope he can bc that line we had was terrible. I think it should be better, I just don't know if funk is the guy to get them there...maybe Nuss's play calling will help with that aspect tremendously..
(currently the first listed Diary) called "Reading the Tea Leaves 2013 is Reincarnated as Zone Blocking Zealot?" Eye of the Tiger provides much reason for optimism...I highly recommend this Diary.
Also there was another thread last week about it, also very well done (DAMMIT, can't recall which MGBlog staffer penned that one, or the thread title). Page back and you'll find it.
I think last years OLine could've played a LOT better if they had some help, but their youth and inexperience was made worse by Al to a large degree. Instead of making things simple and easy and consistent for a very young, makeshift squad they were asked to learn a huge playbook, and execute a variety of complicated blocking schemes, seemingly at random, while constantly switching playing positions, and regularly switching starters. They had almost no chance to succeed with Al telegraphing plays to opponents half the time.
Last year's OLine under Nuss would've likely had a much easier time of it. If they had simple assignments, and consistent, effective game plans they would've been able to develop some chemistry, would've improved more, and improved faster as a result.
Everything I've heard is that he is flexible and makes quick decisions when needed. He'll make a few adjustments and hopefully strike it rich soon with a workable combo of our O-linemen.
not that i'm a big believer in funk, but funk likes the inside zone, so maybe his teaching will improve when he's working with his bread and butter.
The O-line should be much improved. But even if it isn't, Borges' play calling is partly at fault for Gardner getting ground into a fine paste. If the offensive line can't block rushers, then it's the job of the OC to call plays where they don't need to do so for very long - quick timing patterns and screens. Borges hardly ever ran those, though - his preferred play was to run play action (even though nobody respected the run) to try to hit guys 15-20 yards downfield.
Hopefully if we have another year of shaky OL play, Nuss can compensate by calling plays that don't require the line to do as much.
I believe he will be better for the QBs here but unfortunately if Gardner gets pounded to a pulp again this year there won't be much opportunity to show any improvements.
The O line has to gel quickly this year and if it does I think we could see the Heisman contender Gardner emerge.
Great hire. I just hope we can block. I think we will be able to, but the youth still frightens.
We're young in a freshman/sophomore sense, but we won't be THAT young. We'll be comparable to the last couple of UCLA teams.
Kalis, Magnuson, Glasgow and Bosch all have game experience. Kalis, Magnuson, Glasgow, Braden and Bars will all be going into their third year in the program and had three preseasons under their belt. We still have Miller and Bryant floating around as upperclassmen.
Good breakdown. It's encouraging to say the least but yeah, the lack of upperclassmen offensive linemen is killing me. I suppose we can still thank Rich Rod for that. Here's hoping Dawson, Kugler and Bosch can progress in a year.
Several of the things that bothers me about the people who claim no one could have succeeded with the offensive line this year....
1. Are we sure every single coordinator would have wasted time with Tackle-Over?
2. Are we sure every single coordinator would have preferred to play at the snail's pace we did?
3. Are we sure that every single coach/coordinator would have played Miller over Glasgow from the beginning?
4. Are we sure every single coach/coordinator would have changed blocking schemes multiple times during the season?
5. Are we sure every single coach/coordinator wouldn't have identified Magnuson as one of the best five linement from the beginning?
6. Are we sure every single coach/coordinator wouldn't have realized we needed more experience in the center of the line and placed Schofield there and Magnuson in his natural RT position?
This is all hindsight of course, but it shows that there were definitely things that could have been done differently than they were.
Going into next year, its imperative that Hoke/Nuss/Funk identify the best five linemen immediately and stick with the plan from day one. Other than the youth itself, nothing killed us more than the endless shifting and changing on a weekly basis.
I don't know about Clarkson, but I definitely think Gardner could use a solid week going through Whitfield's 'chaos mechanics' drilling. If he can train Gardner to react to the blitz in some way OTHER than looping back to the right, I think it's a win.
To be fair to Gardner, I think he improved enormously in this respect as the season went on. While it was true after non-conference play, by the end of the year he was manipulating the pocket like you'd expect from a 4th year junior.
isn't that exactly what gardner did last year?
He's already worked with Whitfield
Yeah, but IIRC correctly it was like a 2-day schwing, and I don't think it was his normal chaos mechanics stuff. Or maybe it was and it just wasn't as effective
There's chaos, and then there's the 2013 OL. That's the Michigan difference(tm).
FYI i recall Borges wasn't too gung ho about that stuff either
... should spend some time in the off-season healing the 137 bones he broke during the 2013 campaign.
And then come back to conquer 2014!
Nuss's plan with this team is to simplify and then expand.
Hoke wants a power running game? Great, first we need to get the blocking down, at the point of attack.
I hope Nuss simplifies our "schemed up" playbook, it's better to master a few skills than to be below average at everything.
Michigan enters 2014 with 3 quarterbacks with experience for the first time since forever.
I'm very excited about this hire, and agree that Michigan got a guy who is a massive upgrade and will have a huge, positive impact on the QBs and team in general. But the way this article reads, Nussmeier is the be-all, end-all of quarterback coaches. I'm just wondering, surely there has been a complaint outside of the Rams all got injured and AJ McCarron didn't win everything there is to win?
This is a great write up. It shows a very clear and consistent pattern of stable, efficient offenses, and improvement by the qbs. Seeing the numbers here, and the average-season-under-Nuss write up by Magnus, has me very hopeful for next year and beyond. It's hard to argue that our interceptions arent going to go down, or our touchdowns aren't going to outnumber Ints 2-1 very soon.
Doug Nussmeier coordinated Horatio Nelson's naval formations at Trafalgar.
panzers in the Ardennes.
he was working for Rommel.
"Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I READ YOUR BOOK!"
/cirlce back to Bob Ufer horn reference
Six degrees of separation, University of Michigan style.
Now there's a man who would appreciate the Northwestern uniforms above. He'd probably think it's sissy shit that any team doesn't wear those uniforms.
Now, an army is a team - it lives, eats, sleeps, fights as a team. This individuality stuff is a bunch of crap.
"A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week." - Patton
asap. They kept throwing treads last year.
Throwing treads was not as much of a problem as inadequate thickness/slope on the front glacis plate, which AP shots would go through like a hot knife through butter.