NCAA votes to make second time transfers sit out a year to cut down on the portal
NCAA Division I Council approved legislation on Wednesday to limit waivers for second-time transfers. Now, undergraduate players who transfer will have specific guidelines they must meet in order to be eligible for immediate playing time starting with the 2023-24 season or risk sitting out a year in between transfers. Apparently if you transfer after you graduate you can still get immediately eligibility.
soooo…..Okie???
January 12th, 2023 at 9:15 PM ^
It was bound to happen sooner or later. The way it was going we would have kids playing for one team one week and another the next.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:24 PM ^
No it wasn't.
January 15th, 2023 at 12:10 PM ^
CFB is the prototype environment for showing that anything not specifically legislated against WILL eventually happen, and some of the things specifically legislated against will still happen anyways.
There is no doubt in my mind that there wouldve eventually been a player playing for multiple schools in the same season.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:31 PM ^
If you read it...they left open a bunch of ways to get a waiver, including mental health.
It's not stopping another from transferring a 2nd time and getting a waiver.
It's just going back to the old way of making you work for it a little bit. The NCAA was granting like 90% of the waivers pre-portal. It's been a mess much longer than the portal has existed.
January 13th, 2023 at 6:30 AM ^
Thankfully we have the NCAA to process those waivers
January 13th, 2023 at 9:18 AM ^
Haha! After Llewellyn went down, the thought that went through my head was "Is there anyone in the portal that Michigan can pick up?"
January 13th, 2023 at 10:07 AM ^
Glad to see this might become a rule. It’s crazy how you see players playing for 4 schools in a career. Tough for coaches to build a program and manage a roster. The madness needs some rules
January 13th, 2023 at 10:24 AM ^
It's the market correcting itself. And teams like Bama who used to take advantage of the portal to fill holes without really losing anyone of consequence are starting to lose players of consequence, so they're pushing for this reform.
January 13th, 2023 at 7:38 PM ^
If I remember correctly (it's possible I don't) Harbaugh was the first highly visible coach to publicly propose a transfer without penalty. And I believe he also proposed there would be a penalty for a second transfer. He's a bit of a character but he has some good ideas.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:15 PM ^
Presumably this applies to those who transfer in the 2023/24 season, not those who transfer for the 2023/24 season so I don’t see how it applies to Okie
January 13th, 2023 at 5:17 AM ^
Okie isn't an undergrad anyway. It doesn't apply to him at all.
January 13th, 2023 at 1:19 PM ^
But I believe he ALREADY grad transferred to UM. So are grad students allowed unlimited transfers?
January 12th, 2023 at 9:16 PM ^
Good. I’m fine if a kid wants to transfer, but fergodsakes make a decision and stick with it. Seeing some of these kids play on 3 or 4 different teams is ridiculous.
January 13th, 2023 at 2:08 PM ^
This is the way it should have been from the beginning.
(the beginning = when they eliminated the sit-out year for first-time transfers)
January 12th, 2023 at 9:16 PM ^
Seems reasonable.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:17 PM ^
There's no rules !! there's no rules!!
There are rules!?!
January 12th, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^
Is Okie undergrad? I wouldn't think it would be an issue for him but I really don't know.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:24 PM ^
Tree jobs???
January 13th, 2023 at 10:25 AM ^
Ya lazy lima bean!
January 12th, 2023 at 9:18 PM ^
I was wondering what happened to the rule that transfers had to sit a year.
Between the covid exception, the one time waiver, and the grad transfer rule, it seemed like it's been a transfer free for all.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:20 PM ^
What about burgers?
January 13th, 2023 at 6:35 AM ^
Depends. If the coach pays for the burger - bad. If a booster gives a player a brown paper bag full of cash and that player subsequently buys a Hellcat and goes to the local drive-thru for burgers - fine.
January 13th, 2023 at 9:07 AM ^
Are you going to tell people that I housed the recruit's burger?
-Jim Harbaugh
January 12th, 2023 at 9:22 PM ^
With the amount of times Okie has transferred does anybody know if he actually graduated to be considered a grad transfer?
January 13th, 2023 at 10:14 AM ^
According to Mgoblue.com, "Earned his degree in Interdisciplinary Studies from the University of Tennessee at Martin"
January 13th, 2023 at 10:27 AM ^
I have the credits...I should see if any university will origami them into a Bachelor's.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:25 PM ^
Okie is a grad transfer, so no, it would not apply to him
January 12th, 2023 at 9:29 PM ^
Cool. Now do the same for coaches
January 12th, 2023 at 11:34 PM ^
If a coach were moving on to his third team in a four or five year period there would most likely be millions of dollars being paid to get him out of a contract.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:33 PM ^
I don't love it. Most people can quit a company, go to another company, and leave quickly for company number 3 (or perhaps boomerang back to company number 1) if company number 2 is a bad fit.
But it's a reasonable compromise to the current Wild Wild West.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:38 PM ^
Most people maybe, but you don't get that kind of flexibility in pro sports with contracts.
January 12th, 2023 at 10:50 PM ^
Not true. Ever hear of non-competes? The current transfer rules are honestly extremely lax when looking at comparable markets like pro sports—where players and owners organize and have compromised to prevent the Wild West scenario we are seeing now.
January 12th, 2023 at 11:29 PM ^
And the FTC just proposed a ban on non compete clauses
‘the world is going one way and the ncaa is going another way’
January 12th, 2023 at 11:38 PM ^
Having worked in multiple businesses and been privy to dozens of employment contracts I can say that anyone earning anything near what a lot of these NILs are rumored to pay is usually working under a contract. Nobody gets to flit around earning serious amounts of money without having some serious strings attached. Litigation is coming
January 12th, 2023 at 11:50 PM ^
I was with you until "Litigation is coming", lol.
NIL rules do not allow contracts that explicitly tie players to a particular school. Nobody is bringing litigation, or even putting such agreements in writing, since either would be a blatant admission of NCAA rules violatations.
January 13th, 2023 at 12:43 AM ^
You must not have ever met an attorney. If you think there is any facet of life on this earth that they will not litigate, you are very wrong.
I’m all for this new rule. 1 free transfer in 4 years of eligibility is plenty. If you need more than 1 free transfer, not including health reason, there are probably other issues. Continuity is a good thing for student athletes and for college football. Leaving for the next bag man after not honoring your commitment to the last one is probably not a great lesson to be teaching young men.
January 13th, 2023 at 6:40 AM ^
It would not surprise me one bit that a number of these bigger deals involve contracts that violate NCAA NIL rules
January 13th, 2023 at 2:40 AM ^
Bingo. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/01/ftc-proposes-rule-ban-noncompete-clauses-which-hurt-workers-harm-competition
Feedback I get from general counsel I know (i.e., outside of attorney-client relationships) is that non-competes hinder hiring.
January 12th, 2023 at 11:45 PM ^
Yes, I've heard of non-competes ... that's why I didn't use the word "all" to start my 2nd sentence.
Yes, transfer rules are more strict for NFL players. They also are unionized and have a strong voice as regards their CBA. College athletes will likely never be unionized nor have a strong voice in any NCAA negotiations.
January 13th, 2023 at 12:46 AM ^
Yes, transfer rules are more strict for NFL players.
There’s the understatement of the century. A lot of professions can’t unionize, that doesn’t mean they don’t have rights or a voice.
January 13th, 2023 at 7:41 AM ^
Except going to school (and deciding to play a sport at a school) is not employment. Those students are free to transfer schools as often as they like, but there is nothing fundamentally wrong with putting limits on their varsity sport eligibility.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:34 PM ^
A step in the right direction. Maybe someone will learn that a little adversity isn't so terrible after all.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:39 PM ^
This is the right idea, but I don't think it will work. The "exigent circumstances" will be misused by athletes and the NCAA.
IMO, they need to give you one transfer prior to graduation, and if you've graduated, you can transfer without sitting out (but only once). The only exception would be if the coach pulled your scholarship. If you want to transfer twice as an undergrad, you can sit out a year. It's not the worst thing in the world.
January 12th, 2023 at 9:46 PM ^
Encouraging students to graduate is generally a good thing, no?
January 12th, 2023 at 10:00 PM ^
It’s the ncaa. They couldn’t care less about their stated regard
January 12th, 2023 at 9:50 PM ^
Makes sense.
January 12th, 2023 at 10:05 PM ^
I am old and so like the notion that someone might stick around but if the NCAA keeps using that canard "student athlete" - then it won't fly if challenged. Any student can transfer to any school right now that will take them. If you don't like the English major concentraion at school 1, you can transfer to school 2. There you find that the program just lost the program director, so off to school 3, and so on.
This will sort out - right now, everyone is flipping out because it is a new thing.
January 13th, 2023 at 7:44 AM ^
The ncaa isn't preventing them from transferring schools - only saying the their varsity sport eligibility may be affected. They are still free to find an educational curriculum/program that better suits their needs at any time.
January 13th, 2023 at 10:57 AM ^
It might an interesting clash of different principles. Someone could openly challenge that they are changing programs for (a) superior training as a future professional, (b) better immediate pay through NIL. Part of that training is being part of the team and playing, and so is the NIL.
Preventing someone from doing something to make more money when it is legal would be an interesting test. Didn't a few years ago, the NCAA tried to put a cap on what assistants could make? That blew up in their faces.