JUB seems to think O'Korn is the QB

Submitted by Michael on August 26th, 2016 at 2:10 PM

During his interview on WTKA this morning, John U Bacon seemed to imply that John O'Korn is the starting QB. At least that's what it sounded like to me, when he says "You have to see what O'Korn does in this system" in evaluating the prospects for making the playoffs.

Listen from the 28:00 minute mark.

http://www.wtka.com/2012/09/06/podcasts/

EDIT: To clarify, I think this is significant for two reasons: 1) JUB offered this as fact and not merely his opinion, and 2) JUB has very good access, so it's possibly he's unintentionally leaking information nobody else has.

Of course, I don't subscribe to any of the paid services so I really don't know what's being talked about there.

Comments

Magnus

August 26th, 2016 at 2:13 PM ^

FWIW, the guys at The Wolverine used to think it was O'Korn, and now they're rolling with Speight. Personally, I think it will be Speight.

mGrowOld

August 26th, 2016 at 2:19 PM ^

The team may already know but I'm guessng they wont officially announce anything publicly until player introductions a week from tomorrrow.

Just like Lloyd did in 2004 with Chad Henne.

And I'm hoping it's O'Korn based on his upside.  Not like we're any real  thread to lose the first 6 games or so.  I think we're going to need him playing at Rudock-like levels by year end to beat OSU.

ijohnb

August 26th, 2016 at 2:27 PM ^

kind of got the feeling that Lloyd actually did not know who was starting that year until he sent the offense on the field for the first time.  Even then it looked to me like Henne ran on because nobody had told him not to.

Mr. Yost

August 26th, 2016 at 2:55 PM ^

I really would've liked to have seen Gutz...his camp hype was amazing and then he hurt his shoulder.

All 3 guys went pro*, that's crazy when you consider our recent history.

Could be where we're at next year with these two guys, Peters and McCaffrey.

Wee-Bey Brice

August 26th, 2016 at 2:35 PM ^

I expect the defense to be a lot better than they were in the Minn and Indiana games but i still agree. Can't just write off Wisky and Penn St like they're Hawaii (I say that even though I have no concern that either of them will actually beat us, just worthy opponents) 

maizenblue92

August 26th, 2016 at 2:51 PM ^

Based on Bill C's original projections in which we are projected to win 9.6 games, there is a 40.6% chance of starting 7-0 based on those win expectancies. However, no game is less than a 75% chance of victory. Double however, new projections today give us 10.1 wins and a 37.5% chance of 11 or more wins, second best chance in the country.

True Blue Grit

August 26th, 2016 at 4:12 PM ^

My big bitch about the whole Henne/Gutierrez thing was the next year when Henne was f-ing up and Gutierrez was sitting on the bench 100% healthy.  Carr never gave G a chance except during garbage time despite the fact Henne was practically begging to be benched for at least a time.  This is why I like Harbaugh so much vs. Carr in regard to handling of QB's.  With Coach H it's all about competition.  The best guy plays period.  Carr was loyal to a fault with his QB's, being a former one himself.  I get the idea of showing confidence in a guy to build up his confidence.  But sometimes, a player needs a kick in the ass kind of motivator too.  

Double-D

August 26th, 2016 at 3:17 PM ^

However in Harbaugh's offense a good decision maker with an accurate arm is very hard to stop. I am not saying that is one or the other. Speight is more mobile than most realize and has a good feel for the pocket. Either way we will be ahead of last year at this time.

A Fan In Fargo

August 26th, 2016 at 7:46 PM ^

Yeah okay old timer! Because the sucknuts defense is so stacked this year. If Michigan's run game is where it should be by that time, blohio is going to get smacked. 8 new starters folks! Yeah, 8! I don't care how talented they are physically, they are new starters. I'm here all day.

schreibee

August 26th, 2016 at 2:47 PM ^

There's no reason in the world not to use both in the OOC games. I believe Speight starts vs Hawaii, only because he's been here and played.

Both will & should play. In my opinion O'Korn's greater mobility will give him the edge by the time B1G play starts - unless, y'know, Speight just flat outplays him. That's certainly a possibility.

But, O'Korn excites me more - upside!

kb

August 26th, 2016 at 2:17 PM ^

I feel comfortable with either one of them. I can't believe I just said that - it's been a while since I last trusted the QB position.

getsome

August 26th, 2016 at 2:48 PM ^

id like to see the better running QB since it obviously allows the O to do more but only if passing, decision making, etc are up to par.

speight can pick up free yards, hes not immobile, but he wont beat many defenders to the stakes on 3rd and 8 or whatever and thats a huge asset.  maybe okorn doesnt have that ability either (i havent seen much tape on him) but many report he does.  okorn apparently just needed work in other areas.

if speight added some zip to his out breakers and quick posts and worked on his release, i can see him leading this team.  either way, itll be interesting given the squads talent.  whoever moves the team most consistently - a true meritocracy

bluesparkhitsy…

August 26th, 2016 at 5:52 PM ^

Speight can run at any time, too.  But I think what you might be getting at is that Speight is opportunistic but not necessarily fast enough to gameplan a QB run, while O'Korn is fast enough (or so it is said) that opposing defenses might have to worry about a designed QB run.

If O'Korn gets it, I hope that's because Harbaugh also trusts that O'Korn can be the guy in charge, because I've previously gotten that vibe more from Speight.  But I'm just watching from the sidelines like most of the rest of us.

drewz05

August 26th, 2016 at 2:48 PM ^

It's not just his legs.  He proved that he has the ability to be an effective college quarterback over the course of a full season.  People see his freshman stats from Houston and hope that he can recreate that year again.

M-Dog

August 26th, 2016 at 4:10 PM ^

I can't help feeling that if O'Korn was going to win the job he would have won it by now.

It's like the recruit that keeps mentioning Michigan as his leader for months but won't commit.  You reach a point where if it hasn't happened by then, it's just not going to happen.

 

Indonacious

August 26th, 2016 at 5:02 PM ^

This is likely true but we don't really have any evidence to tell us how good Speight has or has not become to calibrate if O'Korn is what he was made out to be. Time will tell I guess. I don't really think anyone really knows. I'm sure most "insiders" don't even know and they will just pick a side and then hope they are right (with odds being close to 50/50) and if they aren't, I'm sure they will say something like "late surge from X turned the tables, etc." Literally, the only potential bit of info about the team that has come out is the LT battle and who knows what to make of that.

4yearsofhoke

August 26th, 2016 at 2:24 PM ^

I like Speight. Not only has he played as well as O'Korn/better in the Spring, but he is also taller and able to see downfield. He also can move, albeit not as well as O'Korn, but pretty decently. Reminds me a of Mallett/Alex Smith hybrid.

I'm not convinced O'Korn is a legit 6'4 like he's listed. However, I feel bad that one won't start. They are both great TBH. Also it probably sucks for O'Korn that Speight came out of nowhere.

4yearsofhoke

August 26th, 2016 at 2:32 PM ^

I don't think its that big of an issue either, but being taller helps. Esp. when you have 6'7 linemen and you're playing in a pro-system as a pocket passer.

My mallett comparison was pretty much a 6'6 QB who is not a statue like Mallett and has some mobility (however, not as good as Alex Smith)

Also just saw the pic below: O'Korn isn't a legit 6'4

MGoBrewMom

August 26th, 2016 at 4:51 PM ^

Just curious why you think Speight will start? I am reading that opinion more than the O'Korn, but I'm not sure why. Is it a feeling based on what you see (honestly not sure who actually sees practice), hear...or something else.

If you've already highlighted your thoughts, I missed it, and I'm just curious. Thanks.