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I'm not convinced yet that…

I'm not convinced yet that Michigan's NIL approach is going to work post-2022.

And apparently neither are they, as they've added the various NIL, Portal & roster management people under Sherrone.

But if you can name 5 players from the '23-'24 classes combined that Michigan got despite heavy NIL offers from other schools, I'll be impressed...

Yeah but - Z/X was a good…

Yeah but - Z/X was a good player in every other respect, while Zeb was not.

Saying "most of" the…

Saying "most of" the Mgoblogosphere wanted Harbaugh "canned" is a gross exaggeration rc.

I didn't read the rest after that, so maybe it got better...🤷‍♂️

I'm going to make a much…

I'm going to make a much briefer Warde point than Bronx & King:

When Michigan chose to suspend Harbaugh, rather than let the Burgergate investigation play out with minimal assistance or participation from Michigan (the way basically the rest of the member institutions now treat them), I posted here that Harbaugh was gone, and rightfully so. I was roundly negged at the time.

Whether one blames Warde directly for that decision or not, what I would like to see in an AD is one that doesn't trip over themself to accommodate that useless, archaic, corrupt organization.

Decisive & PRO-Michigan. Nuff said! 

I'm really displeased that…

I'm really displeased that this blog thinks so lowly of Michigan hoops that it feels the only realistic HC candidates are try-hard mid-major-y types with no real track record of anything except usually making the tournament (but not making deep tournament runs, Smart's VCU team of a decade ago excepted).

Maybe Brady Hoke should lead the search committee, fergodssakes?! 

That's a monstrously huge …

That's a monstrously huge "if" there...

That came off as the…

That came off as the smarmiest way of saying "good riddance" I may have ever seen! 

 I defended him then, and…

 I defended him then, and thought a zero tolerance agreement was just right going forward. 

It's when he violated that on more than 1 occasion I thought he had to go.

And I'll be honest, if he were still winning & making deep tournament runs I'd still have supported more chances for him.

I'm no better than a Hoosier fan apparently 🤷‍♂️

Sure, but is anyone…

Sure, but is anyone commenting here confident in any list Warde drew up? 

I think any 5 suggestions posted here are likely as good or better than any list he has. So I'm open to that discussion! 

Would Creighton to Michigan…

Would Creighton to Michigan even be considered upward trajectory after the past couple seasons? 

McDermott is my 1st choice 🤷‍♂️

Is that another way of…

Is that another way of saying "past performance does not indicate present results"?

All that would apply to…

All that would apply to Denver picking 1 slot ahead of Vegas too tho, right?!

And they've got Payton as their coach. Who do the Raidaz have again? 

You're wrong grow old (I…

You're wrong grow old (I mean you might be right that Levis never becomes a tier 1 QB, just that Tennessee doesn't feel that way yet.)

Tennessee will take an OL at 7. I will wager you...🤝

Minnesota Vikings, Twins,…

Minnesota Vikings, Twins, Timberwolves, Wild...

Interestingly, not 1 Minnesota professional sports team wants to be associated with just "the cities" but rather with the entire state. 

I'm going to assume you got autocorrected there, 01?

Players putting their own…

Players putting their own interests ahead of the best interests of the team is another way to read that, if you're willing 🤷‍♂️

If the first questions you ask Nick Frickin Saban is "how much am I gonna play, and for how much, otherwise I'm outta here," then yeah - time for him to go.

And he won't be the last, probably just the best...

The key word to the entire…

The key word to the entire article (indeed to the entire subject of coaches jumping between jobs) was Sexton.

As in, nearly every coach mentioned has him as their agent.

I don't think ADs need do much besides keep in touch with Jimmy Sexton to know who's thinking about retiring, moving up, trying the NFL, what have you. 

I'm sure Mike Norvell & DeBoer knew they were on Bama's short list should Saban follow through on his whims to retire. I mean, DeBoer was 1st on my personal list to replace Harbaugh should he finally actually jump back into the NFL.

I think Saban made such a quick decision to get Bama out in front of the coaching carousel. Harbaugh did not.

 

And 2023 football offense…

And 2023 football offense was infinitely better than 1997. Which was a legit boring team to watch on offense unless Woodson was in the game. 

But guess what no one ever talks about in the 25 year interval between NC?

The boring-ass 1997 offense! Who cares if you've won every game?!

Ouch! It's a fair question! 

Ouch! It's a fair question! 

You have "ca" in your user…

You have "ca" in your user name but seem completely uninformed about Ohtani's contract deferments. 

It is generally considered fact that Ohtani volunteered the deferment of the majority of his money for a couple of reasons, some competitive, some pure greed.

He has left the Dodgers extremely liquid in comparison with where they'd be in paying a normal contract anywhere near the value of Ohtani's. 

And the vast bulk of his contract will ne paid once he's presumably no longer a California resident. I'm sure the money is being moved into tax dodges on an annual basis. 

Whatever the particulars, it has zero bearing on the subject of owners screwing players. He could have had a standard contract from several other teams but decided this was a better deal for himself. 

If Decatur had been upvoting…

If Decatur had been upvoting his own posts, I'm going to go back and neg each one just to counteract his vote. 

That's pathetic! Buy hey, at least he's doing the equivalent of donating his bank account - he's putting his vote where his mouth is!

I'm guessing that's because…

I'm guessing that's because you weren't born when Johnny Orr was our coach?

Well I obviously was, and was an annual participant in his summer youth camps, so I'm probably biased. But the Hubbard-Green teams were special, and played as hard & as well together, as any Michigan teams of any era! Don't sleep on Johnny Orr!

In a quasi-related issue, when I saw the headline of this thread the 1st thing I thought was "I'm not sure I care enough anymore to give it any thought" - which is such a sad thing to have to face!

Juwan is killing my love of Michigan basketball with this unmotivated, directionless crap!

Well it actually is - the…

Well it actually is - the side paying out doesn't want the reason they're paying out made public. That is evidence of something, including in this case.

I gotta be honest - I don't…

I gotta be honest - I don't think it being 73° on March 3rd qualifies as good news! 

This is a lot of…

This is a lot of misinformation being pondered in this thread. 

Caleb, Maye & Daniels all made an appearance at the combine. Maye & Caleb gave interviews to NFL Network saying they'd done some face to face meetings with teams, but were doing their physical testing at their individual pro days. Daniels may have actually left without getting measured or doing any meetings, coverage of him was minimal. Never saw that Marv had even made an appearance in Indy.

JJ met with 11 teams for interviews, got measured and threw, but didn't run at the combine. He also will do the bulk of his physical testing at his pro day and the in-person meetings he said he has scheduled with a few teams, but kept the identities confidential. 

JJ (with his representation) clearly decided that his best approach was to make himself visible & available, to teams as well as with Michigan's foremost booster in the media, Rich Eisen.

Seems it worked too. Some are now suggesting Arizona may trade out of 4th to a team wanting JJ there! 

Seriously? This pretty much…

Seriously? This pretty much seems like a good cross section of the WandaVision demographic...🤷‍♂️

Tattaglia's a pimp!

Tattaglia's a pimp!

No politics! 

No politics! 

The answer is the same as in…

The answer is the same as in a PI (college rules) - you do the hip-drop tackle when beaten & not doing it could result in a much longer than 15-yd gain.

And hope not to get called for it!

Or you could have just said …

Or you could have just said "Hmm... better than I remembered!"

And named someone else!

Maybe a bunch of you are on…

Maybe a bunch of you are on the younger side, but Tyrone Wheatley was one of the greatest Michigan football players of all time, and he was a marginal NFL player- 1 season with 1,000-yds rushing in an otherwise unexceptional career.

Maybe the injury bug slowed him?

In that draft I argued with a co-worker that Ty should be picked over Marshall Faulk! One if the few times I'll ever admit being just plain WRONG! But that's how good he was at Michigan! 

I guess Michigan is so good…

I guess Michigan is so good now that several year NFL careers including starting on playoff teams makes you a bust?!

Mason Cole does not belong in this thread - unless he wants to nominate another player! 

I say anyplace that doesn't…

I say anyplace that doesn't have that doesn't belong on that list!

I mean - people are voting with their wallet where they value living. 

Grit - you gotta realize…

Grit - you gotta realize many of the things you list as downsides are exactly the type of things that make the people creating this list extoll Ann Arbor, right?!

It's amazing (not A-Maize…

It's amazing (not A-Maize-ing) that we nearly all live in the States, many still in Michigan but a large number not any longer, and have such wildly different perspectives on what "filthy rich" connotes.

As an Ann Arbor native, now 30+ year Bay Area resident, the idea you'd have to be filthy rich to live in A2 is literally hilarious! Like spit out my vino laughing funny. 

Where do people on this board live who would consider A2 a wildly expensive place to live? What states or regions? Genuinely curious. 

As my friends reach the age of contemplating retirement, most all are considering leaving the Bay, but virtually none have discussed moving further than Oregon (still likely more expensive than A2 but a damn sight lower SOL than the Bay.)

Just generally curious about people's perceptions of living costs?

If the sparty L gets an *…

If the sparty L gets an * then it's also 40-3*

amirite?!

Minter was going to the NFL…

Minter was going to the NFL even if Harbaugh had stayed, so that was an inevitability. 

But Harbaugh taking Herbert really hurt!

I opined this as soon as QJo…

I opined this as soon as QJo declared. Ain't no way he's getting drafted, so Harbaugh must've guaranteed he'd sign him as UDFA. Will Barrett get drafted? Charger if not. Maybe a Charger late round pick of they think someone will take him.

My list of players Harbaugh will value more than other teams besides Corum & Barrett, includes possibly Jenkins, Keegan, Cornelius, Barner, Trente. I certainly would have had Sainristil high on that list until he got mocked in the 1st yesterday! Maybe Chargers 2nd round pick if he gets past the Lions?!

LAC could be a veritable Michigan West!

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There is no way Jim…

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There is no way Jim Harbaugh let's Blake Corum go past the 4th. I thought he'd take both Blake & Mikey, til I saw Mikey mocked in the 1st frickin round yesterday! 

Even if that was off by 20 picks, it's still higher than I'd been thinking he'd go. Maybe the writer of that mock is a Michigan+Lions fan? It seems pretty optimistic...

I feel like Peter Thiel…

I feel like Peter Thiel offers that same career advice. But he feels like reading n' stuff are quite overrated. 

So I don't actually recommend living by that advice 🤷‍♂️

Oh man, I was like …

Oh man, I was like "assistant pig keeper"... why does that ring a bell somehow? 🤔

So thanks for ringing that bell in my distant memory! 

Apparently Kendrick will be a more enthusiastic team player than Taran!

EXACTLY what I was thinking! 

EXACTLY what I was thinking! 

It's called an angle.

It…

It's called an angle.

It can accomplish amazing feats...🤷‍♂️

Who can enforce that they…

Who can enforce that they are students? 

The ncaa?! 🤔

Michigan caved to the ncaa…

Michigan caved to the ncaa in the 1st 3 game suspension. 

Pettyti caved to the other B10 schools, led by osu's private detectives, in the 2nd suspension. And Michigan caved to Pettyti in dropping their request to block the suspension. 

Based upon the timing of the…

Based upon the timing of the creation of the NIL GM position relative to other schools swan dives into the pool makes the hire look less than enthusiastic! 

I'm going to get absolutely…

I'm going to get absolutely buried for pointing this out, but Blinkin is describing exactly what every other school's fans thought about Stalion-gate...

Courtney Morgan is your…

Courtney Morgan is your connection there.

Suddenly I'm wondering if the reason Morgan left when he did was because Michigan would allow themselves to be pilloried over cheeseburgers while other schools just did what needs to be done in the NIL/Portal era? 🤔

We're you not aware that the…

We're you not aware that the Downs kid (somehow that doesn't sound quite right 🤔) who almost intercepted JJ's 1st pass in the Rose Bowl has transferred to osu?

They have an opening...

EDIT: If you weren't you certainly are now!

Didn't create it maybe, but…

Didn't create it maybe, but sure as HAIL isn't doing anything proactive about it!

Ok how's this - he quite…

Ok how's this - he quite legally nowadays has an agent to field & negotiate NIL opportunities. If other schools' *not officially affiliated* payola consortiums contact his agent with business, how in the name of American commerce could that be any kind of violation?

The ncaa fought & fought what's fair for so long they achieved the rare Pyrrhic Loss!

No rules they can conceive of will ever stand a legal challenge, so the only way this ends is players sign contracts which only the school can release them from - or unfettered free agency causes am arms race that leaves only a few teams standing, and most fans stay away in droves!