RUMOR: True freshman NJ WR no longer on team

Submitted by Bambi on

Knowing this board this may get negged and attacked for being too premature, but the info seems relevant and has some legs so I'm going to post it. Obviously, that being said, it is still a rumor, so grain of salt and all that.

A rumor was started on Rivals, and subseqently reinforced by Scout, that a true freshman at Michigan is in trouble with Harbaugh and on his way off the team. Allegedly this is a true FR WR from NJ and he is in some "Brian Cole"-like trouble.

Since this can apply to two people, I didn't want to name anyone in the title, but the name being thrown out there is Brad Hawkins. Mainly because his twitter profile (link) no longer has any Michigan references whatsoever while Ahmir Mitchell's twitter is still decked in Michigan stuff.

So yes, this is a post about an unsubstantiated rumor with even more inferring don from 18 year olds twitter profiles. Neg away.

drjaws

June 17th, 2016 at 2:40 PM ^

almost like you're going way overboard to prove a point that doesn't exist and no one cares about.

As far as the spelling goes, I guess you haven't seen the A&W Rootbeer Dumass commercial.  Google it.  It's hilarious.

Also, you say I'm unable to comprehend what I read?  Pot, meet kettle.  Your reading comprehension is fucking terri-bad.  I called LAWS "dumass" never called any person a "dumass."

 

Jesus man, get a grip.

drjaws

June 17th, 2016 at 2:36 PM ^

Actually, I googled that shit for the post.  I hate that saying . . . "laws are laws" because it is hypocritical as hell and police ALWAYS decide whether to do enforce laws or not.

Also, I get the "if you break the law you better be ready to deal with the consequesnces."  No shit, that is inherent but that holier than thouh hypocrisy really grinds my gears.

Wolfman

June 18th, 2016 at 5:49 AM ^

If true as rumored, it goes far past what you consider an antiquated law. My opinion on the matter is no more relevant than yours, so won't waste time going there. 

If rumor becomes reality, we are then debating the wisdom of pursuing a dumb ass, guilty not only of breaking the law, but mistakenly thinking by doing so he was so fucking cool,  just had to share it with the world. This is, sir, a dumb ass move, surpassed by his very next one. This indicates a pattern and we're not going to dethrone OSU as the conference's best and then go forward and do the same to Bama, thus rising to the level of  Best in Show by collecting those prone to purposely fucking up. We need those who understand just how important the mental aspect of the game is. Hell, both cfb and the NFL are filled with players who prove it weekly. Peppers is among them. Immediate recognition and responding correctly is not an accident. If that were true it would be a vareity of, instead of the same people doing it on a regular basis.

It takes total concentration to do the first part, and admittedly superior athletic ability to always get the second part right. But the first part is most important because relaying same to team is not that difficult  These are the type of players that take the team to a whole different level.

Recruiting them on a regular basis and getting to the point where you might have as many as three or four on the field with this ability at the same time, moves you pas this level into Final Four consideration. This I like. The other not so much. Now you get it, right? 

bronxblue

June 17th, 2016 at 12:21 PM ^

It's not worth the huge, in depth argument the internet is great for, but if someone tells you to stop doing something and you won't ( which is insinuated here) the problem isn't with the what as much as it is the why. Again, more details needed, but if my boss tells me to stop showing up late and I keep showing up late, the problem is I don't seem able to comply with a reasonable request.

Jeff09

June 17th, 2016 at 12:53 PM ^

Agreed, I don't think many college football coaches are kicking kids off the team if they get caught smoking once, if they did teams all over the country would lose half their players overnight. It's the kid who gets caught like 3-4 times a semester who you have a problem with. If you're getting caught that often, you're probably doing it too much, and you're doing it in a stupid, flagrant way. Which, while it's a stupid rule, flaunting the rules like that isn't going to get you in anyone's good graces.

wolpherine2000

June 17th, 2016 at 3:37 PM ^

...that there are ethical considerations that trump simple obedience. Students and coaches also have to follow their own moral compass. They may suffer for it, but I don't think anyone her would endorse the "coach sets the rules, you follow them doctrine" if the coach is Briles or Sandusky. That said, weed laws are hard to defend - just not Art Briles hard to defend. I'm not going to judge anyone who smokes, but if they do they should be smart enough not to get caught, and if they are caught, they shouldn't be surprised by the consequences.

youn2948

June 17th, 2016 at 12:49 PM ^

I agree that people should be able to put anything they want but where I sometimes disagree is in the pooling of healthcare costs.

I sometimes get annoyed at people living highly unhealthy life styles that I'm essentially paying for.

I agree for natural substances.

However it is odd that we don't have laws against drinking bleach or gasoline to my knowledge and they do more harm that cannabis, etc.

Reader71

June 17th, 2016 at 1:33 PM ^

My problem with legalizing weed is with respect to operating a vehicle. Smoke at home, that's cool. Smoke then drive, I'm not so cool with. I've seen enough high drivers to know it can be bad news. Plus different strains give different highs, and different people react differently at similar levels of consumption. We've all seen someone totally freak out after one hit. I don't know how to regulate that.

Michigasling

June 18th, 2016 at 10:28 AM ^

The discussion here seems mostly about what's legal or not or why it should be legal or not.  If you are a truck driver for a living, an employer or prospective employer might be worried to hire someone who was heavy drinker, not trusting the person to drive sober.   (Don't know the legalities of the hiring process here, just for discussion.)

I also don't know enough about the science behind the "altered state" that makes weed so attractive, but what about a kid's responsibility to his team?  Can an athlete compete effectively in said altered state?  Are his reaction times and concentration diminished?  They're supposed to keep up their physical training so they're fast enough and strong enough to compete.  Why shouldn't they be required to keep their mental state crisp and ready as well?

Food is legal, but a coach has the right to advise a player with a weight problem to work on controlling it, to choose what and when and how much he eats.  If a player doesn't show an effort to change behavior that might be detrimental to the success or chemistry of a team, or his own success as an athlete, it doesn't matter that it's a free country and over-eating is legal.  If the kid chooses food over team, he has chosen it over the privilege of playing.

The Mad Hatter

June 17th, 2016 at 1:49 PM ^

But to my mind that's not a reason to keep something illegal.  That same logic would require us to reinstate alcohol prohibition.

DUI (drugs and alcohol) is already illegal, and should stay that way.  There's a saliva test for THC levels available now that they're starting to use out west.

Also, I've never seen someone freak out after one hit of weed.  But even if I did, that guy's inability to handle it should in no way affect my ability to ingest it.

gmoney41

June 17th, 2016 at 2:04 PM ^

People driving under the influence of weed are probably the safest drivers out there.  Paranoia makes you drive much more cautiously.  I'd be much more worried by a driver on alchohol than weed any day of the week.  Chances the driver will be going 7 miles an hour in a 30 than 70.

Oscar

June 17th, 2016 at 8:05 PM ^

I see where you're going with this, but I think I have a better example. Second hand smoke. If weed smokers can be responsible enough to smoke where kids or anyone else that doesn't want to inhale it, then fine. But seeing as how there are plenty of nicotine smokers that can't do that, I doubt the weed community would not be any different.

Space Coyote

June 17th, 2016 at 1:28 PM ^

And then there is smoking weed to the point that it becomes a real problem. Look, it isn't exactly extremely difficult to pass these drug tests at the college level, if people are failing them or having trouble regularly with it to the point that you are wasting scholarships on someone that can't get their shit straight, then it's a problem. And it's a problem not worth having on the team.

Rabbit21

June 17th, 2016 at 1:44 PM ^

Great perspective.  Everyone I know who was a college athlete knew how to avoid the tests or could keep their stuff straight until the coaches eye of sauron passed onto someone else.  If someone can't manage to figure out the system and how to game it  or keep it together until they are no longer being heavily scrutinized that speaks to other issues that can be detrimental to the team as a whole.

 

The weed isn't the issue, it's the inability or unwillingness to modify your behavior in service of your future goals.

ElBictors

June 17th, 2016 at 3:09 PM ^

And that is an entirely different topic as well ..

On the one hand, you have the legality/illegality and 21+Over in states where it is legal.

 

Then you have the hypocrisy of Team Doctors shoving needles full of pharmaceuticals into the players to keep them on the field, despite the possible consequences or negative side effects.  So now you have a lobby of former NFL players arguing for marijuana because it's a pain remedy that may not be as destructive as whatever the team docs shoot them up with.

That's where the larger issue is heading, not so much the idea of a 19yr old college player smoking bong hits a la Mitch McGary and the many others over the years. 

Wolvermarine

June 17th, 2016 at 12:20 PM ^

The rumors on Rivals didn't speculate a freshman receiver, they named Ahmir Mitchell specifically. To be clear this is message board rumor, nothing that has been posted or confirmed by mods on that site.