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07/13/2018 - 4:26pm Moorhead’s wife has to be…

Moorhead’s wife has to be super-hot........

 

Also - What Harbaugh did at Stanford was better than what Franklin did at Vandy.  And he did it without a sexual assault coverup (allegedly).

07/10/2018 - 2:53pm Ojabo has 1 full year of…

Ojabo has 1 full year of Football training in the US.  At least there is a track record at the school, with the coaches, and with the ranking services/evaluators for a kid In NJ - from a school where they had Anoma (sp?) just last year.  I don’t know the NJ specifics, but I assume there is decent game film on Ojabo and no matter the competition level at least it is a know quantity.

Ther is no track record (that I am aware) of Euros coming and being successful at the NCAA or NFL level or a way to gauge quality of competition — which is why people are more reserved for this young man.  However, somebody HAS to be the first to hit it big coming direct from Europe.  Let us all hope that in 3-5 years people are asking if a prospect from Europe can “be the next Welschof”.

07/05/2018 - 2:56am I think it is fair to guess…

I think it is fair to guess that BP will be gone AFTER this year with the buzz about Milton and McCaffrey.  What doesn’t make sense to me are the folks that think he will be gone before this year if he isn’t in the 2-deep at QB.  He would have to sit a year whereas he can be a 2-year grad transfer after next summer if that is what he chooses.

With Perry and Martin - I hope it is a battle.  I like Perry but don’t think he has the top-tier athleticism that you would prefer in the position.  Martin seems to have that in spades from his recruiting and camp numbers just needs to equal Perry in route running etc.

Snarky comment re: Taylor.... what you said is a pretty safe bet as it wouldn’t take much for him to be better than most on the blog think......  (I wish the kid well no matter what - seems like a great young man.)

06/30/2018 - 1:48pm 11.1?? Not 10.9!!

Sorry -no…

11.1?? Not 10.9!!

Sorry -no longer interested.......

The 247 National guy’s were saying that Zach Harrison (#1 overall recruit on 247, #4 on composite) is the only other DE that has that combo of size and athleticism this year.

06/30/2018 - 1:29pm I think Hinton prefers to…

I think Hinton prefers to play SDE but has the size to play inside (almost) already.  I actually look at it as he will need to earn the right to play End / prove he is explosive enough to edge rush - just like I think Gary could play 3-Tech with a little more weight if it were not such a loss to move him from end.

06/30/2018 - 1:20pm There are only a few targets…

There are only a few targets on the outside that I am aware M is pushing for.  One is Luke Ford a Top 150 kid from CA who claims he wants to take a visit.  More likely/promising is Cornelius Johnson out of Connecticut (Don Brown/Tarik Black connections) who is currently a top 300 kid who is being hyped for a possible rankings jump while competing at the opening this weekend.  Believe this is a ND/M battle at present although I admit I hadn’t seen much about him until recently.  

Wandale Robinson is also being recruited as a slot/offensive weapon ala recent commit George Johnson.

06/30/2018 - 10:26am Looks like another possible…

Looks like another possible run of good news for M!

Q. Johnson had already announced he was going to commit while at the Opening and now I see that David Ojabo is going to commit Monday.

06/29/2018 - 5:56pm They did beta testing for at…

They did beta testing for at least a month with users that volunteered.

06/29/2018 - 5:00pm Since you cited me I tried…

Since you cited me I tried to go back and relisten to the podcast to get the exact projections he made, but for some reason my podcast app keeps defaulting to the most recent one....

The insider was actually “Jim S.” and I am pretty sure the original podcast date was June 6 for those who want to seek it out.

06/29/2018 - 4:54pm Pretty sure this is the case…

Pretty sure this is the case.  I seem to remember M doing a thing with Dakitch one year - a video of them making it seem like he might be in trouble before springing the good news.

06/27/2018 - 1:52pm I read that they are…

I read that they are dangling Viper out as the position for Cine.  

However Cine has more versatility than the other Viper commit.

06/26/2018 - 3:44pm Update - Sam just put it a…

Update - Sam just put it a CB for DiCosmo and his father just tweeted out a link to his interview on WTKA with Sam from last week so I am guessing this projects as a V over Stanford coming up.

06/26/2018 - 1:09pm OtT - off this topic

Can’t…

OtT - off this topic

Can’t make a new topic on Mobile but SHOULD WE STAY BUCKLED?!

I caught the tail end of Sam Webb this AM and the first few minutes of Spath and both hinted at more (multiple?) good recruiting news likely to be discussed tomorrow.  Not looking for paywall info but does anyone have details?  Was thinking it could mean W. Robinson, DiCosmo, or that Safety from the DC area - guessing the 5 stars will still be waiting a bit.

06/26/2018 - 12:40pm It just seems like a weak…

It just seems like a weak argument to me.  Players CAN transfer under the existing rules and/or go to a JuCo if they don’t want to sit a year.   Players agree to the rule when they sign their LOI or financial agreements.

It seems to me - specific to football - the lack of an alternative out of HS is a better argument.  Being a free market believer, maybe this is an opportunity for Non Power-5s to split away and offer more open transfer options as an enticement to lure higher ranked players out of HS.

 

As Coyote mentions below, a total free agency approach - which may actually help Michigan - is bad for the sport imo.  I don’t want to see Saban (or Harbaugh) approaching George Karlaftis at Purdue in 3 years and say come to my school for your 3rd year and we’ll get you a 1st round selection in the draft and a chance at a NC.

06/26/2018 - 12:08pm Am I missing why this is a…

Am I missing why this is a big deal?

”Judge decides institution can set its own rules.”.  This does not preclude the NCAA from changing the rule themselves - which they are exploring.

This is completely different than the O’Bannon case imo - players have recourse, just not the ease of transfer they desire.

Personally, I am completely against a free-for-all transfer system in the NCAA.  Even if/when the players rightfully get a piece of the revenue stream this is still an academic based system and free agency cheapens it.  Maybe a one-time only transfer when/if a primary coach leaves within the first 2 years at a school would be a happy medium.

06/26/2018 - 10:18am That is only half the story!…

That is only half the story!!!!  The vast pro-Michigan conspiracy actually bumps the ranks of all of our commits so our players are even worse when you consider their “true” star value!!

(adding a Boom RCMBed....)

06/25/2018 - 9:27pm Harrod is out as far as I…

Harrod is out as far as I know.  I don’t subscribe to the pay sites but the rumblings I have seen seem to indicate that he is moving down Michigan’s (and others) offer boards.

otherwise, I think the list you have is OK - I think Gray might be interchangeable with Wandale Robinson and that would be 21.

I think that is technically the MAX of reliable scholarships for next year.  I could see M try to stretch 2 or 3 more to accommodate any of Harrison, Cine, Daxton Hill, Crouch, or that top 100 receiver out of Cali.

A recent recruiting podcast (maybe about 1 month back) from Rivals with “Dotman” went through overall numbers but iirc to just to get to 21 we need 2-3 non renewed 5th years (next year), 2-3 early exits/transfers, and 2-3 early NFL entries - over and above Gary.

 

06/25/2018 - 4:51pm thanks for the info. …

thanks for the info.  Rankings (and Bluey..because "rankings") would agree with that assessment, but sometimes they aren't accurate when these kids are late bloomers or avoid camps. 

Sorry about the RCMB "slur" by association.  For some reason I thought you were "Rocky" on the other board - another person who seems to be a Football guy above all else (though he is definitely a Spartan first).

06/25/2018 - 4:29pm I agree but then they do…

I agree but then they do have Turner a 4-star and almost in their top 150 --- so at least they are right on one kid.....

ESPN is heavily focused on their "properties" = SEC  and to a lesser extent the ACC and thus seem to either pay more attention in those regions or just hype those regions more since most of the kids end up at the schools they have rights to.  Turner is again a case-in-point - as the 37th ranked kid in GA he is 154 overall on ESPN.  On 247 and Rivals he is currently ranked in the high 40s in GA which equates to 450+ overall.

I think ESPN needs to "put-up or shut-up" on recruiting coverage.  Best concept IMO is to work a deal with Rivals (247 is CBS so that won't happen) to supply/promote recruiting info to their followers which would allow them to maintain their programming coverage of the Opening, Elite 11, and UA game - which is what they are primarily concerned about. 

 

PS - I normally would worry about Tom VH in the scenario above but he seems like a survivor.  -- I could see him as an eventual replacement for Kiper on Draft coverage ---- (his twitter followers know that his dessert game is already stronger than Kiper's) 

06/25/2018 - 3:21pm What is your thought between…

What is your thought between this young man and the Wandale Robinson(?) kid who was also on campus this weekend?  

I am not sure the staff sees this as an “either-or” choice, but they seem to have similar fits = offensive weapon with a focus on slot - if not similar games.

PS - I saw you trying to be the voice of reason on RCMB re: the QB decommit.  Good Luck with that!  As a M fan, I agree that no matter how good MD is at coaching up “his” guys there is a hard ceiling unless recruiting improves overall.

06/25/2018 - 1:00pm I agree in the sentiment but…

I agree in the sentiment but not so sure in this specific case in terms of OSU.  Sam Webb did an interview with Bill Greene about him and while he raved about him as competitor etc., he also noted that he is probably too much of a “tweener” to fit as a true LB or Safety.

He did say that JV looks like a great fit for the Viper position in Brown’s defense...just that this position doesn’t exist in a lot of (base) defenses at other schools.

06/22/2018 - 2:21pm Just wanted to congratulate…

Just wanted to congratulate you on going all in on the “unacceptable!” theme on Twitter Shawn.

As an amateur therapist I might suggest finding a hobby/interest that actually gives you pleasure though.... 

06/13/2018 - 3:26pm Outside of those being …

Outside of those being “encouraged” to look elsewhere, the only type of player I could see being a good candidate would be an non-EE incoming Frosh on the OL or DL that is clearly headed for a redshirt due to weight/body development.  Even then I am sure others would use this against M on the recruiting trail.

06/11/2018 - 5:12pm It is a bug of some sort. …

It is a bug of some sort.  Has happened to me one time since the transition.  I closed my browser and the one on my phone and tried about 5 min later and had no further issues.

06/10/2018 - 6:40pm (No edit function anymore?)

(No edit function anymore?)

To add to the above - On last week's Podcast Wiltfong noted re: Keeegan that he had put in his OSU Crystal Ball a while ago and although he has heard that Michigan is trending, he was not going to change it until he had more solid info.

06/10/2018 - 6:34pm I don't think Harrod is a …

I don't think Harrod is a "take" anymore.

I don't subscribe to the pay sites but thought I heard something like "He had a bad spring" on "the Notorious BIG" podcast with Wiltfong and Trieu a few weeks back.  Not sure exactly what that means but since that time I noticed that Sam Webb has not mentioned his name.

IF we get Keegan and still want to take another I would suspect it would be held for a 5-star type like the kid from Kwity Paye's school out east.

06/09/2018 - 1:37pm There is a post about 5…

There is a post about 5 lines down - “How to get an icon for MGoBoard for your IPhone” - that shows exactly how to do this.  Still a little hokey but it works. — (Not meant to be snarky btw)

06/07/2018 - 5:09pm You need to clear your…

You need to clear your browser history - not a computer expert but I saw that earlier and it worked for me.

06/06/2018 - 11:09am I really miss the optimist…

I really miss the optimist version of MGrowOld from the RichRod days....

That said, the reason I suggested he(or she) is a troll is based on history not this one comment.  I cannot recall a single positive comment since Maizen was banned and created “Bluey”.

Also there is a difference between being hive-minded that everything is great and having distaste for the Debbie Downers who insist that everything is awful.  If someone other than Bluey (or a few select others) had posted this OR Bluey had posted this in the context of  “Gotta get on this kid and make sure 2019 does repeat itself!”, I suspect I (and others) would have reacted differently.

To circle back to the RR comment - the part I do miss from that Era was the fight for hope and “grasping for positive straws” in the threads - probably because we were so beaten down as a fanbase.  I can’t stay on the game threads for more than a few minutes anymore due to the despair or ANGAAR anytime the slightest thing goes wrong.  Maybe it’s just a sign that the “Old Michigan” and corresponding expectations are back...

06/06/2018 - 10:52am Tell you what - We can…

Tell you what - We can revisit this kid and his status as poster child for the colossal failure that is Michigan in-state recruiting when/if he signs with another team in either 19 or 21 months.

 

if you are indeed not a Sparty troll, you are at least exemplifying everything that the RCMB uses to vilify Michigan fans in regard to recruiting being the end-all be-all of potential football success.  Try not to be “that guy”.  Am I happy that we are losing out on top rated kids in the state for the 2019 cycle? No, but I am also not claiming that this is the start of the impending doom for the program.  There are many reasons/excuses for the 2019 in-state situation.  I think we will regret losing the Athlete/DB headed to state and the OT heading to Wisconsin but am on the fence regarding Dobbs despite his ranking.

Lack of recruiting prowess has not seemed to limit the folks up in Lansing - pretty sure that haven’t beaten us in overall or avg. star ranking since at least the RichRod days.  However, if this kid represents a condemnation of Michigan what does it say for the clearly dominant in-state school during his childhood?  Is it possibly more likely that his top list indicates he wants to get away from home in college?  Or maybe that he is playing the game and knows that kids that are seen as “locks” to local (non-southern) schools often get a bit overlooked in the rankings?

i am admittedly much more of a “trust the coaches” person than you seem to be but I suggest giving the new staff members (particularly the 2 young aggressive recruiters with strong Midwest ties) some time to work on the 2020 crop of Michigan kids before declaring a failure.

I promise I will try to ignore your posts going forward and leave you to your misery.

 

PS - This kid is showing up as a 0.94 and a 4-Star on 247 to me so maybe disaster averted?

06/06/2018 - 9:45am Better watch your language. …

Better watch your language.  “September Heisman” isn’t a term used much - if at all - on this board but is used quite commonly on the RCMB to ridicule Michigan.  Wouldn’t want to blow your cover.

06/06/2018 - 3:51am If we are creating a “wish…

If we are creating a “wish list” for the new site, I would love a link to the podcasts archive.  Even on the podbean page (linked in the spoof site yesterday) I cannot find the older episodes - particularly the older signing day/season preview ones and the first Harbaugh one - “I think we’re going to be friends”.   I had most of these saved on my IPad but lost them. 

06/06/2018 - 3:42am I’m not quite ready to worry…

I’m not quite ready to worry about a 2020 recruit at this point.

if M has a good season they will get a good look from an in-state kid.

06/02/2018 - 2:10pm Vic wanted to be a QB in the worst way.

Michigan was honest enough to tell him before he signed that it wasn’t going to happen here. Cal ??maybe not so much. Minnesota was desperate so they took a flyer.

My guess is that he figures if he is going to end up at LB anyway, he may as well do it closer to home.

The part I find humorous is that the “casual fans” will think this is a big deal. After all BTN was hyping the shit out of this HUGE GET when Viramontes announced he was coming to Minnesota.

Good luck Vic! But remember you could be a returning starter on a Don Brown defense this season if you had made different choices.

06/01/2018 - 3:35pm As for Kentucky

that guy on staff that we tried to hire as a TE coach 2 years ago is one heck of a recruiter. Lots of kids in the region that are B1G caliber have Kentucky high on their lists.

Sure they lose a decent number when/if the bigger dogs from the B1G/ACC/SEC come calling but he is making it harder for the Purdue/IU/Illinois/Minnesotas of the world and even occasionally MSU or UM.

06/01/2018 - 3:26pm Lewerke may be the single most

Important player on any team contending for the B1G this year. DeWeaver is gone and I was not very impressed by the RS Frosh Lombardi in what I saw of their Spring game. Lewerke “made a lot of chicken salad” out of what his OL and running game gave them last year.

06/01/2018 - 3:16pm Who out there are you SURE

Is better outside of McSorley? We hope Shea will be and the OSU kid looked to be damn good in his short stint vs. M but I don’t see anybody else in the B1G better than Lewerke.

If MSU goes 11-1 and Lewerke looks good he will get Heisman chatter - I doubt Scott will be impressive enough to be the guy and someone from a team with that record is bound to get the hype. (FYI - I don’t see 11-1 happening but if it did...)

Best case for M this year is that Shea lives up to his potential. That potential is basically Brian Lewerke with probably a better arm and maybe better mobility. (Which is why he was a 5-Star and Lewerke was a 3.5-4 star)

05/31/2018 - 4:36pm I’m with you - would rather have Shea..

Plus you would have the whole butterfly effect. With Treadwell M may have done well enough to keep Hoke in our good graces longer which in turn means Brandon may have never been ousted which means no JMFH.

PS - I don’t dislike Hoke, but whatever bump M would have gotten from a talent like Treadwell would have still left us the cliff that was potentially Morris/Speight QB lineup in 2015 and I doubt Hoke would have been able to grab Rudddddddddddock.

05/31/2018 - 2:57pm He is an Alum

of the school and was one of the biggest voices saying “everyone does it”..... ‘Ole Miss just didn’t do it well and got caught iirc. I listen to his podcast most weeks (mainly for his co-host the S&P guy)

He is part of an on-line video documentary that is coming out soon so I am sure he/they are trying to promote interest however they can.

05/31/2018 - 10:45am As with most arguments

there is a middle ground here. I agree that there has not been a “focus” on recruiting Ohio recently - except possibly the Hoke years. Top kids were always on the radar, but the mid-rated kids seemed to be less on the radar unless M had a relationship or the player expressed interest. I would expect this would change going forward based on the regional strengths of some of the new staff. (Also personal opinion - paring down the number of staff members that were not active/enthusiastic recruiters - read Drevno - will also increase M’s ability to cover local and national prospects better.)

Unlike MSU, Michigan does not have to focus on regional recruiting for most of it’s team, and making inroads in places like TX, FL, GA etc. is valuable going forward.

That said, taking a player from M or Ohio does have the advantage of reducing the talent pool for the regional B1G recruiting teams AND there is at least some value to “knowing the rivalries”.

Going forward - unless there is a benefit in addition to the player (I.e. getting an “in” into Grayson HS in GA) - it is probably better to take an equal talent from MI or OH. The caveat is that coaches need to determine what is “equivalent”. I have seen conflicting arguments that kids tend to be overrated in the talent-rich states due to the increased exposure but also that they can be underrated “since you can’t make them all 4-stars”.

Welcome Zach! You made a great choice both academically and for football.

05/30/2018 - 12:35am To be fair

Brian said almost all frosh WR’s suck, but that with 4 of that caliber there was a better than decent shot that one would break the mold.

His bet was on DPJ but it appeared that Black was well on his way before injury.... double the ypg of any other receiver and near the top in total yards despite playing less than 4 full games.

That said, the gist still was Frosh WRs suck...but, but Michigan!!!

Depressing chart - not just the overall numbers but the clear lack of explosive plays.

05/30/2018 - 12:20am I wouldn’t put it that way

but it seems clear that he REALLY wants to go pro ASAP and is waiting to see who opts out to determine if there is any chance. I will admit that my main reason for thinking this is the fact that he opted for UK out of high school; not a choice for someone who doesn’t want a quick route to the league.

I am bummed out that if he goes it doesn’t do anything except hurt the team next year = we were counting on his leaving next year just to take 2 in the next class (and 1 more early departure if we plan on taking 3).

05/29/2018 - 1:30pm I agree and also think regional fans

see the OSU whitewashing and think MSU is closer to that team than their 2017 record indicates. And before some says it... Yes OSU was also blown but #1... at Iowa and #2 they followed that up by blowing out MSU and others. MSU didn’t blow anyone out last year.

What they did/do have is a mobile/escapable QB that managed to cover for an OL nearly as bad as M’s last year. I still believe that if you swapped Lewerke for JOK/RS Frosh Peters, MSU is much closer to 0.500 and M is pushing 11-12 wins last year.

05/27/2018 - 10:15pm The question was about “talent”

Not how good they are or will be in 2018 - at least how I read it,

In that metric - WR isn’t close - DPJ and Black are more athletic than Darboh and Chesson and there was essentially zero behind them, unlike 2018, Frosh Perry is easily surpassed by SR Perry and Martin.

At TE - You may not have a Jake Butt on the roster but you do have at least 3 good to very good players (McKeon, Eubanks, Gentry) as primarily receivers plus Ty Wheatley as an AJ Williams upgrade. I still think we will miss Asiasi - I have little doubt that he would have been an early entry candidate after year 3 under Harbaugh.

OL is probably a wash in regard to talent. I suspect there are several multi-year NFL starters in this line but more obvious question marks than 2016.

RB - wash but probably deeper

QB - Shea, Brandon, Dillon are more talented on paper than Speight (and I would take any of them as the backup over JOK - little did we know in 2016..)

So I think it is actually the Defense that is the bigger ?? here imo. DL is probably a wash - more top-end talent this year and less (proven) depth. LB is close - lots more depth of talent - but would be hard pressed to take Hudson and Bush over Peppers and Gedeon but the McCray spot may be an upgrade this year (versus 1sr year McCray for sure). CB deeper but not sure you can top JD and Stribling/Clark until proven otherwise, and Safety probably a bit worse on the top end though deeper in talent.

05/27/2018 - 4:32pm So I assume this was the “possible 2018 addition”

That the pay sites were teasing about a week back?

More bodies along the OL are always a good thing. Here’s to hoping this kid plays well enough to earn a scholarship in the future.

05/24/2018 - 1:02pm I suppose the ranking as a WDE

By Rivals counts as some diversity......(or was that a typo?)

05/22/2018 - 4:35pm I believe M pursued pretty hard

early on - after all he is a top-level recruit in our backyard - but it seemed to me that there was never really a strong connection either way so M somewhat de-prioritized him.

I don't follow the pay sites but seeing as we have been "out" for a while I sssumed that he included M on his final 5 this weekend solely to make it look worse when he went to MSU.......... Sorry Sparty!!

I did read on the interwebs that DePaul recently hired one of his AAU coaches so maybe his choice makes a bit more sense.

05/21/2018 - 2:27pm Wasn’t Hunter Johnson also

the QB who was at the same HS as Peters and transferred away to get playing time? Sounds like a great future teammate for somebody.

05/11/2018 - 1:59pm Perhaps “Top Ranked Plan A guys” would be more accurate.

As much as I like the lineup you mention, only Iggy had a recruiting profile similar to these two.

Maybe JB has decided that if his under the radar kids are going to be early entries to the draft anyway, he may as well start recruiting some 2-and-done types with the risk that occasionally one might become a 1-and-done.

05/08/2018 - 3:10pm This is a big concern for OSU

in regard to depth - I had read in several spots that Meyer was appearing to keep it a competition as long as possible to try to keep Burrow in the fold for at least this year.

As for your allusion, I would not be surprised to see Peters transfer AFTER this year (as a grad transfer) IF Patterson doesn’t leave for the draft and/or it is clear that McCaffrey or Milton have passed him. It doesn’t make much sense imo to do this any earlier given he has already taken a RS. Plus I still have hopes for BP to succeed at UM.