CFP rooting interests

Submitted by trueblue262 on

A question for the Mgocommunity in regards to the College Football Playoffs , 

Who do we want to win?  Specifically in the MSU vs ALA matchup? I would think we want the Big Ten to beat an SEC team any day of the week. But to have MSU and OSU do it back to back years??? I'm thinking Roll Tide!  Please persuade me to think different if it means better for 'The Team'

 

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Tuebor

December 7th, 2015 at 3:00 PM ^

Clemson vs OU - Don't care, although I guess I like OU more.

Alabama vs MSU - Hard to root for the Dark Lord Saban but it has to be done for one game.


Championship Game - Winner of Clemson vs OU regardless of who wins Alabama vs MSU.

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Heptarch

December 7th, 2015 at 3:10 PM ^

Untrue.  I am a Michigan fan and I want MSU to win.  First, I have friends and family who are MSU fans and if I can't be happy come playoff time, I want them to be.  Second, I will always root for the state of Michigan unless a win by the team representing the state directly affects U of M football.  Third (or maybe 2b), I don't think MSU winning the NC will affect Michigan football in the long run.  They might see a short term recruiting boost, but sooner or later MSU will regress.  They may never regress all the way back to "Sparty, no!"... but they will always be MSU and we will always be Michigan.

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Heptarch

December 7th, 2015 at 3:24 PM ^

Ok.  We're all entitled to our opinions.  It's not like I'm looking forward to the ridiculous amount of shit-talking and chest-thumping that would come with a MSU national championship, so I understand your position.  I just don't think that them winning would affect Michigan football much in the long run and I like it when my loved ones are happy.  hehehe

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Heptarch

December 7th, 2015 at 3:37 PM ^

I agree.  That's true.  We are MSU's main rival.  They are not ours.  For that reason I can root for MSU, but not OSU.  Sure, I want the Wolverines to beat MSU every year.  But when the outcome of their games doesn't affect me, I'll root for them. The same as I would the Chippewas or the Broncos, etc.  I simply don't care enough about MSU to take pleasure in them losing.

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Steves_Wolverines

December 7th, 2015 at 3:26 PM ^

Look at the facts:
-2014 Cotton Bowl Win over Baylor. Finished season 11-2 ranked #5

-2013 Rose Bowl Win over Stanford. Finished season 13-1 ranked #3

-2012 BWW Bowl Win over TCU. Finished season 7-6

-2011 Outback Bowl Win over Georgia. Finished season 11-3 ranked #10

-2010 Lost to Alabama in Capital One Bowl. Finished season 11-2 ranked #14

Appeared in 3 B1G Championship games in the 5 years (2-1 record). Conference Champions in 2010, 2013, 2015.

Mark Dantonio is 87-32 at MSU (65-15 from 2010-present), x2 B1G Coach of the Year, has beat Michigan 7 of the last 8 years, and is sending QB's to the NFL regularly. 

I'd say the damage is already done, but all of this pales into comparison to what a National Championship would mean for Dantonio and MSU. Figuring their last National Championship was 1966, this would definitely solidify them as a premier college football powerhose this decade. 

So to say that MSU winning it all would have no impact on Michigan is ignorant. As long as Dantonio is coaching MSU, his wave of winning momentum would be near impossible to stop. 

 

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Heptarch

December 7th, 2015 at 3:33 PM ^

"Figuring their last National Championship was 1966, this would definitely solidify them as a premier college football powerhose this decade."  The key words being 'this decade'.  They HAVE been elite this decade.  That script has already been written.  But that rise coincided, suspiciously, with Michigan's fall.  You don't think the two are related?  Do you really believe that they will continue to be an elite program indefinitely now that Harbaugh is at the helm at Michigan?

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Heptarch

December 7th, 2015 at 3:44 PM ^

You're entitled to your opinion, just as I am to mine.  As I said above, while I'm not looking forward to the sort of chest-thumping shenanigans we'll see from Joe Q. Sparty if they win, I would rather see them win since it would make a lot of people I love very happy and I am a big fan of the state of Michigan.

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schreibee

December 7th, 2015 at 3:55 PM ^

Hep, I hope you've enjoyed your near 1 year membership on this here blog, and accumulating all of your -126 points...

But you're about to get run out of here by the torch & pitchfork crowd. If ya skedaddle quick like I think you can make it to the pass before they cut ya off...

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Heptarch

December 7th, 2015 at 7:19 PM ^

I have negative points for one reason:  I had an opinion that a handful of people didn't like and then I wouldn't back down from their internet bullying while they neg-bombed me.  Nothing more or less.  But by all means, make a completely specious argument about how my opinion is supposedly less valid because I have a negative point total.  To me that says way more about you than it does about me.

As for the rest, that crowd doesn't scare me.  It never has.  If people want to neg me for having an opinion and respectfully defending it... again, says more about those people than it does about me.

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CarrIsMyHomeboy

December 7th, 2015 at 3:03 PM ^

Unless Michigan is the champ, fuck the Big Ten, and even then, feel free to let the remainders fail. It will never be the case that a 12-0 Michigan will be overlooked because a theoretically-worst-ever Big Ten "dragged them down" and so long as that's impossible, why should we pretend this is some kind of fraternal order. Because it's not. They are competitors in a zero sum game.

Don't give any competitor an inch on field for them to trade for the recruiting trail, because that's our inch on the recruiting trail they are trading for.

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kevin holt

December 7th, 2015 at 3:08 PM ^

Exactly. Nobody has ever given me a good reason to root for other big ten schools beyond "it looks good for the conference." Okay maybe that theoretically could make the difference of a single seed in basketball but in football it's not going to change a thing. And if it does, it's extremely tenuous to connect it to the success of other teams in the same conference from previous years. The negative impact on recruiting is way too great. I'll root for a B1G team we don't compete with (Iowa) but not MSU/OSU/PSU

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Big_H

December 7th, 2015 at 3:04 PM ^

I can't have MSU in the National Title game.. Just can't think of how awful that would be.

 

I want Notre Dame to lose though, so I'll be rooting for the team they're playing.

 

Is there any way we can finish in the Top 10 if we beat Florida in the bowl game?

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winterblue75

December 7th, 2015 at 3:05 PM ^

I'm obviously not rooting for it, but I'm preparing myself for MSU winning it all. Somehow, someway those soul-selling juggalos are going to find a way to win. They'll scrape by and beat Alabama with a putrid offensive show scoring like 17 points, then they'll turn around and be able to put up 42 to beat Oklahoma. God I hate those fuckers.

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DrMantisToboggan

December 7th, 2015 at 3:05 PM ^

Bama over State obviously. If you have to be told, you need help. 

Oklahoma over Clemson with the idea that Clemson is now the only other team with a shot at Gary, given the Muschamp situation at Auburn. 

I think that's exactly how it plays out too. Then, Oklahoma over Bama as (barely) the lesser of two evils. Bama may win but at that point idk if the winner effects our recruiting all that much. Title game should be a good one. 

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Steves_Wolverines

December 7th, 2015 at 3:06 PM ^

I think we'd be better off seeing Bama vs Oklahoma, and the Sooners winning it all. Also, I think it would help if Bama beats MSU the way they beat ND. Everyone turns off the tv after the first quarter. Then Oklahoma returns the favor by beating Bama like they did in the Sugar Bowl in 2013. 

We have 9 other bowl games to fly our B1G flags and cheer for the conference (8 if you prefer ND beating OSU). As a conference (and for Michigan's betterment, we need our rivals to start losing games), we can afford to have MSU and OSU lose, as long as Iowa, NW, Michigan, Wisconsin, and PSU don't lay gigantic eggs. I'd say depth would be a better sign of conference strength anyways. 

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