Penn State Coach Chambers Suspended for Shove
Yea, as Brian sort of predicted, shoving one of your players on ESPN and never making the NCAA tournament is not a recipe for success. Patrick Chambers has been suspended for a game. LINK.
January 4th, 2019 at 9:51 PM ^
Dakich called it
January 4th, 2019 at 10:57 PM ^
“There will be a 30 for 30 on that.” Or something like that.
That said, suspension deserved. Can’t do that. Shouldn’t do that.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:02 AM ^
I disagree. Players should not be abused, but that’s not what this was. He was trying to fire his player up. This was not a Bobby Knight thing. My high school coach never did this, but he did grab us by the jersey in chest area and push us or pull us in, while holding our jersey. This was done as a passionate coaching moment to show desire, fire and to lock us in to the moment. I never viewed this as bad. On that note, the amount of verbal abuse I saw at the high school basketball level was bad. I witnessed horrible degrading verbal abuse by opposing coaches towards their players. This was all within the last 10 years. My coach was physical, not abusive. The world is not black and white guys. This was ok.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:12 AM ^
My first reaction was "whoa, that wasn't cool". But I'm not sure it's suspension worthy. When I was growing up this wouldn't have made the back page. In today's snowflake society it was almost an obvious suspension. I'm raising two boys and I would not have been outraged by seeing this on TV. These kids need to be tougher in basketball and in life.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:42 AM ^
Yeah, ever watch Varsity Blues? Sorry, but never an excuse to put your hands on a kid like that. Like you sort of stated, it's a parents call to toughen there child. If I were at a game and saw that with my child, I would have asked the coach to put his hands on me, and see what happens. Motivational speech is one thing, physical contact is never called for...if a freaking game
January 5th, 2019 at 10:54 AM ^
Lol. He’s not a kid first of all. Second of all when I was a kid, my coach did this and as an athlete I liked it. It fired me up.
January 6th, 2019 at 1:27 PM ^
Its all these damn snowflakes. Back in my day, you could punch a kid, throw a chair, choke a kid. Heck, we even tacitly allowed racism. Oh, and there was none of this #MeToo Crap -- us Good Ole Boys could do whatever we wanted to female Co workers.
My, nostalgia is a heck of a drug.
I'll get off your lawn now sir.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:21 AM ^
I cracked up when he said that.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:58 AM ^
Dakich thinks everything should be a 30 for 30.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:24 AM ^
Everything should be provided it eats into Stephan A Smith's airtime
January 5th, 2019 at 10:29 AM ^
A 30 for 30 on max bielfeldt’s calves. That might be in dakich’s dirty collection though. The guy about had an orgasm every time they showed the calves
January 5th, 2019 at 10:25 AM ^
So, why wasnt Harbaugh suspended for punching Speight in the chest prior to his taking the field. Much more force behind that blow than Chambers'.
/s. Sort of.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:47 PM ^
I was thinking a similar thought. Harbaugh is literally punching players in the shoulders. And I love it. The difference is that his intent is to motivate, the penn state coach was pushing as if to elevate to a street fight.
January 4th, 2019 at 9:52 PM ^
Bobby Knight is not impressed.
January 4th, 2019 at 9:56 PM ^
Pretty weak shove. I'm betting someone told him it was on camera broadcast or else he wouldn't have apologized immediately after the game. Would've just brushed it off as normal player encouragement.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:23 PM ^
How was his pad level?
January 4th, 2019 at 10:24 PM ^
One-third of Urban's suspension for a decade of harboring a wife-beater.
January 4th, 2019 at 9:57 PM ^
Yep, this was coming. Want to appreciate someone’s fire and passion but come on, man. A. You can’t do that. B. We’re a basketball school now, you weren’t going to “win the game”.
January 4th, 2019 at 9:58 PM ^
Kind of surprised actually. My JV football coach did much worse...but he was also part of the county sheriff's office so he could get away with it I guess. I just thought physical contact with players was kind of normal.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:19 PM ^
In a different era, this was standard practice. You did not even think about it.
I worked with a guy that played for Bo at Miami of Ohio. He said that Bo used to grab players by the facemask and kick them while screaming at them. He said that Bo was the meanest SOB he ever met in his life.
My JV coach in the early '70s would not let us have any water at all during practice. He said it would slow us down. I spent all practice dreaming of chocolate milk.
Nobody thought there was anything unusual about any of this. If we would have complained to our parents, they would have said: "You went out for football, what did you expect?"
January 4th, 2019 at 10:32 PM ^
Summer practices(back then) they used to give us salt pills. Presumably cuz we were sweating like pigs. Wanted to replace salt we lost?
I doubt that happens today. Not sure though.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:04 AM ^
Sports drinks have essentially replaced that.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:34 PM ^
Yup, I had baseball coaches who denied us water during practice in the early 80s. One said it would make us soft, and we had to toughen up. Dumbass...
January 4th, 2019 at 10:50 PM ^
Water was for pussies according to my coach in the early 80's.
January 5th, 2019 at 1:42 AM ^
Yes. My pops did stats for Bo at Miami and we have never been able to reconcile his experience as a staff member with mine as a .student and fan. We should be happy that times and expectations have changed.
January 5th, 2019 at 4:15 AM ^
The water thing was just bad science. I remember (late 80s, early 90s) them telling us just to take a few sips so we don't cramp up.
Also had a freshmen coach slam a kid up against a locker at halftime. He wasn't mad at the kid, just had the bad luck of being the closest at hand. Wasn't even yelling at him, yelling at all of us.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:17 AM ^
Not much of an athlete, I went out for the Daily, where we were always well-hydrated, thanks to a nickel Coke machine that I believe was subsidized by the Board of Student Publications. The Board obviously didn't subscribe to that bad science since they weren't concerned about our fingers cramping up as we typed.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:56 AM ^
chuck norris worthy comment. or maybe robert conrad: go ahead, knock that nickel coke off my shoulder.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:54 AM ^
Only time I ever had a coach put his hands on me was my JV BBall coach (who was a lot shorter than me) who grabbed me by the ears to yank me down to his level and yell in my face to get my head out of my ass. Not really all that terrible, and he was right about the ass part, but I think there's a larger point - we were a really bad team trying to run Indiana's Motion Offense and I was completely clueless what I was supposed to do. I never was and never have been as confused in a sport in my entire life. We didn't practice proper boxing out, shooting form, or anything unimportant like that, but we were going to run Motion. High school coaches trying to be 'The General' was a thing back then; it wasn't enough to try to duplicate the schemes, apparently, you had to emulate the demeanor and personality, too.
I imagine football coaches were trying to be Bo, Woody, and Bear.
January 5th, 2019 at 9:59 AM ^
That's the thing, back in the day there was no "science". There was barely technique.
"Rub some dirt on it" wasn't a joke, that was the attitude. There was little sophistication.
There were a few instructions, and the rest was effort and hustle and savvy.
When Hoke used to say he "felt" football, that was actually a pretty common approach to it all.
January 4th, 2019 at 11:14 PM ^
It is normal...in Happy Valley. Oh, not that kind?
January 4th, 2019 at 10:00 PM ^
This also answers the question: "What must a Penn State Coach do to be disciplined?"
January 4th, 2019 at 10:27 PM ^
I wish I had the ability to upvote this.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:03 PM ^
Eh one game suspension. Not much to make of it. I dont think its a big deal but a neither is a one game suspension. I dont know if if this guy is a known hot head but im sure everyone can move on amicably.
January 5th, 2019 at 7:52 AM ^
I think it's a totally appropriate punishment
January 4th, 2019 at 10:12 PM ^
Don’t touch your players when you’re angry. It’s never going to be a good decision.
January 5th, 2019 at 6:47 AM ^
Kid was probably goofing off in the huddle but I can see how that certainly warranted a suspension. It was worse than what I thought after only reading about it.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:15 AM ^
It was less than I thought after reading about it. Sure suspend him, but dang that was pretty weak. I’ve been more appalled at Brian Kelly screaming at players and grabbing face masks.
January 5th, 2019 at 11:29 AM ^
I was actually just as appalled at how bad he was shredding the young man verbally. He wasn't goofing off in the huddle, he was out of position and gave up an easy 3 because of it. The point is, the player didn't make the mistake on purpose. Tell him how to correct it, or if you think it was due to inattentiveness, bench him. I mean, JB yells at his players but you can tell he respects them.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:16 PM ^
Totally unacceptable and coach got off easy, imo.
What would've happened to the player if he shoved the coach?
Thrown off team. Kicked out of school? At least lost his scholly.
Don't be physical with players or coaches.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:19 PM ^
Agree with the suspension and the apology. He knows he was wrong and will try to do better going forward. I assume the player and his family are fine with how things stand. I think everyone can move forward from here.
January 4th, 2019 at 10:59 PM ^
Weak. My pee wee football coach did much worse and nobody cared because we weren't pussies.
January 4th, 2019 at 11:20 PM ^
Yup. Mine used to hit us with clipboards and whistles. It was sick.
January 5th, 2019 at 1:57 AM ^
You sure are whining about it like a little pussy.
January 5th, 2019 at 10:15 AM ^
Well, then I dare say that your pee wee football coach had some problems that he should have attempted to sort out before he took on the role of coach.
Now, to be fair, I had a coach in baseball that thought shouting at the top of one's lungs was supremely motivating, especially if you mixed in the odd threat. I am here to say that it is quite the opposite and that the day I gave it right back to him was one of the most satisfying of my life apart from being benched for some time afterwards.
January 4th, 2019 at 11:18 PM ^
I remember, kind of, getting knocked out cold with a helmet to helmet, read: regular ass tackle, and the coach “revived” me by smacking the shit out of my head/helmet and yelling at me to get off the field so they could run a play, but no water. Because it was for, well you guys get where this is going.
January 5th, 2019 at 2:28 AM ^
What are ya a girl or somethin?!
/zach galafianakis sarcasm
January 5th, 2019 at 12:06 PM ^
When it happens at recess we call it bullying and we are not OK with it...
January 5th, 2019 at 2:07 AM ^
I graduated high school in ‘96. The best coach I ever played for would grab face masks and wasn’t afraid to push kids around much like what we just saw from the Penn St. coach. Part of me shrugs and thinks this is not a big deal and part of me in retrospect thinks that of all of the things our coach taught us and got out of us as a team, him pushing and shoving us around didn’t influence any of it. It was completely unnecessary and probably a type A alpha male getting frustrated and getting physical.
Big deal? Nope. Should we expect more from coaches? Yep.