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09/20/2018 - 1:50pm Yes, I do agree it’s…

Yes, I do agree it’s different and Meyer is more directly responsible than Cuban. However, I just think we need to be wary of looking at billionaire owners as people just having a side gig. This was happening for a significant amount of time under his watch - whether he is there everyday or not. If he’s going to own a team, he needs to set it up in a way in which lower level employees feel comfortable to come forward. If he didn’t set it up that way, a lot of blame should fall on his shoulders. 

Fortunately, he appears to be taking the criticism to heart in a good way and not in a defensive way. 

09/20/2018 - 10:25am I don't think it being hot…

I don't think it being hot is new as we've had plenty of Septembers where the temps are still in the high 70s. However, the humidity is not something I recall too often. It's been sticky and gross. 

09/20/2018 - 9:17am We can't look at it like…

We can't look at it like that. It absolves him of any blame for many issues in his organization. If things are happening under some of the executives he hired, that's still on him because he hired those executives that were either committing the transgressions or sweeping them under the rug. He may not be in the office every single day, but he's around enough to be able to have an idea of what goes on. I work in a small non-profit but there is a clear heirarchy. But there are clear guidelines, that we thoroughly explain to every new employee or intern, about who to go to if Person X, Y, or Z is harassing you or wronging you in some way. Even if it's the director, we still have contact information available for who they need to go to. I'd like to think we've created an environment where someone would be safe and comfortable if they were coming forward with an allegation. If billionaires aren't creating that kind of environment in their organizations, that's on them. 

09/19/2018 - 11:43am Remember that Urban has…

Remember that Urban has memory loss. He probably forgot how good of a player Hernandez was when talking to certain teams. With others, he was able to remember. But sometimes he remembered Hernandez' behavior off the field. And other times he didn't. Damn meds. 

09/18/2018 - 8:31pm All the Amines are ours! 

All the Amines are ours! 

09/17/2018 - 8:24am Normally, I'd agree. But the…

Normally, I'd agree. But the team has look ill-prepared and uninterested in the first two games. None of the veterans seem to like him. Players can hate you and it'll work out if you're Belichick. But Patricia is not Belichick. He's a guy that coordinated an average defense for the best franchise in football. 

I don't think he will be fired, and probably shouldn't be fired. But anything less than a playoff appearance and he should be gone IMO. Get rid of Quinn too. Can't hire this guy and keep your job. 

09/17/2018 - 8:18am Quinn, on paper, was a good…

Quinn, on paper, was a good hire. Patricia? There is no evidence that Patricia is a good hire. The only people advocating for him were the media - because he is a Belichick assistant and they all get pumped up as HC candidates - and anybody with ties to the Pats. Unfortunately, the Lions had one of those guys running their team. I've never been optimistic about him. Quinn proved he's not capable of running an NFL team because he can't look outside of the Pats. 

09/16/2018 - 9:55pm I actually liked Quinn…

I actually liked Quinn before he hired Patricia. Think he’s drafted alright and had a few good FA signings. But the fact he thought Patricia would be a good hire shows he can’t evaluate this league objectively. Would have rather kept Caldwell and gone 9-7 again than hire our current coach. Everyone outside NE, the Lions front office and the national media knew it would be a failure. Unfortunately, Patricia will probably get two years minimum. 

09/16/2018 - 2:26pm So the answer to avoid…

So the answer to avoid sifting through the bile of snowflake threads is to create more bile to sift through? 

09/16/2018 - 1:09pm Hard to take too much from…

Hard to take too much from this. PAC 12 officials may swallow the whistle more than other conferences. NFL officials call lots of penalties. B1G May call a lot. 

09/16/2018 - 11:59am When you wonder why…

When you wonder why survivors don’t come forward and don’t go to police and aren’t in the limelight leading the charge against abusers, think about how prominent abusers and enablers get softball interviews on platforms like Sportscenter and get to dictate their own redemption. Survivors get grilled and scrutinized on details more than the people accused of the transgressions. 

09/14/2018 - 10:43am No complaints about his…

No complaints about his career here. Feels like the true end of an era. 

09/12/2018 - 1:40pm Means we fell on our faces…

Means we fell on our faces against some mediocre teams. Both Moeller and Carr had 13 losses in their first 5 seasons (only 5 for Moeller). Moeller lost to 9 ranked teams and 4 unranked teams. Carr lost to 10 ranked teams and 3 unranked teams. This would be more of a bugaboo for the second half of Carr's career - losing games we shouldn't have. Over his last 8 years, we lost to 11 unranked teams, and 5 additional games against teams ranked in the 20s. 

Moeller's two worst seasons as HC were his last two seasons. Carr's two worst seasons as HC were his first two (until 2005). So Moeller seemed to be trending down and Carr was trending up. I mean, 10 of his thirteen seasons, we won 6+ games in conference play. Since then, we've had 4 and only 1 7+ win conference season (and that was a season in which we had 9 conference games. Lloyd only had 8 each year). 

Personally, I think alot of people are choosing Moeller because there's a "what if" factor there. We don't know for sure what he would have done had he stayed as HC. He could have continued to trend downward, or he could have won the conference 8 of the next 10 years. With Carr, we know that the second half of his career was filled with alot of missed opportunities. 

09/12/2018 - 12:22pm How Michigan teams of the…

How Michigan teams of the past fared after an early season nonconference loss. What was the common thread for teams that rebounded vs teams that continued to struggle 

09/12/2018 - 12:19pm I liked her character. It’s…

I liked her character. It’s not one that’s going to stick around more than just a recurring character for a season though. The Gang is already established and you can’t add someone to it like you could early on in the show with Frank. She was what each member of the gang would be if they were competent and rational.

09/12/2018 - 7:08am I don’t think so. Moeller…

I don’t think so. Moeller won 7+ conference games once at Michigan in 5 seasons and two seasons where we won 6 conference games. Carr had 5 7+ win conference seasons in 13 years, and 5 where we won 6. 

Lloyd also had an incredible record against top teams on the first half of his coaching career. 11-1 vs top 10 teams from 1995-1999. That’s pretty amazing. Moeller was 7-5-1

09/11/2018 - 1:06pm This is a huge point. And I…

This is a huge point. And I'm pretty much speechless. Not that we thought they had done a good job of introspection before, but it really negates any part of investigations he was a part of since he might have had something to hide. Despicable. 

09/10/2018 - 9:53pm Fire Patricia and Quinn…

Fire Patricia and Quinn. Thought BQ has done ok with player acquisition (draft and FA) but when he hired Patricia, I knew it was going to be a disaster. They’ll both be out of a job after next season. Might as well fire them now and get the next era started. 

09/10/2018 - 7:42pm The rule book creators hate…

The rule book creators hate the Lions

09/10/2018 - 7:41pm She’s one of the best play…

She’s one of the best play by play analysts ESPN has IMO. Better than 95% of the people they have for football. I like Mcdonaugh and Fowler more. That’s probably it. 

09/09/2018 - 7:50am If he was going 4-8 every…

If he was going 4-8 every year while the AD debating on whether or not to continue the football program, I’d be impressed. Instead, he’s got them a game over .500 going back to 2016. I don’t know how good of a coach he’d be elsewhere, but he’s done a great job at EMU. 

09/06/2018 - 9:55pm This isn’t even remotely…

This isn’t even remotely close to being true. Other than Winovich, Furbush and Watson, every single player that graded positive was a JH recruit. 

09/06/2018 - 9:49pm That one OSU writer that has…

That one OSU writer that has a history of writing some sexist and misogynistic shit should have been gone, easily. If it was a newspaper, he’d have been gone in a heartbeat. I think it was Dave Biddle. 

09/06/2018 - 12:05pm They must have both been…

They must have both been playing the Rod Allen drinking game and it got out of hand. 

09/05/2018 - 2:49pm I've read your words. Your…

I've read your words. Your empathy only goes so far as to survivors that respond in the way YOU see fit. No empathy as to why someone might not cooperate with authorities. That is shaming and victim blaming. 

You want survivors like Brenda to come forward but continue with an attitude that isn't conducive to supporting an environment where they would feel more comfortable coming forward. You want the cart before the horse. It doesn't work like that. Nobody can read what you say and come away thinking you respect survivors. 

09/05/2018 - 1:26pm Michigan, Texas and…

Michigan, Texas and Tennessee fans should probably just start at the bottom and stay there until good things happen. 

09/05/2018 - 11:47am Personally prefer 1998. Rose…

Personally prefer 1998. Rose Bowl win, hockey wins national title, Wings win their second of back to back Cups. 

09/05/2018 - 10:33am I'm not fine with how people…

I'm not fine with how people talk about, treat and respond to rape and sexual assault (and women or marginalized people in general). 

As for my personal life, I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion at hand but without divulging details, I'm doing just fine. 

09/05/2018 - 10:30am Didn't we hear that JH wasn…

Didn't we hear that JH wasn't all that involved in offensive game plans until the OSU game? And that was arguably our most effective game in terms of play calling. We just had a corn cob throwing in the backfield. 

09/05/2018 - 9:59am You said there was no excuse…

You said there was no excuse for a survivor not to go to the police. That is shaming them and in the end, discourages people from coming forward. I’m just telling you to do some research on the subject before you engage in it because you will do more harm than good with your current attitude toward survivors. Brenda Tracy does great work and you baselessly criticized her for doing a job she loves, and makes a tangible difference in sexual assault and rape prevention. I’m just fine with how I handle debates. You can spare me your tut tutting. 

09/05/2018 - 6:44am I guess you missed the point…

I guess you missed the point. It’s more uncivil to victim blame and perpetuate a culture in which survivors are fearful or anxious to come forward than it is to curse, name call or debate BS in an “uncivil” manner. What you are doing potentially has a tangible negative effect on someone in your life if they were to go through something like this as I imagine you express the same attitudes offline. Civility politics are pointless anyways when it comes to things that are objectively wrong (like victim blaming). We are not debating the tax code. 

09/05/2018 - 6:37am And you should probably sit…

And you should probably sit out threads dealing with sexual assault or rape (or anything traumatizing) unless you recant your victim blaming and do some actual research on the subject. 

Heres one example: https://www.npr.org/2018/02/06/583778370/a-false-report-highlights-how-women-who-report-sexual-assault-are-treated

09/05/2018 - 6:31am It’s a message board, just…

It’s a message board, just having a laugh.    Just a passionate subject for me and I don’t tolerate BS when it comes to this stuff. However, point taken. 

09/04/2018 - 9:41pm This is too political for a…

This is too political for a Michigan blog, and I, as the most rational poster in the history of the MGoBlogosphere, will make my opinion know . 

/Section1’d

09/04/2018 - 9:36pm “I’d have more respect for…

“I’d have more empathy for her if she had not stopped cooperating with authorities” is denigrating her work. Only an ignorant asshole would think otherwise. 

09/04/2018 - 8:29pm Good think we beat that team…

Good thing we beat that team that lost by 30 in the Rose Bowl. Makes me feel much better. 

09/04/2018 - 7:16pm I feel I am being more civil…

I feel I am being more civil than those that are engaging in victim blaming. Which expresses a far more detrimental attitude than anything I’ve said. And your content in this thread - focusing more on “virtue signaling” than, you know rape, sexual assault, victim blaming etc - is more detrimental than me being “uncivil.” Fuck civility politics. 

09/04/2018 - 7:04pm Holy virtue signaling Batman…

Holy virtue signaling Batman! 

Nobody asked for your holier than thou lecture on interactions in the social media age. The fact that you gave it unsolicited is pretty tone deaf considering the topic you’ve ranted on in this thread. What the fuck. 

09/04/2018 - 6:50pm Lol. I didn’t insult you. I…

Lol. I didn’t insult you. I just said it’s a stupid point, which it was. I’m sorry that you’re upset about it? Not really though. 

Education is the most effective (duh), but how many people will become interested in Brenda’s work because of the publicity? I’m willing to venture that a few will. HS coaches might consider connecting their players with educational organizations regarding this issue. 

09/04/2018 - 6:39pm This is a stupid point. Yes,…

This is a stupid point. Yes, a vast majority will say that rape or sexual assault is wrong. Yet it’s a major problem in his country. Just like how a majority of people say racism is wrong yet it’s still one of the dominant forces in the world. 

09/04/2018 - 6:23pm Victim blaming is not…

Victim blaming is not reasonable and is inherently inflammatory. 

09/04/2018 - 6:13pm Dude, look up stories on how…

Dude, look up stories on how police consistently fuck these kinds of investigations. I know several people that went to press charges and walked out more traumatized than they were after the rape/sexual assault. When it comes to trauma, you’ve got to give he victim time to come forward when they’re ready. You can’t force them. Comments like yours do more to discourage survivors coming forward. You can’t say “come forward” without first providing an environment in which they will feel comfortable doing so. Saying you don’t respect someone because they didn’t cooperate does the exact opposite of what you’re saying you want to happen. You have absolutely no empathy. Your arrogance is blinding you. 

09/04/2018 - 6:09pm Only if you’re looking for a…

Only if you’re looking for a reason to criticize it. 

09/04/2018 - 6:08pm Like I said, ignorant or an…

Like I said, ignorant or an asshole. 

09/04/2018 - 6:06pm There is no other way to…

There is no other way to interpret “Id have more respect for her if she cooperated with authorities” other than to take it as victim blaming. Shut the fuck up. She’s not having people sign petitions at Michigan Stadium. She’s not giving a long speech or advocating for legislation there. It’s not a splashy PR move considering I don’t see it anywhere in mainstream sports news. You’re a moron and the sooner you accept that, the better off you’ll be. Might even be able to make some friends. 

09/04/2018 - 5:57pm You’re either ignorant or an…

You’re either ignorant or an asshole if you can’t think of reasons why a survivor wouldn’t cooperate with police. 

Besides, you don’t even know how much she makes so chill with your “profiting off of sexual assault/rape” line. She’s not some motivational speaker grifting organization’s and kids. Her work is tangible. 

09/04/2018 - 5:56pm Probably, considering that…

Probably, considering that JH brought her to speak over the summer, which was scheduled months in advance. And that she thought he was very responsive to her message and they’ve struck up a friendship of sorts. And it’s not like Brenda is sitting on her ass waiting to be invited to a game. This was probably in the works for the last month or so. 

09/04/2018 - 5:36pm Only a bonafide asshole…

Only a bonafide asshole victim blames a gang rape survivor and then tries to portray himself as some sort of victim of a mob mentality 

09/04/2018 - 5:29pm When I made the thread, I…

When I made the thread, I knew it was only a matter of time until Section 1.fuckoff came and dropped his unwanted bullshit. Apologies to all that have to read it. Should have provided a trigger warning for his victim blaming 

09/04/2018 - 3:49pm Still fine with 9-3. But 7…

Still fine with 9-3. But 7 wins is far more likely than 11. And 8 is probably more likely than 10. 

Our defense is still elite IMO. ND just made a lot of 50/50 plays and those should balance out on the year. Offense needs work but if we can get Runyan to be not a tire fire (not even average, just not a revolving door) or Hudson comes in and is better than our offense will take a big step forward from what we saw against ND.