Any chance Beilein can come back and coach?
Would he do it? What would he need? Could he do it?
The thread about greatest bball teams really got me thinking how fun and competitive even his very esrly teams were. I would take those teams over anything Howard has thrown out there since year 1.
I know hes 71 but 70 is the new 50. We have 80 year olds with alot more authority in this country than a college basketball coach. Please make this happen. I use to love this time of year and I probably wont even watch the tournament, its just so crappy to have a team this bad.
Why not?
He walked away once, so it's a given that he felt like his work was done here. And the landscape of college sports has vastly changed since he was here.
I think he just wanted to try the nba and see if he could catch lightning in a bottle. I dont think he ever thought his work was done.
I dont think the landscape changes matter that much to Michigan basketball. You can find 7-8 dudes who want to play for Michigan. Get yourself some shooters, hustlers and a big guy that can stretch the floor and you are dancing most years and having fun. I would love to have any of his teams over what we have rn.
There is no question he could come back and coach, but what would it get either party? He isn't going to stay long enough to build a program from scratch, he was scarcely involved with transfer portal stuff and certainly doesn't know how that game is played today. He would be coming into no players who fit a Beilein type scheme. Those committed to play for Howard would likely decommit. Why would anybody want it? What's in it for anybody?
Hopefully players committed to JH don't decommit, but that happens during coaching changes. Hopefully there is a coaching change.
I want a coaching change. I don't think Beilein makes sense.
Give me Beileins scraps for the 24/25 season over whatever players were going to stay for Howard any day. That being said he is probably enjoying the fruits of his labors why torment the poor man any further? Iggy and Poole were the final nail in the coffin dont make him navigate NIL and the portal at his age. That being said I would be ecstatic if he came back.
It would be nice to see him on the sideline again. I don't think we would get the same result as before.
I agree with you overall that Beilein is absolutely not the answer, but what players have committed to play for Howard? It doesn’t look like anyone on this team has.
We have 3 players committed to us 2 signed. Christian Anderson who I think is going to be a hell of a player and we have one other guard from Grand Rapids I believe who is rated in the top 200. The other guy is a borderline 5 star who is committed but hasn't signed his LOC. I would like those guys to stay committed even if Juwan leaves.
I'm not sure he doesn't know how that game is played today. He's an analyst with BTN so it's not like he's that far removed. That said I think we should start over with some ambitious young HC at a lesser school or assistant at a top school.
He made comments at the time that it was more than just wanting to try the NBA. It was more of he didn't like all the changing aspects of college and was done, but wanted to try the NBA before being done with basketball for good.
He seemed over the entire experience of having guys leave early for the NBA. I think it was Jordan Poole leaving early that pretty much convinced him he didn't want to continue on with the college game. Throw in the fact guys he recruits could get offered <del>a bag</del> NIL by other programs and the fact he would likely lose guys to the portal and I don't think he'd want to put up with the current version of college basketball.
MK, the whole reason JB left to go pro was he HATED THE WAY COLLEGE BASKETBALL WAS AND GOING MORE TO. Now that it is way worse then when he left I highly doubt JB would want to come back and deal with this. He loves to teach the game especially the fundamentals. He does that with the Pistons, he gets to teach players the way to play the game the right way.
JB was great and he had a few bad seasons which were corrected by him and built our program up. He will always be my favorite Mich Bball coach.
Pete Thamel reporting that previous story re. Spike Albrecht and tiramisu riddled with inconsistencies. Beilein did, in fact, allow Albrecht to have delicious, beer battered dessert, despite being only 19 years of age at the time.
Sources have confirmed NCAA is actively looking at new forms of sanctions to punish Universities instead of current players. Hearing that Michigan will likely be forced to retain Juwan Howard indefinitely.
Lets be honest if Juwan was hanging banners he would be on the Chargers staff right now.
BPONE you dirty mistress!!
Anonymous Big Ten coaches say Mitch McGary stole "Win the Game" from Ryan Day via in-person scouting. Juwan likely to be retained another decade.
He left Michigan because he hated having to deal with recruiting bullshit. With NIL and the transfer portal, all of the bullshit he hated has only gotten worse.
Exactly. He got burnt out by the recruiting and having guys constantly leave early (even diamond in the rough recruits, not just 5*s). He went to the NBA bc he just wanted to coach. Then he quickly realized that's the last place you want to go if you're a fundamentals coach.
He may have been burnt out, but he may be ready to coach again. I'm not saying he will, but he reportedly showed interest in the WVU job. His comment on the BTN about UM basketball shows that he still has some ownership in the program. Maybe.....
He's 71, so that seems unlikely.
The Beilein era was one of the greatest eras in the history of Michigan Basketball, if not the greatest. But it's in the past. Obsession with the past is what landed us in this mess (Juwan would never have been hired if he wasn't ex-Fab Five).
It would take him a couple years to teach the players basketball. He doesn’t want to do that.
Any dude who can win the Big Ten with an unathletic 6'4" white guy starting at power forward deserves a 500 billion dollar a year contract and coach of the decade.
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Maybe
Been there-
Done that.
Appreciate but his time is over.
Been there done that? Thankfully, you are not the one doing the hiring.
Nope. Because once you walk away from college ball at his age, you don't come back: it was no longer the game that he wanted to coach.
Edit/add: See Saban, Nick ;-)
If you're going to use Nick Saban (football) as an example then you make it super easy to point to guys like Bill Snyder and Bill Walsh who both returned back to a college they left in their 60s to finish out their career.
No. Warde is about to crown Juwan coach for life. The guy can coach. His system works. It's the kids who are wrong.
EDIT: didn't think i would need the /s. But here you go /S
It's the kids who are wrong.
But who recruited them??
Including his own.
Fans are wrong too.
EDIT: didn't think i would need the /s. But here you go /S
Next time just bypass the /s and use the sarcasm font.
No way. NIL and all the other shite would eat him alive.
What a stupid take. He flourished by molding unheralded 3 stars into first round picks. The man never needed bag men and doesn't need NIL to succeed. Barnes doing well at Tennessee. Despite Tennessee history in football, he's an above the table guy with high moral compass. Beilein would do well but it would take 3-4 years to build back the program
This^^^
Exactly - hire the man for three years and have his replacement on staff to take over. People act like the game has changed so drastically and that the portal is the only way to be successful.
A development-based strategy doesn't work nearly as well when they guys can walk and the door and will get poached with NIL offers from other teams.
Even if you are not putting NIL behind high schoolr recruiting or buying transfer, you still need a competitive NIL program just to hang on to your own roster. Just go ask Hunter Dickinson.
The football program proved that this is not correct. We largely built a national championship team by bringing in well-regarded, but far from blue chip prospects, developing those guys and keeping them. Sure, we had a few 5 starts and high 4 stars, but we also developed and kept them, as well. Our NIL in terms of getting players paid once they are succeeding is not as bad as our NIL for incoming recruits. The same model can work in basketball, but it's obviously critical to identify the kids looking to find a home, develop and win as a team vs. those who just want the largest bag. Harbaugh excelled at that.
Basketball isn't football and losing one guy (who might get drafted on potential or go for NIL money) can really change your team's fortunes.
If you want to operate a successful basketball program in this day, you need an effective NIL program. To think otherwise is a stupider take. It is VERY true that JB was good at identifying unheralded 3 star talent and developing them up significantly. Its just in this day and age, he would be horrible at keeping these types of players on the roster once he developed them.
Case example: Look at Trey Burke. He was a 3-star Penn State commit when we recruited him. JB got his commitment, but they did not get along. We remember after Burke's freshman year, he packed up his room and was looking to transfer (or go pro). We all saw the pictures. JB did a good job convincing Burke to stay, but today a strong NIL school would have scooped him up in a New York minute.
I don't disagree that having a competitive NIL program is important in terms of attracting better recruits. Especially if you want to compete at the highest level. But at this point, I think that most fans would be happy with being a mediocre, competent team filled with players who hustle, care about the team and winning, and develop over time. Think early years Beilein. Even taking NIL into account, there is no excuse for whatever the hell Juwan is doing. We objectively have more talent on our roster than a number of the teams that beat us.
I want a team that plays like McNeese State.
Ok, I'll just say it out loud. Unless we have a competent NIL program, JB teams would be pretty bad record-wise (at best mediocre), maybe making an NCAA tourney once every 5 years or so. Sure, they would look organized and what not, but any major high school talent would not come to Michigan and any developed talent under JB would leave for a sweet NIL immediately. This would mean we would be in a perpetual limbo of mediocrity.
If Northwestern can be in third place, a JB coached Michigan team would be competitive.
All of the bitch and moan about NIL and admissions disappears when you see the Michigan's academic peer can do better than 3-16.
Also, with JB program interest and fan buy-in would be higher so NIL would be at least incrementally better than where it is now.
You are proving my point. Northwestern teams under Chris Collins have been to 2 NCAA tournaments in 10 years. In the new NIL area, a JB lead team could, like Chris Collins, catch lightening in a bottle and make an NCAA a couple times a decade.
Remember, this is not a JB vs JH argument. This is about if JB can compete as a college coach at Michigan in this era. I think JB would fall flat on his face like he did in Cleveland.