Bruce Feldman and Stewart Mandel: Frames Janklin to USC is possible if Helton fired

Submitted by Bambi on November 20th, 2018 at 10:19 AM

Link to article with relevant quotes.

I don't want this to actually happen, because I love playing against Frames. But if it did happen, the absolute meltdown by PSU fans would be worth it.

stephenrjking

November 20th, 2018 at 11:17 AM ^

Have you ever, say, been on a job with coworkers who were working alongside you that casually mentioned that they had to evacuate their house that morning because there was a wildfire on the other side of the hill from them? 

No, I guess not. 

If you actually paid attention to, you know, the news, you would be aware that Malibu is only a small portion of the various wildfires that are affecting California (though they are people too, contrary to your attitude about them).

It's hard to manage an acute combination of willful ignorance and absence of basic human decency in a short sports message board post, but you've done it. Bravo, troll. Bravo. 

DrMantisToboggan

November 20th, 2018 at 11:23 AM ^

Even if the fire was a sentient creature that only attacked and destroyed the property of celebrities, yes, good people still feel bad for people who lose important things to natural disasters. Also, most of the "celebrities" who lost homes in this fire lost their primary residences. If they live and work in LA, the fire wasn't burning down some vacation home they visit for five days every year.

However, as others have pointed out, the celebrities losing their second or third homes makeup an incredibly small portion of the devastation from this fire. You continue to be an absolute cretin on this board.

ak47

November 20th, 2018 at 10:28 AM ^

That is a terrible hire for USC and would give psu the chance to bring in a good hire who could capitalize on the legitimately good talent Franklin has recruited

Mr Miggle

November 20th, 2018 at 11:34 AM ^

USC has made a string of terrible hires. 

Franklin is a weak in game coach. Maybe that will cost his team a game every other season or so. Other than that, he's pretty darn good. If you look at what's most important, it's recruiting, hiring a staff and getting the most out of them. He'll recruit great at USC and his personality should go over well there too.

I think it's a move that makes sense for USC and an absolute no-brainer for Franklin. As well as he recruits at PSU, he'll rarely if ever, have the most talented roster in his own division. That won't be a problem at USC.

njvictor

November 20th, 2018 at 10:37 AM ^

I honestly think that Franklin would be more successful at USC than at PSU. He's a good recruiter and CA has an absurd amount of talent that would seemingly lead to a baseline decent team. And also he doesn't have to deal with the competition of the B1G East

BlueinLansing

November 20th, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^

Idk about the lack of great teams in the P12 South, that's going to change rather quickly.  Utah is already solid under Whittingham, ASU is rocketing up under "play to win the game" and Chip Kelly is going to do things at UCLA once he gets a roster of more than 57 scholarship players.  Throw in Arizona having a coach that actually knows both sides of the football game and things could be very interesting and very tough very quickly in that division.

stephenrjking

November 20th, 2018 at 1:52 PM ^

Utah will never be able to sustain excellence at the level USC is capable of when it is well-run. Wittingham is getting everything he can out of that program, but he'll never get it to a nationally elite level.

USC will have its way with Arizona and ASU. UCLA is the only team in that division that can approach parity with peak USC, but they haven't done that in 20 years, and even with Chip Kelly USC should out-recruit them and feel pretty comfortable. 

lhglrkwg

November 20th, 2018 at 10:39 AM ^

Frames could actually be moderately successful out in LA if he has good coordinators. The guy can obviously recruit and USC is fertile ground for top 5 classes, but the dude obviously isn't an elite X's and O's guy. Seems like the guys background is WR coaching, so maybe I can sorta see where he could be successful as a HC/WR-TE coach with good coordinators

OTOH, the most likely outcome is probably hilarious failure

DrMantisToboggan

November 20th, 2018 at 10:40 AM ^

This just doesn't seem to be a great year to need a new coach.

OSU will probably decide between Matt Campbell and Ryan Day if Urban leaves.

The smartest/luckiest team with a vacancy will hire Matt Wells. 

Seth Littrell and Neal Brown have impressed me. 

Other than that, I'm not sure who the great, young talent who has established themselves as HCs of lower tier programs is.

 

1VaBlue1

November 20th, 2018 at 10:51 AM ^

I'm not sure Littrell or Brown will get much consideration for jobs like OSU, USC, PSU.  Those are big time pressure cookers that will want experience with/against other top 10-like blue bloods.  Yeah, OSU goes with 'coach in waiting' Ryan Day - who would probably be a legit consideration for either USC or PSU (well, Lynn Swann/USC decision making aside), if he's still an assistant whenever they look around.

I think those guys all kick the tires on Mike Gundy, Matt Cambell, and Mike Norvell.  Not sure if Gundy even takes calls, though...

DrMantisToboggan

November 20th, 2018 at 11:28 AM ^

I'm not sure why Mike Gundy keeps getting mentioned when major jobs open up. Do people think he's a fit anywhere other than Oklahoma State?

Gundy is somewhat like their Harbaugh. He was a starting QB at OSU. He's from a town outside of OKC, not too far from Stillwater. His offensive style is made for the Big 12 and he's at a program that doesn't expect him to compete for a playoff spot every year. He rocks a mullet, hunts rattlesnakes, and takes his shirt off sometimes. I don't think Mike Gundy is going anywhere, I think he's absolutely in his perfect niche in life.