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09/20/2018 - 8:48pm RB coach is where teams…

RB coach is where teams often stick an ace recruiter. Interesting choice by Helton.

09/20/2018 - 9:55am That was Josh Metellus who…

That was Josh Metellus who was chewed out. I'd guess he would have had something to say about Hudson's targeting call too but he just talking about his own position groups.

09/20/2018 - 9:44am Yeah and I think if Dobbs…

Yeah and I think if Dobbs just took a dig at Michigan it wouldn't stick out. But his claim was a weird one and he also attacked OSU and USC coaches. The attack on USC came across as petty and weird too.

 

09/20/2018 - 9:35am I wondered about that even…

I wondered about that even at the time he visited. There seemed to be more need at CB/nickleback than slot. My guess was that he and and George Johnson would get looks at both sides of the ball. Maybe offense first if that's what they wanted.

Adding Giles Jackson looks like part of a real effort to change the offense.  It's one of those things that I'll believe when I see it on the field, but it's not just him.  It's not just the multiple potential slots. There are no bruisers in this class. An every down back and a scatback. Only a pass catching TE.

Combine that with Harbaugh already talking about moving Haskins to defense. Van Sumeren is practicing at LB when we'll only have one FB returning next season.  I'm very curious what the offense will look like going forward.

09/19/2018 - 11:41pm Sam Webb sure makes it sound…

Sam Webb sure makes it sound like Sainristil is a silent commit. 

09/19/2018 - 11:30pm This will probably sound…

This will probably sound like sour grapes, but after seeing the comments Dobbs made about some of the other schools when he committed to MSU, I'm glad he's not coming here. Here's what he had to say about Michigan's coaches.

“The last meeting I was in, I told them they acted like robots and I just wasn’t comfortable around them. I said it wasn’t a place I wanted to be.”

Not every player is a good fit. Hearing how important the relationships with other recruits in his class was to Daxton Hill reinforces how mature most of Harbaugh's recruits sound in interviews.

09/19/2018 - 1:48pm Their wrestling scandal…

Their wrestling scandal predated Smith's tenure.

So basically the question is why haven't they fired Smith for how the football program has done under his watch?

09/19/2018 - 10:30am This would make a little…

This would make a little sense if Hernandez was playing for a rival team.

09/18/2018 - 5:03pm Not only would you have to…

Not only would you have to call them employees, but you would have to look at why the court ruled as it did.

I don't think I'm going out on a limb in saying it was individual coaches were entitled to be paid their market value. There was no formula based on the sport and the revenue it generates. Surely that would apply to other employees as well. How could you justify paying all football players the same?

09/18/2018 - 4:30pm What % of those big bucks…

What % of those big bucks end up outside athletic departments? A lot of schools have ADs that already run deficits. 

The finances of college athletics are complicated. As SpaceCoyote mentioned, their greatest value to most schools is advertising. That value is hard to quantify. There are a few well known examples where success on the football field  or the basketball court led to sizable increases in applications. But MSU just took in a record freshman class in the teeth of terrible publicity. Look at who Michigan competes with for students and where they come from. Does football make any difference to them? I'd argue it doesn't matter much to schools with well established, highly ranked academics.

Another area that's complicated is donations. Having successful athletics programs brings more donations. Wisconsin's planning a big stadium upgrade that will largely be paid by donations. But how much of that money might have ended up elsewhere at the university without football? How much does football spur donations to other parts of the school? A lot of schools are afraid to find out, since the status quo is not bad. Push major changes on them and some may change their mind.

I wonder if the recent scandals in the Big Ten had some influence on the statement from Wisconsin. It wasn't just the scandals, but the deference shown to athletics that's brought a lot of the negative attention. How many administrators want to be in that kind of situation? 

 

09/18/2018 - 12:38am So tired of these pointless…

So tired of these pointless posts.

09/18/2018 - 12:36am Not sure what you're looking…

Not sure what you're looking at.

Michigan is at 19%. Bama is at 50%.

09/17/2018 - 6:51pm Biff Poggi, who rarely posts…

Biff Poggi, who rarely posts, ripped the dad on Twitter, without naming him. He tagged Wilton, who liked his tweet. I wonder what their QB meeting room is like.

09/17/2018 - 12:26pm Because Michigan isn't a…

Because Michigan isn't a farm team for the NFL?

09/13/2018 - 9:51am Some of those recruits are…

Some of those recruits are redundant. We're not looking to take Ford and Ellis, the Baylor commit. It's notable that Ellis said he'll be committing (this time for real) on Jan 5. We're not looking to take two more OTs. There's also the possibility of attrition from the recruiting class, not just the roster.

 

09/13/2018 - 9:44am Unless I missed something,…

Unless I missed something, he never claimed to actually know anything. He was just a typical gloomy Gus who seeing that it was between Michigan and Bama, said that Michigan had no chance. Another poster sarcastically brought up his talking to Hill.

09/12/2018 - 8:57pm Over the past two years?

He…

Over the past two years?

He's two games into his second season and has ten catches and a QB who can throw a deep ball. I'm not writing off this season's offense already.

09/11/2018 - 2:13pm Forget that example. How…

Forget that example. How about Ruiz, Onwenu and Bredeson? That's just on the OL. Look up and down the roster and there are many other examples of players who started over older teammates.

 

09/11/2018 - 1:53pm You realize Engler was a two…

You realize Engler was a two term governor?

I'm not sure how we avoid having a crappy board like MSU has, but political appointments doesn't sound like an ideal solution.

09/11/2018 - 11:03am They did a good job removing…

They did a good job removing some padded numbers. OSU was an obvious example of that. 

09/11/2018 - 8:57am Michigan was pass first…

Michigan was pass first under RR?

09/09/2018 - 10:14am and David Long

and David Long

08/31/2018 - 3:13pm The report said he did lie…

The report said he did lie. They were being extraordinarily generous is saying that they didn't think he lied deliberately, but even they called out his lies.

They might have also called him out for lying in his first explanation for why he lied at media days, that he wasn't prepared for the questions about the 2015 incident. The text messages showed he'd been coached on what to say by Gene Smith and that he told someone else he was going to deny knowing anything. He fully expected the questions he was asked.

08/29/2018 - 8:50am It's as stupidly accurate as…

It's as stupidly accurate as is stupidly claiming true freshmen won't contribute before their first game.

Honestly, does it get any dumber on this board than people thinking walkons on the depth chart means the coaches have failed? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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08/28/2018 - 2:57pm Higdon was 3rd string at the…

Higdon was 3rd string at the beginning of last season. 

08/28/2018 - 12:39pm We can thank Wisconsin for…

We can thank Wisconsin for not fielding a varsity baseball team.

08/27/2018 - 11:29am Indiana just lost a grad…

Indiana just lost a grad transfer QB today. It's pretty close to the deadline for them to transfer again, bu not past it. It shouldn't be hard to find a team where playing time will be easier to find. If Hughes was a WR with a similar background, we'd take him. That's assuming he could still get admitted, far more likely at many other schools that at Michigan. 

08/27/2018 - 7:17am That's probably true, but…

That's probably true, but there's zero reason to factor it in to any decision to play him late in the season. 

08/27/2018 - 1:18am The new redshirt rule means…

The new redshirt rule means he could play 4 games or less at the end of the season and still qualify for a redshirt.

08/25/2018 - 8:36pm Moreso than other teams…

Moreso than other teams because we pay far less attention to other teams.

08/25/2018 - 8:35pm Some of those 4*s were much…

Some of those 4*s were much lower when Harbaugh started recruiting them. The whole point of the post you responded to was basically that, he was predicting his rating to rise. Somehow you managed to ignore that.

08/25/2018 - 10:15am Are you assuming that…

Are you assuming that issuing another statement was Meyer's idea?

I assume it was pushed on him by OSU's media relations people. I doubt he's reading all the negative press he's gotten. Not just because of these circumstances, but as a matter of routine. That's a constant distraction.

08/24/2018 - 10:17pm isn't that basically why he…

isn't that basically why he got into this trouble? He won't accept criticism and won't make tough decisions. He just puts them off until it's a big mess.

08/24/2018 - 9:17pm Meyer knows a little about…

Meyer knows a little about wives who have to deal with a philandering husband.

08/24/2018 - 9:12pm There are kids wondering how…

There are kids wondering how long Meyer will stick around and rightly so.

Commits can be expected to defend their choice. OSU is more likely to lose some potential commits.

08/24/2018 - 8:29pm I'm not going to start…

I'm not going to start another thread, but OSU lost a commit tonight. A 4* LB from TN who committed last month, Kane Patterson.

08/24/2018 - 6:49pm But now he really means it.

But now he really means it.

Until it comes up again. Then it'll be only fair to look at the circumstances and decide on a case by case basis.

 

08/24/2018 - 6:37pm I'm going to say both.

I…

I'm going to say both.

I doubt they even trust Meyer to read it out loud. If Meyer had the capacity to come up with that statement, he wouldn't be in a situation where he needed to make it.

08/24/2018 - 5:08pm The lawyer says Durkin hired…

The lawyer says Durkin hired him, not Anderson. More egg on UMD's face.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/terps/tracking-the-terps/bs-sp-jackson-anderson-durkin-maryland-0824-story.html

08/24/2018 - 2:45pm It wasn't a criminal case…

It wasn't a criminal case. This was a university investigation that led to one of the players getting expelled. NCAA rules permit the school to pay for legal counsel in such cases. The only improprieties alleged are the AD not following the school's procedure. The AD is long gone.

There's really nothing to see here unless you're concerned about a little internal strife at UMD.

08/24/2018 - 1:57pm There were no impermissible…

There were no impermissible benefits here. Schools are allowed to pay lawyers for athletes for hearings that could endanger their eligibility.

This is all some internal Maryland beef. The AD was accused of not following their rules for choosing counsel. Others are disputing that he did and that's basically it. It's exposing dysfunction at Maryland, but it hardly strikes me as any kind of a scandal.

 

08/24/2018 - 12:50pm Evans was the person who…

Evans was the person who flagged the payment and got the investigation started.

08/24/2018 - 12:25pm Clever signs about Urban…

Clever signs about Urban Meyer would be fun. But the best statement would be something simple and to the point like "OSU has no shame". 

08/24/2018 - 12:03pm The SEC wishes their only…

The SEC wishes their only issue was bagmen.

One of their star players is Jeffrey Simmons. Just this week one of Butch Jones' former players made serious charges against him while at Tennessee.  Also this week, a TX A&M player accused the coaches of cheating and having trainers mistreat his injury.

There's always more, but they must be glad the Big Ten is taking the spotlight. Honestly if this Urban Meyer scandal was taking place at a school like Arkansas, without a very high profile coach, we'd hardly be paying attention.

08/24/2018 - 9:30am It was an OSU phone and he…

It was an OSU phone and he was forced to turn it over when he was put on leave.

It's a huge hole in their investigation and they will eventually have to address it. My free advice to OSU is that it will be less messy if they do it while Meyer is suspended.

08/24/2018 - 9:25am The lawyer is an idiot, but…

The lawyer is an idiot, but there is an element of truth in what he said.

Meyer was obviously far more to blame for this scandal yet they got equivalent punishments. In his mind, Gene Smith did fall on his sword. From what has been leaked about the board discussions, Smith and Meyer were both close to getting off scot-free. Who knows how it would have turned out if they had refused to accept suspensions?

Outside of the OSU bubble, what he said is ridiculous. But within it, it makes some sense. He's an idiot not to realize how his comments would be received outside of Columbus. Just shows how insulated they are down there.

 

08/24/2018 - 8:41am The normal way to keep your…

The normal way to keep your former assistant coaches quiet is simple. Promise to help them get another job, at least vouch for them. When the alternative is getting blackballed, that's a powerful incentive not to roll over on your former coach or program. 

I'd bet there are people in Zach Smith's ear telling him just that. Once this all blows over, he'll get another coaching job. As ridiculous as it may sound, they only need him to buy into it. "coach" is still in his twitter handle. Of course, there is a real risk that ZS will fall on hard times and taking money for a tell all will be tempting. 

It would be insane for Meyer to pay ZS. It would come out in his child support hearings.

08/24/2018 - 7:00am After that disaster of a…

After that disaster of a press conference, even a friendly interview. could be problematic for Meyer. Whatever he says would get picked apart by the rest of the media. I feel that's a strategy tried much more often than it's effective.

One problem for OSU is that head coaches can't avoid the media. They could shield almost anyone else.

 

08/24/2018 - 1:49am And Zach Smith is trashing…

And Zach Smith is trashing the investigators.

https://twitter.com/CoachZachSmith/status/1032815834832547843

I expected the media to keep bashing OSU. I wasn't expecting people on the OSU side to be egging them on already. We knew ZS is an idiot, but the lawyer's statement is even more tone deaf. It's time for Urban to speak out and defend himself. Who knows what he'd say if he wasn't reading off a piece of paper someone wrote for him.

08/23/2018 - 6:06pm He's been mentioned several…

He's been mentioned several times. But not as someone battling for a starting job, rather along with the rest of the OL who provide depth.