OT: US women's sprinter spurns runoff, concedes spot on team

Submitted by GRBluefan on

Some of you may know that at the recent Olympic trials there was a dead-heat for 3rd place in the women's 100M dash (with the top three qualifying for the Olympics).  It was so close that there was literally no way to tell who finished third.

The solution that was reached seems very logical, especially when compared to the good old fashioned coin flip that had been proposed.  They were going to hold a run-off this afternoon, with the winner getting the spot.  Nothing wrong with that...to the victor goes the spoils and all that.

 

Apparantly one of the participants did not feel that way, however, and has decided that rather than participate she is just going to concede.  Seems that she feels she was 'robbed' and that she already earned the spot, despite all evidence to the contrary.  The leg on which she stands is that the race originally listed her as the third place finisher before the photo finish was reviewed.

 

I hate to judge people, but this seems completely ridiculous to me.  How can you feel robbed when the conclusive evidence shows that you clearly were not?  How can you think that you are entitled to the spot when there is another runner who is equally as entitled?  And, most importantly, how can you just decide to quit and give up on what is likely a lifelong dream instead of going out there and actually trying to earn that spot?

 

I will stop here and get the thoughts of the mgo community before I accidentally enter full-on rant mode.

 

http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/trackandfield/story/_/id/8123148/2012-olympics-jeneba-tarmoh-not-doing-runoff-vs-allyson-felix-100-meter-spot

samsoccer7

July 2nd, 2012 at 4:38 PM ^

I agree this seems very childish to me. I can understand her frustration being named the third place finisher, doing a victory lap, celebrating, etc. she also found out via reporters which was probably very uncomfortable and awkward. That said, how can she argue with the finish? She was tied for third. Just run the race again and figure it out. Apparently she is "overwhelmed" by emotions and doesn't think it's fair. Well, life's not always fair. Run it and beat Felix and prove it. I have some sympathy for her, but I'd have more if age would just race for the tiebreaker. This is so silly.

swan flu

July 2nd, 2012 at 4:42 PM ^

Reminds me of a spoiled child spurning a fair compromise after not getting her way completely.  Like she wants to get a reaction from people.

 

I think the appropriate response is apathy towards her.

State Street

July 2nd, 2012 at 4:47 PM ^

A) How bad does NBC Sports hate this runner right now?

B) She obviously is preparing legal action over this fiasco.  If she wasn't, and wasn't confident in her ability to win the run off, why not take the coin flip and take the 50-50 shot?

Methinks she intends to take somebody - anybody - to court for this.

MileHighAnnArborite

July 2nd, 2012 at 6:33 PM ^

Doesn't have the option for the coin flip -- if one of the two wants to run, they have to run.  I think you may be right, though -- added to that is the fact that she got her PR in that first race, and Allyson Felix can and has run faster.  I think she realizes her odds of winning are pretty low, so why not make a big deal of it and save it for a fight later.  Still, giving up doesn't seem like a good way to help you say you should have won.

ballertim87

July 2nd, 2012 at 4:52 PM ^

Her childishness and stubbornness really seems to be aimed at the other woman who will be awarded the third spot.  She is causing the third-place winner to not feel good about the way she won--to not feel like a "winner" at all... hopefully she just ignores it and moves on... and hopefully the cry-baby realizes her immaturity for the situation and grows from this self-knowledge.

On a side note-- This situation makes me think about NFL & NCAA video reviews which, if applied to this situation, would still award her third place because the finish-line replay evidence is "inconclusive," not overturnable.

unWavering

July 2nd, 2012 at 4:55 PM ^

I don't want her competing in the Olympics for my country if that is the way she handled the situation, so it looks like it all worked out in the end.

French West Indian

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 PM ^

As with many things, we rarely know the full story.  If I were in her shoes, I'm not really sure what I would do because...er...well, I'm not in her shoes.  Or something like that.

ImSoBlue

July 2nd, 2012 at 4:58 PM ^

She is either letting her emotions get in the way or afraid of failure.

I much rather have an athelete who will not conceed anything and who puts it first on the field representing the good old USA.

 

Erik_in_Dayton

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:07 PM ^

Both runners still have to compete in the 200 m.  Tarmoh may feel that she'd be better off preparing for the 200 without having to adjust her training to accomodate the unexpected 100 m race.  A lot of very careful preparation goes into sprinting at that high a level, so it's no small thing to throw a race into your training regimen.  Also, she's the lesser accomplished of the two, and she may feel like she's already taken her best shot to make the team for the 100...I admit that this is a "best case scenario" way of looking at the situation, and it does seem like she just can't get over the fact that she thought she'd made it only to see that proven untrue. 

EDIT:  Bobby Kersee, coach for both runners, pushed hard for the tie-breaker not to be run until after the 200 m final. 

http://www.nbcolympics.com/news-blogs/blog=the-rundown/post/jeneba-tarmoh-concedes-100m-spot-to-allyson-felix.html

FGB

July 2nd, 2012 at 11:33 PM ^

For the record, the 200 is over, it was on Saturday.  The whole meet is over. 

But the first point still is valid, they both have regulated training regimen and to just drop a competitive 100 in the middle of their schedules (or when they're supposed to be resting) is not ideal.

However, I tend to think it's mostly to your second point. She gave it her best shot, she got a great start and Felix got a bad one in the first 100 final, she does not have the experience that Felix has to keep doing all these races, and she probably would've lost by a significant margin in a head to head. 

wile_e8

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:11 PM ^

FWIW Tim Layden at Sports Illustrated had an interesting article this weekend that went into depth on how the times in the race were determined.

Link here

I think the article is worth reading because it certainly makes the issue seem a lot more complicated than some of the posters here seem to be doing while judging Tarmoh. For instance, if the time is supposed to be when the runner's torso crosses the line, where exactly does the torso start? When races are measured down to the millisecond, finding the start of the torso down to the fraction of an inch matters. Also, the initial timer measured Tarmoh ahead of Felix by one millisecond, which is why she was originally listed as 3rd place. Why did they make the decision to change the time?

I don't know if Tarmoh is definitely right. After all, where *exactly* does the torso start? But after seeing a few "It was a tie a runoff is fair what a baby" posts, I just felt the need to point out that she might actually have a case here. The first timer did measure her ahead, and if the offiicials didn't have good reason to change it, she might have a reason for appeal. But her grounds for appeal would be weakened if she agreed to this race. So I don't thinks she's being irrational for holding off.

Erik_in_Dayton

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:20 PM ^

It's not quite so simple as to say that the winner of the run-off would be the better runner.  The training that goes into these races is immense, and the athletes work very hard to be in peak shape at a very specific time.  The fact that one of them may, say, recover faster than the other is not necessarily proof that she's the better sprinter. 

Erik_in_Dayton

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 PM ^

I can imagine myself not doing it, though, if I thought that I had a better chance of making it to the Olympics by keeping my schedule for the 200 m than I did by interrupting my schedule to run the 100 m tie-breaker.  As I said above, though, that's a "best case" version of what her decision-making seems to be based on. 

MI Expat NY

July 2nd, 2012 at 6:07 PM ^

It sounds to me that the official initially judged it the way he normally does but wasn't sure he should advance someone to the olympics when he's interpolating the point at which the torso crossed the line.  I can see both sides of the argument.  

I also agree that commenters on here aren't considering everything.  This isn't some backyard race where the winner is first one to touch the tree and a do-over in case of a tie is perfectly reasonable.  There are a lot of things that could happen in one more race, not the least of which is an injury, which would be bad for either runner, Felix loses her shot at gold in the 200 and Tarmoh loses any shot at competing in the Olympics.  

Luckily, in all likelihood both will compete in the Olympics.  Felix will at least have the 200, and if Tarmoh doesn't win an appeal, she's still almost assured to run in the 4x100 relay, even if it's just in the prelims.

antidaily

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:14 PM ^

I don't know. I'd give them both spots if possible. You prepare for months for one race and then you have to run another? What if you start poorly the second time or you react differently to only running against one person. A lot could go wrong. I don't think she's automatically a spoiled whiner for questioning the runoff. 

That said, I would do the runoff.

BlockM

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:16 PM ^

Not directed at anyone specifically, but just a note: If you're saying she's childish for saying they originally said she won, then took it back later, etc. and are one of the folks who still claim Fitz's TD in the OSU game should have counted, you're contradicting yourself.

Figured I'd try to tie this in to Michigan sports somehow.

BlockM

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:27 PM ^

True, I was just referring to that specific reason, and the fact that some folks are saying the "They told me I won, then changed their minds without irrefutable proof" is childish, while some of them probably go around saying, "We actually won by more, but they took away our touchdown without irrefutable evidence."

m1817

July 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 PM ^

What's lost in this controversy is that neither one of them won the race.  They both finished well behind the runner-up.  In this case, third place isn't much to brag about when you finish that far behind.

In reply to by French West Indian

Erik_in_Dayton

July 2nd, 2012 at 6:14 PM ^

IIRC, finishing first, second, or third doesn't matter once you get to the Olympics.  The difference between third and fourth, though, is the difference between knowing that you'll complete in the Olympics and being an alternate.  That's a much bigger difference to me.