Uh-oh. #27 is taken??
There seems to be a slight problem in the Michigan roster.
Derrick Green wore #27 in high school and cites Eddie George (who also wore #27) as his favorite player. When Green committed, he had a #27 jersey on the wall behind the projector screen.
Slight problem: walk-on wide receiver Jonathan Keizer has a claim to #27, according to mgoblue.com.
So, what number does Derrick Green wear? I hope this doesn't become a big problem. We were able to get Pipkins to wear #56 like he wanted. Hopefully we can do the same here.
Any thoughts?
UPDATE!:
After doing some research, I've found that you can have duplicate numbers on a roster, but not on the same side of the ball. This is why #27 LB Mike Jones (who is a scholarship athlete) would not have to forfeit his number and is irrelevant to this discussion.
If you look at Michigan's roster, there are no duplicate numbers on offense. There is no evidence to suggest that, as some posited, two players can have the same numbers on offense as long as one stays off the field. I don't where you guys found that rule, but I'd be curious to see it.
I also found that, despite Hoke's statement that he treats all the players equally ("our 115 sons"), scholarship athletes always get preference to walk-ons. The most likely scenario here is that Keizer would be reassigned a number and Green would wear #27.
I had hoped that this thread would become a discussion about what numbers Green could possibly wear instead of #27 in the event that Hoke decides to let Keizer keep the number (a definite possibility, and don't be surprised if you see it happen).
Instead, this largely became a ridiculing of the original post's premise, whether or not player numbers need to be discussed on the board, and the implication that Green might transfer if not granted #27 (which is fine, mea culpa on that last one).
February 16th, 2013 at 10:30 PM ^
Really, this is worthy of a board topic? Pretty sure Green will talk to Keizer about it, and pretty sure Keizer will let Green have the number for the appropriate number of Chipotle burritos.
February 16th, 2013 at 11:03 PM ^
Yeah, this is certainly less relevant than the topic where some guy announced he was retiring at age 35.
February 17th, 2013 at 12:03 AM ^
February 17th, 2013 at 12:33 AM ^
February 17th, 2013 at 12:38 AM ^
You're absolutely right. This is more relevant than a lot of other threads on the board right now. However, if I was to create a thread about how I drove past the big house today, it also would be technically "more relevant" than the 35 y.o. retiree. Relevancy does not necessarily constitute board worthiness.
This is something that happens all the time (pros, college and even high school), and isn't a big deal (for the team, for the blog, and/or for Derrick). Either Derrick will move on to a new number, he and Keizer will make a deal, they'll share the number or the walk on will be forced to give it up if Green is a baby about it. If you're still concerned about it, Green's already signed is LOI, so he's locked in, and if a jersey number is enough for him to want to transfer, do you really someone so thickheaded like that on the team anyways. Quit worrying and think before creating a thread next time (the tribe's clearly spoken that this was best left unposted).
February 16th, 2013 at 11:11 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:30 PM ^
Slow news day, isn't it?
February 16th, 2013 at 10:59 PM ^
Half of me is still laughing about the "advice for torn ACL" thread. The other half hopes he ignored all of the advice except for those who told him to get advice from a doctor.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:31 PM ^
It's only a problem if they both are on the field at the same time. There are plenty of repeat numbers when you include walk-ons. Unless Keizer is the next Jordan Kovacs, it's a non-issue.
February 17th, 2013 at 4:33 PM ^
Wasn't a problem for Notre Dame against Pitt last year on Pitt's missed game-winning FG attempt.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:32 PM ^
Or just let Green have it.
February 17th, 2013 at 11:42 AM ^
I think they should fight to the death for it in the arena called the Big House in front of all michigan players past and present, with Hoke deciding the fate of the loser.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:32 PM ^
Hmmm 5 star RB or walk on receiver getting #27. I think they'll get it worked out somehow.
February 17th, 2013 at 8:22 AM ^
I don't like the idea of Green getting the number because of his recruiting credentials. Once he is a member of 134, they are all equals. Except he's a freshman, and Keizer is a RS Soph. I think seniority should rule here, and I would hope the coaches and players would agree.
February 17th, 2013 at 8:50 AM ^
Yeah, and everybody should get to play too, well, except the freshmen. Equality is what should rule always, well except for seniority.
February 17th, 2013 at 9:35 AM ^
February 17th, 2013 at 3:24 PM ^
So I'll just leave a reply saying "you're awesome"
February 16th, 2013 at 10:33 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:33 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:35 PM ^
To be fair, George is the one who first told Green to consider Michigan. And Eddie George's top two schools coming out of high school were M and OSU.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:49 PM ^
But what does Hoke say and who is this Hole person?
February 16th, 2013 at 11:23 PM ^
Holes!
February 16th, 2013 at 11:54 PM ^
February 17th, 2013 at 12:12 AM ^
February 17th, 2013 at 7:03 AM ^
Just spewed coffee on my keyboard, laughing at this! ^^^
Can we get a clean-up here?!
February 16th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^
I'm guessing that "we" won't be consulted.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:34 PM ^
Why don't we also freak out about Devin Gardner wearing 12 as a QB, and that being Shane's number in high school?
I think this matter much more to fans and OP than it does Green.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:36 PM ^
Morris grew up an M fan. Seriously doubt him getting upset enough over a number to transfer.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:40 PM ^
Are you seriously implying that D Green might get so upset that 27 is taken that he will transfer? That's a joke right? Seriously, that's the most ridiculous thing that's ever been posted on MGoBlog - and that's saying something. Regardless, if it's a big enough issue, I'm sure the walk on will give up the number.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:42 PM ^
It's half-serious. Green wears #27 everywhere (high school, Army Bowl, commitment announcement) that you'd think he might be a little upset over this.
Of course you guys could all be right and the coaches will just say screw the walk-on here you go Green.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:53 PM ^
I really don't think the coaches would say "fuck off this guy wants 27." Like someone else said, Green will probably ask to whoever has it about it and this thread will turn into a non-issue really really fast.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:55 PM ^
Here's the thing you don't get: More than one player on a team can have the same number. PROBLEM SOLVED.
February 16th, 2013 at 11:17 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 11:27 PM ^
two players with the same # can't be on the field at the same time.
You can't define an 'offensive' or 'defensive' player as some guys take snaps on both sides of the ball, guys switch positions - OL to DL, things like that.
February 17th, 2013 at 12:16 AM ^
You're right - and the way teams go about handling it is to assign repeated numbers to players who typically play on different sides of the ball. I thought I remembered reading a rule about it years ago. Should have checked first.
February 17th, 2013 at 7:18 AM ^
that you can't have two players with the same # on the field at the same time. Unless you have the "luck" of the Irish, that is:
http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=A0oG7hwQyCBRoEYAS1VXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1NW…
Notre Dame’s “Desperado” Brain cramp. The Irish’s game-saving break on Kevin Harper’s missed 33-yard field goal could’ve been erased because of a special teams snafu, with both Bennett Jackson and Chris Brown being a part of the Irish’s kick block team. Since both players wear the number two, they aren’t allowed to be on the field at the same time unless one of them switches jerseys and declares himself to the refs. But that didn’t happen, and while the refs didn’t spot it, it could’ve been called for a penalty, a situation that already happened when Danny McCarthy and Justin Ferguson both wore No. 15.
Kelly didn’t sugarcoat the mistake when he discussed it Sunday.
“It was a coaching mistake. We had put our Desperado team on there, and Chris Brown is part of Desperado,” Kelly explained. “Just we’ve got to do a better job. An oversight that can’t happen.”
February 17th, 2013 at 8:07 AM ^
but OP, you're clearly not very bright, at least not today.
February 17th, 2013 at 8:23 AM ^
He definitely did not say that. You definitely put those words in his mouth.
February 16th, 2013 at 10:49 PM ^
FWIW, Shane has said he doesn't want to wear #12 in college. He tweeted the other day that he sent in his potential number requests: 7, 10, and 2.
February 16th, 2013 at 11:07 PM ^
Both 7 (Leach, Henne) and 10 (Brady, Collins) would look good. I think 2 is reserved for a DB.
February 17th, 2013 at 12:07 AM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:36 PM ^
Walk-ons share numbers with scholarship guys all the time. They just can't be on the field at the same time (and probably won't).
February 16th, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:37 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:41 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 10:59 PM ^
Then*
February 16th, 2013 at 11:08 PM ^
February 16th, 2013 at 11:12 PM ^
Oops. Technically both make sense?
ok
February 17th, 2013 at 12:20 AM ^