April 1st, 2018 at 6:07 PM ^

I don't know why them being eliminated reduces your caring for their opinions.

I for one appreciate the range of opinions - it's clear there are rational elements of their fanbase, and those that appreciate the way in which Beilein has built the program. I hope we would feel the same way about a clean, hard working OSU basketball program.

It is also interesting to hear how divergent the opinions are between basketball and football. I suspect our fanbse would draw similar distinctions between the two sports


April 2nd, 2018 at 1:03 AM ^

Yet he replaced the disgraced and sanctioned O'Brien.  Matta was supposed to be the Beilein for osu after the academic scandal and TAs doing player's work.


Tattgate overshadows it, but nobody ever remembers osu pre-Matta unless you're talking Fab Five era Jimmy Jackson.

Mr. Owl

April 1st, 2018 at 7:08 PM ^

Agreed.  But I wouldn't be to the point of Ohio State fanz going to a hypothetical situation of rooting for Bin Laden over their team.  (Says a lot about them.)  As for the game itself,  I wouldn't bother watching.

Thankfully I have an excellent reason for viewing some basketball on Monday night.  Go Blue!

snarling wolverine

April 1st, 2018 at 5:37 PM ^

I wouldn't buy gear of the opponent (that's taking it too far), but I'd pull for them over OSU or Sparty.  

IU with Crean would have been tough.   PSU as well.  (Chambers seems like a perfectly fine guy but I can't wish the Joebot fans a national title.)

I think I'd root for the rest of the Big Ten.  




April 1st, 2018 at 5:24 PM ^

One guy commented on Beilein doing things clean and then described them as “Michigan’s version of the Tressel teams”

I think that’s an oxymoron


April 1st, 2018 at 5:45 PM ^

I have always been amazed how OSU fans still consider him clean considering he got a show-cause penalty for his infractions when he left. I get you can argue the severity of some of these transgressions, but like, dude got fired for letting a lot of NCAA violations knowingly occur, then lied about it.

Perkis-Size Me

April 1st, 2018 at 5:53 PM ^

When you win, you’re going to get the benefit of the doubt every single time. Unless you engaged in some Baylor/PSU level shit, everyone will look past your flaws, especially when you win big and consistently beat your biggest rival.

If Cooper was the one wrapped up in that scandal, given his 2-10-1 record against Michigan, his ass would’ve been run out of Columbus and never would’ve been invited back.

I also think too that given how awful some situations have been at other schools since OSU’s Tat-Gate, Tressel’s transgressions are minuscule by comparison.


April 2nd, 2018 at 8:13 AM ^


I get you can argue the severity of some of these transgressions, but like, dude got fired for letting a lot of NCAA violations knowingly occur, then lied about it.


Dude got hired with a cloud of NCAA violations hanging over his head. Now OSU didn't know they were hiring the Michigan giant-killer when they brought Tressel on, but once things started cranking, ethics and above-board operating became less and less important.  The fact that OSU turned to another ethically questionable coach in Meyer further illustrates the point that Michigan and OSU are not operating from the same moral core when it comes to athletic competition.  OSU wants to win, at any cost, period.


April 2nd, 2018 at 2:45 PM ^

You might want to reflect on the ethical conduct of OSU v. UM institutions:

Worst recent scandal at OSU:  players trade things they own for tats, football coach learns about it and fails to report it, then lies to NCAA about it.  The athletic department learns that the coach knew about the tats, and reports the violation to the NCAA.

Worst recent scandal at UM:  kicker rapes a women while he is a freshman, and OL threatens her.  Everybody at UM -- all the way up to the Board of Trustees -- knows about it for years, and does nothing.  The OL is eventually named a team captain.  The kicker is not kicked off the team team until the end of his senior year.


April 1st, 2018 at 5:28 PM ^

For all the obvious reasons, but also because the narrative from rival fans would definitely play up the fact that we had the easiest path the championship game in history.

Beating such a great team like Nova and winning a title as the first big ten team in nearly 20 years would be amazing.