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11/05/2018 - 12:31pm I've seen comments about…

I've seen comments about wanting OSU to win out to enhance the quality of our (inevitable) win over the Bucknuts. I can't see where that is at all necessary if we run the table and win the B1G. 12-1 definitely gets us into the playoff.

Probably not, but with Northwestern looking like the overwhelming favorite to come out of the West, possibly at 7-5, I could definitely see a lot of discussion from the powers that be of a 1 loss OU getting in over them.  Or the worst case scenario for Michigan which is a 1 loss Georgia team beating undefeated Bama in the SEC title game.

06/23/2018 - 1:07pm Yeah but he was a good band…

Yeah but he was a good band mate to Scottie Pippen

04/01/2018 - 5:27pm Nah I get it

I wasn’t exactly aggressively rooting against OSU when they were in the title game but in no way was I rooting for them.

03/01/2018 - 5:44pm Their Fans...

Their fans...don't seem to think that:…

11/21/2017 - 12:20pm This really helps explain some of the frustration...

This explains some of the frustration of this season.  Was Michigan really young? Yes.  Is a 3-4 loss season understandable given the circumstances? Yes.  

But I'm just sick of year in and year out losing to our rivals and never really surprising anyone by winning games as an underdog.  Yes you are expected to lose when you are an underdog, but 1-18 is terrible. 

11/13/2017 - 4:47pm So all UM needs to do to be alive next week

All UM needs to do to be alive for the last weekend of games is beat Wisconsin right?

11/13/2017 - 1:35pm When is the last time

When is the last time Michigan went into a game as a decided underdog against a top team and won?

It seems like its been years since we've had a win like the Iowa win over OSU a couple weeks ago.  We've had big wins in recent years but we've been on equal footing or better going into the games against Colorado, Wisconsin and PSU last year.  This is a great chance to get one of those types of wins.

03/20/2017 - 9:55am Before the tourney

There were sources that stated that both were coming back, but damn Mo put on an NBA mix-tape on Sunday.  Look at his highlight video, he showed the ability to score in like 7-8 different ways.  That has to have NBA scouts drooling.  I have a feeling his stock is rising.


I think Wilson will definitely be back, but Mo at this point is 70-30 on returning.  I think he wants to stay.  Remember he went out of his way to choose the American college experience over going pro in Germany, and the kid looks like he's having a ton of fun out there.  Unlike most American prospects, he isn't looking at college as a short stepping stone to the NBA.  Hopefully he still has that mentality after the season because while I think he has what it takes, I do think he still has areas that he can improve and would still be a project for NBA teams.  One more year at UM should make him into a lottery pick.

03/18/2017 - 9:31am Sunday is also 3 of the 4

Sunday is also 3 of the 4 teams that played in Indy for S16/E8 in 2014 (UM, Kentucky, Louisville) only Tennessee is missing

11/30/2016 - 10:25am How do the resumes compare if

How do the resumes compare if Washington wins this weekend but Clemson loses


Clemson 11-2

Key wins over: @ #12 Florida State, vs. #13 Louisville, @ #14 Auburn (none are playing this weekend)

Losses to: vs. #25 Pitt, N vs. #23 Va Tech (probably shoots up into the upper teens with a win)


Michigan 10-2

Key wins over: vs. #6 Wisconsin, vs. #7 Penn State, vs. #8 Colorado  (in this scenario all 3 play this weekend and 2 of them lose so 2 teams will drop)

Losses to: @ UR Iowa, @ #2 Ohio State

Advantages for Clemson - No unranked losses, made conference title game, 2 of their 3 best wins were on the road, 1 more win than Michigan

Disadvantages for Clemson - Lost home game, their 3 wins will probably still be lower than at least 2 of the 3 best michigan wins if not all of them

Advantages for Michigan - 3 top 15ish wins, no home losses, 1 loss was in 2 OT on road against #2 team

Disadvantages for Michigan - 2 of their 3 best wins lost the day before CFP selection, no good road wins, loss over unranked team, did not win division/play in title game


I think Clemson still gets in over UM at least if they lose this weekend. 

11/28/2016 - 4:21pm Well for one

Well for one, it takes away a lot of the subjective selection of worthy teams.  You win your conference, you play for the championship.  Every NA sport places heavy emphasis on winning your division/conference/league.  Those teams all get into the playoffs of their respective sport.

And yes I think that giving auto bids to conference champions will make it less likely that the best 8 teams are selected but that's fine, if you are the best team you will win your conference and no one will cry about how unfair it is that their team didn't make the playoffs because if you win the conference then you are in, if you don't you run the risk of not being one of the 2 teams selected as at-large bids.

The one issue with my proposal that I can't reconcile is the effects that it has on non-conference scheduling.  My guess is that power 5 teams would stop playing each other because there's only a small benefit to doing so (IF you win and IF you fail to win your conference your odds of getting at-large improve with a good non-conference win).

11/28/2016 - 1:27pm Here's how 8 team works

I get the need for extra drama and do or dieness of a 4 team playoff.  But I think there are too many chances to screw one team over another based on certain criteria that can change each year with 4 teams. 

With an 8 team playoff, I would propose this would be the teams selected:

1. Big Ten Champion

2. SEC Champion

3. ACC Champion

4. Pac 12 Champion

5. Big 12 Champion

6. Highest ranked Group of 5 Champion

7. At-Large 1

8. At-Large 2

This makes it so that winning a conference title is of vital importance still as there are only 2 At-Larges.  It gives the Group of 5 champion a legitimate championship opportunity when currently there is virtually none.  And it gives the best 2 teams that didn't win their conference a shot. 

So how would this work out this year?  Lets pick the favorites in the conference title games and "rank them" based on current rankings

1. Alabama

2. Clemson

3. Wisconsin

4. Washington

5. Oklahoma

6. Western Michigan

OK now for the At-Larges.  This would come down to the following teams:  Ohio State, Michigan, Colorado, Penn State, USC, West Virgina

I think its a fair system that still places a ton of importance on regular season.  USC is said to be playing better than any other team right now, but guess what they started out slow and are a long shot.  West Virgina only has 2 losses but their SOS keeps them out of the conversation.  Colorado and Penn State might have shots with a close loss against their conference title opponents, but they both lost to Michigan in the regular season which kills their argument of getting in.  

And as for The Game, it would still have had critical importance for both teams (though admittedly slightly less).  Both teams were playing for a conference title and auto bid to the playoff.  Also Ohio becomes an at large lock with a win even if Penn State won.  Michigan likely becomes an at-large lock with a win even if they lose the Big Ten title game.


11/28/2016 - 12:55pm Good breakdown

Minor nitpick but I don't see the Rose Bowl wanting a Colorado vs. Michigan rematch.  Not sure which team would get the boot, but there are likely more Big Ten teams with deserving Rose Bowl quality resumes than Pac 12 teams so guessing Michigan would go to Orange bowl.

11/28/2016 - 12:26pm Yes my ire

My ire toward this game has shifted from "he was short" (still think he was) to "OSU got basically every call that could have gone either way". 

03/16/2016 - 3:12pm No but...

It will get you killed when competing with NBA factories for elite prospects.  People gripe that Beilein needs to recruit better, but this fact holds him back.  And I don't want Michigan to necessarily be an NBA factory, but it would be nice to have at least one guy that you could hold up as a poster child for what a 2-3 year run under Beilein can do for your future.

I mean we recently had 5 players drafted, 4 of them in the first round, 2 of them in the lottery and none of them have become players of consequence in the NBA, and none of them are really showing flashes of becoming one in the future. 

03/16/2016 - 2:53pm I think Beilein

I think a big knock against Beilein is that of those 5 NBA players on that team,  Burke is a backup PG on a mediocre team, Hardaway, Robinson and McGary have been bouncing around between the back of an NBA bench and the NBDL.  Robinson and McGary have barely played - Robinson couldn't get burn on a 76ers team completely devoid of talent and patient enough to let players work out their kinks.  Speaking of Philly, Stauskas has gotten playing time in Philly but hasn't done much with it.  Pretty much any other team in the league would have him at the end of their bench at this point.  Of the 5, it would be reasonable to speculate that maybe 1-2 of them will be on an NBA roster 2 years from now, and none of them in the top 8 of a rotation.

The Big Ten has some fantastic big time recruiters.  One of them competes for talent within the state.  Izzo can talk about coaching Draymond Green, Zach Randolph, Shannon Brown, and Jason Richardson among others and ask them if they want to be the next Draymond Green or the next Mitch McGary.    Down South, Matta can do the same thing with Conley, Sullinger, Turner and Cook.  What five star prospect with an eye on the NBA is going to choose Beilein over Izzo and Matta with their respective track records?

I like Beilein and I am not calling for his head, but I am not sure our expectations should ever be a consistent Final Four contender with him.  He's a good coach but he has a ceiling and has never developed a consistently starting NBA player in his long career.

03/12/2016 - 6:04pm Island of misfit toys is a

Island of misfit toys is a great way to phrase it. I'm stealing tha

03/12/2016 - 6:02pm Irvin was a 4/5 star, Walton,

Irvin was a 4/5 star, Walton, Donnal, Kam were 4 stars. Wilson might have been a borderline 4 star. There is recruited talent on this team. They just either haven't developed in Beilein's system or they were overrated. Which of course means that we can't absolve Beilein. But we have been getting the talent, if not true blue blood elite talent, enough to compete in a major conference theoretically.

But Beilein has to recruit size. I don't care how a traditional low post guy fits in his system. Look at what McGary did when he came alive in the tourney. Even Jordan Morgan gave Michigan someone who could hold his own down low. Watching scrawny guys like Donnal and Wagner try to defend against Purdues low post guys was comical at best. When you realize that they literally have no one else that can even attempt to defend them and still hold their own on the offensive side it's depressing.

03/03/2016 - 2:51pm Will Iowa

Will Iowa even be a top 25 RPI team if we beat them on Saturday?  I knows semantics (top 25 wins would now be top 30 wins), but the quality of that potential win is dropping rapidly.

02/25/2016 - 9:13am My broader point is that

"My broader point is that basketball is not nearly as ingrained in UM's culture as it is at Indiana, MSU, OSU, Wisconsin and even Illinois / Purdue."

Basketball school, Basketball school, disagree, meh maybe, Basketball school, disagree

11/28/2015 - 4:00pm Ugh

So frustrating to be 1-7 in last 8 against Sparty and 1-10 in last 11 against Ohio.  Frustrating but at the same time the sting is lessening on these losses.  We will try again next year and hope Jim has the players and has his team prepared.

11/25/2015 - 10:10am This

This...I feel better about a PSU win than I should.

11/23/2015 - 3:15pm You nailed 15

You nailed 15 minutes of work I've had this month :)

11/23/2015 - 1:19pm Exactly so its not a 0

Exactly so its not a 0 chance.  The scenario I posted does not require a bunch of upsets or improbable things happening.  The only major upset is PSU over MSU, which based on how sluggish MSU looks at times is not out of the question.

I can understand 'playoff scenario fatigue' but I definitely think its still a possibility, albeit not a strong one.  Keep the faith guys.  


There are 2 undefeated teams (one we have a chance to leap by beating H2H)

There are 8 one loss teams.  Of those 8:

-1 we can knock out on our own (OSU)

-3 are playing games that they will likely be underdogs in (ND at Stanford, Florida v Alabama, Oklahoma State v Oklahoma)

That leaves 4 teams (5 with UM) for 3 spots.  Bama has 1, so 4 teams for 2 spots. MSU has to lose to PSU obviously, so 3 teams for 2 spots if that one upset occurs.

11/08/2015 - 7:25pm As far as MSU/UM I'm sure UM

As far as MSU/UM I'm sure UM is more likely to win the conference because Michigan plays Ohio State at home and MSU plays them in Columbus. Meaning it's more likely UM beats OSU with MSU losing to OSU. it probably has UM as the slightly better team as well.

Conversely, MSU probably has better playoff odds because if they won out they would be a 1 loss team and having won in Columbus and A2 and against Iowa. If Michigan wins out they'd still be a 2 loss team with wins at home over OSU and Iowa. 1 loss and 1 more quality win in conference play = more likely to make the playoffs

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05/01/2015 - 8:59pm But which blue?!?!?

But which blue?!?!?

02/09/2015 - 3:44pm Maybe but...

Weber wants to go pro and make millions.  If he believes Ohio State is going to give him the best opportunity to do that, I don't blame him.  This is a decision that could effect his entire life, so of course he's not going to think of it from the perspective of a fan.

02/09/2015 - 3:41pm Burn them? No

But I don't think its accidental he chose that shirt to wear, knowing his workout was going up on Instagram.

I don't necessarily think it means he's going to ask for his release, but its his own personal form of protest.

02/04/2015 - 12:51pm Putting this in the back of my mind

...Urban 1 Jim 0

Let me stress that it doesn't bother me at all that Urban won this one.  Or at least it doesn't change my opinion of Jim in even the slightest.  But with all that talk about "Urban is impossible to say no to" and "Urban will recruit Michigan", this is something that I will put in the back of my mind in case it becomes a trend.

Weber was a Detroit guy, who committed to Michigan, understandably decommitted when Hoke was fired, then Michigan upgraded to probably one of the best college coaches in the game, but was unable to shake off the coach from a school he should have grown up hating. Maybe its an fact it probably is.  But dammit I don't want to see many of these types of situations going their way over the next 5 years.

02/04/2015 - 10:53am Lesson is...

Guess the lesson learned is, if their twitter page changes the day before NSD (*cough* Jefferson and Adams *cough*), they are just as likely to be trolling as they are giving hints

01/21/2015 - 9:56am Since there's a good possiblity

...that things go south from here on out, I want to point out that Michigan is 56-20 in the Big Ten since January 22, 2011


9-4 the rest of 10-11

13-5 in 11-12

12-6 in 12-13

15-3 in 13-14

5-2 so far in 14-15

01/14/2015 - 9:51am Yeah

Yeah it should piss them off so that they hire elite coaches in football and basketball.  Oh wait we already have that.

OSU gets their night to gloat but how quickly they forget who has had more basketball success lately.  UM has been to a NC game and an Elite 8 the last 2 years while my memory of OSU is Craft on the floor crying after losing to an 11 seed in the 1st round.

01/14/2015 - 9:49am If

If GRIII wasn't a first rounder, there is no way Caris is.  I know the draft is thinner than last year's but Glenn oozed upside and potential.  I don't think I've seen anything this year that suggests Caris has similar intangibles.  I'm not saying he couldn't find a role in the NBA but he's got a lot of risk IMO.  Not worth a 1st.

01/13/2015 - 3:33pm Only 3 in a row.  The last

Only 3 in a row.  The last game of 12-13, the only regular season game of 13-14, and the Big Ten Tournament game.

Agree about the schedule though, kind of like forcing us to play in East Lansing 2 years in a row for football.

01/13/2015 - 3:27pm Yup..

Adding insult to injury by beating them at home the night after they lost the NC Game would be better.  As would beating them at home after they are still despondant over a 0-12 football season.  But I guess neither are in play at the moment....

01/13/2015 - 12:24pm Not really

Not really worried about it.  If Jim has the kind of immediate success he's had at other stops (except Stanford but that was a program that had really bottomed out and lacked talent), we will be looking at much better than 7th.  I'd have us in the top 4 personally.

And to the article's credit, despite right now having a terrible recruiting class, they still bumped us up over 5 Big Ten teams that finished with the same or better records than us last year.

01/13/2015 - 10:57am There is still a ton of

There is still a ton of talent on UM.  They just need coaches who can get the most out of them.  Low and behold we got Harbaugh and co.

Granted I'm drinking way too much Kool-Aid predicting 10-2 as the schedule is tough as always, but I believe in Harbaugh and believe he deserves my positive energy.

01/13/2015 - 10:53am 10-2 and I guarantee a win

10-2 and I guarantee a win over either MSU or OSU if not both.  Both at home, Harbaugh will not allow losses to both.


End up in either the Rose or Capital One bowl.  Whoever beats UM between MSU and OSU goes undefeated in BTT game and ends up in the playoff.

12/30/2014 - 2:31pm It's pretty official

Someone tweeted out a photo of 2 rows of seats at Crisler that were reserved for "Harbaugh and Family"

12/30/2014 - 12:40pm It's really freaking

It's really freaking me out how close at times Harbaugh's hoarse voice sounded like Hoke's.

12/30/2014 - 10:18am Biggest thing

Stop calling them Ohio.  Since we started calling them Ohio:

-Michigan went 1-3 against them, the only win being a 6 point victory at home over a 6-6 team that looked dead the last half of the season

-Declining record each year leading to a bowl less season

-Losing to the ACTUAL Ohio twice in basketball, including once in the NCAA Tournament.

Calling them Ohio State is fine, and not gratifying them by adding that stupid three letter article before the name is still a slight shot at them.

12/03/2014 - 9:32am I feel like

I feel like Doyle would have been redshirted if McGary came back.  

09/07/2013 - 10:51pm 1997 and 2006

I'm a little surprised that 1997 and 2006 aren't on this list.  Especially 2006.  1997 was a big win in a NC season.  2006 was a demolishing of the #2 ranked team in the country at Notre Dame that led to a 11-0 start and a BCS bowl bid.

Other than that, great article

04/12/2013 - 8:06am If Louisville scored at the

If Louisville scored at the rate they did the last 24 minutes of the game the entire game they would have scored 108 points in the game. Frankly they outplayed us from the 4 min mark of the first half on. There were bad calls but its hard to complain about them when our defense didn't have an answer for them and got completely dominated on the boards.

Gritty effort to remain in the game until the very end though.

04/11/2013 - 7:52pm Right. I used to be that guy

Right. I used to be that guy (like the OP). I'm unfortunately a Cubs fan and I remember being numb for a week after they blew the NLCS. It ruined my enjoyment of life for a short time.

Guess things change when you get older. I enjoyed the hell out of this NCAA run and it made my days better the day after they won and Tuesday morning sucked and I avoided ESPN for a bit but it didn't drastically alter my day or anything.

04/08/2013 - 10:04am This is kind of nit picky but

This is kind of nit picky but I wish that they could just say "Michigan vs. Louisville" in graphics instead of "4 Michigan vs. 1 Louisville".  I don't know why but it bothers me....this is the championship game..seeds don't matter anymore.  To me it only makes sense within the regions.  Once you get to the Final Four it shouldn't matter.

Yes, I'm ready for the game to start! LOL

04/06/2013 - 9:37pm Not looking good....don't

Not looking good....don't have any answers for this zone if they arent hitting shots.  

04/06/2013 - 9:37pm Miss please

Miss please

04/06/2013 - 9:31pm This zone sucks....

This zone sucks....

04/06/2013 - 9:11pm Go blue!!!!!!!!!

Go blue!!!!!!!!!