Frost/D'Antoni
Here's an interesting read in Football Study Hall. It's quite insightful given the shift in M's offensive mindset under Gattis, not only from the standpoint of how we might expect the matchup to go against the stout Sparty rush defense, but also regarding how the M defense might expect to handle Frost's wily schemes going forward.
Master class chess games of 2018: Frost vs. Dantonio
In year one at Nebraska Scott Frost had to take on the Big 10’s best run-stopping defensive program in a chess game that may be played out multiple times in the coming years.
D'Antoni coaches the Rockets
Not on this website:
https://mgoblog.com/search/google?keys=d%27antoni
Stjoemfan's join date claims to have been here 11+/- years. Must be yet another bug in the new site.
I give the guy a pass. I very clearly spend way more time here than stjoemfan and there's a ton of stuff that goes over my head because I didn't participate in a liveblog or get sucked into a megathread or get involved in some random board spat/feud. Although the D'antoni thing IS pretty all over the place.
Been here forever.
Must have missed the d'antoni thing.
so crucify a guy.....
This is a real picture of a thing that happened on ESPN and it's glorious.
I laugh out loud every time I see this
This is what happens when you fire everyone with talent so that you can pay the shouting people more, and ask interns to do the technical work.
Don't care, end result is DSRSPKT.
That sounds like a canned gravy response.
Wow. Nixon looks like a younger danantonia in that pic.
Compelling
That 9-6 game was embarrassing for all parties involved - and Ecky Pting wants me to read more than a dozen paragraphs about it?
And here I am reading about it... I would ask for an intervention, but if you are reading my comment, you probably need a similar intervention.
I'm conflicted. Should I upvote for truths or neg b/c they hurt my feelings?
One does have to wade around in a good bit of bathwater there to come up with the baby... and I salute you!
Reading your comment > reading the whole article (I didn’t read the article)
Mike is done. He missed the down M window. Sorry Mikey ...
I'd hardly say he missed it. He did a lot of winning and took MSU to heights rarely seen in EL. The only reason I wouldn't say he 'maximized' the opportunity is that he could not upgrade MSU's recruiting profile to sustain the success as UM climbed back into it.
Yessir. Whatever you think of the man personally, the guy can coach. He has no business having the success he has had at a 2nd rate college football program. I think any Michigan fan would gladly take the on-the-field results that Dantonio has produced since 2007. I would.
Michigan should be very glad every attempt State has made in improving their talent base under his regime has ended poorly. Can you imagine that team over the last 5 years or so with Michigan's recruiting talent. Scary.
He tried to upgrade their recruiting profile by hiring Blackwell. It was working until the house of cards collapsed and he had to boot the rapists, I mean "seducers". Then he threw his recruiting ugrade under the bus and ditched Blackwell to save his own hide.
The tide has turned, look at the state Two deep. Where’s the threat?
A resurgent Michigan should be good to lay 5-7 losses on us every year from here on out. It's a real logistical problem for us.
Id say it's closer to between 3-9....
Seems like the TL:DR of it is Nebraska out schemed MSU but didn't have the players to execute. If we run similar concepts I don't think players will be an issue.
But having the players to execute is part of the scheming. Putting your bad QB to throw quick outs he can't hit isn't outscheming--it's putting your kid in a position to make a play he can't make. If you can't block the OLB with your flexed out TE on bubble that's not outscheming, that's getting outcoached yourself. For all we know, Dantonio and his DC were willing to give that up thinking they couldn't get beat on that play.
Frost has some good stuff--the Quads Empty with a BS TE is a damn problem, particularly if you have a QB who can run. And maybe this was a year to get his stuff in and then put the players he recruits in this coming season to actually execute it, results in 2018 be damned. They did seem to get better as the year progressed. But scoring 9 points in a football game in this day and age is hardly outscheming anybody.
trending to peak off season
That was about a week ago when it was merely trending. We are now rolling unhindered and with gathering speed down the hill into the doldrums of OT Season.
End Game: done watched it.
NBA Playoffs: will be over before we know it.
AFTER THAT the summer's going to get really stupid.
OT: If you could be any tree, which tree would you be?
I thought mike dantonio coached volleyball? What is this football nonsense?
The MSU budget is a little tight with all of the lawsuits and attorney fees. They have asked some staff to take on multiple roles.
Yeah. Dantonio and Izzo are both coaches and counselors now.....
Really enjoyed that article... great illustration of how tactics can win the battle.
Bo always seemed to be a master tactician... something we've missed since Carr left.
There was a quote years ago from Lou Holtz "I don't know what happens to Michigan at half-time, but it always does..." identifying that Bo always seemed to have the answers and could implement them at half-time to churn out a Win.
I think this more than anything, is what us seasoned fans, are looking for. A coach that understands where he's being beat, and makes those corrections!
Carr was a master tactician? Did I miss a decade?
Yeah... I should have written that differently, Bo being a master tactician, and Carr being an understudy...
But... Carr was still better than Rich Rod, Hoke, and Harbs (at this point). Harbs is trying too hard to be like Bo, and failing miserably.
Carr subscribed to the theory that given enough opportunities, opposing teams would beat themselves. He was often correct. The only issue I had with it is that, given some of the rosters he had, it would have been a lot easier to just beat the shit out of the other team from the opening kick instead of waiting on them to beat themselves in the fourth quarter.
Exactly. If he was up 7-10 in the 2nd half, Carr would go into run out the clock mode rather than stomping on the opponent's throat.
Bo always seemed to be a master tactician
I assume you're excluding Rose Bowls in making that assessment.
I just can't make myself read an article about Stae.
It’s State.
-Stjoemfan
The article is about Nebraska.
That's the way I read it at least. Not that that's much better.
Even I couldn't get through it, but we're not known for reading per se.
Frost is going to beat his ass more times than not.
In the game against Staee last season it seemed like Michigan did pretty well running the ball in the late 3rd and 4th quarter. The defense for Staee was gassed and just didn’t have anything left.
I think MSU will be really good next season. Excellent defense and, if healthy, and upperclassman Lewerke.
Michigan will make 2-3 huge costly mistakes against MSU (ex from last 2 years include: Evans fumble, Isaac fumble, McKeon fumble).
Michigan will completely forget about Lewerke’s legs.
Brian will talk about how bad/low-ranked/injured State’s O line is and then they will push M’s D line off the ball at will.
MSU offense will have 3-5 plays just for M that nobody has seen. MSU will also run a variation off a trick play they have already run in an earlier game and M’s D will look so lost you would think MSU just invented the play (ex. Trick play at the goal line last year, nobody covered the quarterback.)
M’s defense will be much worse than 2018.
Put all that together and I’m not confident about the MSU game if MSU is playing healthy.
bad acid trip?
This is a very advanced case of BPONE.