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01/22/2019 - 6:23pm We're not really bitching…

We're not really bitching about the rankings (outlying whiners excepted), because it's well understood that they don't mean anything of importance. Both our games against Michigan look like they'll be important and anxiety-inducing.

09/07/2018 - 11:17pm Apparently Aubrey Solomon…

Apparently Aubrey Solomon posted something on a social media site- Chapsnatch or something- that he had surgery on his leg.

Why is he on a site for snatching chaps? Sounds unseemly.

09/06/2018 - 8:09pm I remember when Michigan…

I remember when Michigan used to have that confidence — and anyone watching a close game late, with Lloyd on the sidelines, pretty much expected Michigan to win as inevitably as Darth Vader and the Empire taking over another plucky, rebellious star system.

Its been a while since I’ve had that sick sense of foreboding and resignation about Michigan.

09/06/2018 - 8:07pm What more literally defies…

It defies logic how lucky that little bastard is. 

What more literally defies logic is you continuing to call it “luck” when he keeps doing it.

His teams are resilient.

09/06/2018 - 12:18pm A close friend of mine…

A close friend of mine finished her 4 years at UofM with a straight 4.0.

She was choosing her law school from acceptances at Berkeley, UCLA, or another stint at Michigan. A brilliant, confident, highly capable and (incidentally) beautiful woman with the world at her feet; someone whose intellect, drive, and achievements I’ve always respected immensely.

She told me point blank she was only going to law school “to find a husband.”


09/05/2018 - 2:39pm I have no idea what you…

I have no idea what you watched (if anything of us at all), because Lewerke looked fine, better than fine.

He had an ill-advised pick 6 and a fumble that should have been ruled intentional grounding. Other than that he wad dealing. He's our ace in the hole on a team that would otherwise be hampered by subpar OL play. We're gonna be ok.

09/04/2018 - 2:32pm You seem nice.

You seem nice.

09/04/2018 - 3:56am I’m sorry, but you can’t…

I’m sorry, but you can’t just do that so easily — for starters, Wisconsin is not a verb.

09/03/2018 - 6:05pm F-bombs, calling out…

F-bombs, calling out specific kids by name, calling the whole program trash... all pretty severely over the line when you represent a corporate media employer in a high profile job that relies on good ties with the league's schools, don't you think?

Poor form for a notable alum even if he didn't have the BTN job; fans and critics already rain enough poison down on the kids via the twitters without your brothers within the program doing the same...

Sounds like Braylon needs some help.

09/03/2018 - 1:17am You guys already have the…

You guys already have the known ringer; he’s the guy this conversation is about.

I don’t know what’s wrong with the OL, the play calling, the languid pace during crunch time. Those are head scratchers.

Not the Harbaugh I remember from Stanford and SF.

I do think there’s an institution-wide arrogance and expectation (fans, coaches, players, even the recruiting pitch to players), that “we’re Michigan” entitlement, that makes for soft-ish teams. It’s not an insane decade of unfortunate flukes. It’s a program that doesn’t gut it out in the clutch.

Unpopular opinion from an unwelcome source, probably. Just trying to honestly unpack what I’ve been able to discern.


upside: there are still 11+ games. Units gel. Adjustments are made. Guys improve. There’s opportunity and risk for everyone right now. None of the East’s big 4 looked invincible.


I didn’t watch PSU or OSU; won’t opine. MSU has the same problems that Michigan had: an OL we hoped would improve and didn’t appear to in game 1. A defense we’re confident about that the opponent had some success against. Some critical penalties and self-inflicted wounds that we need to clean up. I do think a hallmark difference under Dantonio is our team nuts up and gets the ugly win, and we did. I don’t expect we’d have beaten ND yesterday though.

In these early games it’s like it’s still camp: we’re mostly playing against ourselves and trying to clean aspects of our game up. It’s gonna be an interesting season. Lots to chew on, feel anxious about, and hope for.

08/28/2018 - 11:27am ;-) I already DO root for…

;-) I already DO root for the good guys 

08/27/2018 - 11:38pm I was generally impressed…

I was generally impressed with the level of disgust the Spartans I knew had for the way the administration handled just about everything.

Heartbreak at what happened. Disgust at the response. Eventual anger. Continuing bouts of outrage and helplessness. The entire spectrum pretty much. 

08/27/2018 - 11:29pm Reasonably civilized…

Reasonably civilized conversation on any number of topics, important and otherwise.

I'm sure I'll eventually lapse into a moment of trolling here and there if I continue to participate here. Can you just wait until I've done it before you dismiss me for it? I think it's a reasonable ask.

08/27/2018 - 7:58pm 1. Yes, Peppers described…

1. Yes, Peppers described Durkin's style as bully coaching. That's literally all I was pointing out. The reporter asking the question used (according to the account at the top of this thread) the same phrase, so I guess it makes Peppers' take on it relevant at the very least. I'm not drawing a single conclusion beyond that, nor will you see me do so.


2. The point about Durkin being the head man at Maryland and being responsible for the culture from the top down is valid.


3. Suggesting that I have "zero moral high ground" to discuss the issue like an adult, with other fellow adults who might Give A Shit About Stuff, because I went to MSU, is fucking absurd and a child's take. I'm not (nor have I ever been) in the administration at MSU, athletic or otherwise. I'm just an alum. Please, put your big boy pants on and try to have a discussion without letting stupid rivalry feelings render you incapable.

08/27/2018 - 7:54pm The question the reporter…

The question the reporter posed was about bully coaching, so Peppers' comments on the subject are at the very least relevant if not dispositive. I'll explain a little more of my position (not nearly as contrary or antagonistic to your own as you seem to think) in a response a little further down the thread.

08/27/2018 - 7:23pm Difficult to refute based on…

Difficult to refute based on available evidence.

08/27/2018 - 7:17pm You have ONE HUNDRED AND…

You have ONE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN THOUSAND points on an internet message board. I'll not take advice on getting a life from the likes of you, thank you very much.

08/27/2018 - 6:46pm Why are YOU here?

Why are YOU here?

08/27/2018 - 6:31pm It is both wrong and weird,…

It is both wrong and weird, sir.

08/27/2018 - 6:28pm Peppers said it happened…

Peppers said it happened. You say it didn't.

08/16/2018 - 10:24pm You guys keep banging the …

You guys keep banging the "luck" drum, and frankly it's an imbecile's take if you're trying to make the case that MSU is "always lucky." If you find someone's being "consistently lucky" in football, it means they're a well-coached team that's consistently capitalizing on opportunity.

08/07/2018 - 11:37pm This is literally a PED…

There is literally a PED implication made by one poster or another in every single thread that references MSU in even the most tangential way. It is honestly part of the very reliable narrative on MSU here. It's like when Trump repeats the same absurd and shameless lie again and again until eventually it fades into background noise, but somehow becomes part of the fabric of the conversation.

I don't think the things tRCMB says about Michigan fans are literally true. I know that because, being from Michigan, many of my friends and family are UM alums. They're alright on the whole. :) That said, the prevailing stereotypes about Michigan fans (arrogant, highly impressed with yourselves, compelled to remind yourselves and everyone else about how superlative UM and its alums are at every opportunity) are fairly mild and y'know, (hate to say it) rooted in a kernel of truth. You guys ARE extremely pleased with yourselves.

The stereotypes I see repeated here as fundamental truths, ad nauseam, are a) startlingly nasty, and b) pretty divorced from reality. I really really really hope my UofM friends and family don't secretly think I'm a rapist, 'roiding example of walking, talking human excrement too intellectually feeble to hold a conversation without drooling — certainly, it's clear that's what this group would instinctively think of me before reading a single word I posted.

I'm forced to observe, with a measure of real surprise, that this blog is creepier and crazier than the RCMB. The vitriol is off the scale. Truly not what I expected. I know that online comment sections and message boards are like our collective id — we often show the worst, most unhinged aspects of our personalities here, unfortunately. But man... this place is an eye opener. Is this a result of the last ten years? I wonder... if this board existed in 1999, whether the tone would be the same.

08/07/2018 - 6:18pm You sound measured and…

You sound measured and reasonable in your interpretation of the world around you.

08/07/2018 - 6:16pm Or, or, or (says Occam) the…

Or, or, or (says Occam) the rumors you're hearing and accepting as gospel are... not in fact gospel.

08/07/2018 - 5:49pm So... when any of our guys…

So... when any of our guys gain 20 in an offseason, it's "definitely roids" but this guy gains 15 in a month and a half and it's just *schwing!* *heart eyes emojis* #HisFrameCanTakeMore *swoon*

Never change, Michigan fans. Never change.

08/03/2018 - 7:53pm Also, if b) is true,…

Also, if b) is true, consider the 3-9 2016 season our mega-tank; chip is officially recharged for like a decade. SO SORRY.

08/02/2018 - 5:11pm Please, guys, help me…

Please, guys, help me understand...

Your earnestly-held beliefs include: 

a) MSU is pissed about its ranking in a pre-season poll, because the team's ability to motivate depends specifically on being underrated vis-a-vis Michigan, and

b) MSU would strategically tank one of its 12 regular season games in order to reacquire the mythical "chip"?

Do you guys fucking read what you write before hitting save? These things strike you as plausible?

07/24/2018 - 5:19pm It's a fallacy that we "need…

It's a fallacy that we "need" him; we have good returning productivity at LB and solid depth there. His absence was supposed to be a huge problem last year. Turned out, it wasn't. Solid unit.

I agree the optics of this are shitty if you're an uninformed outsider.

That said, the kid was out of football for a year, has lost his scholarship permanently (last year and this year), and his football aspirations were seriously derailed if not, it appears, permanently destroyed. Dantonio has already said it will remain up to his team to decide how far he progresses toward seeing the field this fall; it's not a done deal yet. He could have transferred. Didn't.

There's an argument to make on this one either way (I know our fanbase isn't united on how to react to this). But is this particular blog going to take an opportunistic glee and capitalize on the opportunity to mischaracterize the situation to whatever degree possible? Sure. Obviously.

Have fun with that, sorry to dampen it with a couple of facts :) 

06/30/2018 - 3:44pm That was the Stockholm…

That was the Stockholm Syndrome

06/29/2018 - 6:56pm One final caveat: I do think…

One final caveat: I do think Harbaugh might be a moron. His staff are probably not though.

06/29/2018 - 6:56pm Doesn't mean I think he won…

Doesn't mean I think he won't be good... naturally I have high hopes for him. But if your staff (not a bunch of morons) didn't prioritize him then maybe he just wasn't deemed the right guy FOR MICHIGAN. Nothing wrong with that.

06/29/2018 - 6:55pm Hey may have fallen through…

Hey may have fallen through the cracks, or your staff may have made an active choice not to pursue him. In either case if I were a Michigan fan I wouldn't be stressing this in the slightest... he clearly was not a high priority, gotta trust the coaches on that kind of thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

06/29/2018 - 6:53pm Maybe! Maybe not! Let's play…

Maybe! Maybe not! Let's play :) I for one don't mind when Mork grabs a 4* or 5* because I think he's a pretty solid coach. Give him talent... good things (sometimes) happen.

06/29/2018 - 6:51pm 100% agree with this post —…

100% agree with this post — different people respond to different styles. That's why there's nothing to be gained from lamenting a lost recruit. Your coaches are going to recruit in a way that's true to your institution and your program. Some kids will respond, others won't. You frankly don't want the ones who don't. They are de facto a poor fit for you.

06/29/2018 - 6:49pm Didn't recall that he'd…

Didn't recall that he'd committed on signing day, thanks for that clarification.

06/29/2018 - 11:52am If I recall correctly, the…

If I recall correctly, the situation with OSU/Mike Weber was even worse than you describe: the coach split the day after SIGNING DAY.

06/27/2018 - 12:52am I understand the reaction to…

I understand the reaction to the abuse scandal. Trust me, we’re a combination of outraged and heartsick over it. MSU is like a family... this predator went after our kids, our sisters.

Worse, the people responsible for keeping watch failed... and continue to do and say all the wrong things. It couldn’t be a worse disaster, not least of all because it doesn’t look like it’s getting handled the way we’d hope.

But, I’ll say (at risk of catching hell here) that the conflation of the Nassar tragedy with football and basketball has been IMO opportunistic (media) and overblown; I don’t think there’s anything to the notion that guys like Dantonio or Izzo (not actual real life villains; both with daughters at MSU over the last decade) would or COULD influence criminal investigations in any meaningful way. Certain outlets set out to re-publicize cases that already went through police and prosecutors, and piggyback on the Nassar attention. But their job is to tell stories and get clicks; can’t blame a turtle for snapping.

Is there a culture problem? Yes, for sure we’ve seen an instinct for institutional ass covering, and it causes me no end of rage. Is it a Baylor or Penn State kind of situation within football and basketball at MSU? I haven’t seen anything credible to support that insinuation. Then again, I’m on the outside looking in, and as susceptible to my biases as you all are to yours.

Would I send my kid to MSU? No! He’s going to Stanford, damn it. Freshman class of 2032. Anyone know if an obsession with garbage trucks is considered a solid extracurricular? He doesn’t seem interested in coding...

06/26/2018 - 12:14pm You know, it's funny how…

You know, it's funny how similar sports fandom can appear to politics. You can't think of a single reason a kid might want to go to a school other than your own? It has to boil down to laziness, corruption, or poor moral character? "The people who don't see it my way must be bad people."

This is, frankly, astonishing and more than a little disappointing.

Kids make visits. They interact with coaches and potential future teammates. They look for the best fit on and off the field. Believe it or not (I understand it's counter to the narrative here) one can get a perfectly good education in East Lansing; world class in some disciplines and eminently serviceable in countless others. Every kid is different... perhaps for some of them EL just feels like a better match. Certainly, that's the way I view it when I prospect doesn't choose MSU.

I don't love the University of Michigan. Rivalry, and all that. But I don't walk around thinking Wolverines are terrible people. My brother is a wolverine. Some of my best friends are too. I have to imagine they don't think I'm a terrible person because I'm a Spartan... if so, they do an admirable job of hiding their contempt when we interact, presumably for my benefit.

Some people need to take a step back and gain some perspective now and then, I think...

06/08/2018 - 12:13pm Really devastating. Love his…

Really devastating. Love his books and his shows. Struggling to get my mind around this one.

06/07/2018 - 5:58pm Strip away names that would…

Strip away names that would reveal who you root for, and (save for being uniquely focused on how special your school and alumni are) the Michigan fan base on this site is indistinguishable from that of any school/blog.



06/07/2018 - 5:57pm Strip away names that would…

Strip away names that would reveal who you root for, and (save for being uniquely focused on how special your school and alumni are) the Michigan fan base on this site is indistinguishable from that of any school/blog.

06/07/2018 - 11:55am It is a conspiracy theory…

It is a conspiracy theory and frankly it's absurd on its face. Don Izzo and Godfather Dantonio have the prosecutors on the take, huh? Do you know how fucking stupid that sounds? How stupid it is?

It's truly disheartening (in a bigger "human condition" kind of sense) to witness the lengths you'll go to mentally, to try and process the fact that these two men have had your number more often than not on the athletics field.

06/06/2018 - 7:58pm I find it perplexing that…

I find it perplexing that you believe the MSU Athletic Department holds some sort of imperious sway over the Prosecutor's Office. You may want to ask William of Occam if he has a spare razor he can lend you.

Back when I was a prosecutor, "weird" plea bargains like this usually meant a weak case or a complaining witness who balked at the prospect of taking it to trial. I'm not familiar with the finer details of this one, so my comments are meant in a more general sense; certainly not speculating about this case specifically.

Here's an interesting article on the psychology of conspiracy theory belief... hope you don't find it too familiar.

“Conspiracy theories are for losers,” says Joseph Uscinski, associate professor of political science at the University of Miami and co-author of the 2014 book American Conspiracy Theories. Uscinski stresses that he uses the term literally, not pejoratively. “People who have lost an election, money or influence look for something to explain that loss.”

05/26/2018 - 8:28pm It’s almost like Durham Blue

It’s almost like Durham Blue went into cryo-stasis during the last year of Carr and was thawed out *this morning*

05/26/2018 - 8:24pm *ahem* I can vouch he is not

*ahem* (re: the “Sparty troll” allegation) I can vouch he is not one of ours, and also it’s sort of pathetic/flattering that people around here hurl “sparty” as an epithet to dismiss anyone with an opinion they don’t agree with.

Given that Sparty is a title of esteem, it just seems counterintuitive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

05/26/2018 - 8:06pm Is hat... Bob Saget??? If so,

Is that... Bob Saget??? If so, all the lolz

01/12/2018 - 3:36pm Snyder wasn't a

Snyder wasn't a co-cordinator. Tressel and Barnett were co-DCs. Snyder coached linebackers and special teams in '16 and both were pretty bad.


Yes, Warner caught most of the heat; Barnett also got his share. People went back and forth on both of those guys. Snyder was the one case where pretty much every fan who cared to weigh in on staffing said "this guy needs to go."

01/11/2018 - 9:41pm We could have fielded an

We could have fielded an entire team of scapegoats, after that season...

01/11/2018 - 6:29pm If there was one

If there was one universally-reviled, “must fire” scapegoat after going 3-9, it was Snyder. People argued about whether the OC or DC should go, but there were zero spartan fans in Snyder’s camp 12 months ago.

Just FYI.

01/02/2018 - 7:01pm You were duly forewarned that

You were duly forewarned that it's just getting started.


;) I think you guys will bounce back just fine next year, truth be told. Too much talent there, and Jim didn't forget how to coach.


I think you'll see a big improvement in WR play as guys get more mature, and I expect the OL will be shored up as well with an offseason of conditioning, getting healthy, and introducing some new guys off redshirt, etc (I have next to no working knowledge of your roster, just broad assumptions that tend to hold true). You guys will be fine.