Three Michigan State Players Officially Named, Charged
The three Michigan State players involved in the alleged sexual assault from January have been named and officially charged. The players are Josh King, Donnie Corley and Demetrius Vance. Story below.
http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2017/06/06/sexual-a…
If content going around Twitter this AM is true, then these players are going to jail. There is no room for jokes. These guys not only ruined a young woman's life, but their own.
Can it get any worse?
The football program is in freefall. I would imagine the locker room atmosphere it unbearable. This is going to be an awful period for MSU football. Supposedly some more bad news is in the pipeline.
I think UMBig said there were still guys in "Red Lock" and these situations were still to be sorted out.
So what happens next?
Hmmmm, I'm not really sure. I guess we will just have to see.
They called themselves the dream team in 2016 (this recruiting class). What a disgusting group of people if all these allegations are true - Robertson included.
I swear all this started happening within days of that Lynn Henning article claiming MSU focuses on character and family values above all back in mid winter. Amazing timing Lynn.
Glad I'm not the only one who remembers that article. At the time, I interpreted it as a reaction to Michigan's highly rated class. "They might have more stars, but we win because we recruit "character" guys and coach them up."
then why did they wait until after NSD to suspend Blackwell? They waited until Feb 9th, as I recall.
the victim alleges happened. Curoius if anyone who's seen these rumors/details could share what's been said or point us in the direction of the information (if it's not appropriate to share here).
I've seen some rumors as to what Blackwell's role might have been, but haven't heard what the victim alleges.
I've been following the case and am interested in hearing what the victim has to say (even if it's second hand). Waiting for official details from MSU on this might take longer than the official details for Max Bullough.
User name checks out.
I actually grabbed the nickname from the bizarre day in court where Jackson was late and wasn't going to arrive. The judge wasn't having it and Jackson ended up showing up, literally, in his pajamas.
Jackson made some great music, but the whole kid sleepover thing... um... awful.
The Mlive article has the specifics of the alleged incident:
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2017/06/police_allege_3_michiga…
It doesn't mention Blackwell's roll, but from what I've heard: Somehow, soon after the incident Blackwell became aware that something had happened. He went to the players in question, asked them about it, and then did nothing.
Here's my question after reading what seems to have gone down...
WHY DID IT TAKE OVER 4 MONTHS TO BRING CHARGES?!?
Maybe the evidence was just recently discovered, but it seems like they have 1) Victim reports from the following day, 2) Video, 3) Texts, 4) Eventual admission to sexual contact after initial denial (aka "lying").
I want to believe that it legimiately took this long, but I struggle to understand how some rumors of the details of the incident were seemingly available within 1-2 weeks and yet it takes over a third of the year to bring charges. This duration and the history of seemingly giving MSU athletes preferential treatment (for example Payne/Appling) makes me have some serious doubts that the police/prosecutor were aggressively pursuing an arrest. Maybe I just don't understand the details involved.
Also, why is this sexual assault and not just straight up rape? The account seems to have all of the necessary elements for that classification with regard to King, correct?
There's now an article on MLive with details, if you're interested. Kyle Austin's twitter also has some.
Repugnant stuff.
Not so good MSU. Seems that this is becoming an all to typical series of comments to describe the interaction between an MSU athlete and a female student.
That is what gets lost in all of this bickering on this thread. We can talk about losing culture, Baylor comparisons, etc. My gut absolutely turned over when I read the details on the story. So horrible.
know UM would have taken Corley and perhaps some of these other guys who lacked judgment and character.
If the MSU football administration covered it up then I hope they are criminally prosecuted.
However sadly things like this can and are happening at many campus with football teams. Many of these players quite frankly don't belong on the campuses they "attend school at" and are treated with kid gloves when they do something wrong because quite they are the best marketing tool for the university ($).
It's really sad. Until programs like Baylor football and Louisville basketball receive the death penalty, and all players who commit crimes receive stiifer penalties, this will awful cycle of illegal behavior and then meaningless remorse will continue.
need to reevaluate his recruiting strategy. When you take too many players with character issues, there's the danger that they will influence their teammates, rather than the other way around.
At MSU there is always going to be that temptation, when you are trying to compete with teams that continually recruit better. Add in some hubris about your ability to judge character or influence them and things can get out of hand.
I don't know the Detroit players personally but wouldn't surprise me if their chief role models were the late Coach Harvel and Coach Wilcher. Once they are not in the daily lives of these kids, the chance of getting into trouble increases significantly whatever campus they are on.
I could name more. You bring guys like him on your campus and it can cause problems with your other players. That certainly seemed to be the case at Baylor although Dantonio's attiitude is much different than Briles.
Michigan obviously pursued Corley. From what I've heard about King, I wouldn't be so sure we would have actually taken him. Coaches often learn plenty about kids between the time they offer them and signing day.
and then they all admitted that they did. Those are the kinds of character issues that will start an investigation off on the wrong foot. Credibility is shot after that.
Amen.
This is just a horrific situation.
The evidence sounds like 3 young men completely abused and violated a young woman. They need to have their day in court, but there is no good here. I don't wish this on any person, and I wish it never happened at any program, because that would mean there aren't any victims.
I can't help read that account and imagine my own daughter in that situation, and then I get repulsed/furious/dismayed.
My only hope for this is that MSU, the courts, and the Police handle this properly and that somehow that young lady can get some piece of her life back.
Mark Holis's crocodile tears...Get the fuck out of here.
Think it was ok to assault a woman??!!! WTF! If you have to, teach these athletes on day one that it's NOT OK TO ASSAULT A WOMAN, OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR THAT MATTER. It's crazy how many stories we keep hearinga about this behavior. I just don't get it.
Why not protect your investment by surrounding them with adult supervision so they don't make stupid decisions that ruin a bunch of lives. I think there should be money to make sure these kids have adult escorts with them after hours and a reasonable curfew until they're 21 years old or a junior, whichever occurs first.
Maybe it's too strict, but the adults need to take more accountability for setting up an environment where this kind of stuff can be considered okay by kids who, to the best of our knowledge, never did anything remotely close to this in high school (excluding Auston Robertson).
Strongly suggest everyone divert over to Brian's twitter account right about now-ish--he's currently destroying MSU's thuggish program tweet by tweet. BOMBS AWAY.
He would not be doing this if the stuff didn't go down today.
You would be hard pressed to find any university in a decade-plus under a coach not having to deal with something bad. That's the way it goes when you have 80+ people together on a team every season.
Sorry, this is not the time to shit on a program. We should be thinking about the victim and families and not laughing about it.
Poor taste IMO.
You read through those tweets and thought that Brian was laughing about the assault?
But this is obviously happening because of the results today.
Brian wasn't celebrating--he was pointing out the clear trend of behavior out of that program. Every reminder and iota of exposure means that culture is more likely to be stopped.
But, it's also cool to be overly woke about this.
Vance and atty plan on fighting charges in court
— Madison O'Connor (@madisonoconn) June 6, 2017
When they do it during a fumble recovery dogpile, they get a helmet sticker.
Feel bad for all involved but gives me comfort knowing that when Michigan passes/misses on in-state stand outs like McDowell and Corley, part of it probably has to do with their not passing the character sniff test required to be a Michigan Wolverine. We've had a few bad apples make it through like York but for the most part dodged most bullets.
If Corley came to Michigan, this would not have happened?
Let's not play the high and mighty card here. Michigan wanted Corley, and were recruiting him big time. He would have been a Wolverine if he wanted to, and could have very well got into a similar situation in Ann Arbor.
It seemed like we didn't pursue him very much until Harbaugh came on the scene. I just wonder if he sensed something that raised a red flag.
Have the Fulmer Cup Standings been updated to reflect this?
When you're put on a pedestal, it's easy to think you're untouchable. I think that's what we're seeing across the board when this happens at the college level. Guys who were superstars at their high schools, some of whom didn't have great role models or structure in their lives. But what they did have was a sense of entitlement from an early age. I know this scenario because I have a friend whose kid was told from an early age he was the best athlete in town. His parents totally bought in. When something didn't go his way, it was always someone else's fault -- usually the coach. That kid bounced around from sport to sport because he couldn't bear to not be the best at all times. He just finished junior year by flunking all his classes and is no longer eligible to play sports. He may not graduate high school. And I believe it's because his parents blew smoke up his ass and made him think that the rules didn't apply to him. Same thing with a lot of these guys that do make it to college.
The comparisons to Baylor, while not fair, made me realize how brave the victim was for coming forward. Who knows where this ends up 10 years from now if this young lady doesn't stand up. Baylor wasn't Baylor 10 years ago, it started somewhere.
Suspended the players when the allegations came out, kicked them off the team when they got formally charged. That's about as good as you can hope for from an administrative standpoint.
With the way that some of you are almost celebrating this right now. You're grown men you should be ashamed. Imagine if that was your daughter who was the victim. Oh and by the way JT had the first. Grant Perry is no better to anyone outside of your fan base.