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12/11/2018 - 4:37pm Losing Dax was  a gut punch,…

Losing Dax was  a gut punch, but we'll see how it works out. 

People I think get too wrapped up in recruiting (myself included) prior to signing day. Verbals in the end don't mean a thing. No kid is truly 'committed' until they sign. 

And... while I would really love him back.... I can't fault a kid for wanting to play football at 'Bama or school at Stanford. I wish him well. 

12/07/2018 - 10:23am "Anyway, I urge everyone who…

"Anyway, I urge everyone who has not yet visited Pearl and the USS Arizona Memorial to add them to his or her "bucket list." "

I would second this. I'm not sure what the state of the wreck is, but the Arizona isn't going to last forever. She may collapse in on herself. 

12/07/2018 - 10:19am I went in the early 2000's…

I went in the early 2000's. Very moving. We went one day and they had some of the last survivors from the day of the attack. Simply amazing, and a great honor and opportunity for me to hear it from their own mouths, in their own words. 

12/06/2018 - 11:33am Pure escapism. 

It's an…

Pure escapism. 

It's an interesting game with interesting stories and interesting personalities. 

I can't control the national debt; the poor philosophies underpinning many policies in our nation, or other issues. Most of my efforts and brain power are concerned with being as good a husband and father as I can be. So it's a fun distraction that causes no harm. 

12/06/2018 - 11:31am "Would Harbaugh be…

"Would Harbaugh be interested in coaching the Green Bay Packers?  I don't really know. Maybe? There is reason to speculate that he could."

For me this sits firmly in the 'Borrowing trouble' category. 

He's stated before that he hasn't been interested. Anything can happen, but I'm not going to worry or speculate about it. 

12/05/2018 - 8:50am I love how it seems with…

I love how it seems with these guys Harbaugh is simultaneously over rated and a failure at Michigan and a top candidate for new NFL jobseekers 

12/02/2018 - 12:52pm I’d love someone who can…

I’d love someone who can open up the passing game a bit, but I think I don’t want wholesale change. Continuity counts for something too and this offense isn’t as bad as some suggest

12/02/2018 - 12:49pm McElwain did a great job…

McElwain did a great job here with the receivers. I’m glad roundtree is here and I hope he steps into the spot and does as well. 

11/29/2018 - 8:51pm When you do the bigger…

When you do the bigger upgrade can you bring back the midi file that played the victors? I miss that. 

11/29/2018 - 4:12pm Yeah. I did too. I didn't…

Yeah. I did too. I didn't know they were bad actors. I just thought they were schmucks. 

11/29/2018 - 4:11pm Very true. I'd rather have a…

Very true. I'd rather have a Urban Meyer type spread rather than RR. To be honest, I think RR's spread got largely downloaded by the end. We didn't do much against MSU or OSU, and that was after going all in on offense. 

So, as I've stated before, I"m rather scheme agnostic. I'd like an offense that can shift into different phases. Maybe a base spread, with power elements when needed to control the clock and some read option from time to time. I'm willing to vary the percentage of what we do based on our opponent and our talent. 

What I *DO NOT WANT* is a ______ Zealot. I don't want a guy who says he wants to have pure manball, pure read option, pure spread, pure.... and RR is too close to that pure ideology to make me comfortable. 

That, and do we really want someone fired after sexual harassment claims? 

11/28/2018 - 3:42pm 'Win giving up potentially…

'Win giving up potentially 70 points' doesn't exist against any team. So we need to keep the defense and work on the offense, and try to keep a balance. 

11/28/2018 - 3:41pm Fair point. But is anyone? 

Fair point. But is anyone? 

I hear 'Offense wins championships!' and it gives me the shivers. You have to be very careful what you ask for, and be a bit circumspect. Fads are just that. 

I'm totally fine if we want to throw some spread in there, ratchet the offense up, and score more. We have the QB's and the WR's to do it, and maybe finally the O line to really make it work. 

But I don't want to lose the ability to run the ball and control the clock if need be. Nor do I want the defense to get worse. 

11/28/2018 - 3:33pm I disagree. The Da Vinci…

I disagree. The Da Vinci code was a hot mess. And too many of it's readers came to me talking about it as if it was a history textbook. 

11/28/2018 - 1:07pm Excellent post. 

I think…

Excellent post. 

I think that, while Saturday sucked, it wasn't an accurate indication of how good/bad we are. It was a perfect storm of shit that just happens some time. Some was on the coaches, some on the players, some on the other team playing extremely well. 

We need to keep recruiting up, even somehow in the face of that loss. We need to keep up the winning against 'the rest' pace, beat MSU next year; but somehow shift focus a little bit more to OSU.

None of these are easy things. MSU will be stronger next year. OSU will be the talent rich team they are, and we lose a ton on defense. 

But I believe it can be done. 

Above all, as a culture, the team needs to take that next step to believe we can win the big game. 

11/28/2018 - 11:01am I guess I think of it this…

I guess I think of it this way: If I had one class left at UM that I didn't need to take; that was decently hard, and might just damage my chances at a future job I want if I take it and don't do well, would I take it? 


I'd graduate, take the job, and move on. 

Now, here there is the added teammate situation, and I get that. But if these other kids are okay with it, and they may well be, then he should stay out. 

11/28/2018 - 10:53am I'm fine with tweaking the…

I'm fine with tweaking the offense, maybe even alot. I want to be very very careful with the 'offense uber alles' stance some are taking. We tried that in '07. Didn't work out well. At all. 

11/28/2018 - 10:49am I think Red Zone offense is…

I think Red Zone offense is 100% in play. I'm not sure what the deal is there. 

11/28/2018 - 10:32am I think that it depends on…

I think that it depends on the circumstance. If you can control the ball and score, it works fine. If we ran the ball and scored on every or most drives this game looks alot different. And indeed, when their offense is just nuking our defense it probably behooves us on multiple levels to control the damned clock and keep their offense off the field. 

we *should* have run the ball alot more vs. MSU last year. 


11/28/2018 - 10:29am Some people are spread heads…

Some people are spread heads; and nothing will satisfy them unless the ball is in the air all the time. Even if we have spread and read option looks, any running will be frowned upon. 

A 1st and 2nd down pass that flies over the receiver, or is dropped, will be better received by the fan base than a 1st or 2nd down run that nets 1-2 yards. 

11/27/2018 - 9:52pm I admit I may be different…

I admit I may be different. I keep wanting to move farther north. I love snow. I love skiing. Wasn't a fan of AZ or Utah and their hot, dry deserts, or the hot, wet south. 

11/27/2018 - 9:49pm I don't mind if a kid headed…

I don't mind if a kid headed to the draft sits out, particularly if it is fine with their teammates. This isn't about us. 


11/26/2018 - 4:59pm Good post. Just one point: 

Good post. Just one point: 

"Furthermore, though I don’t believe Michigan is really colder than anywhere else of similar latitude (I’m from Iowa and used to live in NYC), the perception that Michigan winters are horrendous probably prevents some talented players from considering us."

I don't discount this. I just don't get it. Yes, Michigan can get somewhat chilly in the winter. But it also isn't regularly the sweat soaked oven of 100% humidity that is in the South. 

I went to Savannah a couple summers ago and every day it was 100% humidity and well over 100 degrees. I barley wanted to breath, let alone practice. 

Let me practice in cold weather any day of the week. 

11/26/2018 - 4:22pm Maybe. If they can fit the…

Maybe. If they can fit the culture, or change it. 

Maybe, if they can recruit here. 

Maybe, if *another* coaching change doesn't cost us big time in both current players and recruiting costs in the changeover...

Maybe, just maybe, there are other guys out there who can do better. But I think it's a big damned risk and too soon to say that we've hit Harbaugh's ceiling. 

The siren song of the new coach is always there. You see it with pro teams. You see it with some college teams. As we've seen with RR, or other teams have seen with their new toys, it often doesn't work out, and then things are worse. 

11/26/2018 - 4:18pm I think also that there is…

I think also that there is the fact that for some of these teams, PSU and MSU in particular, they desperately wanted to beat us to legitimize their seasons. They were good wins. 

In College football momentum and enthusiasm matters, as Purdue showed against OSU. 

11/26/2018 - 2:53pm Yeah, There are many times I…

Yeah, There are many times I don't agree with him, but this article was spot on, in my opinion. We're better, but not there yet. My outlook is, I think, brighter than his, but it is what it is. 

Some may not like Baumgardner, and I get it. But Brian said something during the Nassar BS which really made me appreciate Nick more. 

The MSU Media danced around Nassar and the other BS. Nick wouldn't. And in the end, God Forbid that anything like that happens here, it might prevent a disaster from spiraling out of control. 

11/26/2018 - 2:35pm I've been thrilled to have…

I've been thrilled to have Rashan. It's been amazing. Heal up dude! Come back and, if you haven't already, get your degree. In the meantime, to paraphrase his mom, 'Go get some NFL quarterback ass!'

11/26/2018 - 11:45am I don't know you. And there…

I don't know you. And there isn't much I can do. But dear God I'm so sorry. My son is 10 and having to bury him would tear my heart out so badly I can't imagine it. F*ck the game. Take care of yourself as best you can. 


11/25/2018 - 6:47pm I will be curious to see the…

I will be curious to see the ufr and see what happened with Wino and Gary. They are both excellent players

11/25/2018 - 5:26pm Well said

Well said

11/25/2018 - 4:44pm I’m out. Presented with…

I’m out. Presented with facts you resort to ad hominems. I’ve been here 8 years, I’m hardly a troll. Enjoy stewing in your bitterness. 

11/25/2018 - 1:06pm "hasn't built shit".


"hasn't built shit".

Here are some facts for you. 

UM Football record 2008-2014: 46-42. The last two years ('13-'14) were 7-5 and 5-7, so things were going downhill. 

Michigan State *embarrassed us* physically and otherwise on the field prior to Harbaugh. 

UM Football record 2015-2018: 38-13. 

Prior to Harbaugh we hadn't defeated a ranked opponent since '06 under Carr. We did this year. 

Let's compare the records of the first four years of Harbaugh to other coaches: 

39-12 -Carr

36-9-3 - Moeller

38-6 - Bo

17-18 - Bump Elliot

Harbaugh has built plenty. 

Throwing him out for blind hope that we find an up and comer, or blind hope that an existing coach can come here and make us instantly successful is S T U P I D. It throws out everything we've gained in the past four years, whether you can see it or not. It makes us a coaching carousel location, and thus less attractive for the type of coach you want. 

You simply don't want to admit how bad we were. You simply don't want to recognize the progress we've made. You simply want a scape goat and a target for your anger. And in the meantime you're advocating cutting your nose off to spite your face. 

11/25/2018 - 12:48pm I agree. This sucks, but it…

I agree. This sucks, but it's fixable. I wouldn't be shocked to see Pep gone in the offseason. That said, the offense wasn't the worst offender here. I love Don Brown but there seems to be one game a year where our defense just fails. If our defense doesn't collapse, we have a shot at this. 


11/24/2018 - 10:55pm ““M football is no longer…

““M football is no longer competitive, fun, or even interesting.”

this doesn’t even make sense when we are sitting on our third 19 win season after nearly a decade of shit. Good God.

11/24/2018 - 10:49pm Not done well?? He beat two…

Not done well?? He beat two ranked teams On the road this year! 20-3 in his first two years when the previous 2 were 13-13 and getting worse! He is a great coach. He’s having a huge provlem getting over that hump with OSU but what the hell!

11/24/2018 - 10:34pm “Neg me all you want.”


“Neg me all you want.”


11/24/2018 - 10:25pm Because it falls into the…

Because it falls into the overly simplistic idea that we are “just that one coach away...”

Harbaugh is, by his 38 win over 4 years, including 2 big wins on the road this year, an objectively good coach.

prior to him we sucked. Badly. Free tickets with two cokes badly. 

No, a half price coach couldn’t do that. 

No, any of the coaches who *might* make a different wouldn’t come if we ditch Harbaugh after everything he’s done and the measurable improvement we have seen. Why would they? Most are independently wealthy anyway. Why deal with a bitchy fan base that always listens to hawt takes and is always one game from calling for your head?

we’ve done the hot lightnin’ boy coach with RR. It failed. We got the loyalist with Hoke. It failed.

now we have a big time coach who has us in a winning trajectory. A guy who actually seems to give a shit about his kids academic futures. A guy who so far runs a clean program when our chief rivals are mired in serious shit. A guy who has bought in and brought his family here. A guy who brings in the beat coaching talent he can find because he wants to win and doesn’t have a huge ego. A guy who took a team of doldrums under RR and Hoke and has us doing great things...

and you want to piss that away because OSU beat the shit out of us at home. Well, screw you. UM football means more to me than one game.

today sucked. But in the balance it’s small potatoes. OSU feels great but they still have Zach Smith. I’m very proud to be a UM alum, something my dad dreamed of. And I’m proud of the well rounded football program Harbaugh has built. It’s something that will happen over time. It is happening now. We’ll get there. And entering to coaching carousel now is just completely stupid. 

11/24/2018 - 6:35pm We were 13-13 the previous 2…

We were 13-13 the previous 2 seasons and getting worse. 

We weren’t even filling the stadium.

Using your formula we were losing to Toledo and getting into shootouts with Akron

you’re just wrong

11/21/2018 - 3:40pm But... it wasn't that way. 

But... it wasn't that way. 

Bo's last three years would have had people today screaming. Moeller likely would have people screaming for his head by year 4, and definitely by year 5. Car was about the same till '97. 

Here, we had people getting their undies in a bunchy after going 20-6 for Harbaughs first two years, after having gone 12-13 the previous two seasons under Hoke!

This is part of the reason I get so frustrated with Marcus Ray. He was on the 97 team but he was also on alot of teams that didn't have as good of records, against an arguably weaker B1G field.  

I was there from '91-95.

1987 Bo Schembechler 8-4-

1988 Bo Schembechler 9-2

1989 Bo Schembechler 10-2

1990 Gary Moeller 9-3

1991 Gary Moeller 10-2

1992 Gary Moeller 9-0-3

1993 Gary Moeller 8-4

1994 Gary Moeller 8-4

1995 Lloyd Carr 9-4

1996 Lloyd Carr 8-4

11/21/2018 - 3:26pm You wonder with a guy like…

You wonder with a guy like Franklin... why not bust your ass to get some even just pretty good OC's/DC's; you recruit and do the CEO stuff.  'Here, I gave you a bag full of four and five stars. I suck at the game time stuff, so you do it...'

11/19/2018 - 1:14pm GRRR. That drove me nuts. 

GRRR. That drove me nuts. 

Too many people listen to our rivals crap then make determinations of our program. 

I've heard of people who *still* think Harbaugh should go due to bad playcalling. 'I could figure it out....' Whatever. 

11/19/2018 - 1:10pm My mind is in an odd place…

My mind is in an odd place. All I could think of was the SDS. 'Well, I guess they weren't very effective...'

11/19/2018 - 12:35pm I'm on board. 

But we as a…

I'm on board. 

But we as a fan base are always one rival loss from committing ritual fan seppuku and looking for the next best thing. 

I know I sound like a dead horse, but we went 8-4 a couple times when I was there, and while it wasn't ideal we were okay. I think the internet has made things that much worse. And I have relatives who are casual fans who subscribe to the latest hawt take who like to chime in from time to time. 

I had to talk one down over the summer because of the international trips. 'It's taking away from football....'

11/13/2018 - 10:22am I agree. 


he has played…

I agree. 


he has played great for us, and been a great leader. If we go crazy this year and just keep winning I'm thrilled to have had him and will be thrilled for him in the pros. And if that is his best option I'm also very happy that Jim will be forthright with him. 

11/13/2018 - 10:10am He's doing everything I want…

He's doing everything I want. Accurate passes? Check. Keeping plays alive when needed? Check. Not turning the ball over? Check. The added mobility of him running is just icing on the cake. 

Prior to him my favorite QB was Henne, then Denard. Now it might be Shea, Henne, then Denard.

11/13/2018 - 10:10am He's doing everything I want…

He's doing everything I want. Accurate passes? Check. Keeping plays alive when needed? Check. Not turning the ball over? Check. The added mobility of him running is just icing on the cake. 

Prior to him my favorite QB was Henne, then Denard. Now it might be Shea, Henne, then Denard.



11/06/2018 - 3:21pm After last year, this…

After last year, this conversation is just so nice...


11/05/2018 - 4:46pm I'll third this. One game at…

I'll third this. One game at a time. 

11/05/2018 - 3:19pm I remember sitting in NUBS …

I remember sitting in NUBS  in the early 90's cruising different usenet groups. Back then, I was young and naive, and I was thinking 'Wow, with the way the internet is exploding people will be able to share ideas, and the best will rise to the top. This country will experience an explosion of productivity as people are able to use the internet as a sounding board to sniff out bad political actors and the marketplace of ideas really works for us to find truth....

I also was eagerly awaiting the next version of netscape, couldn't understand how anyone would think Amazon could beat Borders, a little jealous of the guy who brought his zip drive with him, and I was *SURE* that that one girl who lived on South Main was THE ONE....

I laugh at myself back then.