Are you "outraged" about deflate-gate?

I'm astonished at the general OUTRAGE though. I suppose I shouldn't be. But still...I know we love to hate the Pats as a nation, but fucking really? A few balls were slightly under inflated for a half and that sudden enables them to win by 30 points? Get a fucking grip people.

I love it. Yet another superbowl where a team cheated their way in and still gets to play. Such a garbage league.

Dozens of former and current quarterbacks have said that this happens all the time so no. This is just the stupid media blowing it out of proportion because it's the pats

no, they keep forgetting this was caught in the first half and in the second half, the half that the pats destroyed the colts in, the balls had been replaced. it would appear the pats were actually trying to make it more of a sporting contest and give the public what they wanted. /s (sort of)

and , all hail brady!

how would UM fans feel if they were caught cheating again a team they have beaten handily the last 3/4 meetings? The issue is not the act per say but more why do the Patriots need to do this? 3 or 4 of the balls not meeting requirements that's one thing. But 11 of 12? That just balant disrespect for the rule. Also the rules allow for you to "doctor" the ball. And you can even deflate them. But the Pats just went to far.

I don't really care, although I think they should get creative with the penalties for things like this. Like, the other team should get to supply New England's balls (to be checked by the refs within normal guidelines) for the next game, or for all of next season, or whatever. That'd be a good deterrent for the future, and also potentially really funny if other teams do it right. Can you imagine the Pats having to play with 6 highly inflated scuff-free balls and 6 underinflated superscuffed balls with the refs switching between them randomly all the time? Good luck with that.

Physics! This whole thing is just a way to get people interested in watching a Super Bowl between Seattle and NE. A little controversy always helps ratings.

Sorry no.

My "Outrage" is still squarely focused on the blatant fixing of the Lions/Cowboys game a few weeks ago by league officials when THIS was decided to not be PI once the officials realized calling it would fuck up the NFL's desired Ice Bowl II rematch....

More amused than outraged

Could not care less.

But puzzled why they (apparently) do this nonesense.

Somewhat perplexed at all the attention it's getting.

Yeah, they broke a rule.  A pretty damn small one.  Dock 'em some pay and move on.  Ban them from the Super Bowl?  Don't be ridiculous.

Don't really care, the outcome would of been the same...

Has anyone done the math with the ideal gas law to see if that could've accounted for the underinflation?  From my experience, a 30 degree difference could result in a a 2 psi drop in pressure, so if the balls were tested at room temp (75ish), then the gametime sub-50 degree temperature would do it.  I would not put it past the NFL to miss that.

I'm not not even in the neighborhood of chagrined.  I mean, a group of millionaire's might-have-tried-to-cheat-but-didn't-really-get-a-chance-because-the-cheaty-part-was-removed-from-the-2nd-half-of-the-game another group of millionaire's out of winning a football contest?  Wow. That's just too much to handle.

The rules say what pressure the ball needs to be delivered to the refs two hours before the game should be. It also says a pump must be furnished, presumably so refs can rein flare balls if they wanted. That puts the onus on the refs for not checking and correcting it before kickoff. Furthermore, the rules don't say what the air temp of the balls should be upon delivery, so if the Pats delivered 12psi balls @140 degrees, an then they deflated due to physics when they cooled down, the rule book doesn't say anything about whether that's legal or not.

If the NFL wants to fix this right though, it's Nerf or nothing.

Such a non-issue that the media will talk about for a week, because there is nothing else out there.  Wish they would spend more time on the NHL all star game this weekend...2nd favorite All Star game besides MLB.

Who cares. If the officials would've done their job and checked them it would not have mattered.
It did not determine the outcome of the game. Period.
Fine them and be done.

I don’t care. It is stupid the NFL does not handle the balls anyways. There is an easy fix to it. Also the officials had their hands on the ball every play.

The one thing I don't understand is that there is a finite range of PSI that a football can be inflated between in which it is still functional as a football.  I mean, if you have a football that is 6.5 PSI or something, it so malformed and non aerodynamic that it isn't usable, and if the inflation gets too extreme the ball will basically be a hard-to-hold blimp and won't act normally in the air.  So just make the acceptable range that range and then you don't have to worry so damn much about how inflated a ball is, especially since each team plays on with its own balls.

The officiating in the Lions-Cowboys game was much more egregious and impactful on the outcome of the game than this nonsense, but that was merely a blip on the MSM's radar. I guess it wasn't as sexy and cool as once again announcing the Patriots as perennial cheaters.

when you let a team take control of the footballs.  i've never really understood this philosophy.  i remember in the past, maybe still true, that college teams could choose the type of ball to use.  some used footballs with dimples while others used footballs with reverse dimples.

are you allowed to scuff footballs too?

all that said, it's a mountain out of a mole hill.

Networks have to fill air time.
The extra week between conference championships and the Super Bowl lets the media over inflate every "story".

"No"

I said it the other day, but as a Colts fan, the Pats whooped our behinds, and maybe the score is 28-7 not 45-7 if they were playing with the same inflated balls.  The end result would have been a loss for the Colts because the Colts just aren't good enough yet.  I have no problem with the Colts bringing this up as a point of contention, because rules are rules no matter how stupid one might think they are, and if an advantage was gained, then it is clearly cheating.  To me, this just further adds to my disdain for Belichek.  He is one of the greatest coaches ever, but the fact that this isn't the first time he has been caught cheating, really soils his rep.  He is the Jose Mourinho of football coaches, great at what he does, but is a very petty, little man at the end of the day.

They reflected the balls for the second half and the Patriots still beat the hell out of the Colts. The balls didn't make LeGarrette Blount run better or the offensive line holder blocks longer. It's just an overreaction.

Some of the sports radio talking heads have been hilarious.  I've heard claims that the Pats should be excluded from the draft this year and that Belichek should be banned for a year and fined a million dollars.

The NFL is a PR circus and I'm thinking Goddell and company are smirking in their boardroom. The free publicity leading up to the Super Bowl is great. This isn't the Ray Rice situation, just some minor stuff that occurred in a big blowout.

I'm sure the balls will be checked next week, so to speak...

Who gives a shit. Perhaps if the colts were able to stop Blount then I would care.

My right knee is sore, though.  Does that count?

Aaron Rogers and Peyton Manning have both talked about adjusting the pressure of footballs to get them to their liking.  I am sure more teams in the league do this to some extent.  This is only a story because it is Belichek and "spy-gate."

If anything, I think the NFL should widen the acceptable range of PSI.  It's more about preference on grip - not any true advantage one way or the other.

I doubt this is a rule that was given any real thought in the first place.

Sports Science:  http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=12207314

 

 

If Brady was 30-31 passing for 390 yads and six TDs and Luck was 5-20 for 139, maybe.  Can't see that a pound or 2 of PSi would make enough difference to totally change the outcome.  It's a waste of time to discuss, but wanted to get my .02 in.

He should be forced to repair all the damage at the ski resort himself.

I'm outraged that this shit keeps getting brought up. Has the super bowl become that boring that we have to drag out non stories?

the NFL to stir interest during this off week. And no one will ask Goodell about domestic violence in the media onslaught next week ... Ridiculous. Pointless. Idiotic.

I don't give a shit, a flying fuck, or even a rat's ass.