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09/20/2018 - 6:36pm 95 degrees with 99% humidity…

95 degrees with 99% humidity is not realistically possible anywhere in the US....

09/20/2018 - 6:28pm Wait...Drevno is coaching…

Wait...Drevno is coaching RBs??? Wha?

09/20/2018 - 4:13pm Good lord look at the data…

Yeah, no that article doesn't say anything about dew points in the 70s and above. Their humidity chart isn't exactly very informative about where the 1st and 3rd weeks' gameday dew points lie in terms of "normal" for Michigan.

09/20/2018 - 4:08pm Humidity isn't a term that…

Humidity isn't a term that should bother's just a generic term for describing how humid it is. There are several ways to measure it, and at least imo there is no implication that humidity means "relative humidity" specifically. Dew point and relative humidity are both measures of humidity.  As are lesser-known quantities specific humidity and absolute humidity. Dew point is definitely most appropriate for this situation though. 


09/18/2018 - 3:41pm Well, when your QB hits 70%+…

Well, when your QB hits 70%+ of his passes and can actually hit the open receivers in mid- to long-range, he doesn't need to throw the ball nearly as much....

I mean, if you'll notice, JOK had a 45.7% completion against MSU. But yay he threw the ball 35 times I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think Shea will need to be relied upon for the bigger games. I don't think 25 attempts is some magic number though.


09/18/2018 - 3:32pm I mean, gosh, at least those…

I mean, gosh, at least those runs that are doomed from the start are gaining 2 yards now. That's not nothing...let's not forget how many runs were TFL under the Hoke years (the iconic 27 for 27 game comes to mind)

09/18/2018 - 2:37pm Because it's humid as hell?…

Because it's humid as hell? ND cramped up too in that first week. As for SMU, our defense was on the field for a looooooong time in the 2nd half, and our offense responded by annoyingly scoring very quickly, so I think it's just one of those things man. I'm not worried about it.

09/17/2018 - 4:26pm At least half of this…

At least half of this fanbase echoes that angsty judgy negative mood about I recommend a "/s" next time.

Edit: See ak47's comment below

09/17/2018 - 3:36pm Can confirm: Watched on tv…

Can confirm: Watched on tv via the BTN app, and it was one of the more unenjoyable games I can ever remember watching. It was a slog, constant interruptions. Late in the game when it was over but not totally over, I remember sitting in my recliner staring blankly at the screen with my elbow propped on the arm of the chair and holding my head up, as yet another dubious flag was thrown by the refs. It was not fun to watch no matter where you were.

09/10/2018 - 4:13pm What is the exact rule here?…

What is the exact rule here? My understanding is it's like the goalline...extend the goalpost vertically forever, if any part of the ball touches that imaginary vertical line above the edge of the goalpost it's ruled good. I could be wrong of course.

09/05/2018 - 4:22pm Quite frankly, it's…

Quite frankly, it's ridiculous that anyone could sell them as a National title contender this year. At best they're a dark horse to compete for the Big Ten title. 

Just because expectations are out of whack doesn't mean we should hold the coach accountable to them...because then we'll never get what we want.

09/05/2018 - 4:20pm But I think it has, though…

But I think it has, though. We just aren't seeing it in top 25 results yet. Hoke's teams didn't just lose to ranked opponents on the road...they got run off the field.  They'd also lose to unranked road opponents all the time, like Iowa and Rutgers(?!?!). They almost lost to a bad Connecticut team on the road once. Hoke's teams were awful on the road. 

Further evidence: including the ND loss, Harbaugh's teams are 9-6 on the road since he was hired. It's not great. But when you see that Hoke was 7-12 on the road...yeah, maybe the team IS actually better. 


09/05/2018 - 3:50pm Harbaugh has made some…

Harbaugh has made some monumental errors as coach.

But the overreaction of our fanbase to each loss is much more ridiculous. It's like everyone forgot how awful it really was from 2008-2014, and the state of the program when Harbaugh took over. There were a lot of positions with massive recruiting holes besides OT.

09/05/2018 - 3:50pm Harbaugh has made some…

Harbaugh has made some monumental errors as coach.

But the overreaction of our fanbase to each loss is much more ridiculous. It's like everyone forgot how awful it really was from 2008-2014, and the state of the program when Harbaugh took over. There were a lot of positions with massive recruiting holes besides OT.

09/04/2018 - 8:55pm I don't know why everyone is…

I don't know why everyone is suddenly latching onto this "0-17" crap anyway.  I mean, yes, it needs to change...but honestly it feels like Harbaugh is being blamed for all 17 losses.

I mean, why now? Why not when it was 0-15? Or 0-10? Do we like putting ourselves down every chance we get? Do we need to constantly remind ourselves that, yes, things have sucked big time since Carr retired? 

I feel like people went into a coma from 2008-2014 and then woke up and are taking out every failure of the program in the last decade out on Harbaugh.  


09/03/2018 - 5:38pm I mean, I get it...but it's…

I mean, I get it...but it's week 1. No team is in top form in week 1. If they cannot do a hurry up when we go to MSU, then by all means blast the coaches.

Also, I want the offense to move the ball. I don't want them to hurry up to just go 3 and out. And by the way, for as cringey of a pace they had Saturday, it didn't matter (they got the ball left with 2 minutes to tie anyway). Not to mention, there were zero false start penalties. But I guess coach doesn't get credit for that, eh?

09/03/2018 - 12:29pm And Jim Harbaugh is to blame…

And Jim Harbaugh is to blame for ALL OF THOSE YEARS! FIRE HIM!!!!!!!

09/03/2018 - 12:13pm Also i see a lot of people…

Also i see a lot of people saying this will be like Hoke's 4th year.

You mean when we went 5-7 with a senior Devin Gardner as QB? The same year we couldn't put up a single point at ND? The year we lost to Rutgers and Maryland? That year? LOL I'd eat my hat if this year's team looks even half as bad this year.




09/03/2018 - 12:03pm Right because staying in the…

Right because staying in the game despite all the team struggles in the first half tells me they just turtle when they get punched in the mouth

WTF is wrong with people on this board??? One loss and y'all lose your everloving shit.

09/02/2018 - 2:45pm Something I don't see people…

Something I don't see people point out - If Will Grier stayed on at Florida, Jim would still be coaching there. WIll Grier is an early favorite for the Heisman this year. It will be interesting to see what WV does this season, they looked pretty good against Tennessee yesterday.

09/02/2018 - 2:40pm Lots of comparisons to Utah…

Lots of comparisons to Utah.

If everyone remembers, that game vs. Utah looked like a team still trying to shake off its Hokian tendencies. There were glimmers of hope, but ultimately they still looked like a Hoke team.

It's possible the OL goes through a similar transformation. We won't see the fruits of the OL coach's labors until later in the season, and right now they just look like a copy paste of last year's OL.

Even marginally-competent OL play would be good enough, but it's gonna take some time.

It's not all shit, ladies and gents. There's reason for optimism. Everyone bringing up the road game woes of Michigan over the past decade plus, but right now the team is 0-1 and has 11 games left to define the season. It could mean it all goes into a tire fire 5-7 Hokian season...or it could be one of those early losses that help to shape the course of a successful season. I'll take this loss to ND if it becomes a valuable lesson for what to expect when we got to MSU and OSU later on. 


09/02/2018 - 12:39pm I don't know if it's a lack…

I don't know if it's a lack of confidence, or overconfidence, or both depending on which player is in question...but the team lacks focus as a whole. The defense, in particular, cannot be considered elite or even "great" until they figure out how to overcome these bursts of time in key games where it seems like every conceivable thing that can go wrong does (penalties, giving up miracle bombs or QB draws on 3rd and long, missed turnover opportunities, overpursuing a QB causing him to burst through the pocket with nothing but green in front of him).

09/02/2018 - 12:16pm The program was not ready…

The program was not ready for last night - that's on Harbaugh. This was Dave Brandon-scheduling-Alabama-week-one levels of stupid. Michigan is still in a transition, can't find an OL or a QB, and coming off a shaky season...ND, despite some bad freshman QB play last year, has a well-established program with strong recruiting and a coach that's been there for about a decade. And oh won 10 games last year.

It was foolish to schedule this game in the first place, and now Harbaugh has to eat crow. 

As for the team - I think they had a lot of first-game-jitters and it effected their team speed. Defense was awful in the first half - they didn't seem to have the right focus...bad mistakes and penalties, giving up 3rd-and-longs all over the place, not concentrating on the ball when it's in the air, not knocking down the QB when you get there...ND was amped up and ready to go. Michigan made a good effort just to stay in the game, even give themselves a chance to tie it in the end. 

Bottom line take though: This team lives and dies by how its OL performs. They don't even need to be good, ffs....just, like, OK. Maybe even just below average. I'd take that over the big bunch of pushovers we saw last night. Shea Patterson has the makings of a good QB, but there is no QB on the planet that can overcome a sieve of an OL like last night (and honestly its foolish that some people thought he was some sort of "savior" of everything related to the offense)



09/02/2018 - 2:15am Well gee they sure did a…

Well gee they sure did a great job of not trying because they gave their opponent the ball with 2 minutes left to tie the game.

I mean do you people hear yourselves? Sure there's a natural tendency to let off the gas when you're up big...but it was an 11 to 14 point game for the entirety of the 2nd half. That's not a lead you want to go ultra-Carr-conservative with for an entire half. 

But yes, Brian Kelly is the evil mastermind who knew that we'd have a fumble to end the game so NO WORRIES OFFENSE! JUST STOP TRYING YOU GUYS! PACK IT IN!


09/02/2018 - 2:00am That was one of the more…

That was one of the more obvious targeting calls I've seen. The only "iffy" part was the WR was falling and that made his head lower, so Metellus may not have intended to do that like he did. But's 2018. You just cannot launch at a receiver like that anymore. Go for the ball, man.

08/24/2018 - 4:15pm Sweet Jeebus.

They were…

Sweet Jeebus.

They were better off saying absolutely nothing about the situation, honestly.

Fuck Jim Delaney.

08/23/2018 - 4:18pm That would be a fun…

That would be a fun conference to be in. Though the style of play would be very much an adjustment for Michigan...think, though, we could look to TCU for how to successfully manage it.

08/23/2018 - 4:13pm Stephen A brings up…

Stephen A brings up something I didn't know...Urban will be allowed to lead practices prior to games 2 and 3. So essentially the suspension is even LESS than the paltry 3 games it appears. 

Fuck Ohio State. Fuck them all.

08/23/2018 - 3:41pm Another sad yet poignant…

Another sad yet poignant reminder that winning isn't everything. If Harbaugh was accused of the same thing, I'd want him fired. I guarantee he would be fired. Even if he was 6-0 against MSU and OSU at this point. 

Which is precisely why I want Harbaugh around. He's still the last best shot we have as an institution to produce a program that wins games, but not at all costs. To do things the right way. If he can't do it, in my opinion, nobody can. Which means we'd have to sell our souls in order to win football games. And fuck that.

I just don't care about wins and losses. I just want this goddamn toxic culture to end. Our school is now in a division where greater than 50% of the schools have been recently involved in major scandals. And for what? A trophy? It's just not worth it.

I hope and pray that this significantly damages the OSU brand. That recruits look at it and say "WTF is wrong with this coach?" I'm doubtful obviously...but maybe, just maybe, some parents will care enough.



08/15/2018 - 2:02pm The dude sends TED talks via…

The dude sends TED talks via email at 11pm???? THE HORROR!!!!


08/13/2018 - 12:08pm This is my line of thinking…

This is my line of thinking as well.

Even if they end up not firing for cause, they will still likely want to build a case to persuade Meyer and his lawyers to settle for a buyout smaller than that $38M figure.

08/13/2018 - 12:08pm This is my line of thinking…

This is my line of thinking as well.

Even if they end up not firing for cause, they will still likely want to build a case to persuade Meyer and his lawyers to settle for a buyout smaller than that $38M figure.

05/03/2018 - 3:48pm That's what gets me

It's one thing for GMs to not want to take the risk and pass as a's another entirely to pretend you know better than the highly trained experts in the medical and then call the Raiders "irresponsible" as if they have some moral high ground for not drafting the guy. You don't. You're just upset a guy you wanted but passed on due to a potential health risk was taken by somebody else who is willing to take the think that if you can't have him nobody should. That's just jealousy and bitterness, not some altruistic "player safety" BS.


05/03/2018 - 2:55pm Ehhh

Look, I hate Crosby as much as the next guy, but I'm not so sure he spat in that video. When tensions are high words get exchanged, and it's not surprising if a little spittle is spewn in the process. 

I mean, Brad Marchand has been literally licking people this playoff season. Please direct your ire towards him.

I do enjoy seeing the Pens lose and Crosby revert to his true self though.

03/07/2018 - 5:20pm I dunno dude...

"What do you stand for? What do you stand for? If you stand for nothing, Burr, what'll you fall for?"

That seems much more applicable to Izzo as Burr than the other way around...


01/18/2018 - 9:42pm Eh, it was more than just that

HIs demeanor was off. He's an uber competetive guy, even with a young team I would be expecting him to show some fire on the sidelines. There was almost nothing. Not a single gifable moment. Two years prior we had multiple entries to choose from each week. 

He needed to tone it down a bit, but it wasn't just that. His demeanor was off, and in some feelinsgball sort of way I think it rubbed off to the team too. 

We need a fiery Harbaugh, no matter how young our team is. 

01/01/2018 - 10:02pm A disaster of epic proportions?

Good lord dude go to bed. It was a glorified scrimmage against a decent opponent. It wasn’t the end times. They played a pretty bad game from players to coaches. There’s a lot to learn from here and changes needed, but maybe let’s tone done the sky is falling talk a wee bit.

12/06/2017 - 9:00pm Yeah, OSU should be in.

But I'm glad they're not. Because they benefitted from the shitty committee decision last year...they shouldn't benefit this year in the name of 'getting it right'.  It would have been the most OSU thing ever if the committee DID put them in after what happened just one year ago.

OSU has had far too much go its way that I'm ok with it this year even if it is objectively the wrong thing for the committee to do. Because fuck those guys. 


12/05/2017 - 2:13pm When Peters got injured

It was 14-10.

So no, he wasn’t “on his way to a loss” necessarily. Emotions matter especially in college, and the team just lost their starting QB who was doing a decent job until that point of keeping his team competitive despite the run game being stymied.

11/28/2017 - 9:38pm This

Thank you so very much for saying this. To blame fans here is with anything, this all stems from the person in charge. File it under the “people in charge of things are just in charge, for no reason”.

11/28/2017 - 2:30pm Dude

7-5 is still good improvement over 3-9. Besides even if those two extra wins had some luck involved...they still happened. Plus their other loss was a 3OT loss that could just as easily had been a win.

I wish M fans would wake up and realize the MSU’s coach is and has always been top tier (barf). Yes, last year happened. I don’t know why we all expected them to be just as bad this year. He basically had them playing at the same level as Michigan this year, with a bit more luck/execution at the right moments. Dude absolutely deserves to be commended, much as I can’t stand that man.

11/27/2017 - 11:06am What this reminds me of

Are the people who wanted RR gone after one year or Hoke gone after year 3. 

Those coaches may have been fired, but they were wrong then and they're wrong now. RR wasn't fired for going 3-9...he was fired for failing to do anything in Big Ten play and fielding a historically bad defense in year 3. Hoke was fired for his disastrous  4th year with a cratering offense, most notably after he completely failed basic head coaching duties in his handling of Morris against Minnesota (not to mention the fact that he benched a 5th year senior for Morris...who proceeded to play not just worse, but exponentially worse). 

Harbaugh's seat is not warm. It's not even close to warm. Any claim to the contrary is wrong and counterproductive. The program has a great coach...we need to give him the stability required to actually build something. Aspects have certainly been underwhelming, particularly against rivals...but sometimes the randomness of sports is a cruel mistress and you lose on a once-in-a-lifetime play, or a spot is incorrectly called by biased refs, or a monsoon descends onto your stadium when you need to lead a comeback, or you are down two QBs from injury and have to start your clearly-not-good-enough transfer.  I'm not saying Harbaugh is immune to criticism...but I do not want to hear about any "hot seats", unless you want a program that wallows in misery for another 2 decades after pushing away the one good thing that's happened to them in 20 years. 


11/26/2017 - 7:38pm So of course

He’s coaching at Ohio State.

11/25/2017 - 5:31pm Or

Or perhaps a young team with depth/injury issues cannot remain as well-conditioned as more experienced opponents who regularly rotate personnel?

11/25/2017 - 3:59pm Fuck any talk of a hot seat


11/25/2017 - 3:56pm That was disappointing

Again why I think it’s on the players. Hurst is a senior...he’s an elite player. That was a huge mental error though.

11/25/2017 - 3:52pm A+

At some point it’s on the players. Coaches gave their team a chance to win it. Certainly not perfect, but that was a solid plan as a big underdog. Had the ball with 2 mins left and a chance to win it. Couldn’t get it done. Still too many unforced mental mistakes...but the plays were there to be made.

I was a bit disappointed the D couldn’t get stops, especially when the backup came in. Felt like Brown could have done better...but still the players just weren’t getting it done.

11/25/2017 - 3:38pm In the end

QB was the difference. It felt like JOK did the best he could. It wasn’t even close to enough.

I know Harbaugh is 0-3...but at some point it’s on the players. He put his team in a position to win today. They couldn’t get it done when it mattered.


11/25/2017 - 2:01pm Wtf are you talking about?

The ball was loose, Barret hadn’t fully recovered it yet. Late hit my ass.

11/25/2017 - 1:58pm Dumb

These things are both true. We haven’t played perfect, but Christ like 5 obvious things were missed in that quarter. Meanwhile we got two holding calls that weren’t even close to holds.

I get that officiating doesn’t explain everything, but every year, every DAMN year, it’s this same bs. Over time that shit should even out. It’s not. And it’s having an effect...possibly 3-7 points off the board because they didn’t call an obvious first down a first down. How about blocks in the back enabling them like 30 extra yards of free field position? This matters. It’s not the only thing, but it does.