woe be unto the mascots [Patrick Barron]

Preview: Wisconsin 2019 Comment Count

Brian September 20th, 2019 at 2:26 PM

Essentials

WHAT Michigan vs Wisconsin image
WHERE Camp Randall Stadium
Madison, WI
WHEN Noon Eastern
THE LINE Wisconsin –3.5
TELEVISION FOX
TICKETS exist
WEATHER ?!?!?!

Overview

So about that weather:

  • Accuweather: partly cloudy, low 70s, 20% chance of rain in the second half.
  • Weather Underground: thunderstorms and scattered thunderstorms for duration, 60-70% chance of rain each hour.
  • Weather Channel: pretty much the same as Weather Underground.

By two votes to one, Saturday is going to be an unpredictable combination of scattered rain, the occasional downpour, and everyone's favorite: lightning delays. Or maybe Camp Randall will dodge all of this. This preview is going to continue like this is going to be a normal-ish football game; if it does rain buckets prepare for the mother of all slogs. Camp Randall is an artificial surface, at least.

As for the opponent: Wisconsin has hammered its first two foes by a combined score of 110-0, which is a damn sight better than Michigan has done. It's probable that Wisconsin's first two foes are awful, though. USF went out the week after getting skunked by Wisconsin to post a 14-10 loss to Georgia Tech. GT is transitioning away from Paul Johnson's triple option and just lost to the Citadel. CMU spent its offseason drawing increasingly ludicrous shark hentai in a futile attempt to sate the… ah, nevermind.

Anyway, Wisconsin passed its tests against lower-echelon foes better than Michigan did so this line has swung a whopping 10 points from preseason expectations. Is that an overreaction based on Michigan losing more fumbles in two games than they did all of last year? Maybe. Probably. Let's hope so, anyway.

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Run Offense vs Wisconsin

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Available? [Marc-Gregor Campredon]

Beset by injury, Wisconsin limped into this game last year with planetoid nose tackle Olive Sagapolu flanked by 1) a guy who's starting at guard this year because he was always an OL and 2) an injury-hampered version of Isaiahh Loudermilk. ("Isaiahh" is not a typo. He can join a band with Dererk Pardon.) Let's set the shocking debut of Michigan's arc package aside and focus just on the running backs. Michigan didn't quite pave Wisconsin but Higdon, Wilson, and Evans combined for 149 yards on 30 carries, just under 5 a pop, and Michigan beat the Badger ground assault in success rate.

This year Wisconsin is again beset by injury. Sagapolu graduated. Bryson Williams, his replacement, is out of this game per the Badger injury report. That leaves true freshman Keeanu Benton as the "starting" NT, though as Seth notes Wisconsin has spent pretty much the entire season in a 2-4-5—also not a typo—with 230-pound OLB types playing standup end while their 3-4 DEs slide inside to play DT. At least those guys, Loudermilk and Garrett Rand, are hale.

This posed no problem against USF (29 yards on 16 non-QB rushes) and CMU (42 yards on 18 non-QB rushes). If that is due to Wisconsin cracking the football codes and downloading the opposition, Michigan's going to lose. If that's more about the opposition than anything, this could be anything from a meh outing reminiscent of Army (in which case Michigan loses) to a bonafide paving.

With all due respect to Jim Leonard and Wisconsin's program, doesn't this have to be more mirage than real? There's a reason defenses run more than two bonafide defensive linemen; there's a reason Wisconsin has not. It seems deeply unlikely the Badgers are going to make either a 2-4-5 or a true freshman nose tackle work out well against Michigan's OL of returning All Big Ten players.

The way they can make it work is by gaming Michigan's approach like Army did: shuffle ends that induce a give and then get to the play, linebackers on "scrape exchanges" who still get to occupy interior blockers; safeties and corners with the freedom to blitz with impunity if Michigan doesn't go after super soft corners. Free hitters can be 230 pounds and it doesn't matter. Hopefully a bye week after an early come to Jesus game will give Michigan enough time to address the issues that beset them against the Black Knights. Ed Warinner's been around the block and so has Harbaugh. If Gattis is off to a shaky start he's likely to stabilize.

For Michigan's part, they get back Jon Runyan Jr. Runyan Jr is an NFL guard playing tackle; for the purposes of this section he's a massive upgrade on Ryan Hayes and just the kind of mobile, reliable edge blocker suited to take on OLB types who could give a more ponderous guy the business. The injury status of their running backs is murkier, with rumors flying about Zach Charbonnet being unavailable for some time. These rumors are getting significant push-back from within the program, but there's no consensus on whether or not Charbonnet has had surgery, which… what? How is that an unknown?

Anyway: if Charbonnet can't go Michigan will probably split snaps between Christian Turner—who's been extremely impressive with the ball in his hands and also directly responsible for two sacks, and the fumbles that resulted, against Army—and Tru Wilson. Wilson has some sort of hand issue but is reportedly close to a return, and if Charbonnet's gone any version of Wilson that can pick up a blitz will be shoved on the field.

I wouldn't expect a ton of wide open QB runs after last year's game, but it's imperative that Michigan uses the threat of that productively and opens up the interior, which should be vulnerable no matter what configuration of meat the Badgers deploy.

KEY MATCHUP: INTERIOR OL versus WHATEVER WISCONSIN PUTS OUT THERE. Two 3-4 DEs, one of them a 6'7" guy under 300 pounds? Must win that decisively. Freshman NT? Must win that decisively.

Pass Offense vs Wisconsin

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must win pass pro [Bryan Fuller]

Wisconsin's rush capabilities are close to unknown but are probably subpar. 13.5 of last year's 18 sacks graduated. That sack rate was already just 98th nationally. Their passing down sack rate was even worse, 122nd. Baun (2.5 sacks) and Loudermilk (1) are the only guys in the starting lineup with any track record in that department, that thin. Wisconsin picked up 4 sacks against USF, so that's promising… and then GT matched that. Ah.

Seth does like Baun

The guy to really worry about is Zach Baun. Last year he was a quietly elite pass rusher who was often very close to a sack or TFL and rarely got that to pay off. This year, he's getting that excellent outside rush & dip combo to pay off:

AND he's worked on inside-outside and outside-inside moves that work a quarter of the time but also tend to stretch his athleticism and end up with him on the ground. This makes his pass rush a lot more dangerous if you get in a situation where you have to throw.

…but if Michigan can't contain him, with chips if necessary, it's going to be a long slog through Epenesa, Gross-Matos, Willekes, and Young.

It's possible that Wisconsin has blitz schemes that can make up for what projects to be a significant lack of one-on-one rush wins. But again, if that happens with four of five returning starters and Warinner back that is a season-altering red flag. Tough to predict that.

So, if Wisconsin isn't getting to the quarterback much and is dropping into a lot of 7- and 8-man zones the question becomes "is Shea Patterson any better this year?" Last year Wisconsin just dropped guys and waited for Patterson to self-destruct:

I thought both of the big drive ending-sacks Michigan suffered were Patterson's fault. Herbstreit kept talking about good coverage and long routes in this game and he was about half right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxugSJPGDrU&feature=youtu.be

Nico Collins doesn't get a ton of separation here but does put the DB in scramble mode. Patterson is already gone by the time this happens. It goes from this:

Patterson looking at DB with outside leverage

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To this:

Patterson already scrambling out as DB loses outside leverage

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Collins has a half foot on most DBs; I want Patterson to take that shot. …Other events were even clearer. Gentry turns his defensive back around on the play that turned into the very bad sack Patterson took:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NvU-ZcGMqY&feature=youtu.be

That guy is wide open, with yards of lateral separation from a defensive back who has to do a 360. But Patterson has already lost patience.

Patterson ate three sacks that were all his fault and had a total of 124 yards on 21 dropbacks, a performance roughly on par with Alex Hornibrook aside from Hornibrook's two interceptions. Assertion: if Patterson does not outperform Jack Coan Michigan is not going to win 38-13 again.

Wisconsin is again down starting S Scott Nelson but has reasonably experienced options filling the gaps behind; they've also flipped their corner two deep:

Speaking of annoying, the same foursome of grabby, unathletic cornerbacks remain, though last year's backups are this year's starters: boundary CB Deron Harrell, who moved last year from receiver, and field CB Faion Hicks, the little guy who kept playing 11 yards off DPJ because speed is an issue. The backups still rotate in plenty: Caesar Williams is a Brandon Watson type without the SWATSON powers.

They've been able to play in the face of the opposition so far, but Michigan's receivers should be another thing entirely. Taking advantage of that has not been a strength for Michigan thus far. That's partially on Patterson, and partially on a reluctance to force it in to Nico Collins.

KEY MATCHUP: SHEA PATTERSON vs THIS IS A NICE ROOMY POCKET. It is recommended to find a person to throw to instead of running into seven guys with their eyes on the QB.

Run Defense vs Wisconsin

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it takes a village to contain Taylor [Bryan Fuller]

This felt horrible last year when Michigan had Bryan Mone, a guy who is clinging to an NFL roster spot because of his ability to stuff the run, despite the outstanding results overall—barely total 200 yards for the Badgers before a late drive in garbage time. When Wisconsin was going after the DTs, though:

Michigan's DL scuffled against the ground game. Multiple guys ended up on the ground, and it was all perfectly legal. … Even when Michigan was able to close off gaps there was usually someone else who wasn't able to hold up and a cutback became available. Both Winovich and Mone got pancaked on the Taylor run that immediately preceded the jet touchdown:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbfAu2CAqgI&feature=youtu.be

 

It's tough to get anyone down in the backfield when the OL is consistently able to reset the LOS a couple yards downfield, or when someone's on the ground.

Jonathan Taylor went for 101 yards on just 17 carries and Wisconsin added two big jet sweeps to rush for an alarming 7.2 YPC, but Paul Chryst went crazy and repeatedly threw on third and three or shorter. It felt like his decision-making bailed Michigan out of what could have been an ugly grinder.

Now Mone is gone. Kemp remains; both of Michigan's other DTs with any experience have been banged up. If Mike Dwumfour is unavailable, Michigan has a choice to make at DT:

  • Play Donovan Jeter and Carlo Kemp on every standard down.
  • Rotate in either true freshmen or 270-pound converted fullback Ben Mason.
  • Slide Kwity Paye or Aidan Hutchinson inside and put Josh Uche on the field.

It won't surprise anyone who's read this site for the past month that its preference is for the Uche option, because the potential for explosive TFLs and passing downs is probably worth the occasional gash.

At least Michigan's losses are offset by some of Wisconsin's. The Badgers graduated four starters, returning just AA center Tyler Biadasz. They do have a second quasi-starter: left tackle Cole Van Lanen played enough last year to garner PFF's approval as a devastating run blocker and, somehow, their highest-graded tackle nationally. That's faintly absurd for a guy who didn't even start but no doubt means something.

The rest of the OL is new, and right tackle Logan Bruss is questionable. There was a clear bifurcation between the old and the new when Seth charted them against USF:

Senior LG Jason Erdmann (+2/-2, –2 protection), who has appeared in 43 games as the "tight end" stuffed into a jersey with a number in the 90s, has been holding a slim lead over former top-150 prospect LG Kayden Lyles (+2/-1, –3 pass pro), who's understandably behind after playing defensive end all last year. Erdmann is a big, stiff piece of farm equipment and little more; Lyles is strong and athletic but popped up often for his limited snaps for allowing pressure up the gut. RG Josh Seltzner (+2.3/-3) is squat and strong but not very athletic; when he makes contact guys move, but he let some quicker players shoot by him. A +0.5 he picked up for tripping then managing to still harass a LB is emblematic of his downfield play. LT Cole Van Lanen (+9/-2, –3 protection) and C Tyler Biadasz (+10.5/-2) are discussed in the dangerman section.

If Michigan can get after the three iffy bits they can make up for some incidents where Biadasz or Van Lanen give Michigan the business.

Michigan does catch a break at the tight end position, where the Badgers will be down three guys. Jake Ferguson is a guy generating a lot of hype after a breakout redshirt freshman year but at 245 pounds is definitely on the flex end of the tight end spectrum. Seth:

The guy I was most disappointed with was TE Jake Ferguson, Barry Alvarez's grandson, who was PFF's top returning TE in the Big Ten. His UFR-style charting had him +4.5/-9 in the run game, and he wasn't even the tight end asked to make the really hard blocks.

275-pound Luke Benzschawel would have given Wisconsin some uncomfortable MEGABEEF options. Bonus OL snaps are a possibility, always.

Michigan is in tough given their DT situation and is going to have to pull some stuff out of Don Brown's bag of tricks. Brown hasn't had to make chicken salad much in his tenure at Michigan but has a rich tapestry of weird stuff he's run through when forced to turn BC, Maryland, and UConn-level talent into success. Uche, Hudson, and Glasgow give him a set of elite blitzers he's going to try to use to mitigate Wisconsin's crunching approach. A lot will hinge on whether Taylor can make the occasional TFL into a chunk play. Survey says maybe.

KEY MATCHUP: SECOND DT-TYPE SUBSTANCE vs UTTER DESTRUCTION. Jeter or Hutchinson or whoever, Wisconsin's going to try to whoop up on that guy.

Pass Defense vs Wisconsin

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Van Lanen will play; will Dwumfour [Patrick Barron]

Michigan's defense had such a successful outing against the Badgers last year because Alex Hornibrook was horrible and also threw two bad interceptions, as opposed to Shea Patterson being horrible and also running for 81 yards on one play. Hornibrook transferred to Florida State, where he is grateful to have not won the starting job, and Wisconsin has turned to Jack Coan.

Coan wasn't supposed to beat out Graham Mertz, the most highly-touted QB Wisconsin has signed in a long time, after a sophomore year in which he thudded to 5.5 YPA and a 5-3 TD-INT ratio on 82 attempts. Mertz completed a fair number of passes; pretty much all of them were at or near the line of scrimmage. Those numbers don't even encompass how bad Coan looked for people flipping through Wisconsin games, or graded at PFF:

So of course he's come out on fire in 2019.

It is possible for players to get radically better, just not the ones you, a Michigan fan, would really really like to. Coan's completing 76% of his passes for 9.6 yards an attempt and while the quality of opposition has been bad the shots downfield have been on point.

One giant help in this regard: the return of Quintez Cephus after he was acquitted of sexual assault charges. Cephus gives Wisconsin a downfield jump ball threat they palpably lacked a year ago and Coan's YPA thanks him for it. He's averaging 19 yards a catch; other UW receivers max out around ten. Wisconsin has also started involving Taylor in the passing game some; he has three easy touchdowns on five catches. The rest of the WR corps is the same as it was last year. They're mostly short, mostly decent, and just guys. Ferguson is a potential exception as a tight end who's difficult to match up with.

Wisconsin was shockingly bad in pass protection a year ago, finishing 104th in sack rate allowed, and they've given up four sacks against weak competition so far. Van Lanen is an okay to good pass blocker and an elite mauler on the ground; meanwhile the right tackle spot is in some flux. Passing downs should be a spot where Michigan can boot UW off the field, as they'll be able to go with their jetpack package and unleash Uche and friends at a relatively inexperienced OL without a true shut-down OT.

Getting there, as always, is the thing.

KEY MATCHUP: CEPHUS vs LAVERT HILL. Surely Michigan will match Hill up against the most dangerous UW receiver by some distance, and surely Wisconsin is going to boot it up to Cephus anyway. Quien es mas macho?

SPECIAL TEAMS

Punter Anthony Lotti returns after a mediocre junior season during which he averaged 38.6 yards a punt; he's added six more this year of about the same length. The saving grace for Wisconsin is that only one of those was returned. Lotti split time with Connor Allen last year so part of this may be on him but opponents got off 17 returns last year for 11.2 yards a pop thanks to a Minnesota TD. They will probably be net losers in a field position battle if Michigan can just field Lotti's punts.

Wisconsin might have kicking issues. Sophomore Collin Larsh is 1/3 on the season and did not get a look last year despite Rafael Gaglianone going 10/17.  Those misses are from 30 and 51, FWIW. His make is from 28.

Wisconsin return units did zilch last year. Tiny person Jack Dunn has been productive on punts so far this year with an 11.6 average on a whopping 11 returns. 11 returns on 17 total punts is a ton; Michigan might give back their punting advantage if they can't contain Dunn with their pro-style approach.  e

KEY MATCHUP:  AHHHH YOU PUT IT THROUGH THE UPRIGHTS

INTANGIBLES

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CHEAP THRILLS

Worry if…

  • Michigan isn't contacting Taylor before he gets three yards downfield.
  • The arc game isn't buying Michigan any blockers.
  • Patterson is exiting clean pockets.

Cackle with knowing glee if…

  • Ruiz, Onwenu, and Bredeson are too much for the Wisconsin DL to handle.
  • Coan evaporates in a pile of last year.
  • Bombs away at Collins works.

Fear/Paranoia Level: 7 (Baseline: 5; +1 for Road Game, +1 for Recent History As Underdogs, +1 for DT Depth Vs Wisconsin, +1 for General Early Season Malaise, –1 for This Is A Super Light/Young UW Front No Matter What, –1 for Paul Chryst Is Probably Going Full Frames At Some Point.)

Desperate need to win level: 9 (Baseline: 5; +1 for League Game, Smoke, +1 for Irritating Stats Can Get Shelved, +1 for I'd Like To Feel Nice And Good Things Sometimes, +1 for Loss In This Game Makes Rest Of Year Look Not So Great)

Loss will cause me to… swear off cheese for upwards of three minutes.

Win will cause me to… climb out of BPONE, at least temporarily.

The strictures and conventions of sportswriting compel me to predict: 

I dunno. Wisconsin's clobbered a couple of really bad teams; Michigan had a weird game against MTSU and a weird game against Army in which they lost all the fumbles and played nothing like this offensive style. Meanwhile Wisconsin has been so unchallenged that a defensive front consisting of no DTs and two DEs has crushed opposition ground games. Pretty much anything could happen.

Both defensive fronts will be challenged to hold their ground and fail in that regard, so it'll be about who's able to cook up the better ways to mitigate that. Michigan has an advantage there since they've got a number of top-end blitz threats and Wisconsin lost their ILBs and has just Baun as an established sort of good rusher. Meanwhile time in the pocket should also favor Michigan.

If Patterson can just keep it together, make the right reads, and not exit the pocket into the teeth of seven guys looking at him Michigan should win this game. He did not do that last year in this game. He did not do that against Army. He has had two weeks to heal up from his injury and get better situated in the new offense. Can he progress?

I don't know that, either.

Finally, three opportunities for me to look stupid Sunday:

  • Coan outperforms Patterson.
  • Charbonnet truth is somewhere in the middle; he plays, but is limited.
  • Wisconsin, 25-23.

Comments

Ty Butterfield

September 20th, 2019 at 3:16 PM ^

I wouldn’t count on this staff taking the weather into account when coming up with the game plan. They certainly didn’t do so before the Staee game in 2017.

dragonchild

September 20th, 2019 at 3:19 PM ^

I would say most of the trepidation for this game isn't really about Wisconsin.  It's about Ohio State.  Michigan absolutely cannot play like they did against MTSU and Army and have the remotest of hopes of beating Ohio State.  The margin of loss has been increasing the past three years, the beatdowns increasingly uglier, and Michigan's coaching looks as dysfunctional as ever.  Not saying they're actually that bad, or if they are that it will stay that way, but reality is that, by design or derp (and historically it's been the latter re: OSU), Michigan hasn't shown anything so far to stop fans from being terrified about The Game.  Whether or not it's there, we can talk about.  But Michigan, as of now, looks like a team that will get vivisected by the Buckeyes.

The "how" is why there's so much BPONE after 2-0.  It's not the fumbles; it's that going back to last year, they're still taking the path of most resistance.  Michigan has fewer athletes than Ohio State and isn't using the ones it has.  The guys that need to get better, aren't, and clear opportunities aren't being taken by the playcalls.  It's going full anti-Moneyball in style that would make the going tough for even Alabama or Clemson, with half the elite athletes OSU's bringing to the party.

So no disrespekt to Wisconsin but their role in this is guinea pig.  A litmus test for the whole season, that "whole season" being OSU.  Michigan needs to win this game to prove they even have a shot; do that and most people will feel better.  OTOH, if Michigan validates everyone's fears that they're going to do things the hard way in the flying face of all reason, avoid favorable matchups, send their players at brick walls and not prepare any answers for what opponents are preparing for them, no one's really going to care about the outcome of this game.  Losing to Wisconsin on the road isn't what's going to send the boards into a tailspin.  I mean, that won't be fun, but the worst is knowing Ohio State -- which hasn't seemed to have missed a beat since destroying us last season -- will devour Michigan with plenty of room for dessert.

True Blue Grit

September 20th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^

Yeah, this is pretty much where I'm at now with this coaching staff.  No more drinking the Kool Aid for me.  I want to see that the team can go out on the road, playing a ranked team, look good, and win the damned game.  I don't look at the MTSU and Army games by themselves.  I look at the body of work by the staff over the last few years.  That's where my BPONE comes from.  Tomorrow, I want to see the team come out playing like, and looking like they're actually well-prepared.  I want to see them not turn the ball over or commit horrible, drive-killing penalties.  I want to see them execute a two minute offense like they actually know what they're doing.  I want to see the coaches not piss away the clock on bad-play calls or make baffling decisions on whether to go for it on 4th or take the points.  I want to see the players not give up no matter what happens.  I want to see the coaches make actual adjustments at halftime so that the team plays better in the 2nd half.  Asking too much?  I don't think so for the amount of money that's been invested in the program over the last 5 years.  Go Blue!

StirredNotShaken

September 20th, 2019 at 9:41 PM ^

Great post. My only problem with it is that, deep down where we're honest with ourselves, I don't think any of us really believe we're close to OSUs level or have much of a chance of beating them this year. So tomorrow isn't really about our chances with OSU this year, it's about where we stand compared to the rest of the Big 10. Can we execute well and in doing so give us optimism heading into PSU, Iowa and MSU? If we win tomorrow I suddenly feel good about those games. It does not change my mindset about OSU though - they are the better team and program. Our chances of beating them this year are slim no matter how well we play tomorrow. 

Glennsta

September 21st, 2019 at 11:09 AM ^

What always gave me some solace going into most big games during the Bo/Lloyd years was the sense that our coaches knew what they were doing with what they had.  I'd base that on the fact that A) our teams always seemed to adjust well at halftime and B) the team improved as the year went on.

I've seen much less of either of those over the past few years.  Coupled with the fact that we seem to be overhauling our offensive scheme damn near every year, I'm losing faith in this regime.  Especially since we are supposedly bringing in top-notch talent.

I can VERY painfully accept getting beaten by teams with way more talent than us but the frustrating part of the past decade has been losing to teams with less talent.  I hope I'm wrong but this is setting up to be one of those weeks.

 

bronxblue

September 20th, 2019 at 3:19 PM ^

This feels about right.  I honestly trust UM's defense more than Wisconsin's right now, but Wisconsin's offense feels more coherent.  That could change of course, but it's going to be a slog.  I do wonder if special team punt returns will matter here; that's an easy way to get 20-25 yards if you can field a ball cleanly in nasty weather and maybe get moving a bit.  

I do believe Michigan will have a more creative offensive scheme for this game than we've seen, and I'm less certain about that from the Badgers.  It might not matter, but this isn't Four Loco Kirk Ferentz calling plays for Wisconsin.

DonBrownsMustache

September 20th, 2019 at 3:28 PM ^

Good summary.  A lot of unknowns heading into this game, so not sure what to expect.  I guess we will find out a lot about this team tomorrow.

VikingDiet

September 20th, 2019 at 10:10 PM ^

I think most people would NOT predict Michigan will play their best game, it has become a theme and central tenant of the pit. I think we win outright on talent and scheme, but it doesn't just come to that. It's execution, by players and coaches, both of which seem to consistently lack for Michigan as of late (and not just this year)

unWavering

September 20th, 2019 at 3:38 PM ^

I really disagree with the Desperate need to win level: 9.  

Maybe in terms of the psyche of the fanbase, but this is one of the only 2 remaining games that UM could possibly lose and not really be all that threatening to derail the season.  The other being ND.  I'd put this game more like a 5 or 6.

BuckeyeChuck

September 20th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^

That's true...a loss here and Michigan still has the capability to win every B1G game and enter Nov. 30 playing for the division title. And if the division title is still available, so is the conference championship. And if the conference championship is still available (pending M's result vs ND) so is the playoffs.

It is not at all inconceivable (meaning that it is conceivable) that the eventual national champion will have a single loss from a road game on par with having to go to Camp Randall.

Losing this game removes none of these possibilities. (It only eliminates wiggle room in future contests.)

Mr Grainger

September 20th, 2019 at 3:43 PM ^

Damn you, Brian, getting me all excited thinking Michigan can win and then picking Wisconsin. Still, I can't blame him as Michigan has a narrative it needs to change. No time like tomorrow to start doing that. Go Blue.

Mr Grainger

September 20th, 2019 at 3:43 PM ^

Damn you, Brian, getting me all excited thinking Michigan can win and then picking Wisconsin. Still, I can't blame him as Michigan has a narrative it needs to change. No time like tomorrow to start doing that. Go Blue.

Bodogblog

September 20th, 2019 at 3:51 PM ^

I mean, this is it.  Assuming the weather holds. 

You have to let it all go.  You're not winning the B1G with last year's approach on offense.  Was the lesson of OSU 2018 learned or not?  Shea is a senior, he's been jittery but you have to coach him and let him go.  You can't waste this OL and WR talent.  Harbaugh/Gattis let it go. 

VikingDiet

September 20th, 2019 at 10:22 PM ^

I agree, 100%. I liked when our defense the last few years had that "I'm coming to fuck up your world" mentality. I wish our offense, as a whole, had that mindset, from coaches to players.

I think it's undeniable that harbaugh has changed since year one, though I won't pretend to know what caused it. Fire on the sidelines, bizarre formations, that real fighting dog spirit has been replaced, and we need it back. Unleash gattis, maybe he can reignite that spirit. Give Shea permission to make mistakes. Play every game like your season depended on it!

GBBlue

September 20th, 2019 at 3:59 PM ^

IMHO, this "Shea sucks" vibe is getting out of control. Coan will not outperform Patterson. Maybe we need a reminder that last year Shea had a completion percentage of 64.6, at 8 yards an attempt, with a better than 3-1 td to int ratio. He added 273 yards rushing. Those are good stats. Also as a reminder, other quarterbacks sometimes throw incompletions, sometimes miss reads, sometimes abandon pockets too soon, sometimes abandon pockets too late. Shea's had a rough couple of games (but not catastophic), although we all know he's been playing hurt. I think we should give the guy a break.

MGoBlue96

September 20th, 2019 at 4:05 PM ^

This I agree with for the most part, the only devils advocate point I would bring it up is was last year's conservative approach minimizing the negative gunslinger aspects of Patterson's game? I think the coaching staff has to live with those aspects if it means throwing more TD's than last year by opening it up.

GBBlue

September 21st, 2019 at 3:50 AM ^

Apropos of nothing, what an historical oddity that there was such a thing as a “devil’s advocate”. So, someone in the Catholic Church said, “Hey, you know who’s not receiving due process here? Satan. Satan needs proper representation.” And everyone else nodded and said, “He’s got a point”?

GBBlue

September 21st, 2019 at 3:50 AM ^

Apropos of nothing, what an historical oddity that there was such a thing as a “devil’s advocate”. So, someone in the Catholic Church said, “Hey, you know who’s not receiving due process here? Satan. Satan needs proper representation.” And everyone else nodded and said, “He’s got a point”?

GBBlue

September 21st, 2019 at 3:51 AM ^

Apropos of nothing, what an historical oddity that there was such a thing as a “devil’s advocate”. So, someone in the Catholic Church said, “Hey, you know who’s not receiving due process here? Satan. Satan needs proper representation.” And everyone else nodded and said, “He’s got a point”?

BlueinGeorgia

September 20th, 2019 at 4:31 PM ^

I've been thinking about this for a while.  I think the main issue with Shea (in regards to the passing offense) is his lack of anticipation skills.  We see it in the pocket when he anticipates pressure but it doesn't exist.  When it comes to throwing, he doesn't anticipate his receiver getting open, he waits until he is actually open.  This leads to him waiting an extra second and then bugging out, or he hits someone a little late on a drag route that doesn't allow for much YAC.  When facing a zone, this is pivotal because you have to anticipate when one defender will drop off and the next one will pick up the receiver.  If you miss that window, you won't have anyone to throw to which I feel is why he does so poorly against zone defenses.  All great quarterbacks have that ability and right now Shea is a very accurate passer when he gets the ball out.  The major question he needs to answer is can he lead his receivers open or is he going to make them get quite open before he delivers.

HenneManCrush

September 20th, 2019 at 4:12 PM ^

I've never gotten the "smoke" reference. IIRC, that was listed all last year during conference play as well. I'm usually pretty good at picking this stuff out but this is one of two references which has plagued me. (The other is the Pitbull stuff which has since been explained).

Can anyone help a guy out? What does "League Game, Smoke" mean?

Big Boutros

September 20th, 2019 at 4:26 PM ^

in The Big Lebowski, John Goodman's character Walter Sobchak says this to character "Smokey" during a bowling game. Walter believes Smokey stepped over the line during his turn, which would give Smokey a score of zero for that frame. When Smokey protests, Walter points a gun at him. He justifies his actions by the line above.

jakerblue

September 20th, 2019 at 4:27 PM ^

For this it feels like they have Taylor going for them and that’s about it. They have all the problems on defense that we have but worse. Same pass blocking issues but worse. Same issues with losing important pieces from last year’s team but worse, lost more on the defense and lost outstanding o line. 

 

If our Offense gets its collective head out of its butt and they can hold up decently against Taylor this feels like it should be a win.

Wolverine Devotee

September 20th, 2019 at 4:44 PM ^

I don't understand why you picked us to win on WTKA and then suddenly changed your tune. Might be time for me to stop reading these previews because the end of them never make much sense. 

Blue Vet

September 20th, 2019 at 5:06 PM ^

We've been surprised by Michigan football games. (I was at The Horror.) We've been unsure about the outcome of particular games, or stretches of games. But have we been in such perplexing uncertainty about a game that could range from a rout either way, to anything in between? I'm sure it's happened before. Michigan has played many games. But I don't remember it.

bronxblue

September 20th, 2019 at 5:06 PM ^

I will continue to argue that Army is light years better than anyone Wisconsin has played this year, and I'm a little tired of the "we looked worse against our crap compared to Wisconsin's" when one set has beaten an FBS opponent exactly once in about a year and the other won 11 games and finished ranked.  

DCGrad

September 20th, 2019 at 5:09 PM ^

I think people are reading way too much into the 2 games each team has played. I don’t think they really mean much given Wisconsin played 2 terrible non-P5 teams and Michigan unveiled a new offense in the first game and played a weird opponent in the second. The biggest takeaway from the first 2 games for me is that UM needs to stop beating itself. Both the first 2 games look a lot different without the turnovers and I bet we all feel better about this game if Michigan doesn’t fumble early shading MTSU and Army. 

markusr2007

September 20th, 2019 at 5:39 PM ^

I have a long list of things to do on Saturday.

I probably won't watch the game.

Michigan has not won in Madison since 2001.

I would not be surprised if Michigan won, frankly.

But my feeling is Wisconsin is a better football team than people are willing to admit.

They crushed very bad football teams. Michigan has not/did not.

That's the difference. 

Gattis needs time for this scheme of his to mature and gel. And time is something Michigan just doesn't have with this year's schedule.

We already know Gattis is not the great play caller from Alabama or Penn State.

It was more Locksley, not Gattis.Harbaugh now knows this.

 

Wisconsin 24, Michigan 17

BlueHills

September 20th, 2019 at 5:44 PM ^

I wouldn’t worry. Michigan’s strategy of fumbling just enough to make the games interesting, keep the fans in the stands and the TVs tuned in until the end of the game worked really well!

It’s all part of the master plan. Michigan 38, Wiscy 27. 

Steve-a-wolverine-o

September 20th, 2019 at 6:02 PM ^

This feel like the too close to call game that comes down to which group of teenagers/young men do less stuff that falls in the category of mistakes and fuck ups. Somehow I feel that whichever team gets out to the big fuck ups first, there will be a non-reversible head of momentum which will lead to a blow out of someone tomorrow. I’m not super sure about Wisconsin but I know that our Wolverines are totally capable of taking Wisconsin to then tool shed (and being taken to the tool shed). 

 

Remember that Penn State game (I think Penn State) where we had a kickoff return for a TD. Then shell shock. Then a blowout.