|01/07/2019 - 11:01pm||Players bolting, coaches…||
Players bolting, coaches bolting...something's up. Sigh, BPONE
|01/02/2019 - 10:26pm||Great discussion and an…||
Great discussion and an awesome read.
But, with opposing players and many others saying they knew pretty much what Michigan was going to run, my opinion is that teams are in our huddle already.
|01/02/2019 - 9:40pm||For that many players to sit…||
For that many players to sit, there's something going on inside the program. We just don't know what it is.
We may have an inkling. It may have to do with injuries, or being "hurt" versus "injured", or losing a spot in the lineup due to injury, or by not playing hard enough in practice.
My guess, which doesn't mean shit, is that Harbaugh's intensity comes across as browbeating players for not playing "hurt". I could see that creating these kind of hard feelings.
|01/02/2019 - 9:36pm||Right with you....been doing…||
Right with you....been doing it for years.
|01/02/2019 - 9:25pm||Nominating this for greatest…||
Nominating M-Dog's post for greatest post ever.
|01/02/2019 - 9:22pm||He sure as hell hasn't …||
He sure as hell hasn't "fixed" the defense in big games at the end of the season.
Not buying this take.
|01/02/2019 - 9:18pm||Back under Bo/Mo/Carr, we'd…||
Back under Bo/Mo/Carr, we'd always lose game we had no business losing.
Now, we can't hardly win a game against superior or even on=par talent.
|01/02/2019 - 9:12pm||Oh, how fun that would have…||
Oh, how fun that would have been to see. But nope, not under this staff, not ever.
|01/02/2019 - 9:06pm||Could be a touch of yellow…||
Could be a touch of yellow fever, but that woman is alright :)
|01/02/2019 - 9:02pm||Not to mention, better, less…||
Not to mention, better, less stubborn, defensive coaching. So sick of the "we'll do it our way, even if it doesn't work" attitude.
|01/01/2019 - 11:24pm||It totally makes sense that…||
It totally makes sense that WRs will leave. Why would they stay to get under-utilized? I don't need insider info to know something is clearly fucked up, but this take does seem to confirm it.
I don't know....Pep is "passing game coordinator" and our passing game has looked broken since he's been here. So that -- plus the fact that he's washed out everywhere he's been -- is the easy, obvious answer.
But JH is an intense personality, and it's pretty obvious he's over-the-top about turnover avoidance above all else. So that could be trickling down, making the offensive coaches question their own input on the play-calls. Hell, it's looks to me like it's made it down to all of our QB's, resulting in the tentativeness and ball-patting and late throws we are all seeing.
|12/31/2018 - 1:32am||Interesting topic here....
Interesting topic here....
I have to say I don't know why I care so much about M football. But I do, and that's why these 10-win seasons, while nice on the surface, are just so damn frustrating. That has been rehashed a million times, so I'll leave it there.
I'm a Lions fan (nominally) too, but when the Lions suck, I can still watch the game and be somewhat entertained, or at least be able to say, "well, no big deal". I can't do that with Michigan games. When I see Michigan have trouble, I literally have to turn off the game. I have so much stress over the games that I just can't watch them live. Why the HELL is it this way? Why can't I manage to re-calibrate my expectations for this team? I have done it for all the Detroit teams, as we are in a horrible period for Detroit sports in general.
Pisses me the hell off. If I could just enjoy our consistent 9-10 win seasons, I'd be much happier in the fall.
|12/30/2018 - 7:33pm||JH doesn't need to be fired…||
JH doesn't need to be fired.... IF he cedes control of the offense to an innovative OC AND puts pressure on Brown to practice and play with multiple looks or shitcans him.
Fundamentally, though, he ain't getting fired. Not for a 38-14 record and a clean, shiny program. This is what we are until Jim retires or leaves on his own.
At this point, I wouldn't mind him going to the NFL.
|12/30/2018 - 7:21pm||You need Jimmystats for this…||
|12/30/2018 - 7:08pm||Right now, we are somewhere…||
Right now, we are somewhere between 10-20 in the country. We may be ranked a bit higher due to reputation.
Some of our players are better than that, but our coaches, as configured, are a bit worse than that. And our scheme is abyssmal.
|12/30/2018 - 6:27pm||Phrasing? Nick Stauskas…||
Phrasing? Nick Stauskas would like a word.....
|12/29/2018 - 7:55pm||Agreed, Warde Manuel is not…||
Agreed, Warde Manuel is not the guy that's gonna make that happen.
|12/29/2018 - 7:50pm||Not to mention, Warde Manuel…||
Not to mention, Warde Manuel has seemingly been an uninspiring AD. Anyone out there really think he has what it takes to get in Harbaugh's ear about a new OC?
|12/29/2018 - 7:03pm||Yes. and Yes.||
Yes. and Yes.
|12/29/2018 - 6:54pm||Exactly correct. I won't…||
Exactly correct. I won't watch a Michigan - OSU game or bowl game until this craptastic coaching staff shows some innovation in a big game.
On the other hand, we are good for 9 or 10 wins most years with this staff. That's not horrible, but it's not great either. It's just kinda there. With this staff it'll be pretty clear when we have a decent chance to win, because they will never get this team to win a game they aren't expected to. At least we'll know when to watch.
|12/20/2018 - 8:06pm||"too far along the pendulum"…||
"too far along the pendulum" is absolutely the issue. It's fine to have a clock-control, turnover-minimizing philosophy, but when it becomes detrimental to the functioning of the offense, it's a problem. That detriment isn't just the play at hand, either. I think Shea showed trouble with aspects of the passing offense because he didn't have enough in-game reps on it. If you don't throw deep much, you're going to have trouble with throwing deep. If you're not asked to read defenses in the mid-range pass game, you're going to struggle there. Overall, I see Shea's difficulties at the end of the year as partially stemming from a lack of use, especially in big games against talented defenses.
"Keeping the Ferrari in the garage" is a perfect analogy. It's gonna run a bit rough, unless you take out on the highway enough.
|12/11/2018 - 8:46pm||Not sure when people will…||
Not sure when people will realize that while our coaching is "good", it's certainly not elite, and not even second-best in our own division. Meyer recruited at a CFP level and had great offensive and defensive coaches. D'antonio always does more with less. We have Harbaugh, who is good and will lead us to 9- and 10-win seasons, but we have average-at-best offensive coaches running a neolithic game plan that gets even more conservative in big games. We have a DC who pummels lesser talent but has no schematic answer for the better teams.
Add to that OSU's talent edge and their laser focus on The Game, and we're not beating them anytime soon -- unless their coaching turnover doesn't go well for them.
For the record, I think winning 10 games is pretty nice, because 5-7 was awful. But this staff isn't beating OSU unless their staff's ability decreases.
|12/10/2018 - 1:55am||Unpopular opinion, I guess…||
Unpopular opinion, I guess....
If you're hurt and you're trying to rehab for the combine, I get it, you sit. No problem with Gary sitting at all.
But if you're not hurt, I say you play for your team and your program, and for your brothers, the other players that fought with you all year. It will help Michigan if we win this game, and hurt us if we lose. The Jake Butt situation is a tragedy, but there are insurance policies, right? And it's not like everyone has career-ending injuries in bowl games....
I just totally disagree with the mindset.
|12/10/2018 - 1:40am||Warning, BPONE ahead....
Warning, BPONE ahead....
I really thought we started to turn the corner when we opened the offense up a bit in mid- to late-season. But, nope, turtle city in the biggest games. The bowl game is a big game, so I fully expect a boring, ineffective offense, keeping our playmakers in neutral. Not sure why we do that to ourselves, but it is what it is.
We may win, we may lose, but it's going to be frustrating as fuck. Not sure why anyone thinks this will change. This is Harbaugh. Ten wins is the ceiling....a nice ceiling to be sure, but the ceiling. We're Iowa with better personnel.
Oh, and don't be too surprised if our playmakers entertain the idea of transferring....why the hell would a 4 or 5 star receiver come here so they can block while we throw to TEs? Why would a top ranked QB come here? I swear our QBs come here and after a year they can't throw the damn ball. My own uneducated opinion is that they have the fear of the INT drilled into them, so they can't just use the natural talent they have. Especially with our D, throw the damn ball. Whatever happens, happens.
|12/02/2018 - 12:49pm||I understand the comment,…||
I understand the comment, but I don't think an offense is serviceable if it doesn't show up in big games. Yes, I know we scored 39 against OSU, but there were tons of wasted plays and BS, and we could have done more in the passing game. As the game unfolded, it was obvious we needed to open it up, and we didn't.
Set aside for a second that this is the most boring and obvious offense in recent memory, Pep's work doesn't pass the eye test. It's all been said, so no need to rehash individual points, but it's pretty obvious the offense requires innovation.
|12/02/2018 - 12:42pm||You know what would be great…||
Great game yesterday!! GO BLUE!
|12/01/2018 - 9:02pm||Not in big games it isn't…||
Not in big games it isn't....we save our frippery for teams other than OSU.
That's what kills me....we ran a more sophisticated offenSe for the PSU game. What was needed was more of that against OSU, not less.....
Yeah, it may not have worked....it may have caused us to lose.....uhh, wait....
It may have caused us to lose by a bunch.....uhh, wait.....
It may have gotten the QB hurt....uhh, wait.....
Yeah, but it may have given us a chance to keep up....
TL;DR Turtle time does not belong in big games.
|12/01/2018 - 7:34pm||We had a lot of that this…||
We had a lot of that this year and kept most of it on the shelf. Don't get your hopes too far up in a JH offense.
Big problem, I think, is you're going to see our best skill guys bolt as soon as they can.
|11/28/2018 - 9:11pm||I love the analogy. To me,…||
I love the analogy. To me, it seems like they are running their Ferrari in first gear, because they are totally uncomfortable with going over 35 mph.
The pain of this team is that, for some reason, they will not (a) use the weapons on offense to their full potential and (b) exploit another team's deficiencies, rather being content to "do what Michigan has always done".
|11/28/2018 - 9:03pm||I promise I'm not being…||
I promise I'm not being intentionally sarcastic here, but if Michigan passed the ball to the middle of the field more often -- or just passed more in the games -- this play may have gone better. You can't get great at something if you don't run it consistently, and in so many games this year, we only passed when we felt we had to. It's like, "oh, all right, fine, we'll pass".
|11/28/2018 - 8:59pm||This is the best description…||
This is the best description of Michigan's offensive problems -- and perhaps of Ohio State's mindset -- that I've read on the site this year. Concise and to the point. Great read for sure.
|11/27/2018 - 12:56pm||Yep, even though I'm not a…||
Yep, even though I'm not a football coach, it doesn't seem too hard to say, "that worked, let's do more of that."
JH is our best hope as coach for the foreseeable future, but our FB program is limited by his stubbornness and dinosaur philosophy. We're Iowa, with better personnel. Going forward, 10-win seasons will be common, but we will not beat OSU or similar elite teams without them taking a step back. Now there's really no argument. Nothing gets "held back"....nothing gets "saved". As a matter of fact, we get more conservative and more predictable against the better teams -- absolutely the opposite of what it should be.
That's the most frustrating part. I know of no other program that (a) has the talent to be better and (b) makes a conscious decision to ignore that to play football what it considers the "right" way. It's almost unbelievable.
For the basketball program, it's "Win the Game"....adapt to your personnel....change the strategy. That's why John Beilein is light-years ahead of JH as a coach.
10-win seasons are awesome, but we've hit our ceiling. Is there a better coach out there for us that would come here? Especially after what we did to Rich Rod? I don't think so....
|11/25/2018 - 7:41pm||Disclaimer: Jim Harbaugh is…||
Disclaimer: Jim Harbaugh is the best *head* coach for our program right now. Firing the head coach and starting over is a ridiculous idea that would set our momentum (and yes, we have momentum) backward with no guarantee of greater success. So that's a stupid idea, and not what I advocate.
Ok.....well, this is what it is, folks. We're a 9-10 win program that's clearly a notch below our biggest rival. The talent of our players is somewhat below that of OSU. As far as the defense, it *seems* that coaching isn't the main issue, though the stubbornness to change does hurt us. Nope, our D ran into superior athletes executing a gameplan designed to attack our weaknesses.
The issue is offense. This was innovation versus stubbornness. Plays designed to attack a defense's weaknesses versus "we're gonna do what we do, and run with that." Yeah, we scored, but we needed to score more. Harbaugh needs to hire an innovative OC, so ready the money cannon, Warde. If he doesn't, this is what we will be. 8, 9, 10 wins, beating MSU a fair bit, but not beating OSU.
Also, there's this. It's clear that OSU has been looking ahead for how long, a month? All season? They plan around beating us, and it seems we treat it as another game. They come out fired up to the max and play their best game of the season, and we play......normal, I guess is the best way to say it. And you know, their way is better. Our rivals get "up" to play us more than we get up to play them. Is that the NFL bent of this coaching staff? Or is that just Michigan....I dunno.
TL;DR -- Offensive innovation needed, or else this is what we have. It's not bad, per se, but that bad taste every damn year is hard to take.
|11/23/2018 - 10:33pm||"Well, I guess there's just…||
"Well, I guess there's just one thing left to do."
|11/23/2018 - 2:22pm||Higdon runs, Shea throws
Higdon runs, Shea throws
Bucknuts D crumbles to dust
The leaders and best!
|11/23/2018 - 12:41pm||Won't get a better chance…||
Won't get a better chance than this to beat OSU in their house. It's on the OL, on Shea, on Higdon, on the receivers. Most of all, it's on the offensive playcalling. Have to release the hounds a bit from the jump. If we turtle, we die. We're gonna have to score to win, as they will for sure.
38-35, either way. Hoping it's the good guys.
Oh, and please let the kicking situation go well.....
|11/18/2018 - 11:44pm||Fuck this fucking fuck, Full…||
Fuck this fucking fuck, Full stop.
(Of course, this refers to Meyer.....)
|11/18/2018 - 9:37pm||not me -- I meditate and…||
not me -- I meditate and make it go away.
|11/18/2018 - 1:36pm||So all Nordin needs is…||
So all Nordin needs is glasses with a little skull on them? #wildthing #hesstillshitty
|11/18/2018 - 12:37pm||Nope, still BPONE, road game…||
Nope, still BPONE, road game against the bad guys.
|11/18/2018 - 12:15pm||This should by all means…||
This should by all means happen. Visually awesome. There's probably too much hate in this rivalry right now for it to work.
|11/18/2018 - 11:45am||I also am so damn proud of…||
I also am so damn proud of our team!
I have been the epitome of BPONE for a long time because of this team, but they have done a damn good job this season. I finally feel like we have the horses (especially with Shea at QB) to be on par athletically with most of the teams in the country. A top Big Ten QB, a deep group of solid receivers, a couple good TEs, an NFL-caliber RB in Higdon and another RB who runs with aggressiveness in Wilson, an above-average Big Ten OL, and another monster Don Brown defense. This should be the expectation going forward -- playing for the division title in the Ohio State game.
I predicted 8-4 or 7-5, and I was totally damn wrong, and I'm happy to say that. Beating Wisconsin, Penn State, and MSU feels awesome. Chapeau to the team! The bowel-shaking nervousness of watching games live is somewhat mitigated now.
I still have BPONE for The Game though, but that's for another thread. DVR engaged.
|11/04/2018 - 10:51am||This is one game where I…||
This is one game where I hope we pass minimally and just bang away. We have a bunch of RBs that could use more game work for next year. I would like to see Black catch a long TD though. We owe him one!
|11/04/2018 - 12:27am||I'm so happy to be wrong.
I'm so happy to be wrong.
This offense is progressing and looks great. Ask yourselves how many times we could have hit that deep ball to Black. It was probably there most of the game. Sure, there were some shit calls and the offensive explosiveness is clearly being held back in favor of suffocation, but it's there. And it'll need to be against OSU. That's a game where the ball-control gameplan may stutter and we'll need to score points. Seems like we can.
The offense is certainly better than LSU. We belong in the top 4.
|11/01/2018 - 7:59pm||Gunga Ga Lungala!||
Gunga Ga Lungala!
|10/21/2018 - 7:50pm||Seems like the Lions have…||
Seems like the Lions have found a running game. Could be decent things coming.
|10/21/2018 - 6:27pm||It doesn't matter....Sparty…||
It doesn't matter....Sparty already considers this game their Super Bowl. They are obsessed with M all year anyway. Might as well bring the swagger.
|10/21/2018 - 12:02pm||Scary stuff....
A few comments....
Shea is probably still learning the read they want him to make at the mesh.
He's probably still being coached to give most of the time, so it looks like he doing extra checks to make sure.
Defenses have seen this so much now that the option players are getting better and better at that "shuffle" technique discussed on the site to make the QB's decision difficult.
I really hope Shea comes back for one more year -- this offense has a chance to be special with him.
|10/21/2018 - 11:56am||I agree here...it seems like…||
I agree here...it seems like he's thinking too much out there. Of course you have to think and analyze, but you also have to trust what you're seeing and let fly. This offense would progress near the level of the defense if we could hit slants and crosses - and utilize the RBs in the passing game more - with consistency.
That being said, I am wrong about this team. They are at a different level than previous Harbaugh teams here. It's so satisfying to watch a well-blocked pass play resulting in a absolute dime to a WR down the field. We have the potential to do great things, assuming we can maintain our intensity for the rest of the gauntlet.
And I'm happy to be wrong.
|10/21/2018 - 2:09am||SIAP: Rashan should backup…||