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01/16/2019 - 8:57pm Thanks for this, it's great…

Thanks for this, it's great.  When I watched the two matchups (UM vs OSU) from '17 versus '18 we scored more points, had more passing yards, and had more rushing yards in '18.  Patterson was way more effective than JOK.  However, watching both games it appeared that we did a better job of keeping OSU off guard than we did in '18.  I still don't understand why that is or am I just crazy in that idea?  What is different about how we played the two games?  Even in '15 Ruddock seemed to be more effective, as was the play calls, at least while he was upright.  Am I crazy in this idea?  Or maybe ultimately it just comes down to the simple fact that we can't run the ball on OSU and we don't have a Haskins that can carry the offense even without an effective running game.

01/16/2019 - 2:51pm I really hope that any…

I really hope that any player UM ever recruited, was a top 300 recruit, or plays a position of interest that enters the portal does not become news.  I may have already lost this.

01/16/2019 - 2:05pm Interesting, albeit not…

Interesting, albeit not surprising for a Texas kid.  I think conventional wisdom was expecting a Texas school or Maryland, but lots of TX kids go to OU.

01/16/2019 - 7:35am I don't blame him and I'm…

I don't blame him and I'm sure it has to be frustrating for him, but boy the way he handled his business on Twitter was not only terrible but also a bunch of bold faced lies.  I would never trust a guy that goes to those lengths to say what he's going to do and call out others who then subsequently does the opposite.  That is not a good sign for a guy's values.

01/14/2019 - 3:19pm It's time to reclaim our…

With all these young active recruiters I think it's time to reclaim our rightful spot as the top recruiter in the Midwest/North.  

01/13/2019 - 10:39am So, if I'm reading into this…

So, if I'm reading into this, you're saying our d-line coach needs to have OH roots in order to recruit the state well since we lost Washington?  If that's the case I would stay away from anyone with OSU ties (Rodgers) that Day may try to poach the minute they prove their chops.

01/12/2019 - 8:54am What if you get a first down…

What if you get a first down every play, then what's the best sequence? 

01/11/2019 - 4:49pm I think it's a combination…

I think it's a combination of being early, not lot of obvious holes for early playing time, and a bit of a face dive to finish the year. At some point in the very near future we need to sell more than hope of winning B1G titles and beating OSU to land some top and/or out of region players that have other options that don't have UM ties. 

01/10/2019 - 6:45pm Yay, a top recruiter who is…

Yay, a top recruiter who is young, provides some ethnic diversity, worked under Moorhead, and has recruiting connections in the south!

01/10/2019 - 2:43pm Tell that to Yasiel Puig (6…

Tell that to Yasiel Puig (6'2" 240)

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01/10/2019 - 2:10pm He wants to transfer for one…

He wants to transfer for one reason...he wants playing time.  The rest is just an excuse.  I highly doubt if he was playing and loved UGA he'd bolt over this.

01/09/2019 - 8:22pm Thanks for the support of…

Thanks for the support of the content.  I did re-join today, but not for this thread.  I have been a member since '08 and my account was deleted because I posted a thread that Yoder was reporting Washington to OSU.  I was not happy about it hence my new username.  

01/09/2019 - 4:21pm I think if he winds up in…

I think if he winds up in the B1G it would be more likely at Maryland as Locksley worked at Bama the past two years.  IMO that's a real possibility.  But, he's also originally from TX so TCU & Houston seem more likely landing spots, but with Sumlin at Arizona now I could also see that.

01/09/2019 - 4:16pm Pretty cool and well played…

Pretty cool and well played by your friend.  I can't imagine how many emails JH must get.  On a somewhat side note, I know JH is a Bo disciple and all, but who'd think a former QB would want to just run the ball up the gut and not have a wide open throwing offense?  He was Captain Comeback after all.

01/09/2019 - 1:12pm At the time he was taking a…

At the time he was taking a promotion as Okla offered him the d-line position in addition to the associate head coach title as well as a pay upgrade if I'm not mistaken.

01/08/2019 - 9:28pm In all fairness OSU's…

In all fairness OSU's situation had nothing to do with poor treatment of players.  In fact, a whole slew of current and former players have given Meyer support and he appears for all intents and purposes, well liked by his players.  Granted, I think he has some character flaws, but most of his criticism is actually more towards supporting star players when do wrong rather than give them poor treatment.  It does however support the idea that he has far too much power to be able to cover stuff up.

01/08/2019 - 9:13pm I have been a member on this…

I have been a member on this board for a decade and someone deleted my old username because I posted a thread citing James Yoder who reported Washington to OSU last week.  Turns out he was correct.  I was not happy about getting my username deleted hence my new name, so yeah eff whomever made that choice.

01/08/2019 - 7:22pm No, I'm against a guy…

No, I'm against a guy getting a job that can't recruit.  I'm making an assumption about what his age & ethnicity means about his recruiting ability which is 100% an unfair hot take, but just playing the odds here.

01/08/2019 - 7:14pm First off, I'm sure we feel…

First off, I'm sure we feel comfortable with promoting either Partridge to LB coach and/or sliding Bush into Patridge's spot or give Bush the LB spot, but at a lower salary than Partridge, right? 

 

OK, so we're just looking for a new d-line coach then another analyst to replace Bush.  After a quick google search for 247 top recruiter rankings and looking at d-line here's what's there...

 

Tray Scott - UGA d-line coach ($420k) - Probably can't lure him away

Ikaika Malloe - Current UW d-line coach ($355k) - Can we lure away and/or does JH have any ties from his west coast time?

Dennis Johnson - LSU d-line coach ($200k) - I'm sure we can match salary and that would be a great place to have recruiting ties.  Plus he's young and has ethnic diversity

Terry Price - T A&M - D-ends coach ($500k) - Not sure we'd match that salary

Sean Spencer - PSU d-line coach (can't find salary)

01/08/2019 - 6:52pm Almost 60 year old white guy…

Almost 60 year old white guy who hasn't recruited since the mid-90s?  Admittedly without know anything about him other than being a UM grad, I'm not a huge fan of the lack of youth or ethnic diversity unless he's a much better recruiter and better at relating to HS kids than his book cover would indicate.

01/08/2019 - 3:50pm So, Hinton & Smith are a…

So, Hinton & Smith are a threat to start over Dwumfor, Kemp, and/or Jeter right now as well as Hill over Hawkins, JKP, and/or Woods.  I'm OK with that.

01/08/2019 - 3:17pm Are you saying you'd prefer…

Are you saying you'd prefer to poach a successful small school position coach or DC (and hope a raise and move to a major program entices them) over holding out hope we can find someone with blue blood or NFL experience and "ties" to the program or coaches?

That's a good question and I'm not sure I have a preference.  I have seen examples of a number of success stories at OSU with non-P5 coaches.  Tressel is another good example.  Vrabel didn't have any coaching experience prior to joining OSU and now he's an NFL HC.  I've also seen what I consider highly successful HC's from other schools come to UM and fail to be as successful as many expected (Rich Rod & JH).  Someone at OSU is using some metric to evaluate these guys that works for them and is less successful for us at UM.  I wish I knew what that was, but I can't say I do. 

 

I get the feeling the whole "Michigan Man" thing and the idea that we can to stay in the Bo coaching tree has limited to us some degree.  I think UM needs to deviate from that and get someone that can develop a new identity for UM in order to get to the next level.

01/08/2019 - 2:13pm Does anyone else have…

Does anyone else have serious concerns about hiring a bunch of old BC position coaches that have not made a name for themselves elsewhere?...can we not attract some top names instead of guys with "ties" from middling program in an area not known as a talent hotbed?

I think there are plenty of guys that if given the opportunity at a P5 blue blood can be very successful that have yet to get that opportunity.  Ryan Day is one who was at BC & Temple.  Al Washington was another that came out of that BC coaching tree.  For better or worse, the DB coaching tree is based out of the Northeast.

 

The problem is that young up and coming position coaches at other blue blood programs are looking to upgrade to a coordinator position, not a lateral move to another position coaching position at a different blue blood school.  Why would for example a d-line coach or LB coach at Clemson, Bama, UGA, etc. come take the same job at UM?  You'd have to go below that level such as an analyst or GA, or non-P5 position coach.  After that you're looking for guys that either were a part of another HC's staff that got fired, picking off an NFL guy you have ties with, or looking for an older guy that wants to rejoin JH and/or has UM ties.

01/08/2019 - 1:47pm I'm not sure our preferences…

I'm not sure our preferences have any relevance, but the likely candidates to replace Washington seem like Bush or someone else that worked under Brown (assuming he's staying) like BC LB coach Sherridan who also has some UM ties.  For Mattison replacements that have been said are Duke co-defensive coordinator, Ben Albert, who also used to coach with Brown as his d-line coach at BC.  The main question for these guys to me is their recruiting prowess.  I'd rather poach someone out of Texas, Florida, Georgia, or California with recruiting ties down there, but maybe Albert has built some in the NC, which is a pretty good state for talent as well, although a difficult draw from Clemson.

01/08/2019 - 1:07pm This is unfortunately the…

This is unfortunately the business.  It was his job to recruit kids to UM while he was here.  He did that, even if he would have preferred to be at OSU all along.  That's sales 101...highlight the benefits (of UM) and minimize the weaknesses.  That doesn't mean he didn't secretly like OSU better all along, he just never revealed that side of his personal preference during his tenure at UM or to recruits.  But, given the opportunity to go to where he preferred...it would be silly not to.  Just as it would be silly not to accept the offer to coach at UM just because he loves OSU.  I'm sure he would have taken the OSU job over the UM one had both been offered last year.  His love for OSU didn't prevent him from doing a good job for UM, it just meant he would be a potential flight risk down the road should the opportunity come up.  JH had to know this and hired him anyways.  I doubt many would have expected that opportunity would come this quickly, but it is what it is.  This is the real world beyond our fandom.  

01/08/2019 - 11:34am I love how I posted this…

I love how I posted this very same thing under a different user account a few days ago from a different source and my old username was deleted.  Hmmm...