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01/14/2019 - 4:31pm I disagree with the…

I disagree a little bit with the assertion that the 1980 seasons "convinced Bo to open things up".

Anthony Carter arrived in 1979 and started as a true freshman, and really opening things up because he was lightning in a bottle. Something no one had seen at Michigan. The last great receiver at UM before this was WB Jim Smith on end-around plays and buck counters, and Michigan was a 98% option team in 1973-1976.

It was the 1979 season itself that convinced Bo to evolve and pass more, though Michigan started passing a lot more starting in 1977 with Rick Leach and talented WRs like Ralph Clayton and TE Doug Marsh and SE Curt Stephanson.  1977 was the year college football started to see the rise of innovative passing attacks at Washington State, BYU, Stanford, Washington and others, while Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan and USC were still throttling opponents on the ground.

Yes, Michigan lost Rick Leach to graduation, but 1979 had Michigan with returning very experienced backup BJ Dickey (great passer in HS, but utilized more as quick option runner at UM), John Wangler (injured in 1977 with pinched nerve in neck) and then true freshman sensation Rich Hewlett.

The 1980 season was impressive for the UM passing attack because of Wangler's accuracy and his more perfected timing with Carter, as well as a tough screen game. Wangler was not as good of an option QB as Dickey. On the edge no one could adequately cover Carter, even with double-coverage tactics.

Truth is, Bo was so convinced to open up the passing offense from the 1980 season that in 1981 he started sophomore QB Steve Smith, the No. 1 college QB recruit in the nation in 1980, and soon moved Hewlett to DB.  Dickey, a 5th year senior, did not start, and served as backup QB and holder. The 1981 Michigan offense with QB Steve Smith was essentially a full blown return to the Option I attack of the 1970s that Bo so loved, because Smith was a very quick and also tough runner, and very talented at operating the triple option reads and breaking tackles. Smith was the second coming of Rick Leach basically.  Like Leach, Smith's passing as a sophomore left a lot to be desired, but it improved gradually in 1981 and subsequent seasons.  But Steve Smith's legs kept Michigan in the option offense groove until Jim Harbaugh became in the starter in the 1984 season.

 

 

01/14/2019 - 4:31pm I disagree with the…

I disagree with the assertion that the 1980 seasons "convinced Bo to open things up" a bit off.

Anthony Carter arrived in 1979 and started as a true freshman, and really opening things up because he was lightning in a bottle. Something no one had seen at Michigan. The last great receiver at UM before this was WB Jim Smith on end-around plays and buck counters, and Michigan was a 98% option team in 1973-1976.

It was the 1979 season itself that convinced Bo to evolve and pass more, though Michigan started passing a lot more starting in 1977 with Rick Leach and talented WRs like Ralph Clayton and TE Doug Marsh. 

Yes, Michigan lost Rick Leach to graduation, but 1979 had Michigan with returning backup BJ Dickey (great passer in HS, but utilized more as quick option runner at UM), John Wangler and then true freshman sensation Rich Hewlett.

The 1980 season was impressive for the UM passing attack because of Wangler's accuracy and his more perfected timing with Carter, as well as a tough screen game. On the edge no one could adequately cover Carter, even with double-coverage tactics.

Truth is, Bo was so convinced to open up the passing offense from the 1980 season that in 1981 he started sophomore QB Steve Smith, the No. 1 college QB recruit in the nation, and moved Hewlett to DB.  Dickey did not start, and served as backup QB. The 1981 version of Steve Smith was essentially a full blown return to the Option I attack of the 1970s that Bo so loved, because Smith was a very quick and also tough runner, and very good at operating the triple option reads. Smith was the second coming of Rick Leach basically.  Like Leach, Smith's passing as a sophomore left a lot to be desired, but it improved gradually in 1981 and subsequent seasons.  But Steve Smith's legs kept Michigan in the option offense groove until Jim Harbaugh became in the starter in the 1984 season.

 

 

01/14/2019 - 2:21pm Please do the 1977 and 1978…

Please do the 1977 and 1978 teams as well with guests.

I am particularly interested in knowing more about:

1977 Season:

  • The No. 1 ranking pre-season and the slow start.
  • Beating the brakes off of No. 5 aTm in Michigan Stadium with chorus from 100k fans of "We're No. 1!!"
  • How in the world could Michigan get shut out at Minnesota? Mobile QB in Wendell Avery and tailback Marion Barber and PK Paul Rogind. Locker room after? Week of practice after? The natural grass lore was B.S. Michigan trounced Purdue 40-7 in West Lafayette that year.
  • Curt Stephanson had some great catches that year as Michigan's SE.

1978:

  • Beating Notre Dame 28-14! They had the students on the field pre-game. WTF?
  • Loss vs. Michigan State at home 14-24.
  • Beating Woody third straight time. Ohio Stadium experiences/reactions?
  • Rose Bowl "Phantom Touchdown". How annoying was OJ Simpson at NBC really?
  • TE Doug Marsh would be a great guy to interview here, IMO, and Rick Leach, Russell Davis, Harlan Huckleby, Roosevelt Smith.

 

 

01/14/2019 - 2:10pm That 1980 Michigan team was…

That 1980 Michigan team was only 5 points from being 12-0, and the Harry Oliver FG was absolutely divine intervention for the Sugar Bowl bound Irish that year. 

The Notre Dame team was 9-0-1 and ranked No. 2 before losing 3-20 vs. USC, and sort of backed into the Sugar Bowl somehow at 9-1-1 and ranked 7th.  The Sugar Bowl should have selected No. 3 ranked 11-1 Pitt with Dan Marino instead because Hugh Green+Rickey Jackson vs. Herschel Walker. Really a dumb decision.

Although that 1980 South Carolina football team had Heisman Trophy winner tailback George Rogers, that 14-17 defeat in Michigan Stadium was a really "bad loss". South Carolina finished the season 8-4 and was obliterated by USC (that USC), Clemson and Pitt in the Gator Bowl, though they did play Georgia tough in a 10-13 loss in Athens.

Correction on the 1980 Cal game. That game was NOT played on natural grass, but rather right in Michigan Stadium on Tartan surface.  That 1980 Cal team was terrible (3-8).  The 1980 Cal @ Michigan game highlights are on Youtube: https://youtu.be/aF2bfe3Wty4.

The 1979 Michigan @ Cal game was tougher. Call was unbeaten going into the Michigan game at 3-0 and almost ranked themselves. But Cal lost to Michigan 10-14 and that game was played on natural grass. Cal was a better team in 1979 (6-6) because they had Rich Campbell and star running back Paul Jones and were more balanced. Lost to Temple in 1979 Garden State Bowl though. Ouch!

 

 

 

 

01/10/2019 - 4:15pm Meh.

Sounds like Doug…

Meh.

Sounds like Doug Nussmeier, Version 2.014

I don't know man.  Maybe this time around we should all just wait a little bit until all of the facts come out? 

Is this a better hire than the underwhelming one of the 8-8 2015 Indianpolis Colts OC and 1-15 2016 Cleveland Browns OC and QB Coach Pep Hamilton in 2017?  Answer: No.

It's not like we have a choice as fans anyway, but we already seem to be investing in the wishful thinking once more that:

1. one year as Co-OC at perennial wholesale recruiting violator and juggernaut Alabama indicates future great OC coaching and recruiting performance? I don't see any evidence for this about Gattis.  (Recency bias, Halo Effect, and Doug Nussmeier Effect)

and

2. Joe Moorhead's aggressive offensive play calling mentality hopefully rubbed off sufficiently onto this guy's cerebral cortex. This is certaintly possible, but there's no way of telling.  

Reality is Gattis has no significant track record of success as an OC at all in any significant capacity. 

However, he's probably an above average to excellent WR coach.   But Michigan already has one of those in Ben McDaniels.

Oh well.

 

 

01/09/2019 - 1:30pm News around town is he's…

News around town is he's going to Auburn to replace Jarrett Stidham.

That would be something.

01/08/2019 - 1:50pm G Gary Grant or F Thad…

G Gary "The General" Grant, G Antoine "The Judge" Joubert, or F Thad Garner.

01/08/2019 - 12:45pm Interesting tidbits about…

Interesting tidbits about Middle Tennessee - head coach is Rick Stockstill - former Seminole QB under Bobby Bowden in the 1980s. OC is Tony Franklin of Auburn fame (spread option offense) and the DC is the infamous Scot Schafer! MTSU has been a good team in recent years and finished 8-6, but they lose a lot of senior talent this fall and will be a younger team next year.

Army is a different story. They are young, fast and loaded with experience all coming back next fall. They finished 11-2 and almost beat Oklahoma in overtime in Norman. Triple option flexbone attack, dangerous QB Kelvin Hopkins.  Cadets lose FB Darnell Woolfolk (885 yards) to graduation. But the biggest difference with Army is that this version plays defense. Michigan should win this game at home, but it could be a shootout too.

 

01/08/2019 - 12:39pm Goddammit man, why do we…

Goddammit man, why do we continue to whine so much? Nobody cares.

Michigan was 7 pts from beating Notre Dame.  Army will be good and a tough opponent next year.

Michigan doesn't need marshmallow opponents to wipe their ass with.

When Michigan finally wins a BIG10 title and beats Ohio State and MSU on the regular, then yes, the Wolverines can begin to schedule body bag games versus Mercer and Stony Brook and against the Presbyterian Blue Hoses to come to Ann Arbor for an Apocalypto-esque sacrifice scene at the 50 year line before 16th century Spaniard Conquistadores roll up in their cutlasses on State.

 

01/08/2019 - 12:31pm No.

It all comes down to…

No.

It all comes down to recruiting and not losing what they have. Getting rid of Grinch was a good thing. Mattison and Washington are grade A talent recruiters. Smooth as silk.  Parents want their sons to play for such coaches.  And they are solid coaches in their own right.

Urban Meyer's ring & bling filled hand-shake will always be available to close the deal on any fence-sitting big 5-star recruit visitors whenever needed.

Ryan Day has Kevin Wilson at OC and has just hired a young, underrated QB coach in Shippenburg State's Mike Yurcich.  Yurcich is also a solid QB recruiter as well, and a Pennsylvania native who is going to give PSU fits on the recruiting trail.

So Urban is leaving Ohio State in very good shape and in capable hands of, young and experienced knights of the realm.

I am sure Harbaugh and Michigan have good replacements in mind, and hopefully will go a similar route of mixing youth and experience and recruiting prowess in the replacement coaching staff selection process.

 

 

01/08/2019 - 12:13pm So Baumgardner and Michigan…

So Baumgardner and Michigan fans here think:

a. Harbaugh sucks because he doesn't run enough tempo

b. Harbaugh sucks because his and Pep Hamilton's play selection is too conservative and/or not flashy enough.

These allegations seem long on vague cosmetics, short on specifics.

In football when you execute an offensive play well enough across the offensive personnel, you simply don't have to be elegant and flashy and take high risks in order to win a lot of football games. Clemson's offense last night was not earth shatteringly different from things we saw Michigan doing.

Ohio State didn't beat Michigan by being less conservative and more risk taking in the play calling arena.  Ohio State beat the brakes of Michigan by scouting the ever living shit out of them down to a T, identifying talent and speed mismatches, attacking those mismatches and weaknesses with a customized game plan and offensive attack, and then succeeding in executing and sustaining blocks to near perfection, with little resistance or counter from UM. Ohio State also made fewer costly mistakes on both sides of the ball.. 

Michigan could have done things very differently, and could have surprised Ohio State by doing things they hadn't shown all year - like going no huddle high tempo, running zone read option plays and keepers, spreading out 5 wide, attacking the middle with TEs and the edges with screens.  Michigan tried many of these things during the game, but Ohio State was not surprised. They seemed prepared for it.

Ohio State beat Michigan again by superior scouting, scheme, talent and execution. But most of all just talent.  Michigan was not a healthy team, and it was not a comparatively talented team to Ohio State.   That can change with recruiting, but it's not looking good right now.

01/08/2019 - 11:59am This is really dumb.

This is really dumb.

Michigan was nationally relevant most of the season. They got beat at Notre Dame early, trounced at Ohio State and basically imploded at Florida, and finished 10-3 and won a share of the Big10 East division title.

Most Michigan fans were elated with Lloyd Carr's 9-3 season average, as long as it included beating Ohio State and MSU. And they still use Lloyd Carr years and Jim Hermann as DC as the measuring stick. 

Harbaugh has done a good job here, considering where Michigan has been.

The negative Nancy boys here need to stop eating soy.

01/08/2019 - 12:47am Not a good sign.

Thought he…

Not a good sign.

Thought he was very happy at Michigan.

But not only was he not happy at Michigan, he is apparently happier with the idea of leaving and going to Michigan's top rival for his final coaching years.

Wow. Just wow.

 

01/07/2019 - 9:37pm Trevor Lawrence was the No…

Trevor Lawrence was the No. 1 QB in the nation, No. 6 all-time in 247 Sports's short history.

No. 1 ranked QB in Georgia.

https://247sports.com/Player/Trevor-Lawrence-61350/

A true freshman.

01/07/2019 - 7:39pm Mike Trgovac

Mike Trgovac

01/01/2019 - 12:36pm Not entitled. Just wanted…

Not entitled. Just wanted Michigan to beat Ohio State this year.

I didn't really care about bowl games, etc.

But hey, there's always next year, right?

 

12/22/2018 - 2:41pm A real Michigan football…

A real Michigan football helmet with Wolverine helmet awards and a No. 7 home blue Michigan football jersey.

12/17/2018 - 3:58pm What's that sound?

What's that sound?

12/17/2018 - 2:26pm Yeah, yeah, yeah....but can…

Yeah, yeah, yeah....but can he play defensive tackle?

12/17/2018 - 2:26pm My balls really hurt you…

My balls really hurt you guys.

 

12/17/2018 - 2:24pm And now woefully undersized.

And now woefully undersized.

12/17/2018 - 2:20pm Gentlemen, so tell us how do…

Gentlemen, so tell us how do you like your testicles?

A. Epically dropped-kicked on a Monday afternoon with malice aforethought?

B. Traditional Dolphin-punched?

C. Three Stooges circular wind-up then Dolphin-punched?

You must choose.

 

In other news, What.In.The.Fuck!???

 

 

12/14/2018 - 1:29pm Michigan's football program…

Michigan's football program will never reel in the number of 5 star players each year enjoyed by football teams like Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia (4 five star recruits in 2019!), Clemson, etc. Not anymore. Not with the stuff going on out there required to pull that off.

That said, I think Michigan recruits remarkably well in football. The UM football facilities and coaching staff are both very good. They also develop the 3 and 4 star athletes as well as, or better than, other teams across the country.

The ongoing frustration is that Michigan fans have to reconcile Michigan's rather inconsistent recruiting classes under Harbaugh with those of its rivals - like Ohio State, for example, and even Penn State.  The talent gap net of NFL departures and player attrition versus Ohio State is significant, and obvious on the scoreboard. 

So UM fans have to reach the acceptance stage of the grief cycle about their favorite football team.

Michigan is no longer the dominant Bo team of the 70s. No longer the powerhouse of the 90s and early 2000s either. Those days are over forever. Harbaugh is inching Michigan closer to being consistently very good.

Michigan football is now good. Consistently good. Sometimes very, very good.  But I don't believe Michigan can be consistently Elite level.

What are the reasons for this? I don't pretend to know. But it seems like there are multiple factors affecting Michigan disproportionately:

  • Incessant negative recruiting?
  • Higher admissions standards?
  • Roster depth and competition?
  • Freshman playing time promises vs. having to earn it concerns?
  • W-L record?
  • Losing streaks to rivals?
  • NFL placements?
  • Bowl performances? 
  • Anti-UM media bias conspiracy?
  • Cash payments, tats and dealer auto-lease specials?

It reads like a list of excuses, but it's not like Michigan's coaching aren't trying hard to overcome objections and sell the tradition, experience and value prop of UM.

UofM empirically and qualitatively blows the doors off of Alabama, OSU, Clemson, Georgia, etc. in most to all academic aspects, so that's a major competitive advantage.

Right now 247 has Michigan's 2019 class ranked 11th, Notre Dame's ranked 10th and Ohio State's ranked 9th. Michigan previously had a high top 10 class in the works.

Also, don't look now, but Nebraska and Purdue are 4th and 5th respectively in their BIG10 class rankings - well ahead of Wisconsin.  Brohm and Frost are doing very well on the road selling what they have.

 

 

 

 

12/07/2018 - 10:05am If they take Rutgers,…

If they take Rutgers, Maryland, Michigan State and Jim Delany with them, then DONE DEAL!

12/04/2018 - 2:00pm Well Michigan did lose at…

Well Michigan did lose at Northwestern last year 52-61, over a week after beating them in Ann Arbor 58-47.

Northwestern's Taylor + Pardon+Law combination has been a real bright spot for the Wildcats this season.

Still, their loss at Indiana last week was really bad. Really bad.

12/04/2018 - 1:17pm Wow.

Helps with continuity…

Wow.

Helps with continuity I guess.  And I am sure Day is a great coach. He is also young and experienced, which helps with recruiting, etc.

But this is a giant step down from Urban Meyer across the board in my view. Hopefully Day is able to keep Schiano and Kevin Wilson onboard.  See no reason why not.

People here need to understand that Day played starting quarterback for Chip Kelly UNH 1998-2001, starter in 2001, when Kelly was the OC there.  The "hurry up" spread option offense is in Columbus to stay.

12/04/2018 - 12:57pm 7-6 overall, 4-4 in…

7-6 overall, 4-4 in conference both years.

Most notable games were upset win over No. 9 USC 37-31 in 2014, almost knocking off No.1 Florida State in Tallahassee 17-20, and losing by 1 pt in OT to Penn State 7-6 in NY bowl game.

Other than that, typical Steve Addazio snoozer seasons.

12/04/2018 - 12:52pm Which one? Mike, Mark or…

Which one? Mike, Mark or Bobby?

12/04/2018 - 12:50pm RIP Student Body Right And…

RIP Student Body Right And Fight On

12/04/2018 - 10:10am He will be back. Athletic…

He will be back. Athletic Director role.

12/04/2018 - 10:07am You are just now figuring…

You are just now figuring this out?

ESPN is BS for a lot of reasons already. This is just one thin, butt hair of another reason.

12/04/2018 - 10:04am Social Justice Warriors are…

Social Justice Warriors are undefeated against Urbz.

12/03/2018 - 4:57pm I disagree.

Alabama,…

I disagree.

Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson are the top teams in college football right now. And Notre Dame finished unbeaten.

The rest of the teams out there had their shot and failed.  This year there is no controversy regarding the entrants in the Final 4.

That's boring to some people I guess.

I look at it this way - It could be a helluva lot worse. 

And so yes, we should probably all chip in to send Jeff Brohm and Nick Holt Christmas gift baskets.

12/03/2018 - 4:50pm Meaningless is may not be…

Meaningless is may not be the right word.

I just feel indifferent about it.

First, let's stop pretending this is interesting. The Peach Bowl was and still is the historical armpit of college football bowl games. It used to be played on New Year's Eve.  This year 29 December (a Thursday afternoon). Atlanta. Mercedes-Benz/Falcons Stadium. Dumb.

Second, if Michigan wins, nobody is going to care because this is a 9-3 Florida team and the SEC's 5th best team that finished tied with the likes of Kentucky (9-3), LSU (9-3) and aTm (8-4).  Florida lost to Kentucky, Georgia and to 8-4 Missouri.  They also played purported football games against teams called Charleston Southern University and Idaho University.  So this is why no one will care about an 11-2 victorious Michigan team, honestly.

Third, if Michigan loses, it will just reconfirm the ongoing ESPN and negative Nancy rhetoric that Michigan can't win big road games, SEC > BIG10, Michigan is still a reconstruction project, Harbaugh "ain't got it together yet", UM should run a spread offense too!, Mullen owns Michigan, etc., etc.  The same old horseshit.

It's not a game that will help tip recruiting UM outcomes one way or the other. That would have been two weeks ago. It does afford Michigan players some more practice time, which is good for next year, I suppose.

So no. It is not meaningless.

It is just boring as hell, and largely unimportant.

The Fiesta Bowl are going to regret their decision to take UCF vs. LSU. Should have taken Michigan.
 

11/30/2018 - 5:04pm Harbaugh fires Pep Hamilton,…

Harbaugh fires Pep Hamilton, then hires Indiana OC Mike DeBord to replace him..

DeBord unlocks 2008 Capital One Bowl playbook, shows it to Harbaugh. Rainbows and golden sunlight emerge from the pages.

This day, Ann Arbor, 30 November 2019: MICHIGAN 47, Ohio State 43

Rick Stockstill applauds.

Brian Cook's head asplodes. 

 

11/29/2018 - 6:26pm Or maybe the NCAA, if it…

Or maybe the NCAA, if it were not already heavily peppered with SEC lackey bureaucrats and lacking wholesale organizational integrity, could just enforce the current 2018 recruiting rule book it took years to document after the 1970s Oklahoma, MSU, Washington, 1980s SMU, Oklahoma again, Alabama, USC, UCLA, Washington again, UNC and Miami recruiting scandals and slap trespassers around who don't comply with penalties that mean something.

Let's assume a horrible scenario: Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, MSU, Wisconsin and Iowa areall caught red0handed paying players and their families with under the table cash money, free lease cars from dealerships, benefits, tattos, what have you, etc.

If they all get fined, docked scholarships and levied championship game and bowl bans by the NCAA, does the NCAA care if, as a result, it is Northwestern as the BIG10 championship at 9-4 or 8-5?

Does the NCAA care if a bunch of 5-star players end up at Minnesota and the Gophers then go 11-1 in 2020?

Fact is, the NCAA is corrupt to the core. It's no accident that that the SEC and ACC conference teams are perretting into the final 4 every year. 

the NCAA doesn't want its own goddamned recruiting rules enforced.

A lot of people forgot what Alabama was all about before Saban arrived in 2007: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2720980-college-footballs-biggest-scandals-since-2000

It's still a pit of serpents: https://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/06/alabama_reports_22_ncaa_minor.html

 

 

11/29/2018 - 4:32pm Man, student body right is…

Man, student body right is dead as a door nail now.

11/29/2018 - 2:58pm (No subject)

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11/29/2018 - 8:53am Whatever they did, it didn't…

Whatever they did, it didn't help.

Good news is that it is nothing that can't be decisively righted with better recruiting.

11/28/2018 - 1:55pm It's going to be young and…

It's going to be young and less experienced next year.

But comparatively pretty talented.  Adding Daxton Hill (S) and Jalen Perry (CB) to 2019 class certainly fortifies the secondary. But M probably needs some more high-talent bodies in those spots.

11/28/2018 - 11:48am You all know damn well where…

You all know damn well where we are. We are in double h, e, hockey sticks.

So it will be the Peach vs Floriduh.

Or UCF.

This is our lot in life.

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11/27/2018 - 7:27pm UCF is getting the 1974…

UCF is getting the 1974 Dennis Franklin collar bone treatment, I see.

11/27/2018 - 7:27pm This kid dominated at LB for…

This kid dominated at LB for Michigan.

Probably the quickest, hardest hitting LB at Michigan sideline to sideline since Ron Simpkins.

11/27/2018 - 5:05pm No way does Patterson leave…

No way does Patterson leave early.

Brohm is meeting with Louisville right now, so yeah: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/report-louisville-ad-purdue-coach-jeff-brohm-meet-about-vacancy-decision-expected-soon/

6 bucks and my left nut says Brohm takes Brian Brohm (Purdue OC) and Nick Holt (Purdue DC) with him to Louisville.

He gone. Purdue is going to be gutted.

 

11/27/2018 - 1:41pm I find myself already…

I find myself already thinking of next year's game in Ann Arbor against Ohio State.

That entire 2018 Buckeye defense returns intact, plus add in any very high talent redshirts and true frosh into the rotation.

On offense they lose big play H-receive Campbell, X-receiver McLaurin, G Knox and OT Prince.  Everyone else is back, including receivers KJ Hill and Benjamin Victor replacing McLaurin I think.   So no downgrades. Just reload. Prince was a liability for them all year anyway, except in THE GAME of course.  His replacement will probably be an upgrade.

Michigan's offense is pretty much returning intact.  Higdon is gone, but they have Evans returning and stable of RB talent already plus new kid freshmen.   JBB needs to be replaced at RT, but Steuber is the heir apparent already. So pretty much returning intact offensively, which is great.

Defensively, Michigan has to replace Mone, Gary, Winovich, Kinnel and and Devin Bush. Don Brown has done a good job of creating a monster defense from a hodge-podge of players.

Comparatively, Michigan has a lot more chambers to re-load than Ohio State does.  There is a significant talent deficit still, but this year's Michigan recruiting class looks very good compared to Ohio State's (thus far)

So one can surmise that Ohio State is going to be even better next year. Michigan should be very good also, but with a lot of new folks on defense.

 

11/27/2018 - 1:02pm I am convinced that Michigan…

I am convinced that Michigan's receivers were not doing enough to get open against the OSU secondary.  That has been a problem all year long.  And that's frustrating because of who the WR coach is, and given the talent level of Collins, Black and People-Jones plus the senior "TE with the untimely dropsies" and a mobile Shea Patterson scrambling around - that's all extremely difficult to defend even on a good day.

Michigan played flat from the get-go in this game. And nothing demonstrated this DeBordian approach better than last Saturday's playcalling by Pep Hamilton.

The good news is that there is no fucking way Harbaugh can look back at the last four losses to Ohio State COMBINED with this recent 23 point shellacking and believe things can continue just as they have. 

The defense gave up 62 points because the offense refused to do what it does all year - imposes its will along the line of scrimmage, sustain long drives, convert on 3rd downs, score TDs and dominate TOP.

Harbaugh's traditional manball philosophy can definitely work. But you do need superior OL talent and experience across the board.  I think next year Michigan returns everybody across the front 5, and will probably have the best and most experienced OL in the league, if not the country.  The thing Michigan missed this on year was TEs that could catch and block reliably. McKeon and Gentry were both consistently subpar in both departments.

 

11/26/2018 - 5:52pm Michigan versus Cajun Hoke …

Michigan versus Cajun Hoke (LSU) or bust!

We've never played those kittens so, yeah. It's time.

But six bucks and Steve Spurrier's right nut says we're playing Floriduh instead. 

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11/26/2018 - 4:12pm The harsh reality is that…

The harsh reality is that when it comes to college football recruiting, Michigan is not even in the same solar system as Ohio State.

It is very easy to see how not only the gulf of talent first formed, and how difficult it is to re-gain ground on it.  But you can also imagine how immense delta in roster talent affects everything from weekly football practice, game preparation, regular season outcomes, The Game outcomes and post-season outcomes.

The Ohio State football program consistently has more, very high talent players in the rotation than Michigan has.  I don't know about Ohio State's attrition level compared to Michigan. It may also be quite high of washouts.  But net-net, given their starting lineups there is no comparison.

From the past 9 seasons, Michigan had a top 5 recruiting class twice. Ohio State has had 6.

Source: 247 College Football Team Recruiting Class Rankings

2011: (Tressel)  6th ranked class (two 5-stars)      M (Hoke): 30th (0 5-stars)

2012: (Meyer)   5th (two 5-stars)                          M (Hoke): 6th (0 5-stars)

2013: (Meyer)   2nd (one 5-star)                           M (Hoke): 4th (one 5-star, Derrick Green)

2014: (Meyer)   3rd (one 5-star)                            M (Hoke): 20th (one 5-star, Jabrill Peppers)

2015: (Meyer)  7th (one 5-star)                             M (Harbaugh): 37th (0 5-stars)

2016: (Meyer) 4th (one 5-star)                              M (Harbaugh): 8th (one 5-star, Rashan Gary)

2017: (Meyer) 2nd (five 5-stars)                            M (Harbaugh): 5th (two 5-stars, Peoples-Jones, Solomon)

2018: (Meyer) 2nd (three 5-stars)                         M (Harbaugh): 22nd (0 5-stars)

2019*: (Meyer) 12th (two 5-stars)*                          M (Harbaugh): 8th (one 5-star, Hill)*

*-as of 26 November

 

11/26/2018 - 2:20pm Another way to look at it:…

Another way to look at it: Biblical

The Significance of 39 Lashes (Roman centurions gave Jesus 39 lashes)

Moses' Law refers to flogging.

The law itself means forty lashes less one, or 39 lashes.

The term was meant to be a biblical one in that 40 lashes are what was determined enough to kill a man according to the Old Testament.

Thus 39 lashes was the most you give a man without declaring a penalty of death.

Confirmed. We are in a living hell.

11/26/2018 - 2:10pm Full disclosure:

I watched…

Full disclosure:

I watched the game and all commercials until it went 7-21 Ohio State.

Then I turned off the stream in frustration. Grabbed some ice water. Went outside and cleared brush and did other yard work.

I got a shit-ton done too.

I resisted checking my phone for a long while, and then said to myself "fuck it!".  Score: 19-24 at half or something like that.

"Hmmmm".

I kept working, pulling out dead tree stumps, chainsawing the shit out of stuff, changed the oil in my motorcycle, spent some time with family and friends outdoors.

I checked my phone again. Ohio State 55 to WTF????

I laughed out loud and shook my head.

It was just too fucking ridiculous.

And yet somehow the sinking feeling in the chest was all so familiar.

It felt miserable to see that score, but I am so glad that this time my senses were correct and that I decided not to sit through that torturous sequence of events on screen.