And so it begins - the NFL Draft opt-outs from bowl season are heating up

Submitted by oriental andrew on December 11th, 2023 at 10:51 PM

Just saw the news that Drake Maye is now opting out of UNC's bowl game. 

This follows Sam Hartman (notre dame) and Caleb Williams (USC) also opting out of their bowl games. 

We also have Laiatu Latu (DE, UCLA),  Brenden Rice (WR, USC - Jerry Rice's kid), Ainias Smith (WR, TAMU), Max Melton (CB, Rutgers), 2 safeties and a DT from Miami (FL), CB/LB/DT from Clemson, Chop Robinson (DE, PSU), Braelon Allen (RB, Wisco), and a bunch more I didn't feel like naming. 

This site seems to have a good running list: https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/2023-college-football-news-tracker-bowl-opt-outs-player-injuries-transfer-portal-more

Main questions are if we see any significant opt-outs from teams like ohio state and Georgia who are out of the CFP. Depending on who opts out, could get pretty ugly for the buckeyes combined with all the kids already in the transfer portal. Harrison, Egbuka, Stover, Tuimoloau, and Burke are all projected by various mocks as potential first-rounders. 

cheesheadwolverine

December 12th, 2023 at 9:21 AM ^

For more short term money.  It may be a monetary disaster in the long term.  How many people watch AAA baseball or the G League or the AHL?  Or for that matter the USFL or XFL? Somewhere in the neighborhood of zero.  People might always watch their alma maters, but if college football becomes the-NFL-but-worse its hard to see it sustaining the current level of interest.

ESNY

December 12th, 2023 at 9:40 AM ^

  Bowl season is over with a playoff.  CFB is just the NFL starting in 24'.   Money took a unique product and trashed it for more money.   

This has never made any sense to me.  Even before BCS and the CFP, 95% of all bowl games meant jackshit. You had at most three (being generous) bowl games every year that could impact national title hunt.  The rest are pretty much the same as they always were.  If you aren't amped up for the Citrus Bowl this year, you certainly weren't any more amped up in 1995

 

 

Buy Bushwood

December 12th, 2023 at 10:03 AM ^

It's a confluence of factors.  Some bowls were still interesting match-ups, and had historic conference ties.  For me, it's these factors that have my interest waning:

1. Loss of the integrity of historic conferences (therefore no B1G/PAC12 champion match-up)

2. Great players starting to sit-out (beginning with Christian McCaffery sitting out of the Depends Bowl) like 8 years ago.  

3. Increasing number of playoff teams, leading to increasing broadcast coverage of nothing but the playoff contenders.  

4. More shitty bowls and thus shittier teams making bowls.

5.  Loss of the original names of bowls in favor of changing corporate names.  

While none were as definitive as the new playoff will be at completely turning bowl season into dogshit, each of these factors, IMO, have contributed to a steady erosion of the experience.  

 

 

trueblueintexas

December 12th, 2023 at 10:13 AM ^

There are some big and subtle differences. 

 - There used to be far less bowls which meant earning a trip to one really was an honor. You had to have had a pretty good season. When a team is winning, it's easier to want to keep playing. 

 - Kids did not get to travel as much before. That has largely changed. It's not as exciting for a 19-20 year old to get to go to California or Florida when they have probably already been there a few times vs. when it was going to be their first time. 

- All of the swag and experiences which were unique are now common. Before recruits are even on campus, they get decked out in all the latest school's gear and shoes. Their dorm rooms, locker rooms, weight rooms, meal table at their schools are better than most of the hotels they will stay at now. Michigan goes on a weeklong trip together as a team now in the summer. While I think that is awesome and should continue, it also diminishes the importance and value of going on a weeklong trip for a bowl game together as a team. 

- NFL evaluations are much more in-depth now. The bowl game used to be your last showcase to improve your draft stock. Now someone playing at an FCS or Division II school will get scouted just as much as the #1 pick at the top school. There's no value in making that one last impression. 

I could keep going. As you can see, many of these changes have resulted in things being better for the student-athletes. That's a good thing. 

I think the new way fans need to look at bowl games, for every team not in the playoff, it is a chance to see what next year's team will look like. In essence, it is a winter scrimmage game against an actual opponent. 

Don

December 12th, 2023 at 10:13 AM ^

"You had at most three (being generous) bowl games every year that could impact national title hunt."

Thank you. The notion that the BCS and now the playoffs have killed off all the bowl games that aren't involved in determining the national champion is revisionist history on steroids.

IMO what's prompting the bowl-game opt-outs are the truly life-changing amounts of money that are theoretically now available for the taking by college players.

If a player comes from a family that isn't wealthy and has reasonable prospects of getting drafted in an upper round, it's understandable that he would be hesitant to jeopardize his chances of obtaining generational wealth by playing in one last game.

That doesn't mean such fears are justified by the data, but that's a different argument.

yossarians tree

December 12th, 2023 at 1:47 PM ^

Yeah, most of the bowls are meaningless money grabs and the thing is, most of the money is coming from TV. Except for the top bowls, the stadiums are half empty and most of those tix are giveaways. I understand that a lot of people will watch a meaningless bowl game on Wednesday December 20, but unless it's Michigan, that ain't me.

WestQuad

December 12th, 2023 at 7:35 AM ^

We criticize Ryan Day for being soft, but money makes people soft.  It is the "right decision" for players with a lot of money on the line to sit out bowl games.  See what happened to Jake Butt.   But here's the thing, Jake Butt isn't soft.   He went out and played the game because football is about being tough and beating your opponent.   All of the money (and emphasis on the National Championship) has turned tough college kids into Roger Dorn from Major League.  Dorn was afraid to make an effort to make a play for a ball because he could get hurt and screw up his endorsements. 

If you don't remember Major League, we like Roger Dorn after he starts putting in the effort. (and after he forgives Wild Thing for shagging his wife, but I don't know what the moral is there.)

GLORY

December 12th, 2023 at 8:12 AM ^

It wasn't about being soft or tough with Butt.  He played because he was genuinely passionate about the game and representing Michigan.  I remember him talking about it before the bowl game. He made it sound like it was an easy decision.  I had so much respect for him.  Then I watched the play unfold and I couldn't believe what I was seeing.  I've never felt so bad for someone that I've never met.  And thought, just a meaningless game that ruined the kid's career.  So sick.  Ironically, this also made him a legend.  Karma has a way of coming back.

NeilGoBlue

December 11th, 2023 at 11:28 PM ^

Not only has he said it publicly, he says it privately. I've had conversations with him.  He believes that his commitment to play in the bowl game and what happened to him cemented his 'lore' with Michigan Fans and fans in general in the midwest.  That it has benefited his post football career greatly. He has no regrets and would do the same thing again. 

(I'm using my words to recreate what he said)