Goodbye: 2020 DT Denver Warren
Apparently there aren't enough DT slots for the 2020 class?
November 5th, 2018 at 11:37 AM ^
I honestly don't know the answer to that. Recruiting is a cruel world.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:08 PM ^
Come on man, just say you don't know.
Adam Biggers wouldn't know something like that.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:06 PM ^
Hi umbig11
Are you Adam Biggers?
umbiggers11
November 5th, 2018 at 12:15 PM ^
Will you stop this?
If umbig11 wanted to tell you whether he is Adam Biggers or not, he would have done so by now.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:20 PM ^
If he wasn't Adam Biggers he would have said it.
He is Adam Biggers.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:36 PM ^
I am Adam Biggers
November 5th, 2018 at 12:47 PM ^
No, I am Adam Biggers.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:32 PM ^
Thanks so much for the valued insight. I still this means we are good with Harrison & Karlaftis though.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:35 PM ^
Looking at Max Preps he recorded stats for all but 3 games, so while not dispositive it does match up. I sort of hope the reality never comes out (because it's really nobody's business why he left the class), but it would make sense that a kid a year+ out decommits from a top-4 team.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:11 PM ^
Why do you think they're pulling the scholarship? His tweet said he decided they have too many DE's on the roster. Sounds to me like he doesn't want to compete for a spot on the 2 deep.
Edit: nvm just saw umbig11's post
November 5th, 2018 at 12:26 PM ^
Not sure how Harrison and/or Karlaftis come into play here as they are 2019 in class ahead. Unless it will just we amount of total DL around his recruiting year.
Frankly @ 6'1" and 318lbs he seemed to fit that NT niche better than most of our other DL recruits that were 6'4"-6'7" so I'd assume it was something else other than class numbers.
November 5th, 2018 at 1:02 PM ^
Off the field issues with Denver has lead to Michigan moving on from him. Nothing to do with Harrison!
November 5th, 2018 at 2:52 PM ^
Does this mean we're getting the pitch forks out again??
Time to rev up the #fireharbaugh train?
November 5th, 2018 at 3:11 PM ^
This is a take that comes up from time to time since Erik Swenson's offer was essentially rescinded prior to the 2016 signing day, and it's usually wrong.
It seems pretty clear Harbaugh's offers, especially to lower rated players, are contingent upon roster, grades, team needs, and continued improvement on the player's part.
If Warren was meeting all the criteria he would remain in the 2020 class. If Harbaugh thought he had a gem in Warren he would remain in the class. He's not remaining in the class. It will be OK for all parties involved. He has the entire 2020 recruiting cycle to find a proper fit and if he's a kid and recruit worth having, he will.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:00 AM ^
Not sure what that means. That could just be his opinion or reason he came up with for decommitting.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:00 AM ^
Interestingly enough he cited specifically that we didn't have room on the DL for 2020. Are there any recruits for the DL that we are in on that we favor more? or is it that our depth is unexpectedly better than anticipated? Strange turn of events.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:08 AM ^
Rashan Gary coming back for two more years. Please.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:11 AM ^
Gary only has one more year of eligibility.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:20 AM ^
That 5th year he’ll be that unknown walk-on Gashan Rary.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:24 AM ^
Obvious joke was obvious.
November 5th, 2018 at 11:09 AM ^
Whoosh...
November 5th, 2018 at 12:37 PM ^
Sarcasm meters are on sale at Amazon as part of their Black Friday sale.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:12 AM ^
We have at least 3 inside guys coming in 2019 which could be discouraging him
November 5th, 2018 at 10:13 AM ^
If you consider Chris Hinton probably slides inside,
and that Cole Brevard is high on the want list,
maybe that did it.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:02 AM ^
Perhaps a decent sign that we may be taking multiple highly sought after dlineman for 2019 that have silently committed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
November 5th, 2018 at 10:03 AM ^
I’m going to choose to believe this is because Gary is returning for his senior year.
Yes I’m aware that does not affect the 2020 scholarship count. He’s coming back LALALALALA
November 5th, 2018 at 10:03 AM ^
its a bit odd...2020 seems way out there to projecting position numbers...?
he's the only DL commit for 2020 currently
November 5th, 2018 at 10:20 AM ^
This is both a good and bad thing-mostly bad for Mr. Warren. There are several high ceiling "projects" in the 2018 & 19 classes. If Harrison and Karlaftis end up blue too...a 2020 kid, likely, does not get to see the field early. But otherwise...???
November 5th, 2018 at 10:27 AM ^
i guess?
you still need to restock 1 every year you'd think however... because injuries happen and/or kids don't turn out... or do turn out but leave early... Michigan takes a DL in 2020 for sure be it Warren or someone else
i would have guess him RS his first year anyways and if not, just limited time getting in all the off the field work.
oh well, good luck to him... i was pretty excited for him
November 5th, 2018 at 10:05 AM ^
Just further confirms the fact that there is no science nor rhyme nor reason to the recruiting thing. I love this kid's upside-he would be a beast for Michigan. Alabama's bagmen must have pooled their resources. Maybe he will return to his senses.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:07 AM ^
Rocky mountain goodbye, Denver Warren
November 5th, 2018 at 10:08 AM ^
Is the Zach Harrison Hello post being prepped? Sorry to see Denver go. We love you Denver! City by the Bay! (Blades of Glory reference)
November 5th, 2018 at 10:09 AM ^
Good Luck Denver, hope you find the right fit.
If not come on back, we'll be going 12 deep on the Dline next year.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:10 AM ^
Im guessing the coaching staff cooled on him because he has been very pro michigan and I think even visited recently. Very strange.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:12 AM ^
Coincidently, Steve Wiltfong flipped his crystal ball for Zach Harrison to Michigan.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:13 AM ^
Maybe this is the new way Harbaugh and co. are being up front with recruits that they are not wanting anymore?
Rather than just completely ignore them hoping they decommit (bad) they say there are not enough spots at their position (better)
November 5th, 2018 at 10:14 AM ^
It's weird to decommit two years out for fear of space, but I wish him luck regardless. Hope the coaches didn't push him out; that's not cool.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:26 AM ^
This has to be a good sign for Harrison, paired with Wiltfong's CB. As a 4 star Warren must want to play right away and do the 3-and-out Rashan Gary thing. If it looks like he won't see the field that much in 2020 and could potentially redshirt, that means he'd need to prove himself an NFL prospect in just 2 years.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:32 AM ^
He basically implies that the staff told him there's no room at the inn any more; i.e., he was "processed."
November 5th, 2018 at 10:41 AM ^
If you want to beat Saban, you have to operate like Saban.
November 5th, 2018 at 12:02 PM ^
If we were like Saban, we would have kept him and grey shirted him.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:52 AM ^
I am always excited for any player that commits to M, but noticed with Denver that his (admittedly early) player ranking had been sliding from high 4-star to 3-star before he even committed. Maybe he was one of those early developing kids?
November 5th, 2018 at 10:41 AM ^
Not to sure how I feel about this seeing as we are only in 2018 and the 2019 class is not even signed yet. Weird shit I tell ya
November 5th, 2018 at 10:42 AM ^
Bummer. Looking forward to following his accomplishments on TTB. Good luck young man.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:45 AM ^
We need to get some big wr’s in the coming classes. Not too much from the senior or junior class at all and I’m afraid of the trio going pro after next year. I don’t recall us having any big time wr commits since
November 5th, 2018 at 11:11 AM ^
Ironically, Holloman a former commit is tearing it up at Georgia lately. He fits the mold you were describing. I think he decomitted over a year out too.
November 5th, 2018 at 11:52 AM ^
Holloman was same class as Black/DPJ/Collins. I also would like to see some more size at WR for when those guys leave.
November 5th, 2018 at 10:58 AM ^
While there are a ton of DL players in the 18 and 19 classes you still need to take a DT every year IMO.
So this could have come down to a lot of things. The coaches being very open with him about the DL numbers(still odd to pull a 2020 offer when so much could change in the meantime) and/or him noticing the depth chart and wondering about when he'd see the field.
I have a feeling there were a lot of honest conversations and the truth is a mix of him thinking the field might be too crowded and the coaches realizing they need to balance the other positions a bit more. Otherwise I can;t make pulling the offer of a 2020 kid make sense in my head as it's just too far out. Plus pissing off ANOTHER kid in Chicago would be astronomically stupid after l'affaire Swenson(justified as the coaches may have been).