Meyer releases statement:
I get this reference +1
I'm confused. If the issue is whether Meyer reported the 2015 incident, surely he told OSU this before he was put on leave and they went through the process of appointing an investigating committee. Even OSU isn't enough of a clown show to do all that without asking such a basic question. Nor I can see Meyer not volunteering it.
So what is this investigation about? Are the records missing and they don't believe Meyer? They haven't announcing anyone else has been put on leave.
Or are they questioning his judgment for not firing Smith sooner? Or about lying at media days? I don't know why that requires an investigation if there's no dispute of the facts. Something doesn't add up.
I agree that his statement doesn't pass the smell test.
I think it's buying time for due diligence and checking to see what other skeletons are in the closet. For the former, even taking Meyer at face value, they'd need to verify that a report was filed in a timely manner, etc. I have no idea how or where they'd get started on the latter. I always assumed Ohio State is a dirty program, so it could take a while.
they have to go back with white out to color in the redacted parts of the police reports to remember what they said. . .
What exactly does "report the incident" mean?
I'm skeptical. Somebody at Ohio State will fall on their sword and collaborate some vague "reporting of the incident" story.
Some well-connected alumni will then quietly take care of them later.
Ohio State was never going to fire Meyer over something like this if they could just maneuver around it.
He'll get a public-opinion slap on the wrist for only reporting it and then looking the other way while it still kept happening . . . but it won't be enough to get him fired.
Everyone will forget about this by September and move on to the next hot story du jour.
Well done, lawyers.
Urban's safe because he's 73 - 8 and 6 - 0 against Michigan. If he had Harbaugh's record (28-11, 0-3 against Michigan), he'd be fired now.
6-0? Hmm, Apparently Urb forgot the 2008 Citrus Bowl too.
First off, he is not in hot water because he failed to follow proper reporting procedure. He is in trouble because he was asked why he employed a serial abuser for 11 years and only fired him after it became public knowledge. He answered with "I didn't know about it until now" and it was shown he did know about it.
Secondly, Joe Pa also claimed "but I reported it to the proper authorities". It was a bad excuse then and still is.
If supplying mendaciously bad answers to the press was a cause for immediate termination, when should we have fired Brady Hoke?
August 3rd, 2018 at 10:25 PM ^
Who's this "We" you speak of numbnuts? Fuckin Troll
August 3rd, 2018 at 10:32 PM ^
Lol. “We.”
This is a "pay me" or "I am taking everyone down with me" statement. If he is NOT eventually fired, there will be hell to pay for OSU. This statement is about $37M still owed to him.
mandatory reporting isn't mentioning it to 'your boss'. mandatory reporting is to law enforcement, usually also requires a written report within 24-72 hours if the first report is oral.
Very true. Also protecting his ability to coach again somewhere else.
This is my perspective. He wants to protect his severance and capacity to coach elsewhere. Urban is only about Urban.
I hope OSU keeps him because they will forever stain the school’s reputation with anyone of intelligence outside Ohio, but their President is no longer the buffoon Gee.
So, he admits to lying and also implies that he reported the 2015 incident and somebody else covered it up... AND he kept Zach Smith on his staff until the 2018 reporting. His avoidance of any specifics says everything we need to know, just a vague "uh, I thought I did good".
Not to mention ZM all during that time, from 2015 to his firing, was stalking and harassing his ex-wife.
While this may be true, we don;t know for sure it is
Don't we? I thought police reports were released covering that span of time?
EDIT:
https://www.10tv.com/article/police-records-show-3-years-domestic-dispute-reports-filed-zach-smiths-ex-wife
Woah, did you really edit your post?
It says "Zach Smith was never charged with a domestic violence crime."
Urban is going to hide behind that.
We can all sit here and say "Well he should have fired him anyway", but Meyer can say that both the police and Ohio State knew and did nothing about it even with all of their lawyers and counselors and psychologists . . . so what expertise did he have to override all of that as just a guy that coaches football?
We all know better, but he only needs plausible denial.
Yes! Your point is well-taken. Sometimes it gets lost what the implication of this behavior is. Urban Meyer, by doing nothing, enabled and facilitated an environment where a woman and her children were terrorized by a disgusting monster and the cult community surrounding them.
So, he is going for the Joe Paterno defense (I reported to management, my involvement ends there). Interesting...
Pretty much, except for one (fairly big) difference:
Paterno never lied in 2011 about "I never knew about 2002 in 2002."
Urban lied last week (at B1G Media Days) about "I never knew about 2015 in 2015."
Urban still needs, IMO, to answer the question "so, why tell a bald-faced lie about this last week?"
He lied in a Big Ten press conference, not it a court of law. Not a good look, but nothing actionable either.
Fuck that. Paternity deface lied knowing that POS comit ted multiple child rapes and enabled sam LOS for 20 years. JoPa can burn in hell!
TL;DR version: I just used the wrong words. Sorry.
You forgot: "Also, I have a mom, a wife and daughters so I respect women."
I know the story broke midweek but Urban's statement is coming out right before 5pm on Friday. That is convenient.
.....and I really respect the numerous coeds I have had the pleasure of having carnal relations with at BG, Utah, Florida - especially Florida, and of course at the Big O!
That one kills me. Yeah, congrats on being a human and having some relationship to a woman. Ted bundy could say the same.
Welp that’s that. He will return to his post. Raback it.
Yea he’s trash and yea he ain’t goin anywhere. That’s fine, you showed your true colors Osu. We’re gonn smash them anyway.
Hahahahahahaha
He's not goin anywhere. Maybe 2 or 3 game suspension just because. Nothing happened to dantonio nor izzo and Urbans situation is not as bad. Still bad but not "fire" worthy
He is fighting this, obviously.
He also isn't afraid of a run-on sentence... or three.
Tone of that letter strikes me as coming from a man who thinks he has a reasonable shot at coming back from leave. He is trying to say that his only mistake was claiming to the media that he knew nothing about Zach, implying that in fact he did know at least something and responded and reported appropriately. I don't know how he plans to reconcile that story with him firing Zach only after the story broke in the media.
And that last part where he tries to show that he doesn't hate or disrespect women is stomach-turning. Methinks UM doth protest too much.
Is it possible hes simply fighting for leverage in his buyout? I still think hes gone, but his choice of words could almost be construed as veiled threats.
i can't see him putting out that statement and being fired.
Yeah, sorta like the white guy proving he isn’t racist because he has black friends.
Please do not ever, ever, ever abbreviate Urban Meyer to UM.
"I'm sorry I got caught in a massive lie. Love always, Urbz".
"I wasn't prepared..." So I lied.
This makes him look worse
Or at least as bad as we thought.
But they don't care about how he looks. Or if women get beaten up, apparently. They only care about those Ws.
It makes him look a lot like Jim Tressel.
I agree it makes him look worse and not just he alone. It makes it look like a monumental cover-up spanning at least three years with the entire AD and the media covering the team being complicit. Very Tressel like.
I also agree with others this statement is a veiled threat to ensure he doesnt get fired for cause enabling him to collect the entirety of his contract.
Doubt it on the second part. If he believed there were a chance he would get fired, he wouldn't play that card of veiled threat. This is a cocky confidence letter telling the world I'm in the clear no matter what and I'll be back.
As I stated in the thread below, he either kept a wife beater employed for 3 years or he just threw Gene Smith under the bus.
Watch Gene take the fall for this asshole, just because they’re that desperate to keep Meyer. Winning above everything else. That is what you get at the likes of USC, Alabama, MSU, OSU, etc. No morals or ethics whatsoever.