November 8th, 2021 at 5:58 PM ^
No. The eff is wrong with you?
November 8th, 2021 at 6:00 PM ^
If Michigan can win out, IMO I think Domani Jackson commits here. I also think Conerly the 5 star lineman from Washington is a good bet for this class as well
Just win!
Go Blue!
November 8th, 2021 at 7:04 PM ^
That Washington just fired OC John Donovan -- and Lake may soon follow -- would seem to strengthen Michigan's case for Conerly
November 8th, 2021 at 6:04 PM ^
It's crazy that Penn State is always so high in recruiting every year.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:07 PM ^
Franklin is a very good recruiter and was at Vandy as well
November 8th, 2021 at 6:17 PM ^
Wait until he's at SC.
He's going to be a monster.
...and he was at Maryland as well.
November 8th, 2021 at 8:33 PM ^
Why do you think he’ll be so great at USC? Are his assistants all going to have smoking hot wives out there?
November 9th, 2021 at 11:03 PM ^
I said he'll recruit well...I never said the team will be elite.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:29 PM ^
Except they weren't high just last year... they were 33rd or something like that.
November 8th, 2021 at 7:01 PM ^
They’ve been below Michigan basically every year of harbaughs tenure until this year
November 8th, 2021 at 10:01 PM ^
Came here to say this. Another instance of the media (especially B1G media) talking up PSU as if there's some huge gap between them and Michigan
November 8th, 2021 at 8:19 PM ^
Strong year in 2018, but just ok and below UM in 2019 (12th), 2020 (15th), 2021 (21st). Otherwise, “every year” holds true.
November 9th, 2021 at 4:41 PM ^
Yearly recruiting rankings can be misleading when comparing teams. The reason - some teams just don't have the numbers to give out therefore the total rankings can be misleading. I pay more attention - especially this time of year - to the average rating per committed recruit.
A good example is the current 247 Composite team rankings which has PSU at number three but if you look at their average / recruit it's at 90.44 but they've factored in 25 recruits which say they're just about done. Look at some teams behind them like OSU, Oklahoma, Texas A&M........they have far less commits than PSU but higher averages per recruit - and are waiting on several blue chippers to make up their mind. They'll blow by PSU when some of these kids commit to those schools.
The only true recruiting comparison that I pay serious attention to is the 247 Composite Roster Talent comparison which accounts for all the the scholarship players on the roster. Here's the 2021 rating:
2021 College Football Team Talent Composite (247sports.com)
November 8th, 2021 at 6:06 PM ^
Sharty will never finish above us in anything -- even when they do.
November 8th, 2021 at 8:43 PM ^
Couch burning!!!
November 8th, 2021 at 6:09 PM ^
in the days of the transfer portal does it even matter?
you can go out and poach a top player from another program and plug holes.
that is why state is where they are right now, the transfer portal NOT straight up recruiting.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:13 PM ^
The transfer portal certainly is adding a new dynamic to recruiting. Even the bases of how good a team is every year, since so many players seem to be in flux every year.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:10 PM ^
Josh Conerly and Domani Jackson would move us in the Top10, add Deone walker and we would move us up to 8
November 8th, 2021 at 7:02 PM ^
We lead for one of those three
November 8th, 2021 at 6:16 PM ^
After Sparty's loss to Purdue are the East Lansing faithful ready to run Tucker out of town?
November 8th, 2021 at 6:18 PM ^
Why would they be?
November 8th, 2021 at 6:21 PM ^
Loss. To Purdue!
November 8th, 2021 at 6:55 PM ^
Every MSU fan I know is quite happy at where they are. From where they were expected to be in year two, to where that currently are is quite the difference. They beat their main rival and still have a chance to win the east.
November 8th, 2021 at 7:01 PM ^
They can't be happy with a loss to Purdue.
November 8th, 2021 at 7:53 PM ^
They had an over/under of 4.5 wins this year. They are currently 8-1. The fanbase is quite content.
November 8th, 2021 at 8:25 PM ^
What was the Michigan Over/under? 'Cause I KNOW this fanbase isn't content.
PS - I think you all are missing the joke/sarcasm of the original point.
November 8th, 2021 at 8:25 PM ^
A large chunk of our fan base thought we would win 6 or 7 this year and we are already at 8 and they are still quite upset with Harbaugh
November 9th, 2021 at 1:06 PM ^
“We are so good at having low expectations that we regularly move the goalposts to avoid meeting them.”
November 11th, 2021 at 9:31 AM ^
They could be 1-11, but if the win is against us, they will give Tucker an extension and a raise.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:18 PM ^
Considering where they were projected to finish, I'd venture a guess they are very happy. See me after the Ohio State game in Columbus and the narrative could be a total 180
November 8th, 2021 at 6:19 PM ^
Michigan: Darkhorse of Recruiting
Win out and let's see what happens.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:20 PM ^
What the hell is going on with our recruiting though, for real? Even if we land Conerly and Jackson which is best case scenario, the amount of top 100, 200, or 300 kids in this class appears to be extremely low for Michigan standards.
As I said in another Harbaugh thread, the recruiting has been the thing I’ve been most disappointed in from the time he was hired and leads directly to some of the other downfalls. I was expecting annual borderline top 5 classes. We used to get those frequently.
Here’s our finishes in his full classes: 8, 5, 22, 8, 14, 13 and this year will likely be another class outside the top 10.
I expected better.
For comparisons sake, here’s been Ohio States’s finishes in that time frame: 4, 2, 2, 14, 5, 2 and this year will likely be another top 5 class.
Yeah.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:22 PM ^
Last season and finishing with a 2-4 record plus add in the Harbaugh uncertainty, I'd guess had an effect on recruiting. Having said that, this team has played well in 2021 and built some good momentum. Win and recruiting will take care of itself
November 8th, 2021 at 6:58 PM ^
It's not always about the totals are the end of every recruiting cycle though. Talent identification and development. Which top recruits from each class can you name that got better while here?
There are schools that do worse in the "rankings" that seem to do better with developing talent.
November 8th, 2021 at 7:05 PM ^
Compose yourself.
It's true that 5-star > 4-star > 3-star as predictors of success. It's less clear that #199 differs appreciably from #301 (or #299 from #401). Get the idea?
Also, take a close look at the offer lists of the commits. I see nine Sparty recruits with respectable offer lists (a bunch of good Power Five schools ... Vanderbilt and the like do not count). Michigan has more guys with good offer lists.
I'd still say this is a good-looking class for Sparty. I find it interesting that Michigan didn't aggressively pursue #4 (Gates) or #5 (Mangham), at least not that I've heard. (The latter at least has a Michigan offer.)
November 8th, 2021 at 7:35 PM ^
I'm not even sure if Mangham played this year, think he had an ankle injury. Gates really looked great though. Picked it up a notch from junior year.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:23 PM ^
I'm a little perplexed at how low the class average is compared to JH's typical class. I'm sure last year has something to do with it, but I assumed with this season's success and some of the new assistants like Clink, Bellomy, & Hart that it would have improved. I don't know if they are relying more on their own scouting or if it's just a down year, but I hope they can land a few more pieces before the end of the cycle and gain some steam for the following class.
November 8th, 2021 at 8:39 PM ^
Didn't I read on this site when that kid from Indiana committed that recruiting sites haven't been very good this year because of COVID? I am sure they did a good job with 5 stars, but some of those 3* we picked up might under rated.
November 9th, 2021 at 11:33 AM ^
Sounds reasonable, but to only have one five star and zero four stars seems like there is more to it than that.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:26 PM ^
No is the correct answer.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:27 PM ^
Michigan never loses to anyone but Ohio State and Penn State in the Big Ten!
November 8th, 2021 at 6:27 PM ^
In recruiting.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:29 PM ^
I know Domani is a pipe dream but man our secondary would be so good with him, Will Johnson, and gemon green. Our team would be straight ? next year
November 8th, 2021 at 6:39 PM ^
Gemon Green isn’t even a starter at this point. Shouldn’t you be talking about DJ Turner and Vincent Gray.
November 8th, 2021 at 7:20 PM ^
Gemon was passed by both Turner and Gray… curious why he’s the one you mentioned
November 8th, 2021 at 6:29 PM ^
Probably not.
November 8th, 2021 at 6:37 PM ^
They are 0.9 points higher than us with 4 more commits. Overreact much?