SIAP: Saban on troubles handling Michigan NOT being no-huddle

Submitted by MMBbones on January 4th, 2024 at 4:43 PM

Saban was very respectful of Michigan players and coaches overall. 

Sorry about the X link, maybe someone can post another source.

Something I haven't read here, but may have missed, is Saban saying M was the first team they played all year that huddled, and that caused them problems because it shortened the time their defense could respond to the Michigan formation. I assume he knows what he's talking about?

https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1742974274892177434

MIMark

January 4th, 2024 at 6:18 PM ^

When Dino Babers quit with the hurry up at Syracuse I knew something was amiss with the offense. He built his identity on that offense and then got away to just a generic spread. It was weird. Defenses figured it out, and then the RPO became the new hot thing. Now it seems run heavy pro offense is the hot new thing and we're full circle back to late 90s football.

RockinLoud

January 4th, 2024 at 4:55 PM ^

Basically yes. He's saying 'Bama was no-huddle but wasn't playing fast that game, so UM's coaches had more time to signal in calls/checks based on 'Bama's formations since they showed that right away. Versus the other side, UM huddled and was then sitting in their offensive formation for less time, which means less time for 'Bama's D to make calls/checks.

Interesting that Saban is indicating that UM huddling gave a similar advantage that the hurry-up-no-huddle is supposed to give, while their own tactic of no-huddle-no-hurry actually hurt them. Will 'Bama be one of the few teams like UM to mostly go back to huddle next season?

Blue Bunny Friday

January 4th, 2024 at 10:23 PM ^

That's a very recent phenomenon based on massive changes in the cfb landscape. The Bama formula at A&M would've had plenty of success in the old system. 

He's one of the best at the college level ever. MSU can feel great about him leaving for a better job.

He's always made really good hires and changes when it didn't work. Impressive turnover throughout the years. Running out of steam, tho, and his last OC hire was questionable. 

MTFury

January 4th, 2024 at 5:06 PM ^

Interesting topic that you don’t pick up on if you see Michigan play a lot.   Break the huddle, shift the formation then put a man in motion.

AWAS

January 4th, 2024 at 6:14 PM ^

It was called out in the broadcast, and Orlovsky drove it home in the post game analysis.  Alabama's defense was forced to make 2 or 3 assignment checks in just a few seconds presnap.  They couldn't keep up, resulting in conflicts and errors.

OTOH, the communication among the Michigan defensive back seven was visual and nearly instant in response to Alabama's shifts.  It's really a testament to the players and the coaches to get to this level of seamless movement.

PopeLando

January 4th, 2024 at 5:27 PM ^

It’s an interesting topic.

A lot of offenses have the “get set and then check the sideline” no-huddle. The advantage of this is that you have the smart smart coaches making and adjusting the playcalls. The disadvantage is that, like Saban said, it gives the defense enough time to think about matchups, assignments, etc.

Alabama runs a complex defense, which Seth explained over the last week. They can do this because they’re really talented players and have a good coaching staff.

But they can be outsmarted. Our gameplan included a ton of motion, RB hops, etc., and at the end of it the Michigan players still needed to know what to do and where to run.* Meaning that huddling gives US the time to think and get on the same page. 

I’ll bet $1 that someone figures out how to do this same thing no-huddle over the summer, and next year Alabama will face several all-motion-all-the-time offenses.

* [I’ll also bet $1 that this is why Donovan Edwards wasn’t featured as much this game. No offense to the guy, he’s a hard worker and great teammate, but even in our most vanilla offense he seemed like he had no idea what was happening in front of his face. That could have gotten JJ killed in this game.]